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it's yeah you got some pretty high high heat there you were in the 120s and stuff right no we
were one day but pretty cold we have win
coer 101 your audio is coming in and out Wonder has C closer to the
microphone how is that is that better perfect yeah
yeah thank you which t-shirt is it today oh it's the Panama
canalir nice when through the Panama and we fell off the ship and we
were drowned in the canal and when we came back up we had these
t- is that W was that the one where you got that refractor that um what was it
uh no it was was the same period of time in my life but um it was like a few
years after I got the refractor I got the refractor in 2002 just before the total eclipse that
year that's a beauty yeah I remember that really is yeah when Year want to
find it it's really nice to be able to discover something like that and get a good deal out of it too and recognize
the value yeah it's m on top of my uh
one of my big mounted on the nice very nice hey Chuck hi Chuck
how how you doing how are you tonight good to see you Chuck good to see you see to see you David how are you
Connell hey good evening Chuck how are you doing great thank
you I heard from uh my colleagues Lucas and Ron they had had a fantastic conversation with you and Connell uh I
guess last month yeah we're really excited about it uh Karem that it's um
everybody's uh pretty set now for a joint convention in Toronto so we get to
give a small snapshot of the couple things that we're doing this Saturday at the ga so that'll be nice because uh
we're going to touch on the club support and we're going to mention that we've actually been liasing with you both uh
hopefully that's that doesn't get cut we're right now we're so tight on time it's ridiculous is someone sharing a
screen right now I am oh oh okay yeah hey Harold is there book is
there is book there yeah yeah yeah got B's [Laughter]
woot yeah it's just a widget that I've left up there you know so some of people
who are chatting can see that uh we're seeing it of course and um you know I
want the audience to see it too so that's absolutely Kareem we've actually
got dates for that convention now oh fantastic what's the dates uh last three days in June and the first day of July
Canada Day 2024
2024 I suspect no one was putting a convention around April that year no but we're hoping to have lots of
stuff to show come 2024 well we actually discussed the eclipse also talking about
a joint activity in Texas oh really the people in that meeting we're all anxious to go to Texas
for in April so I think we may be looking at a joint activity then too I
have totality be there I have totality with only an 80% chance of overcast I
mean come on ice here 80% chance hey that's better than 100%
you'll probably get the clear skies in Texas will be overcast that's the way knock on wood knock on W I I promised my
daughter that two days before no matter what they tell me I have to do on campus if it's looking cloudy we're getting in
the car and we're driving driving that's right we're Chase in
totality canc school when I grew up I knew a Dr Moore
who taught astronomy at the University of Louisville and ran our Observatory uh that we used as a 20in telescope for high school students
and um Dr Moore made nine trips Finland uh the
Philippines Canada I I can't even remember all the places he went trying to see a total solar eclipse he was 0
and nine in his life never saw one ah
really that's sad I've been lucky I've only I've I've
been to three total eclipses I've seen all three yeah I'm three and 02o stick with stick with us yeah and then the uh
I uh I got clouded out on an annular I I decided this is something I'll never do
again I I decided to take a group of people to an island okay that was a big
mistake because you can't I mean you're stuck on an island right so yeah you
Catalina Island uh this was an eclipse that happened I I guess yeah it was
still in the 90s and um um you know Roger RM who did a bunch of
photographs of observatories and stuff he comes to my house and we're talking and I said do you want to go to Catalina
with me and he says uh no he says I'm gonna I'm gonna stay mobile and he had all these connections
to meteorologists and stuff and so Scott goes out and takes a group of about I 50
people people we get totally clouded out we have a great time anyways but we get totally clouded out and he gets the
eclipse because he's racing down I5 uh I think he stops in Carl's bat or
something in California and he gets it you know so that was the uh that was the
lesson learned you know but most I mean every other time wherever I've gone I've been planted and I'm not moving you know
so you know well Gary says you had a nice place to visit at least Catalina Island is an awesome place it is an
awesome place it is y that's true yeah we were at the ismos you know
where the two islands kind of connect and um so and right after the eclipse
happened in clouds it rained the group I've heard even if it's
cloudy you experience the
dark but we we we really did we had a great time and even the people that got rained
on and had to walk all the way back from the ismus back to uh Two Harbors which was quite a walk um they were happy as
well and so we bought them drinks and it was fun you know
so is everyone seeing these comments yeah yeah I have it set up I
have it set up so people can see it yeah yeah hey Gary long time no see how you
doing man hey I'm good thanks how is everyone all right it's fine good thank
you so how how are things uh Gary are you having a good uh good spring here or
great summer I guess now um average it's actually quite a bit cooler this
year yeah so we've got the uh jet stream moving around at the moment so it's uh
pecking the temperatures back a bit that they're running up into the mid sort of 20s in the
Daytime Nighttime temperatures are really dropping off at the moment still
even now we we should be way above what we are but that's been the same uh
really right the way through since about October so not A lot's changed but we're
taking a long still getting images still quite Buzzy so yeah can't complain too much I've
heard the US has had quite a bit of a heat wave in certain parts really what's
wave like in the United Kingdom is it really hear you then Scott how how hot
does it get in the UK I mean the last few years it's been running up into um
30C something like that that's right if you over in London you might even push
it up to 35 but it just seems this year we've had a easterly wind or
northeasterly consistent you know it go away for a couple of days and then it's back again it just seems to jet stream
staying in a position that's pushing it around so I haven't looked at what
tonight's temperatures I'll tell you in a second
uh yeah it's dropped down to five degrees there's Adrian all right
he's driving stay safe yeah looks like he's just logged on
good to see Adrian hello Adrian he's ready for the
rain he's got his hat ready yeah he's connecting his audio now okay there he
is don't know if he can hear us y I can hear everyone I'm hi
Adrian hi David hey that's a different camera angle for you
yeah it's a little different because I'm use I need to use are you using the cell phone right
now is that what it is yeah we don't have internet here
oh Adrian are you heading north again I'm coming from the north from the
north okay yep yeah my attempt to catch moonrise right over Lake here on fail
and the Moon is mocking me right now because in a patch where it's now clear
and easily visible I had sun setting on one side the moon on the other but I
felt like it was important to go ahead and get home so that I could share some of my Milky Way astrop
Photography all right the good news is I have plenty of on my phone in case I end
up sharing from there so so I will be able to the show will go on but um it
was still a beautiful day it was a beautiful time at the L I will accept that as my fate is your
fate yes that's good good hardcore uh Adrien
good stuff that's that's what it's all about well that there was a huge shelf
of clouds and I ended up meeting two groups of people and did out basically
was able to do some Outreach there's one um couple that was there that was
related to one of the astrophotographers that I know back in Michigan a Doug Doug Bach his older
brother and older brother's wife happened to be at the same park that I went to so it's a small
world then there were yep there were a couple of people that were not masked for the first time
out at this park and I talked to them about the uh type of night photography
that I do and showed them a couple pictures and it was I told them it's this very spot that where I took those
pictures so that was that proved to be pretty interesting as well and uh so it was a it was a
worthwhile trip but uh but now I'm safely driving
back keeping eyes in the road and logging in so that I can uh hear and
appreciate the presentations as I am on my way back it's looking like I'll be
back home just in time for when I'm scheduled so it's going all right how
far are you out about perfect timing about an hour and a half or so or
how how are things um what time is it now it's nine o'clock so yeah 40 minutes I'm exactly
40 minutes out from my presentation and
home oh great perfect very cool have a good drive careful out there yeah be
careful y hey I wanted to give I wanted to give a shout out to um NASA photographer or the guy who's done a lot
of photography for NASA his name is is Bill Eng Les and um uh the Space
Foundation honored him uh with the 2021 Douglas srow public Outreach Awards so
that's really great I know that he's done amazing uh photography you know
he's a chronic chronic chronicler of uh of NASA activity in space and that kind
of thing so if you're interested it's bill Les i n g l LS but congratulations
to him I think I've heard the name I um the
name Engles sounds familiar so it's uh I'll have to look
I'll have to check that out check it out yeah yeah I came across some of his work
recently I recognized the name um the first image I saw of his was um maybe a
week or so ago he had an image of that partial eclipse just over the Capitol building like right right as it was
coming up to the little spire on top of the Dome that was amazing right
yeah well he's he's captured the attention of the world a few times
so location is huge and uh he had the
capital building to work with I had this little bitty tree in front of lake
hiron so sometimes it it makes a huge difference where you position yourself
for the shot that's very
true then again too it's just like um you all have embraced my uh work here
you know I I did get a chance to share that shot in an international on an international stage so I was uh you know
I'm very honored and humbled to have had my work viewed whether it gets to Bill
Engles level or not to me it's just about enjoying being out there even if
it's to take study shots sometimes you take a shot that you plan to shoot again
later and you end up getting a good shot because of
it well hello everybody this is Scott Roberts from explore scientific and um
we are are um starting up the uh 51st Global star party now this is an
educational Outreach event and uh so you know I do recommend that the audience as
much as they can can subscribe like share uh you know the idea is to get
this seen by as many people as possible we have a great lineup of speakers today and uh we hope you enjoy it and we're
going to start it with this little feature
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well I hope you enjoyed that um I know a lot of us are uh kind of anxiously
awaiting to see if NASA will be able to reboot um uh the Hubble Space
telescope's uh uh computer I I I'm still reading about it but um uh it's just a a
thing from the Hubble site just an hour ago said the testing is underway to identify the issue and restore payload
computer on NASA's hubbles Space Telescope so hopefully uh they can get it going you know the the the people
that operate that telescope are are geniuses in their own right and uh if anybody can get it going they can so um
but uh what what a magnificent Legacy that the hubbles Space Telescope has
given us and how how amazing uh you know its effects have been you
know uh in being able to see the universe in the way that we have with that incredible telescope so um but um
the the theme of our program the global our 51st Global star party is the
Treasures of the Milky Way um you know for all of us that have spent uh time
looking uh under a you know a dome of stars and easily being able to pick out
the mil Milky Way maybe you've been to a place where it's so dark that you can no longer recognize constellations you know
uh that uh the feeling of being under that uh that Dome of stars is to me is a
very kind of sacred feeling and um you know uh you see it uh uh you see
astronomers and astrophotographers try to express what that feeling is like through their photography through their
um through their science through their poetry through their art um but uh uh to
me it gets almost to the point of where it's almost Indescribable you just have to go and experience it and uh uh you
know unfortunately uh you know as as um you know Society uh progresses we do it with
more light and um uh you know and so fewer and fewer people in the world have
ever experienced a view of the Milky Way um we've all probably we all see stars
we see the sun of course as being a star but but to see the River of Light um uh
and to be able to walk in that trail uh you know with the telescope uh is
amazing and uh somebody that uh you know the people on this program that you're
going to see tonight have all uh been uh you know uh you know soaked in Starlight
and uh uh they're going to try to express the passion and feeling of what that's like tonight in various ways
we've done it on every Global star party but uh I just like to um kind of touch
on it uh more specifically sometimes uh someone that has been our leader uh the
entire time is uh is David Levy David uh
not only understands um what it is to be under the Milky Way light but uh to
uh to spend enough time with it to make discoveries uh and to share the passion
of uh of of observing uh those stars and
um uh you know to uh be able to articulate that in ways that few of us
can so David I'm going to turn it over to you um and thank you again for being
on all of these Global star parties well thank thank you Scott it's really it's an honor and a pleasure
although it's you're going to be a tough act to follow tonight I think anyway uh
I wanted to to welcome all of you to our 51st Global star party and uh tonight I want to talk
about two objects that I've P that I picked up over the decades while
searching for comets uh one of them was a group of
Stars arranged in an almost perfect ring and the other was an almost perfect
group of stars arranged in what appeared to me to be a river and the ring I named
Wendy's Ring Of course little asterism the river we named after our daughter
nette and it's called nette's River and uh if you want to know where
they are and how to see them there is a book that I wrote years ago about on the 40th anniversary of the
start of my search for comets and it's simply called Deep Sky
objects and Wendy's ring and the Nets River are both described I believe in
that book but recently we uncovered a poem that I believe was written by
William Park Hansen in from State College
Pennsylvania about Wendy's ring in the Nets River and that's what I'd like to share with
you today I wanted to wear Wendy's rain but
it is Cosmic large and I am one small
two-footed creature looking up nor can I float down the Net's River it flows deep
from higher than my soul's reach Falls deep into a dead Pharaoh's sleep he
smiles down upon my pitiful pyramid of verbal worlds I admit my best telescope is no
Golden Boat for an ascended God to sail my work is just another Circle search
for light thank you and back to you Scotty okay that was wonderful that was
wonderful um we are uh I need to
actually look at my schedule here just real quick but um uh since we changed
things up just a little bit uh just hang in there with me for a
moment I like your Panama Canal shirt there
David okay all right well what the big change is is that uh uh often Gary
Palmer has stated up very very late at night uh to uh spend some time with us
and uh he is up next on the on the global Star Party Gary is um uh someone
that has uh spent a lot of time teaching people how to get the very best telescopes for astrophotography um uh he is known
worldwide for his uh his excellent work work in deep sky astrophotography as well as solar astrophotography uh uh
he's a you know if you ever got a chance to meet him at a an event he's a great
guy to hang out with uh you know very approachable and he's the first to um
you know give you some excellent tips to help you Propel your way towards
excellence in this in this realm so Gary has a um a a program uh where he teaches
people worldwide over for Skype and maybe through Zoom uh these kinds of
things but uh uh if you want to take yourself to the next level and you're astrophotography no matter what level
you're at um you get in touch with Gary Palmer and um you can find him on
Facebook and I'm I'll find his website and we'll share it on this uh this stream Gary you got the stage thank you
Scott I don't know what's harder um following David or following that uh
intro to me that's uh quite an intro thanks very much for
that so all the good ones are humble okay so remember that okay so um yeah o
over here uh not a lot of people realize that I live quite far north so we don't
really get dark at the moment and now we're already getting daylight yeah wow
yeah already y so if I just move a couple of screens around and just share
up the main screen screen and we did have Andromeda there whether we've still got it is a
different cett of fish because when I last looked it was getting quite bright and quite blue yeah so you can already
see we're we're already moving into daylight um it doesn't properly get dark
here that that's the key problem so um as for live viewing tonight really we've
sort of uh gone past that that area um um so what I thought I would do um I did
some solar Imaging earlier today and solar's been really really uh active
over the last month we've had lots of sunspots um one of the images that I
took today because it was a bit of a race around and we were testing some new equipment does need some correction on
it so I thought well why not use it on here and we show people how to correct the image yeah because um once it's
processed up it has got some errors and it so we I've already pre-loaded it just to save a bit of
time um we're just going to stack this up here so I'm just going to run this
through and then once it's stacked you'll see the errors start to come out in Photoshop it's got some quite
interesting detail in it today so we're just going to run it through Auto stacker two take it a couple of minutes to run
through this and while it's doing this the internet connection might jump up and
down a little fraction that's all
right shut that down to speed it up because we can't get anything else from that
tonight yeah there's a lot of crunching going on and images like this yeah the the problem I had today
was even though there was a tilt adapter on there and uh using uh other methods
for subtracting Flats on the image or dividing Flats whichever way you want to
look at it um I was finding that there's still areas in the image now that could
be due to the the poor atmosphere there's quite a lot of high Cloud today so when the flats are taken it could be
clipping something um it could just be the rush around and sometimes that
there's more than one thing that leads to it um it might be that you don't have enough money for a tilt adapter or
something like that so this will kick in there just save a bit of time I'm going to place the aps on the
grid give it a couple of seconds and a while AG go
um yeah so you might not be able to afford a tilt adapter you're going to get errors in these images uh when you
capturing them and uh photoshop's really quite a powerful tool for getting around
this problem makes life nice and easy and uh at the end of the day whatever
mistakes are made you can normally get R and correct what you
see so it's with quite a large format camera um we recorded
2,300 frames roughly so we're going to 500 of
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your computer to do that yeah it's got that for this this is uh actually quite
a a beefed up computer for doing this sort of thing Gary H how often do you
have to I mean you're always working with the latest cameras the latest software and stuff how often do you have
to upgrade or just flat out change your computer um they probably changed about
every six months wow that's normally because we burned something out and them
i' I've stopped Imaging so much certainly the pandemic's helped me look after laptops because laptops when we're
out in the fields we just kill them in the in the heat yeah so we're doing Live Events laptops don't last a long time
but they generally have to be quite High spec computers for doing all this so
This has gone over into register Stacks now and all we're going to do is put the
initial layer at two and double click on the center of the
image and then we're gonna sh may want to even consider uh Gary
moving stuff to the cloud do cloud-based in in the future the issue with a lot of
this is is actually being able to um work on it and most of these images
you're working on individ ually so uh to give you some ideas some of the new
formats we're working with some of the cameras the files uh 11 gigabyte for each video so now we're starting to ah
just the transfer is too much yeah yeah the transfer speeds up so that do that's pretty good there let me save that for a
second that's a good point so yeah a lot of people are not realizing that at the moment that um
this is the issue so just going to open this up send it over to photoshop now at the moment the image
doesn't look like it's really got too much wrong with it but if we start a little bit of
processing so we're just going to crop all the stack area off the edge crop and then because I was in a
rush earlier and playing around with some new equipment we need to rotate it because that's the correct
rotation the actual event that was going on so the sun spots coming nearer the right hand side of the Sun so it's
always going to be darker over this area but you can see down this edge here it's
quite uneven so between the the two sides to the image is quite poor so
ideally we like it with a nice even contrast right the way across if it gets any worse than this you probably find
that you actually use lose uh spicule detel on one side of the image but if we
go to the channels and we create a new channel when this first comes up say post it
here 50 we just want one on there so just scrub that out and put one in I'm
going to select the uh new channel you'll see it just go very very slightly red might not see that over the internet
but you can certainly see it here and then we're going to get the uh ey dropper tool use the shift key I'm going
to put one marker over on the left side and one marker over on the right and then we're going to open up
the gravan tool at the top here you see a few different settings when you open the
gravan tool and we actually want this on a linear gradient once we're on there just going
to uh click the left Mouse button draw straight across the image and that's it you'll see it's made
a mask here of the brightness across the image so what we do now is go to
select load selection that's going to load that in as a mask and now what we need to do is
make sure we click up back at the top channel the RGB channels otherwise we're not going to actually activate on the
mask now you see what it's done is it's put a masking in over half of the image we actually want to work on the
other side so we need to invert that so just going to select
invert go and then we need to bring up the
levels okay just the central slider now one of the reasons for using this system
is because you're not going to get a harsh line down the middle what it's going to do is is balance the whole image right the way across so what we're
going to do is is get a hold of the middle slider just slide it to the right just so that we start to contrast the
image up
okay now we're going to um deselect everything going to remove that
mask and the channel and then we're just going to go back to the ey dropper tool
and we're going to press the shift button hover over one of them and as you drag them onto the edge they
disappear now if we look at the image you can just see it's very slightly brighter in this left hand corner so we
going to repeat the process exactly the same thing again just going to create in your
channel select the channel use the eye dropper tool this time we're going to put one down in the bottom
corner and then one just up by this filament then we get the gradient tool
again still the same thing on linear and draw a line back out from the center out
to the corner okay you see it's got the mask there so we need to go back load
selection select the RGB and you'll notice is just put a
marker down in that corner so it's masked off this area we're just going to do the same thing
again just going to contrast that up a touch sowh there okay that's all good we
can deselect everything remove the
channel now what we want to do is is just uh remove the eye droppers just so that they don't
uh mess up anything else that we're going to do in the image in a second now what we need to do is switch
the image to gray scale a lot more detail comes out in Gray scale even though we're Imaging in a mono camera
the software quite often saves it as an RGB image so you can see here if I go to
uh image mode yeah it's actually saved as an RGB image at the moment so we want
it as a grow scale image and then we want it as an 8bit
image and the next thing we're going to do is go to HDR toning and there we go so you'll see
that now we got a a re reasonably even image if we click on smooth edges you'll
see some other detail come out in the image you see lots of lot white little
dots there so we just use a little bit of gamma just to balance the image up and
where we're slightly Overexposed here on some of the white points if we use the highlights we can go back and we can
bring the centers back in those MH just to show a bit of detail and the last thing I do is is
just take the detail down the detail in this is really sharpening and I prefer to do that another
way and then we can go image adjustments bring up the curves we can
just brighten out a little fraction just put some holder markers in there we
go when you put the holder markers in just get the line nice and straight and
then you can play around to your heart's content on this so cool to watch a master at work
yeah that's exactly what's running through my head so the the last thing that we need to do really is just the
speckle the image and that's because when you do the wave lits you're going to get um you're going to get some
residual noise in the background so we've Des speckled it and then we can use a unsharp mask or
something just to bring out a bit more detail in it there we go somewhere around there do
fine if you want to color this then you can go in you're in Gray scale already
so you can go into durone now you can either select this as a trone or quad tone depends on the
colors you always have to have a black in there otherwise you got no contrast in the image a whiter color paler color
will also help hold colors in the whiter active areas once you've
got that selected you need to go back to an RGB now so you've actually set the
base colors in the image you can pick any color you want the color is your choice it be pink whatever um and then
just go in and use color balance and just add in and change the colors a
little bit
and then maybe just brighten it a little fraction certainly if I was going to put this out online I'd just brighten it a
little bit here we go so the idea is really in
this is to try and enhance this filament it's to try and bring detail out in that filament and that's really what we're
after you can um if you wanted to bring out more detail in it uh just go okay
with that we're just going to go back a few steps before we did the HDR
toning um once we've moved it into grayscale you could invert the
image so you can invert it there bring in the levels and just bring
some Dell back something like
that and then do the same thing again come in with the HDR toning and that will start
to highlight things so you can bring back any white areas Yeah by using the
highlights that's beautiful there some people don't like
it like this but you can play around to your heart's content it really depends on what um you're trying to extract out
of the image so yes you're going to turn your Sunspot white but you're going to bring out all the nice detail inside the
filament and look down at the structures how it connects so I just expand it up a
little bit you'll see there yeah how it's connecting the other structures in
so you would play around a little bit more with this just do the same thing we just go a d speckle and then we do a
light sharpen on it very um you know for the be for the
novice uh viewers that are watching here uh you know it's always I mean it's this
is an incredible image but uh uh to give a sense of scale um just to give some
perspective to some of the people might be watching how big how big is that for instance that Sunspot right there that
the Sunspot would be roughly just over the size of Earth maybe one and a half
Earths yeah you yeah there you go certainly on this scale it's like I said it's quite a
large format camera but you could play around with this image and do exactly the same thing so you could flatten out
this area here and just make it a little bit lighter um or you could go in and just do your your shadows and highlights
again yeah play around with
them so you'll see there we're we're darkening up the top of the filament yeah
yeah and then you can change the radiuses to bring this all back back in
so it's really about correcting the image that that's really what it's
about right there you go
beautiful so I have a uh question about data Gathering um is it is it better to
gather longer frames or shorter frames in a lot of
them is there difference in the the type of data that you end up getting or is
that all preference or is it depend on there is there is a big difference
there there is a big difference because if you get a camera let's say uh we use
like an IMX 174 which is quite popular uh for planetary and solar so on average
it it um recall back around 140 frames a second and what you'll find is it's like
um getting a hold of a very soft pencil and marking on a piece of paper yeah for
each frame that's coming in if we slow that frame rate down we
bring that frame rate down to somewhere around 50 to 60 frames a second it's like getting a slightly more coarse
pencil or pressing down harder it brings more detail in on each image because it
is a slightly longer Expos Ure because you're slowing the frame rate down and
that means that you actually need you can stack less frames with that because they got a lot
more detail in but you're also holding the noise back um some of the stuff
we've been doing over the last month is running the cameras in 16 bit mode which does inherently drop the frame rate it
more or less halves the frame rate but on the plus side it stops the noise off
of the new sensors attaching so if you get the game too high on some of the sensors then that will actually attach
to the image um on the uh negative side one of the files we had this week was
16.8 gig um just for one video um of about I think it was about 4,000 frames
so you your computers have got to have really big drives in them to start doing this an hour or two hours of solar
Imaging for these cameras now um you know I had um 40 minutes the other
evening we had over G there 10 years ago I wouldn't have had that for two days
Imaging you know the the the file sizes on these cameras are phenomenal now but
the quality of the images uh is really really nice um so
yeah that that's that's the thing I I prefer a slightly slower frame rate I prefer somewhere around 40 to 60 frames
a second on solar rather than going really really fast you got 10,000 frames there you got a stack
you know um 2,000 of them and you're probably going to get whether the sun's moving so you got to remember that it's
moving all the time our atmosphere is moving yeah um you're going to get a
distortion in the image certainly if you try doing it on full dis images you'll find the edge of the image will start to
Crunch or the uh stacking software can't see it properly and it will start to
mess up so you better really with a slightly slower frame rate Maybe called
in a th frames and stack in 200 you get a really nice sharp image then that's
great that's awesome every time Gary you blow everyone away you really
do yeah I was gonna set up to do some uh some deep Sky stuff but I just ran out of time today we had to change over all
the rigs in the observatory so we're still doing that at o this evening yeah so so Gary I also I had an ulterior
motive of asking the question because I'm almost now which means I'll get a chance to rejoin on my uh computer but I
also did ask the question in pertaining to deep Sky stuff as well you know one
thing that I enjoy doing just other than being under the stars is aiming my
camera at the Milky Way itself the entire band and taking a longer exposure
of it to actually get more detail of that Milky Way so with longer exposures
does that also Translate to night sky photography or classic astrophotography
of deep space objects yeah and you have to remember
that you know um lots of people who are doing this or coming into this now are using some of these highspeed cameras um
they haven't got a lot of money so they haven't got fast computers you know all of the other bits and they're taking
multiple frames so they're taking like 20 second images on deep Sky objects now
but instead of stacking you know we may take you know 20 30 3 minute shots or
you know 60 U one minute shots or something like that they're stuck in like 3,000 of these shots so they're
taking 20 second images and they're recording 3,000 of them that way you haven't got to worry
about your guiding you know the mount tracking issues all those sorts of things and they're coming out with some
really really nice stuff and they they're just using like guide cameras so
playing around with the exposures and the software can can really work on the
Deep Sky stuff as well there was a question Gary about
what kind of camera you were using um you know that was one of these new ones
this that was it's actually there right in front of me it's the new player one player one okay that's the so it's got
an IMX 178 sensor in it it's quite a large sensor um and they run out
about um full uh full resolution runs around 60 frames a second on that I try
to use a little bit lower resolution just because of the F sizing on it and it speeds it up a bit they're run to 80
frames a second then um if you're using the other popular one yeah is that
one um which is the 174 really really popular camera um at
the moment and the other stuff I've been doing is working with the Deep cameras so we're using things like the 183
they're becoming really good on solar unfortunately about 3 four years ago when we were last at NE yeah zwo stopped
doing the 174 and one of the other cameras the 178 in a cooled version and
they were really good for solar because yeah um they're they're very basic sensors for nighttime astronomy so they
were probably thinking oh well you know nobody's really really using them but there's all of us using them on solar
cuz they look after your cameras if they're called um have to think that the sensor on this once it's on the sun even
though it's got a filter for the telescope eyepieces in it the the ambient temperature around it they're run at 60° C on the sensor so if you can
just hold that back a little bit then you look after your camera and there was
a friend of mine lives out in um he lives out in columia and he was at NE
for I had one of the last uh 290 calls so I let him have that one um and then
they were in stock over it and the time I got back they've gone so I never got another one but the yeah C cameras and
the Deep Sky cameras are actually proving quite good on some of this stuff I know Jerry said about um doing some
lunar on them I've been using them for lunar images for quite a long time so
it's really about what your budget goes to you know if you've already got one of these cameras they're quite often now
adaptable to use for planetary Imaging and for lunar Imaging and solar Imaging
and all those sorts of things you don't necessarily have to go out and buy a dedicated camera for it if your budget
doesn't allow right right uh a comment uh from
our our uh audience here beatric hin says great demonstration Gary I'm amazed
at how you managed to get so much detail out of your image of the sun thanks and
that's not even trying I think was on a 100 mm telescope yeah so wait till we
get the big stuff out that that one in the corner the 8 in one over there that that's a full aperture solar scope um
you know so so when the weather's really clear and we're really trying um it'll
get serious huh yeah yeah there's there's some good news stuff on the way at the moment um we're just waiting for
it to come in as soon as it comes in then we we'll share it out and show people what's what's coming up but
there's some good news bits out on the market at the moment well Gary we're so fortunate to have you come back to the
global star party and to share all your knowledge with this it's it's wonderful and inspiring so thanks for letting me
come on and thanks to everybody for the nice comments yeah thanks well up next
is uh none other than Chuck Allen uh Chuck is uh um uh been with the
astronomical league for a long time I don't I don't even know the whole history of of Chuck Allen but one of the
things that I can tell you about him is that uh you know he is uh a lot of
people that might be involved in um administrative uh areas of clubs or um
you know getting involved in in the community aspects of of astronomy might do like uh you know
astronomy light um you know they they get out they observe the sky they love stargazing and all the rest of it Chuck
from what I understand is very serious and and is out uh on numerous nights
I've been told not to call him before 2m his time because he's been up all night
and this is like almost every night so um but I love uh I love Chuck's um
demeanor you know if you ever meet him in person he's a true gentleman uh he is
uh very concerned about promoting uh the hobby the science the love of
astronomy to young people um and uh you know it's his drive and his passion to
uh get as many young people involved as possible but you know he affects everybody and it doesn't matter how old
you are and uh so um uh later on in our presentation Chuck will give one of his
amazing uh uh uh talks um I think this time it's going to be on some ginormous
Galaxy which will be really cool and very appropriate for this program uh but I'm going to turn it over to Chuck now
to do um their bit about uh door prices for from the astronomical league so it's
all yours chck well Scott thank you very much and Gary that was fantastic really enjoyed it um uh what I'd like to do now
is share screen and tell you a little bit
about event that we've got coming up here that will be of interest to everyone I
think okay I think you can see that we have a virtual convention coming up on August
19th through 21st this will be the first and hopefully last virtual convention
we'll have to have but we decided not to go another year without a convention uh we are scheduled to be in Albuquerque
next year in 2022 but this year we're going to have a three-day virtual convention with 3 p.m. and 8:00 P.M
eastern time uh sessions um one of our lead speakers is uh Dr Joselyn B Bernell
of course the discoverer of pulsars coming to us from Oxford University we have people like Dr Richard God at
Princeton uh sker bavar Cali Pomona we have a slooh presentation we have a vaa
to are just an incredible selection of activities um one thing that you need to
understand about this convention is that you can register for free you don't have to be a league member uh just go to the
website which is uh Alcon virtual.org uh you can find that on the banner on the
leak website and sign up all we need is your email address so we know where to contact you if you win some of our what
are now approaching $7,000 in door prizes sponsored by many
of our societies um this all this is all from the other clubs right this is not I I I
just suggested that why don't we ask instead of going to vendors and asking for small door prizes why don't we have
clubs sponsor $150 to $250 door prizes and see if it takes off well it took off
and now we're wondering if we're gonna have time for our speakers because of the door press so uh it's it's going to
be a a logistic nightmare but we'll figure it out uh it should should be exciting so I hope you'll sign up for
that I'm not going to read all of this solar warning for those of you who are new to astronomy and might be tempted to use
eclipse glasses or a telescope or binoculars for observing the sun you need to understand that there's great
danger there it can be done safely with proper filters professionally made filters that are installed correctly
local astronomy societies can help you learn how to do things safely with these
filters uh and if you do get some eclipse glasses use just the eclipse
glasses don't use them with binoculars or a telescope they will melt uh so be
safe out there and they will be careful okay the answer is from uh Global Star
Party 50 uh we had question one how many moons does Mars have and what are their names
and the answer is two deos and Phobos uh normally they're referred to as Phobos
and deos the fear and panic uh are their Latin equivalents what bright star uh do
Orion's Belt Stars point to these are the belt stars of Iran and they point right down to the star
Sirus and question three uh what is the name of the newest Mars Rover is not
pers perseverance it is China's zurang Lander okay and the answers from GSP 49
on June 9th uh resulted in the addition of these names to the door prize
list and now we have had winners from GSP 50 and these are the winners Josh
Kovach uh weather station Andrew corkill alpen binoculars and Dennis dunderdale a
68 degree eyepiece telescope kit congratulations to all of
you okay these are the questions for tonight send your answers to secretary
at astle .org by email again send your answers by email to secretary atast
league.org here's the first one I am the brightest nighttime star visible from
the North Pole and my light was used to open the 1933 Chicago World's Fair what
is my name okay question two in terms of
angular size how many full moons would fit in the bowl of the Big Dipper the
moon can never appear in Versa major but if it did how many moons could you fit
inside the bowl of the Big Dipper two 6 60 or
200 and question number three when the image of a planet in a telescope Quavers
and see showing little detail as a result what is said to be poor
seeing Focus transparency or steadiness we're looking for the term of
art that is used to describe this phenomenon
and that ends the questions for tonight please join us on July 9th for our next
astronomical League live event at 7 pm on the 9th and Scott thank you very much
thank you Chuck that's great uh if you have not already considered doing this
you should should uh become a member of the astronomical League uh you can go to astr league.org and sign up uh the
benefits are numerous and uh I can't think of of there's few few better
organizations that you can join that will uh give you all the um uh you know
the the experience the camaraderie uh and the uh you know the
the things that you need uh to become a better Observer they have like 80 I think it's 80 observing programs um and
um I know they're good good friends with the Royal Astronomical Society as well
and uh and they've done things to collaborate with them so you know uh when you think of organizations like the
astronomical league and the RC uh they are uh they they're inclusive they're
not exclusive they they do things together so um it's uh and and I can say
that largely about the entire amateur astronomical Community
worldwide so um we are up to the point of where we will bring on Adrien Bradley
Adrian are you still with us I don't
know Harold lock say I am still with you oh there you are okay Adrian y are you
good to go on right now or I say a couple minutes and I'll be
ready a couple minutes I'm heading to the compu why don't we juggle just a little bit okay and and have Kareem
Jaffer he's a professor of astronomy and um he is uh the uh Outreach Guru of the
Royal Astronomical Society of Canada the Montreal Center uh yeah and my new uh my
new Compadre because I just joined the RAS last you go rasal yeah you're
getting a lot of USA guys joining the Canadian guys I am an official Rascal
now so so this works out just fine okay all right I think you've been a rascal for a long time now you just have the
title I appreciate that so thanks Scott and uh this has
been fantastic so far I got to say watching Gary go through his processing steps I'm in a I just I need to sit down
and start playing around with some of my images and see if I can get anywhere near that level of detail out but that was just with Photoshop you saw you saw
his uh his raw files and they they were nowhere near what you know I mean the
data is there the details there it's just being able to dig it out you know and even that last step with the
filament where he inverted the colors and you could see more detail with the whites than you do with the blacks at
the core of the filament yeah I wouldn't have even thought to do that that's fantastic yeah I I agree I agree that
that was great so uh yeah thanks uh tonight we're chatting about the Milky Way and I talked to Scott and I decided
that i' talk about some of the Milky Way myths and legends and so before I get into that we're going to check in with
the RC and just take a quick look at what's going on up north here uh north of the 49th and as I mentioned at the
last Global star party we have our GA coming up this weekend uh we're really excited it's uh starts June 25th in the
morning with a full day of Youth programming for youth by Youth and our
nextg committee is chaired by one of our International astronomy day presenters
Emily lafes who has worked with her team to create a fantastic day of programming
some amazing speakers and then on the 26th we're giving all of our committee
presentations as well as some keynote speakers and then the 27th in addition to a bunch of workshops and
presentations in the evening we have the only members is only part of that uh
schedule which is the AG where we're going to be doing some of the business of the society but we invite anybody
who's interested to attend the tickets are are very very affordable uh and
they're in Canadian dollar so they're even more affordable where the audience down South we also have been advertising
this program that I've been part of called Creation Station and our first batch of entries were fantastic we even
got some from from across the world we got got uh one from Thailand one from India we've got a couple from the US
plus a bunch from across the entire country of Canada so we're we're
showcasing a lot of these during the ga as well as on our website R c.ca
Creation Station and we invite kids ages 5 to 12 to submit and let their creation
run wild we want to see your imagination whether it's drawings whether it's poems
and you'll hear deep te later tonight uh she's been doing amazing poems at the global star party so if you feel like
starting to you know dabble here's an place for you to Showcase to the world
your imagination and then as Scott's aware I've also started to do Astro radio over
in the UK uh we have a panel show Reach Out And Touch space this has been a lot
of fun we've been doing music themed space shows so we talk about astronomy news and we listen to music and I mean
there's there's that's a great way to spend two hours every couple of days so uh I invite you if you're interested in
any of these feel free to drop me a line Montreal RC
gmail.com now for tonight I want to talk to you a little bit about the stories we have for how the Milky Way came to be
and specifically when you look out at night when you reach Twilight and specifically when you get into the
darker part of the night the astronomical Twilight even on a cloudy night you can see see that arm of the
Milky Way come out through the clouds and if you watch it for a little while you'll see it moving through and the
last few years we've been really lucky to have Saturn and Jupiter very close to
the southern part of the Milky Way towards the end of the summer near Sagittarius and you can really see the
dust Lanes you can see the stars you can see the amount of deep space objects
that really can capture your attention and one of the things that I try to share with my students and with the
public when we do Outreach is we're not the first ones to be looking upwards and to be seeing this and trying to
understand what it is that we're seeing and there are myths and there are legends in every culture about this
River of Milky goodness that goes through our
night Scot I like that thanks so I want to share with you just a few of those
just to give you a little little bit of a taste of some of these myths and legends that have captured my
imagination and I hope yours as well the first is one that a student brought to
my attention early on because I give the students a chance to delve into
different cultures and to share some of the things they've learned as kids or that they've read about with me and the
Chinese mythology of the cow herd and the Weaver girl is one that really centers around the structure of that arm
of the Milky Way so zenu a weaver girl who is considered to be that star Vega
and neang a cow herd who's considered to be the star Al te they were lovers and
that was frowned upon because here you have a weaver girl working within her village with the other women of the
village and you had a cow herd spent all his time out with the animals so this was not considered to be an appropriate
match and so they were banished to opposite sides of this River of stars
called Tiani and we've been hearing that name a lot in the news because the Chinese space station is named Tian 1
and they named it after this Milky Way the harmony of the heavens as they call
it now those two lovers their love was so strong that even the river of the
Milky Way couldn't keep them apart and once a year on the seventh night of the
seventh day of or the seventh night of the seventh lunar month which is
basically just around the start of the fall for us changin the flock of magpies
that are formed by The Nine Stars in signis form a bridge across the Milky
Way that allow alter and Vega to meet up and to express their love to each other
one night a year now if you look at signis and Libby actually showed us a
really nice closeup of signis just a previous star party you can see that there's these dust lanes that actually
seem to obscure part of that deep deep arm of stars that's this embodiment this
vision of this bridge that was formed by these Magi most of us grew up with Greek
mythology though and in Greek mythology the entire naming of that band of stars
is where the term Milky Way comes from aratus talked about it as like a CFT in
the sky and he named it Gala which is the Greek for milk and ostanes referred
to it as the circle of milk and most of the Greek philosophers and at that time
natural philosophers which is the equivalent to scientist these days refer to it in some way in terms of milk but
the legend is embodied in this painting from the National Gallery of London from
jacopo torto the origin of the Milky Way and the idea here is Heracles was one of
the bastard sons of Zeus and we know him from his Roman name Hercules now Hercules from the start was really the
the Hera treated him horribly and turned lots and lots of horrible torments
towards him because he represented all of Zeus's Affairs all of his infidelity
but the worst part was was when he was born which Hera did her best to prevent him even being
born there's a there's a couple of different stories in terms of how he came to be suckled at Hera's breast but
the one that I lik is the idea that Zeus just found her asleep and stuck the baby to her breast and said here suckle and
her Heracles was just so strong because he was Zeus's son that he bit in and
caused pain and woke Hera and Hera flung the baby away which gave this stream of
milk which is now you know in our night sky the important thing for that story
for The Legends of Hercules was that because Heracles got to suckle at the
breast of Hera for just a short amount of time he gained Supernatural heroic
strength of the Gods So Not only was he part God he also had suckled at the breast of a
god Heracles actually was n his name when he was born but his parents named him Heracles because that's Hera's Pride
or Hera's joy in hopes of appeasing Hera but all it did was cause her to C send
more torments his way the Romans the Romans Advanced our
understanding of the Milky Way by putting out a whole bunch of different ideas as to what could have caused this
thing that we see in the night sky and uh Marcus manelius was a poet who really
wrote wrote poems about every single one of their perceived explanations the
first was this idea of two halves of the heavens that are either joining together or tearing apart letting through the
light Beyond the Veil that we see another of the myths that they put
forward was the idea that the Milky Way was actually the previous path of the Sun or the Chariot of the Sun God and
that it had left behind a scorched sky and the dust and the stars and
everything were just basically what's left over when a campfire starts to burn out but one of the really interesting
things that Marcus manilius wrote about was building on the idea of democratus from the Greek philosophers that this is
just a mass of very very faint stars and in one of his poems he even writes that
are they faint because they're dim or are they faint because they're far and that's one of the things that lead you
to understand that there was some element of science coming into this
mythology but of course they were the Romans and they loved their stories and
so the last one that he wrote about was the idea a quasi religious idea that it was the Abode of The Souls of Heroes and
that uh Diana the Athena from the Greek had brought the souls of Heroes up and
that they were heading towards their abode Arab astronomy took a lot of what
was known by the Greeks and the Romans and tried to advance it in the medieval times alberoni was one that talked about
this this scorched Earth path this Cartch track through the sky and said
that contrary to what Aristotle said if these are stars then they have to be
beyond the solar system beyond the planets that we see or the Sun or the
moon or any of those bodies because they move with respect to this arm which is
always there so he argued that the Milky Way was among the celestial sphere if
not Beyond it and so he was one of the first to really document this idea that
those distances are far beyond what was imagined in myths and
legends but if we bring it back to North America and if we bring it back to our
land Our Land is shared with the first nations with the indigenous peoples of our lands and I hesitate to share their
stories in my voice and so what I did is I first found one of the Blackfoot Legends at the virtual Museum which is a
uh donation piece by the gleno museum and it's the story of the Wolves Mike
Mak and they were the first Earth beings to pity the Blackfoot and so one snowy
winter when our people were starving a young man and his family camped by themselves as they searched for food the
Wolves found the family and appeared to them as young men bringing fresh meat to their teee the Wolves took the family
with them back to their Camp there there were many different animals camped together and they helped the family to
set up make a fire and get food the animals shared many spiritual gifts with
the man and also showed the man how to cooperate with other people when he hunted Buffalo and other animal he told
the ancestors that animals with Hooves and horns were all right to eat but animals with Paws and Claws should be
left alone the Wolves disappeared in the string in the spring but we still see them in the sky as the Wolf Trail these
Stars constantly remind us of how we should live together that story is one
that's told in the evenings especially in the fall time when the Wolves would
have come to help this family to keep them alive if they didn't actually prepare for the
winter properly so it was a word of warning but also a reminder of the
cooperativeness that we should live with the land and others Wolford Buck is a Cree who shares
a lot of the wisdom of his ancestors and he does this in a lot of different um
powow and get togethers with kids but also with astronomers and with
journalists to share the stories and make people realize that there's a lot of understanding of the night sky and
the legends of the First Nations and I've shared a couple of his before including uh the Moose the spirit of the
Moose with Mars procession but I wanted to share this one with you because this one really kind of captures this feeling
of kind of uh a a depth of Dimension when you look at the Milky
Way so that's grandmother spider and she was was in charge of uh the uh the
doorways she was in charge of those portals in the sky
wormholes and she was the one that filtered out and that's where we get the Dreamcatcher
from from gumaga she grandmother's fighter she sits right on the Milky Way it's it's still still light out but the
Milky Way runs right across all the way across from from west to east east to west right below the grandmother spider
in the Horizon is still not coming up is uh the plees the Seven Sisters and that's called P the hole in
the sky and the hole in the sky is they says where we come from we come from that
place that's the start of the legend of the star woman or the sky woman Sky
mother and that's one that I I highly encourage you to seek out and hear more read more about so here's what I want to
leave you with this summer in the fall when you go out late at night and you
see that arm of the Milky Way watch it for a little while look at
it and make your own story follow your own imagination for me lately I see the
teapot of Sagittarius and I see the steam coming out of that teapot coming
all the way arcing through the summer triangle all the way through to copia where that bitter vain Queen is sitting
there waiting with her teacup for that smell of tea to tell her that it's ready
thank you wow very cool I mean it's so nice to um
to learn more about the history of of what Humanity has thought about the Milky Way um you know how these Legends
and stories kind of weave uh their way even into modern times uh you know it
on on a level where uh we want to
understand um you know uh how Humanity has has perceived uh the
cosmos um it's it's interesting how
um how we use that to learn how to survive as you know from tribes to you
know modern society even today so it's it's uh it's very cool and I'm glad that
you bring that out kareim our calendar and a lot of what we the way we lived our lives and the way we planned our the
events that that kind of would create a community we're all based around our
observations of the night sky and it's not just in the architecture like something like Stonehenge with during
the solstice has been kind of a focal point in media even just simple things
like the way in which you set up knowing that the Nile is about to overflow at a certain point so you have to set up your
Hut in a certain way and only be only let the kids free near the Nile at certain times of the year those little
bits of Common Sense were passed down from generation to generation as stor because it was the easiest way for them
to be remembered and so it's also the easiest way for us to remember them that's right that's right Harold lock
says excellent Kareem love the ancient perspective yeah that's
great okay all right so I think that Adrian is probably at Mission Control there uh mission
control and so than to uh y chomping at the bit here I
got a few pictures to uh share and I decided to
um listening to uh Kareem listening to your presentation there was only one thing
that was missing and that was the song by Stevie Wonder that uh said Ribbon in the Sky uh Ribbon in the Sky was the
name of the song and for whatever reason I went 49 years
till I realized that ribbon he may be talking about might be behind me right now in my
photo uh Milky Way that may well be a ribbon I'm G to go ahead and share my
screen and what I'll share with everyone is sort of my journey as a Milky Way
Chaser there are some of you out there that may have some favorite milk way
shots and what I'm what you're seeing are a bunch of Milky Way shots and um
I'm starting off with this picture which is not the Milky Way but notice I noticed the way the clouds looked around
this vulture and it reminded me of the one time that I tried to shoot directly
in the Milky Way and I ended up with and it should be in this I aimed at the
Lagoon nebula shooting in the Milky Way and I think the uh similarity between the two being
the cloudlike structure and something in the center that um may not actually be a
part of those clouds but stands out because it's um shaped against it
[Music] so I would say my Milky Way chasing has been
something that I've tried to do for quite some time and this image that you
see right here is to my recollection the very first time I actually got something
of the milkyway using a Canon 30d and a kit lens 18 to
55 um out in the country somewhere you see all of this light and uh it was a 49
Second exposure so there's all the star trailing here so those of you that you
know feel that you have to have the latest camera and you have to have the latest gear to get started chasing
especially the summer part of the Milky Way to get started chasing this you do not need a lot of equipment um you can
get started any picture that you take and this is this is from a few years ago
any picture that you can take that has um any of these features of the
Milky Way that you see yeah is both a good image and an image in
training um this I think I took this the same night this is me with a telescope
looking at Jupiter and trying to sit still for 20 or 30 seconds to try and
get a rather decent exposure of the Milky Way and
um you know not not all of the pictures you take are going to be good but I will
point out if I zoom in notice this little asterism that's in the signis region the coat hanger one of my
favorite things to look for when I take a Milky Way shot if I jump all the way
to the endgame which is this picture that's in
the back of that's in the back of me the coat hanger is still present
in all of my shots I'll talk about how I got this shot
um trying to describe what it's like and as I go through a few of the photos here
Milky Way with Aurora um what it's like to see the Milky Way
um changes with the darkness of the sky um let's see where this one is so
Overlake Kiron it's a beautiful area you can see some of the structure from
taking the pictures uh what I saw when I looked out over Lake hiron was I barely
saw any of this most of the time when I took these pictures including the
zodiacal light and the winter Milky Way the chase never stops the winter Milky Way comes out and you can go after it
with a Ry in the sky you can try and image it and I also imaged the Zod Al light we had a rather bright zodiacal
light this year um you know the trick is to get dust lanes and the processing
that you can do with you can use a Tracker so that you focus on the part of
the sky more but uh the darker the skies that you go just looking at the Milky
Way can be a breathtaking experience you can still see it as the sun is coming up
if you image at the right time this is is this is an interesting experiment that I tried with um I think I ended up
getting a fisheye effect when I process this and um makes for makes for an
interesting picture a lot of photographers yeah this is let me show you the the one that isn't there's the
there's the picture the straight picture I took this is the moon coming up the
sun has about an hour yet before will rise but the light from it is already
enough to begin Wasing the Milky Way out before that happened let's see if I have
it and I should yeah this was this was an image that I took before Twilight
began lots of light pollution and I simply added it to the um frame so
you've got all these yellows of different Milky Way Shooters
will treat the Milky Way in a way that fits their artistic capabilities and
that's if you're a photographer and you're not sure about these regions you
know that this is um an's over here and you know that um this is known as a
Crazy Horse nebula and you know that the string of nebulas that you can observe going right up the summer part of the
Milky Way if you're not sure of all of that you're just a nightscape photographer and you like to take
beautiful pictures of the Milky Way what you wind up doing is you look for a
beautiful location to film that ribbon over and
you end up with a shot let's see I know I have a few here you end up with a shot like
this where you have this you have a lake or another beautiful foreground and you
put the Milky Way in the background you may not necessarily go for detail so
much as you're trying to evoke imagery of a beautiful dark knight
Sky um and there's nothing wrong with doing that um sometimes when Milky Way
shooting you can get lucky here's an image that I took um I think this was a
year later um a year ago and I I've I've
practiced in different places where it should be difficult I went back to this site after I learned a little more about
processing images and Gathering more data but nothing
beats an image where you just get flat out lucky and a mil a meteor goes
through your Milky Way shot and you end up with a two for one I had a couple of
um Milky Way shots that uh that happened but um a couple of my favorites
may not be the best looking and you notice you're seeing a lot of Summer Milky Way a lot of Photography happens
around the summer Milky Way because it's so bright but you can image the winter
Milky Way if you um if you are so patient enough to do it but for me I
look for scenes that remind me of having been there so there's my truck there's the Milky Way if the night sky was
absolutely beautiful these are the sort of images I may not enter him into
contests I may not care oh look that looks like maybe another meteor or a plane all I want to know is I remember
being there and I remember taking the photo and enjoying the night sky and the
same thing goes for ant Arbor Michigan where the light
pollution is a is a bit more than you might expect if you can
get you can figure out a bordal rating go to clear do sky learn about the bort ratings and you can go into a bort
rating Sky of five or lower and with a decent image and a good clear night you
can still get some part of the Milky Way You Can frame it against you can you can
frame it against trees and make a beautiful scene like this or you can dig
right in which I know I did for a few of them and um you can shoot just the Milky
Way by itself and try and study it and this is this is this was done with a
um a uh camera that was modified to allow ha light Hal Alpha light and
actually it's full spectrum so all of the filters the IR filter was taken out too and you end up getting more detail
this is this is kind of where I am with my Milky Way Photography is learning how to get more detail
without star bloat a little bit better tracking and um you know getting
images that reveal more of what this Ribbon in the Sky is and
um I think I I took another picture I fail to see it here oh this is it I took
another picture over that uh Lake hon using that camera and lo and behold the
North American nebula shows up in a wide angle view it looks more painterly but
you know that's coming with time practice and uh processing tools that I
use Lightroom CC Photoshop topaz Doo is
a is a tool that I've recently added to my um processing for Milky Way shots
um but if you can make it to a dark
sky and that's where I'm going to I'm going to show this image this image
looks pretty much the way that I saw the night sky with my own eyes you rarely see a Milky Way
photo that is well it looks like my own eyes and you do it on purpose when you
know how to process but this was a bortle 2 sky I was headed to try and
catch the Milky Way over to quam and Falls this is the picture I got there's a little bit of
the Milky Way the sun was already coming up I missed it by about 10 seconds kind
of like tonight where I missed my presentation Time by about 10 seconds same thing but I'll tell you why I
missed it I stopped along the road Highway 123 um and I looked up at the night sky
when I was when I noticed there were were a whole lot of stars and I just wanted to see well how dark is a bort 2
sky I got out of the truck and I looked and I saw this I saw color in the Milky
Way I saw this detail these uh dark Lanes the dust
lanes for the first time I saw it without having taken a picture of it all
of those other pictures that I showed were pictures where I saw the wispy CL
in I saw something there but I kind of knew that was a Milky Way and I had to
image it in order to bring out that detail the detail is already here
there's coat hanger one of my favorite things um it's an a inspiring sight when you
see the entire Milky Way stretch across the sky and you see detail structure and
color and uh it's my hopes that as I go to a bort one sky that I'm able to see
even more of this because I will have my cameras ready and I will be ready to
image so that image that's in the back of me is my processed version of it I've
got a few better ones in this I think but you get the idea how bright the Milky Way gets the darker the skies and
I really recommend if you get a chance to see the Milky naked eye um it can be
this little bit here when you're trying to make a beautiful image and you've got Aurora going um it can be hard to marry
the two but um then you go to another
angle yeah you you want to get to a place where you can see the Milky Way look just like this without a camera um
if you can do it once in your lifetime I recommend it um you can still get beautiful pictures as long as it's dark
enough um again you can actually image a Milky Way at bort I would say bort 5 or
more you can start getting some detail but really takes bortle two and bort one
before you start to see things and do you need to modify your camera well if
you get under a sky like this this was taken with a stock camera a Canon 6D that is not modified and all of this
light can come through because of how dark and that's Steve even with these towns shining some light on the horizon
they're low enough on the horizon but you know so a bordal one sky
you can imagine some of this it looks this way when you're just looking up so so that's my my experience in my
journey um very very appropriate I'm glad I'm glad you brought on your game
here um Adrian to you know share your experience and your love for the Milky
Way so uh you know I was uh I've known this
figure for a while there was um uh a study done by
Italian um uh researchers and US researchers and it was just basically a
study of how many people cannot see the Milky Way and it's something like in the
range of 80% of the human population cannot see the Milky Way from where they
live uh now that doesn't mean that people haven't traveled to see it um uh
you know I'm very curious uh what what the number is of people who have actually never experienced it you know
and uh um you know if you're listening out there and you've never experienced it we're you know we all of us here are
going to highly recommend that uh you make that trip out to Dark Skies to do
that so yeah so I wanted to answer a question that I saw and it was a
question about what about a dedicated camera and a dedicated lens like ranan
ranan has come out with some really good lenses lately it's unfortunate I just
picked up a uh Sigma 14 to 24 art lens that I'm going to shoot with had I
thought about it um may have looked at ranan series of lens for those of you
that would like to get into to the Hobby a dedicated camera such as a Canon ra is
not a bad idea um because you'll get more detail out of the Milky Way and
you'll be able to shoot in more light polluted skies because you've got a camera that'll pull out some of more of
the detail of the Milky Way check out those ranan or samyang lenses the 14
millimeter F28 the 24 millimeter F28 they've got one that has a um has a
green light that lets you know that you're at Infinity so it's a it's a
focusing Aid so that you can start there with seeing if you've got sharp stars
and then adjust a little bit from there the uh process of getting sharp Stars there's a couple of different ways I'm
out of time now but um definitely check that gear out if if you all are out
there and interested starting to do um some Milky Way Photography Third
Rock astronomy what about aswo 6 2600 MC Pro since he has the dedicated cameras
for scopes give it a try um that dedicated camera
is going to pull more detail in than a stock DSLR camera but you do have to
tune it depending on what type of shooting you want to do um if you want to do wide angle and have the full Milky
Way and you want to put something in front you may find that there's a whole lot of red um those that do
DSO shots you're aiming at a part of the Milky Way and you're doing things like
the North American nebula or you're doing you're doing M8 you're doing M20 you're doing M16 or 17 and um you're
doing you're doing all of these DSO objects you're shooting in that region
near the center of the Milky Way or you're shooting out toward the cassieopia wing or you're shooting at
Orion when you're shooting at the rosette that's in the Milky Way Too during the winter so um you're um you
whatever you've got just fire at the Milky Way whether you're doing wide angle or you're doing narrow and you
know you're doing DSLR uh photography or your dedicated Astro cameras just try it out and see
what you get so if that's SC let me turn it back over to you thank you Adrian thank you very much well uh we are now
heading to the southern hemisphere to Caesar brolo in buen aaries Argentina uh
Cesar AR has been um you know on many of our Global star parties uh but he is a
major force of uh amateur astronomy uh and I think also uh working directly
with professional astronomers uh uh you know as he rubs shoulders with those guys he's given
Eclipse tours he has uh he's Neck Deep right now in restoring a historic Aston
astronomical complex in Argentina and uh so we're lucky to have him I know
he's busy all day uh working with Optics and selling telescopes and all the rest
of the things that srao Optica sells but uh then he stays up all night to hang
out with us on the global Star Party Cesar I'm gonna turn it over to you thanks for coming on again hi Scott hi
everyone uh yes today I returned to the balcony I'm crazy because it's colder
that I suspect but because winter is is ready now to to start yesterday uh
started winter yesterday and uh but of course that the
the temperates are not so cold but um I left my my um my setup uh from the
living room from next time but I today I had I had a a um the idea to return one
time more in Winter uh to the balcony outside it's not it's not a it's not a
background picture it's is the telescope it's real I it's real yes yes the people
say in the comments if say siss think that it's not normal suffer yeah the
idea is enjoy astronomy without suffering but okay we are uh uh crazy people too
and I prefer no the the ne is is amazing uh I have um my target of um first of
all I have a a small presentation about Milky Way and something that of
course our our most um the constellation
more um uh visible H in in our Milky Way
in southern hemisphere is is Kooks krooks was um of course that all all
numbers of the constellations in southern hemispheres is about
something um that is not a Greek or Arabian uh Arabian uh culture if not is
more about for example you know that this well cross is of course the the
time of of religion but you have oang or
Compass or a lot of different or
uh well a lot of instruments for navigation because our uh constellation
that was named uh before before uh or in the in the new
new age in the in the last uh 2,000 years um when the people discovered
Southern Hemisphere and some something that is is that not all people knows is
that Cru the Cru uh constellations for
origin Arian people in Argentina or in Patagonia in South America was the fit
of the CH the CH is a a um is oh I I um we we call it nandu is the
same maybe Scott can you help me with the with the name of the biggest biggest
um African uh beard but don't fly only only run H the ostrich the ostrich well
yes in South America we have an smaller outrage they call we call it nyandu the
original people call it CH let me CH
yes and let me share
screen I can show you well you can see the my screen yes okay
well in this is small presentation here is my setup uh actually I using um a
telescope or 90 mm H F10 uh
telescope and uh if not I normally use the exus 100 with a camera and and
objective zo between 100 and 300 mm but most of time I use more telescope
different kinds of telescopes M this is my setup similar like
now this is a thing when we are we are going to our uh our another house of the
family to to have the above uh compatable SK it's not this year
unfortunately but maybe in few months we return for weekends to make a
Photography in a great way again but I love make picture from the city this is
a a 25 19 is a is a class open cluster and this is uh this the part of a buing
in front of me this is this is a a little a little beautiful part of a
Milky Way from the city uh the treasures of of uh Milky Way
from the city of course yes I process this open Glasser and this is something
that you can see the different colors in any open cluster that you can see in the
southern hemisphere in Micky way is is a huge a huge uh uh difference between
colors of the stars because our open clusters that have a really really
different sequence of of the life of the stars are beautiful
to see are really beautiful to to see from the city not only for astrophotography if not that is they are
very enjoyable uh to to see from the city with a medium a medium siiz
telescope that's a beautiful cluster picture cluster I love I love I love the
the multiple colors Cesar this is really nice nice image yes with with that easy
it's something that you can see your n with your naked eyes
and is very easy to to make a a single
background exraction to have uh the colors the the contrast the difference
the dynamic range range of some people like to say about about the difference
between brights and colors many many of these clusters are in this area of the
sky in in in the South and it's very easy to to enjoy to Naked Eyes or to
make uh a couple of single single pictures with a uh camera or uh cell
phone smartphone this was uh last weekend uh
unfortunately was was uh just a little maybe I tonight I can make a another one
much better with this telescope uh senta is is a galaxy of course that is not a
part of a miy way because it's a Galaxy but is very near is is very near to the
line of the Milky Way oh like something like because normally you're watching
you're watching the the galaxies in Virgo constellation or carus or or uh
constellations that are down or or up of our our uh Milky Way our galaxy no in
the North or South pole but this is interesting because it's it's a a very
near to the to the Omega centus cluster
um the hamburger Galaxy this one
is is something that is is great to serve in our astronomical session
because I am talking about a hamburger I've always wanted to see Sor say that's a beautiful yeah it's quite bright too
yes yes unfortunately this picture don't don't ER don't uh make a the their own
entire H beauty beauty of this galaxy but I can
make a from the city I can make a much better picture because this the last
night we had a little teeny clouds in the skies that that dust Ling that goes
through the middle scissor it's pretty easily visible right even visually yes
yes know from the city um I Tred it I try it but um maybe it's maybe something
that maybe not with this telescope this telesc is only 90 mm F10 but with Aid
cine eight Ines you can see especially
uh I see that uh from the rooftop in the 37
floor awesome but from my balcon is I I couldn't see I couldn't watch I
couldn't see well the Galaxy yes I [Music]
could sorry you seen it you Southern us star parties like the Texas Star Party
or the winter star party in Florida you can see Centura and you can also see
Omega centuri highth really in the South low
very low very lowow it's very cool yeah it is cool it
is I have seen them from uh winter star party also from um uh the anab bgo state
park in California I've seen yeah the nice tantalizing taste just before you go to the southern hemisphere
right uh yes and as it's the same Sensation that Molly says of to see
something from the another part of of of the of the sky for us is sometimes we
when we watch Andromeda galaxy in the north very near to the Horizon in a very
very dark sky is wow is and yes for us
is maybe in this two many a few degrees over over the noron Over the Horizon
watching to the to the north well here here look that the the original people
make this is incredible because maybe yes this the the nandu or the Cho how the original people
uh call it and they make the constellation the nandu
foot and this is incredible because the Spanish people came to say no no this is the cross the sac cross and they say
okay no this is the CH the CH foot maybe I don't I don't know the name for to say
food in the original for the original people but they know the is something
that that um that as a in the last
talking of Karim uh that how different
cultures see the sky um maybe you can make another constellation with another
stars but how this is incredible that to separates culture from the old Patagonia
and from Europe see the same see the same four stars to make
something this is something something that is H uh I am thinking in the the last that
Karim uh talk about about this and it's it's very interesting it's it's it's
amazing in some part say okay but you make a the same constellation with
another sense but it's incredible it is and from from culture to culture in the
southern hemisphere there's so much diversity in the way they see the stars it's beautiful yeah yes it's incredible
well here do you have part of the Southern crust that I took from from
here it's very rich part of the sky this the the um the coast Suk on
uh this and here you have the CR Southern Cross here you have the C
soak m co so no
sack sorry I was French and Italian movies last week
and I've I I've lost part of my English how do you how do you call it in
Spanish s Caron there you go s De Caron
yes here you can see I see the jewel box as well
yes the jewel box here now I have a surprise I I have my telescope pointing
to the to the Shel
box well this is a Tarina is a picture that I make from here
too is another Shel of the southern part oh
yeah rri make a for pictures ofak Karina
too is is um not easy
uh not easy to to to to watch from from
our from the city to see but if a
photography making a lot of pictures and pictures you know you can make
it at the cluster Omega Cent cluster I can try and make a a a a a picture
tonight maybe but the problem that that tonight is a little C here and I need to
go inside later and this is a picture that took uh
my son atin from um from uh um center of the
Argentina in our last holidays in April in April yes here do we have the souter
cross here is this is another another sky and this is how looks the Milky Way
in southern hemisphere we can
see or alphao the cross sou
cross interesting paty dark nebula very many many people say magelan Dark
Cloud to this it's interesting and it's amazing how you can see in in dark in
Dark Skies here in Argentina it's something that come on
look that it's it's a hole in the sky it's
incredible and well this is was my my presentation I need to change to my if
you like I can thank you Adrian to say Argentina
will be my destination yes all of you are welcome to Argentina to make an
party together definitely sister we'll take you up on that yes yes is
real let me if I have a little of time I can share uh
with um maybe in the remote in the remote maybe
you can see in the remote uh Canon viewer of my camera yes maybe you can
see STS yes this is the sh box and now it's a clear ey I moving my
telescope my back
okay I love that so Cesar we just see a a dark
screen right now we see the live view we see dark it's starting to there's some some
faint Stars inside the white box so it's starting to
appear and I sorry Cameron that I I couldn't understand the that you told me
my my my comparion of English English times is horrible oh I was I was saying
that we see um we see a very faint two
stars inside the White yes yes the sh box yes but we can make a a 20 20
seconds explanation yeah this this is live and
then you're GNA stretch it right yes yes no no no this is is is the yes it's it's
a real time and now Cesar somebody wants to is
lodging a complaint and the complaint is is that they say thank you Caesar you
gave me a bad habit I'm using your saying oh come on come on oh come
on yeah that I I will be using that too Cesar come on come on yeah good one
I think that that that you've got to patent that that's your that's your catch phrase that's right I don't know
let me let me I change I change sorry I share my screen
again to show you the the
picture okay that's a little bit better I was me I was that I move this is why I
I have the my my floor here in the balcony is a deck I prise that I move a
lot just talking and I move the picture because the the de are very bad for for
astronomy to put the telescope yes and I I know that building
mes I move a lot in 20 seconds but you can see here sorry the the movement of
the picture but I can I can take another one while we are talking
I'm this time I'll be quiet not quiet of silen not not moving not moving yeah not
moving while you're talking yeah sure impossible for genetics of Italian yes I
know yeah my God my
goodness yes but we can see but you can see you can see the different colors
yeah it's very important for um it's inspiring Caesar because you're
in the middle of a big city okay lots of light pollution uh but you're still able
to get deep Sky objects so that's that's great yes absolutely
absolutely wonderful here maybe I be we then try another
one yeah I we saw it move a little bit I think think the stars were the Tad rounder on this that yes yes these
pictures of course for stacking are not so not good and normally when for
example something that that despite the the the winter and the cold weather
something that is great to to it's it's a demonstration it's a live view from
somebody halfway around the world so Something Magic very It's Magic here
comes the next one oh here
okay ah okay no no I'm too much because 30 seconds might uh don't um the problem
is that try with only 20
seconds um yes the problem is that my one of the things are that my my polar
alignment is normal is not is it's rolling not
accurate and maybe 30 seconds is a lot
but I think that I will I guilt of move the the floor with my hand or something
so C are you able to uh look at the histogram right now and and clip the
bottom in to to take care of that light pollution
[Music] um well of about light pollution um we I
have a a gr the grou of am astronomia
Amer in Facebook is the is is the grow
sorry the the page in Facebook for for my astronomical business the name is
astronomia do am mat the growth of uh of
uh the number of the growth of of the the page of Facebook the group the group
is seos ofur Dark Skies astronom mat is
the the idea is is fight all time against the problem of of light
pollutions actually in buenosaires in my area I have a 9.3 Bal imortal
scale and I can use uh for a most sorry that
I okay sorry um yes I I understand now um the B yes I
use the the normal ALS the SOS utility is the name
um but if you for example normally when
I make uh pictures uh from this kind of Sky it's um a normally use oion tree uh
I mix of pictures with luminance without filter and some pictures with CLS or
oxygen Tre um you can get a much better
uh quantity of of information in in your pictures more easy later to process but
um with a BAL 9.3 anything is easy
is especially for uh for uh objects that
have a for example is um the cluster that that you can
see open cluster is very easy to to process but when you work with a uh an
an big surface nebula like L nebula or
orina nebula the background extration first of all the people think
that the that the sky is black and this is not especially when you think in a in
a neula in um inside the the Milky Way
and um and you have the extension of this nebulas especially iarina or or
well m42 or a lot of nebula are bigger
that you can think I I told with my customer sometime when they say okay my
pictur is a disaster why you overprocess the sky is not so dark
instead in yes and this is something that that yeah you know actually I was just
to say Caesar that uh I think what I was thinking is there's two different
approaches right if it's just stars to your point right if it's just Stars you should with a cluster you should be able
to use the hisyam and clip the light pollution because there's enough intensity but you're right on with
extended objects like nebula and that you're going to lose a lot of the information because if you clip that you
lose the nebulosity right that's that's that's what that's what you're saying right absolutely absolutely yes is is um
many times with a a very high pollution you think that you're removing uh light
pollution or background and you are removing information of background of
your nebulosa of your nebula exactly or or or the background or the mil of the
Milky Way I have a picture this week last week of uh trifida nebula and lagon
nebula together with my my soon with the same setup of exos 100 and the
first thing that is that come on the the sky in this area is very bright and you
have a lot of background of stars between this two ER trii nebula and Lum
nebula if you have the FI of course the field of of view to
to to pick yeah I mean you can Target together with a 300 millimeters you
don't have problems you can see that in Adrian's pictures right Adrian had
the in the center there's a continuous net velocity between that whole area and
you you have to go to a dark sky to be able to capture that yeah yes absolutely
yes okay Caesar thank you so much thank you it's a pleasure yeah wonderful
wonderful okay well up next uh uh is uh Molly Wakeling and uh her segment
astronom Al okay astronom Al's universe and she's going to be talking about the
dumbbell nebula um uh she could be talking about almost anything because
Molly always uh she not only gives us kind of the background that a lot of amateur astronomers know but she'll dive
into the science and physics of things that kind of give us uh a greater
knowledge of what we're looking at uh so I've always really enjoyed uh Molly's
interpretations and findings and um and she inspires everybody I think to learn
a little bit more about science so Molly um you uh you've been gone for a little
while you you went on a trip I I think and and you moved right you're on the
East Coast now is that correct yes so I I when I was putting the presentation
together for tonight I realized I've been gone for a whole month from Global star party so we miss you back yeah
final exams and then I went to yos for a week with my a lot of fun uh
unfortunately did not get to do any Imaging because the trees were very tall at our
campsite couldn't really see much um and uh yeah and i' I've moved out to Ohio so
now I'm in the Eastern Time Zone okay so I'll probably be coming on earlier in
the broadcasts now instead of later that's right okay well great my my
telescopes are not here yet my my stuff's not going to be delivered for a bit because of the labor shortage so um
but I can still do a Shon of all's Universe segments until I get my so oh
great to have you back great to have you back yeah thank you um all right I'll share my screen
here yeah I'm just got my laptop now so back down to one screen instead of two screens which is sad the one screen
should work all right so tonight's object of interest is the dumbbell nebula which is
a a pretty bright cool nebula that you can see from a variety of Sky conditions
and is always a it's a really great Target to start with uh when you're
starting to get into deep Sky Imaging because it's pretty easy to find and
comes out nicely in pictures yeah okay so H what is the
dumbbell nebula so it's a it's a type of nebula called a planetary nebula now
planetary nebula is actually a bit of a misn it doesn't have anything to do with planets but when early astronomers were
observing these through their tiny telescopes it they looked kind of a
planet like like the planets in in their shape and so they were for the time
dubbed planetary nebula because they couldn't quite figure out what they were but as we got bigger telescopes and the
ability to take pictures of them we're able to see a lot more of what they were so planetary nebuli they
the the end stage of a lot of main sequence Stars between the uh the mass
of between about the mass of the Sun and about eight times the mass of the Sun so
uh our star will actually eventually have a similar fate and will become a planetary nebula so I'll go into more of
what exactly is happening in a bit um but in the dumball nebula it's a you
have there's a star at the center and it's ejecting its gas and the red edges
that I'll show in a picture in a second is the the bow shock of the hydrogen gas
interacting or kind of the shock wave interacting with the interstellar medium hydrogen gas and the star that is left
over at the end of all of this is a white dwarf the Dum is also known as Messier 27 being the 27th object on
Charles messier's list of things in the sky that are not comets
all right so where can the dump Bell nebula be found so the right picture is uh is a shot from stellarium showing
where the dump Neva is located so it's up during the summertime it's just uh
sort of above the Milky Way so um sort of to to the west of the Milky Way But
up high in the sky as you can see on the map there we have um we have denb and
seder over here in signis and Al and Vega forming our summer triangle and the
dula is kind of in the middle of the summer triangle uh so you do have to Star Hop a bit to get to it but it's in
a pretty familiar part of the sky and it is quite bright so it's it's uh not too difficult to
find um galactically speaking I couldn't find a good map showing uh where the
nebula was located but based on looking in Sky Safari and knowing where it is in
relation to the galactic core I estimate it's about over here uh in the next in
the in the Perseus arm the next arm behind us uh but it's kind of in the direction of the of the core of the
Galaxy since we do see it during the summertime when we're looking this way as opposed to the winter time when we're
looking this way all right so some fast facts about the
dumbbell nebula it is in the constellation vulpecula which is not one of the ones that you can say like oh
look there's the I think I think see pegula I think that's the fox like oh there's the head of the fox and the feet
of the fox it's not so easy to to find it's kind of like it's it's in between signis and alter and um near the the the
two star segment that we recognize is Saga pretty nicely it's about
1,360 light years away so relatively close astronomically speaking its apparent magnitude is 7.5
so pretty bright and can be seen in a lot of telescopes it's a lot smaller
than the so the extended the large nebula like the Lagoon nebula the Orion Nebula those are hundreds of Lighty
years across and but planetary nebula are much smaller because it's a single star material being ejected out so the
diameter of the dumbell nebula has been measured to be about 2.8 Lighty years across and it was discovered by Charles
Messier and he listed that in his catalog a lot of stuff in messier's catalog wasn't necessarily his Discovery
uh some things he did discover some things other astronomers discovered and he included them in his catalog but at
least according to the internet uh M27 the was discovered by Charles
M so what are planetary nebula um
let's see I had some notes but I can't look at them while I'm on a single screen I forgot about that okay um so
what's happening in a in a planetary nebula is you have a a star like the sun
and as it gets toward the end of its life it runs out of hydrogen in the core
to fuse into helium so there's a lot of heavier helium in the core and the star
begins to expand a bit because it's it's cooling down because there's not uh it's
not burning hydrogen but then uh as the helium begins to condense in the core it
starts to heat back up again as gravity is pulling the helium together and this
causes uh kind of the the area of fusion to move outward in the star away from
the core and there's more hydrogen out there so it begins hydrogen Fusion again
and then the core continues to get hotter and it gets hot enough to start fusing helium up into heavier elements
like carbon and oxygen and uh and these don't produce as much energy to counteract the effects of
gravity So eventually the the hydrogen further out starts to get burnt through
and it goes sort of through the cycle of of getting hot in the core but then also
expanding because uh it's losing um its ability to kind of hold itself together
is trying to find things to burn or to to fuse we say burning but we don't mean
in the way of like a campfire it's it's Fusion is what we're talking about we say burning and the star begins actually
expands out to be a red giant because the surface becomes very cool since um
like like a gas in in a gas canister when it becomes more separated it
becomes cooler and our sun will eventually go through the same process
and will go out to become the size of the orbit of Mars and and consume the
inner planets as it as it starts to expand this hope be for another five billion years so don't
worry um it eventually gets out to be large enough um that it's considered in
the asymptotic giant Branch or AGB which is some of the acronym that you're seeing in the picture on the right there
and uh it's unable to to hold on to that gas but the Stellar Wind continues to
push it away and the the red that you're seeing in the dumbbell nebula and other
planetary nebula is is um the is hydrogen gas and the bow shock so the
shock wave interacting with the interstellar medium and that blue gas that's toward the middle is a lot of the
the oxygen that has been produced in the core of the star wow so I on the right
is sort of a map of the different parts of a planetary nebula on the left so
they don't it this doesn't happen isotopically the the gas is not pushed out evenly in all directions to form a
sphere because the star is rotating the Stellar Wind and um because Stellar Wind
has to do with the magnetic field the star and that's rotating so the Stellar Wind is going out in a particular set of
directions as opposed to all directions so you kind of get this lobe structure and depending on whether you're looking
at the dump at any particular planetary nebula uh face on or Edge on is when you
can kind of see those loes like with the um with the dumbbell nubula or you're
kind of looking down the edge of the coat can like for the Helix nebula and the Ring Nebula so that's that's kind of the
shape that you're seeing there um from different angles so here's one of my pictures of
the dumbbell nebula to kind of show these different parts of it when very nice thank you uh when when you take it
with narrow band filters you can get a lot more of these dimmer outer areas
which was very exciting to capture but I if you just start with a like a DSLR on
a telescope you can at least for sure get this hourglass here in the middle
and when you can get up to longer exposures then you can get what we call the football shape here so there's a lot
of really cool structure and stuff happening in here going to zoom in a
little bit um so we have this cool red X that kind of goes through the middle
and you can see how there's sort of a preferential direction for the bow shock
heading outwards from it we also have sort of these these clouds of oxygen
coming out on the other side and thus forming some intricate structure and um I don't know a whole
lot about the Dynamics of what else going on here but um there's some really
cool structure going on with the dumbbell neula and a lot that we don't know yet about planetary nebula and what
causes all these different structures that we see in them all right let me here we
go um I uh so the dumbb nebula doesn't glow on quite as many wavelengths as as
what I showed previously the rosette nebula because it is a planetary nebula it's mostly gas that was uh being fused
in the star that is being lit up by ultraviolet radiation from the Star so
mostly we're seeing it glow on the visible spectrum but a lot of it also grows glows in the infrared Spectrum so
this is an infrared image of the same nibula and you can see how there's sort
of that Sim that similar lobe structure with the with the hourglass shape and
those outer portions um but different concentrations of it I'm not sure off
hand um what all EX exact gases and wavelengths we're seeing here and this red image um but in different
wavelengths of white you can see different structures and different sys going on which is really
cool so if you want to observe the dumbbell nebula visually it's a sort of
a lower magnification so your shorter focal length telescopes um it's a it's a
splotch but bright enough to to pick out among along the background even under
moderate light pollution I I frequently go to it when I'm doing public Outreach events uh even in my sh cagin and then
of course if you go up to high magnification you might be able to glean some more detail if you're under very
dark skies uh I think you can also see the football shape in addition to The Hourglass shape um I have to admit I'm
not a big visual Observer um but uh this are kind of my estimations from what visual observing I
have done on it photographically a small field of view is better because then you can pick up a lot more of the detail so
the previous picture I showed was um at 1,260 millimet on my 8 in M Cass with a
Folker reducer but you can actually do a decent job on shorter focal lengths too
this image is taken at 500 millimeters and you can still get some really nice shape and structure and color to it it
doesn't just look like a tiny little thing so you can really take it with a wide variety of telescopes which is a lot of fun and it's a really excellent
narrow band Target you can get it's it's all h hen and oxygen gas is pretty much
all it is that's glowing uh so um it's really great in narrow band but it's
also is bright enough that you can you can get a lot of really great detail even just in wideband RGB on your DSLR
or on your one shot color camera or with RGB filters on your monard camera so you
could be imaged in a lot of ways a lot of different telescopes pretty versal Target and that's all I've got that's it
that's pretty awesome I didn't want to take up your whole show so um people have been talking
about um you know just the uh the dynamic of being able to see
presentations like yours Molly and and all the rest of you that will have given presentations and we'll give them
tonight um they love the idea that they can ask questions okay they can it's
live uh they can talk to each other you know and they were trying to contrast this against like watching television
shows you know and so um and uh you know I I you know I I have to confess I have
learned so much from from watching all of you and uh I feel that my uh the
richness of of what I um have experienced as an amateur astronomer has
become you know hfold after doing all these programs with you so I really want
to thank all the presenters here um and for coming back again and again it's
it's really awesome uh we are going to take a 10-minute break uh and uh so you can
stretch you can get some coffee um get a sandwich um and uh Talk Amongst
yourselves if you want that's great um I'm going to test something though
because uh we will have a presentation from John Briggs and uh last time we had
a little bit of audio trouble so I'm going to uh just test this and you guys in the
audience can tell me if this is working or not okay so just hang in
there
and and tell me if you can hear audio or not because I can't hi everybody it's so
John Briggs speaking to you for magdalina New Mexico we can hear the audio this time hear the audio good okay
y all right so I'm Gonna Save that um we are going to
go we are we are gonna go to an intermission here and
um if you guys chat a little well Molly I can tell you from
experience that yes you indeed see the football shape in a uh in a large uh
observing instrument or dark sky or both um I
think some of the visual astronomers that I uh saw um the dumbbell with had
some filters to put in oh yeah that a bit Yeah if you use Like an Oxygen
filter or an ultra high contrast or nebula filter um this would be a good
there's my cat in the background yeah I see I was gonna comment on that but it's
okay um good to see the cat made the trip as well yeah yeah both the cats are here
they're getting settled into the new house um they're a little weirded out because my house is very empty right now
my my stuff hasn't been delivered yet but um I got them a another little cat
tree thing that they're sitting in and they seem to really like that uh but they're very anxious to have their their
ctio back their outdoor ctio cat cage that they can be outside but stay safe
in oh I love that good name it's a good name for it yeah yeah well um I will
probably be like a fellow Rascal Kareem and duck out and probably watch a little
bit online um get some sleep this time I've got some uh work to do tomorrow morning
so Scott thank you for scheduling me a little early I almost made it to my assigned
time Adrian thank you so much thank you I I enjoy doing these and look forward
to the next one yep and thanks Adrian y aw yep have a good night everyone and
thank that for all those out there that uh nice comments on the images I'm hoping to get them a little better I'm
downloading EOS backyard as we speak so I'm going to be playing around with that
as well yeah I like I like it quite a lot yep I'll uh we'll see what we can do
with it all right everyone have a good night take care have a good night and
keep looking up that's right that's right I'm actually gonna
head out as well because uh now that I'm on the East Coast it's uh it's late a
little late yeah oh my gosh yeah bit of a regular try trying to get
back into my postco work schedule of actually having to go in
so not getting thank foring M thank you so much and um hopefully we can get uh
we can see you next next week next week uh on Tuesday is the birthday of George
Ellery hail okay so this is going to be um I'm going to see what I can do to
pull out some uh interesting presenters uh that know a lot about George Eller
Hae we'll see what What U there's a few people out there that know uh that have
done some historical studies of him and that kind of thing but what a great astronomer and just over overall just an
amazing individual with all the contributions that he's given us so but um I digress and uh um but uh hopefully
um uh if if you're a fan of George Ellery hail and the yery observatory and
the mount Wilson Observatory and Palomar Observatory and the uh American
Astronomical Society um and the astrophysical journal all of things that
he created um not to mention also Caltech uh you know uh this is somebody
that uh deserves a good birthday celebration it'll be his 153rd
so cool cool all right yes I should be able to be back next week so cool thanks
Molly take care okay bye bye
bye hey Scott just FY uh when you I don't know if everyone else is getting
this but when you're sharing the uh chat screen right now it's flickering yeah I noticed that okay you're seeing the same
thing then okay I don't see it on the broadcast side but when I look at you
know I watch it as it broadcasts it's now now it's I don't know why yeah it
stopped yeah and then and then I and then I see it maybe it's when you're not talking or when nobody's talking let's
see I don't know yeah as soon as there's no audio as soon as there's no audio it
starts flashing huh yeah it's and if we keep in talking it stabilizes it looks
like that's interesting yeah I do notice this speech
stops it
I've been stopped by speech before and I think I flickered before
too oh I like Caesar's rig that he's setting up on the balcony there oh yeah
I on an EXs uh 200 yeah or 100 sorry 100
right so Libby uh your presentation is going to be about Lyn's dark nebula
right yes uh I'm curious as to
um you know what what uh what was your path to kind of uh being interested in
in ly's dark nebula well I'm still following the list
I made a long long time ago yeah remember when I first started the night that I got back home yeah the first
thing I did was I got a piece of paper out of my my desk and I made a year-long list of subjects to talk about as I went
through each talk and so I'm following the list and I
remember I made it back then and I just decided to add a lot of nebulas all on
the list because I'm very interested with nebulas they're one of the couple things that got me very interested in
the space because they just looked very pretty and I also like to do a lot of
art so when when I look at nebulas they just like they just look like a random
piece of art in the middle of all of the
Galaxy that's awesome Molly I I used to love neb I still love nebul but I I
started the same as you I always was looking for nebul it was really always was so fun to to see
them because there's so there's so much different structure right different colors and like like or
yeah they just look really pretty and I feel like that's one of the things that
got me interested in the face because I really love the the Orion Nebula and
then I you just look at every single other nebula and they're all just so
pretty and they're gorgeous and they're they all they all have these distinct features that make them pretty because
some of them have like really sharp lines and then the rest of them are just a bunch of random Stardust and then all
the universe that we live in yeah there's so many different types
of structures and it's it's so fun to explore them and and really uh you know
look at them and see all the different features yeah it's like a sunset a sunset or or a
um or clouds you know clouds looking at watching clouds it's a especially when when the
sunsets are reflecting I you see Orion nebulas in the sky where I love the sunsets are really
pretty um like I have an airport right by my house so planes fly over like every five
minutes and there's all these step planes and everything and it's really pretty outside during sunset and there's
like a big pretty sunset and my house faces the West so we get to see the sunset a lot and um all these planes are
flying everywhere so
so yeah yeah that that would be sometimes if it's cloudy you can see
the the the lights right from the from the airplanes go through the clouds
that's what you need when it's when it when when a when the plane is landing have you ever seen that yeah I've seen
that a couple times I've seen um one time I was looking at the moon through my telescope and was really late at
night and I was outside and I live a mile away from the airport almost it's
that close and um and I was looking at the moon and then a stunt plane just flies like like
Zips right over it and I was like only it was SL [Music]
enough okay okay well I think the audience kind of helped me figure out what was making my uh my um my widget
flicker like that so that was kind of weird but uh I think it was in fact that my mouse was over the U dialogue box or
something so uh when I pulled it away it seemed to help so thanks for bearing with us uh up next is uh Libby Libby and
the stars and Libby has uh given do you know how many it's been now Libby
um I remember when I first started I joined at the eth global star party I've tried to keep that on track so this
would be my 43rd 43rd talks okay so she starts out
she's you're only 10 at the time you're 11 now uh so she's kind of she's grown
up she's actually taller than she was uh when she first started but uh you've gotten really uh polished and smooth and
comfortable um with the audience I really that's great and um and I think
that you have uh really learned how to dig out a lot of information in your
presentations and your presentations also your PowerPoints look very very nice so Libby thanks very much for all
the um all the work you've given and uh uh you know uh we I look forward to
having you on as many times as you want to be on but uh I hope to carry this on
Till Death till death well let's not go that far yet okay yeah all right I'm
only 11 I'm certainly gonna Keel over before you do so yeah I always thought I was
never the person that liked to do like public speaking and stuff but I really enjoy doing the star parties because
it's a topics that I like speaking about I like speaking about astronomy and I'm
very much for girls getting into space and kids getting into space because you know there's not a lot of resources out
there and I know that my talks are definitely helping people out there so I
have a presentation to share that I made so I'm going to go ahead and share that
okay and today I'm presenting about Lyon's dark nebula and um I also um
decided since the theme of this star party is about the Milky Way that I uh write a poem at the end of this about
the Milky Way because I remember I did once a long long time ago I wrote a poem
about I think it was a solar system or Jupiter and Saturn maybe it was
something in between and um I remember I presented it and so and a lot of people
liked it so I posted it on my Facebook page and everything and I gave that out
and I thought that um I was like you know since I did a um po
um poetry last time I do it this time was just a short little thing because it is pretty fun to do and I used to really
like doing poetry when I was really little so I still like to enjoy every once in a
while now so let start nebula there's not a lot of photos out there of one
darkar nebula um I tried to look but this is the best quality I could find for this page um so lindar nebula is
just nebula located on the plane of our Milky Way I thought this is a great um topic to talk about because um a lot of
the talks today are about the Milky Way and our home the Milky Way galaxy and so
um I just thought it was a great presentation to talk about this nebula is actually dark nebula as you can tell
by the name of it um it is close to the sephus flare region so if you look where
the Milky Way is I know I did um a talk on the constellation cus a while ago and
I was talking about how cus is on the plane of the Milky Way and the Milky Way is kind of stretching it across the sky
and you can barely see it from my house because there obviously the light pollution and I live in a very light
polluted area but you can still kind of see a trail of kind of stars just all in
the plane and so um it is a little bit on top of the um just a little bit north
of the Milky Way um the plane and it's just a little bit up there and so um the
cloud contains enough um I like to call it Stardust material to completely block
any possible light so if you get see in the photo a little bit you can't see much stars behind the nebula and that is
why is it it is a dark nebula because most nebulas that you look at have all these colors and
everything and they're you can't you can even see the stars behind them a little bit and everything cuz they're not too
thick but the dark nebula you can't see a lot of stars behind them and that is why it is a dark
nebula so we're to look for the lindar nebula so as again I'm saying it is on
the plane of the Milky Way and so um the best time to look at the Milky Way is
the Milky Way season obviously um this is it will be the
brightest during the Milky Way season and um the Milky if you didn't know the
Milky Way season is between February and October so kind of in the summer a
little bit um so right now is a great time for anybody to give you the Milky
Way nebula because it is in the Milky Way season and I have yet to go do that
um I think I might take a trip up to Mount Magazine soon this summer and I'm
actually going back to space camp again this year so it's great uhhuh I'll be
I'm very excited for that I enjoyed it a lot last year and I'll be able to enjoy it a lot this year too and um I had lots
of fun I'm still communicating with the people who I made friends
with and so I finally am getting to my Milky Way poem and so
um I decided to make this poem because obviously our Milky Way my the Milky Way
is my favorite Galaxy just because we live in it and
I think that's kind of cool because um obviously we live in it and um that's
why it's my favorite just because we live in it I mean out of my whole neighborhood my house is a favorite
because I live in it so um so I'm going to go ahead and start
the poem The Milky Way is our home our spaceships will roam the Galaxy we live
in that we love so much I love to keep looking at above at it this galaxy
brings me enjoy all the things in our galaxy in ly way it's truly amazing that
we should celebrate every
day very nice liby thank you very nice
that's great I used to make a bunch of poems and I was little and I I still really enjoy making the poems and I
think that poems are a great way to explain astronomy I have a huge
collection of astronomy books I keep in my my bedroom and anytime my friends come over um David Levy sent me um two
of his uh his books and he sign them and I'll be like look guys the famous
comment discover David leave he signed my book for me and I know I have um David iker's book too and I have I
collect a bunch of them I know I got um I still have a bunch of the books that inspired me about wanting to be in the
space and I remember um one thing that really got me in this space space is this one book about all these girls who
went into space or either helped in space and it was all these girls and they they sh um it was a live story on
each page and it was really cool for me and that got me really interested in space and I keep that collection with
books to me and I told my dad I'm like if there was ever going to be a storm coming to our house that is one of the
number one things I would save my telescopes my books and some more mental
values but those first because um I just think of it so
cool I mean over I started doing um all this over Corona virus which was really
hard for me because it's kind of hard to do Outreach and stuff but you know I still manage and um I know I have still
communicated with my friends from space camp and um I as soon hopefully I'll be
able to host a co- party and I think I might be able to have one of the girls
on who was with me at space camp and um I it was just very inspiring
for me to go to space camp and I saw kids my age who were into there were
even kids who into riding too um I remember I had one girl who was with me
I had two girls with me with me um I didn't really know them till I got there they were just in my little cabin with
me at space camp and um one was very into uh Geographic stuff
and rocks and I know um my friend Gracie uh who was with me at space camp was
very in the Milky Way and stuff and she was also into a nebulas like me and so I
think the Milky Way is very important to all of us and um they even have Adult
Space Camp too um and everything like that and I feel like Milky Way is very
important to us because obviously it is our home but again it is something for us to research and see how even all of
our solar system was created and how every single delicate solar system in
this whole entire galaxy was even created and to look back at science
because I know right now Mass has been looking at Mars and they're looking for water to see if there was ever you know
life that was on Mars and that um there was anything that ever lived there and I
know in like a long long time people are going to be looking back at uh the
future people will be looking at Earth and they'll be like we've got to everybody living on Jupiter and then
we'll be looking at Earth like we got to find water right and looking back at our past
generation like we were the dinosaurs and they'll be like they used to look on these things called phones
and compete computers and communicate over zoom and all the technology we have today yeah you know um Libby I uh I
started study U looking for um Lynn's
dark nebula and this uh that was um cataloged by uh a woman astronomer her
name is Beverly T Lind and she uh she's a professional astronomer she was born
in 1929 uh I believe that she's still living and so um which is great um it
would put her I guess in her 90s at this point so uh or close to it and um uh I'm
going to write to her and uh tell her about your presentation and uh I noticed
that she back in August 16th 1963 that she wrote a short story called The
Littlest astronomer and uh so I'm going to send you the link to that um Libby and uh um hopefully you
enjoy that yeah I feel like uh literature and all that stuff I feel like when you're
writing books and everything it helps share a lot of astronomy because I know a long time ago we were talking about
accessibility because some people aren't able to see and some people have a hard time looking through telescope I know my
mom weirdly it's like hard for her to look in the telescope because of her eye and she can't figure it out and so um
she can still look in the telescope but like she can see it very faintly so um I
see visual astronomy as an extension of you know just basically sharing the
ideas of astronomy because I feel like you can still share the idea of astronomy through just hearing it if you
just read books and you look at things and yes you hear stories from other people and that's why Outreach is
important because I remember I saw you three years before I ever gone into
space and and now I'm in the space and I remember it was
um um Bez aldrin's um birthday and oh I
remember this now yes was telling me to go home and write a card and so I went
home and I started writing the card at my desk and I was like and so I was like
okay this is cute and so I drew a little astronaut by rocket ship on the moon and
I said Happy Birthday and so things with it with my family back then we just
forgot to mail everything and so um it ended up two weeks later me
being like oh wow I should have sent that well it's
never too late Libby so if you want if you want to take a photograph of it send it to me I'll make sure that buzz gets
it yeah um I'll make sure to make a birthday card this year I don't know where that one went yeah um I think it
may have gotten lost but I don't want to turn the house upside down we'll probably create another card create
another one yeah he'll love it so thank you Libby thank you so much thank you
for having me on y it's a pleasure as always it's a it's a pleasure and honor
for us so and I I know that you get uh U people very uh inspired um I think there
was a nice comment here
um let's see it's in the chat here but basically
uh he's um he's saying thank you uh you know you you made an old man uh inspired
again so you know that's that's great you know I love inspiring kids my age
and even older I mean like yeah even older kids like
us it's awesome all right so up next here is John Briggs John is um um
someone that is uh uh legendary in in h Circles of uh of amateur astronomy
antique telescopes instruments of all kinds uh you know I think we could go
probably anywhere in the country and talk about um uh astronomy and
telescopes and just bring barely mention the name John Briggs and people are going to go oh yeah you know he's a
fantastic guy uh he helped me do this or uh you know I admire him so much um he
is uh uh iconic uh in in these circles
and um you know I'm we're very honored to have him on global star parties uh he
is very invol involved right now with the American Association of variable star observers uh which is awesome so uh you
know and it's great to have him apply his focus and his talents uh to share
with us tonight so um I think well I did I solved the problem with the PowerPoint
presentation so I'm GNA let you introduce it John and then we'll run the video okay thank you as always uh Scott
for your very kind words and uh thank everybody everyone for your attention
but I I prepare my little talks ahead of time because often my internet link here in rural New Mexico is lousy so if I can
send the presentation to Scott and let him play it there the chance that you get to see it is better and have you
know a lot of things about what Libby was talking about resonate in interesting ways with my presentation
because as you'll see I'm going to be talking about um things in my library that relate to the
Milky Way But particularly the wonderful heroic astronomer Edward E barard who
studied dark nebuli and uh so we're going to be talking about a fabulous
Atlas that Barner did photographic Atlas uh back starting uh the exposures in
1905 and I'll let the presentation speak for itself before I say too much now um
but I love books too and it can become an obsession I'm afraid I've got a lot
of books then maybe someday I'll talk even more about the rest of the books I've got but in the meantime I'll
talking about some cool books and Barnard and how he relates so much to the Milky Way so Scott let her rip and
thank you very much okay so here we go
um hi everybody it's uh John Briggs speaking to you for magdalina New
Mexico I was happy when I heard the theme this week was the Milky Way we
sure enjoy the Milky Way from New Mexico here we have dark skies and and we don't
take them for granted modern photography allows such
beautiful images of the Milky Way and objects in it when I was a kid it was
actually open star clusters like these MAA 46 and 47 that attracted my
attention using my dad's binoculars it encouraged me to learn the B learn the constellations and and and become
familiar with the night sky back home in Massachusetts the sky was still pretty dark uh where I grew up as a
kid pictures like this have become possible nowadays what an amazing shot
by Bob Fugate my friend in eler he comes and visits my backyard and Records
things like this that the these shots Boggle my
mind I've shown this shot here before but I can't resist showing it again
given our theme the summer Milky Way Rising above the magdalina mountains by
Bob Fugate just
amazing but given today's theme I I knew exactly what I wanted to share with you
this week uh at the astronomical Lum which is a facility I have right on Main
Street in magdalina we have a lot of books as well as a lot of historic
telescopes and there are uh uh nine books uh in this field of view that I
wanted to uh share with you let's take a look the particular ones I want to share
with you are the light brown ones there at an angle but also there are four
volumes kind of a a real dark brown a little bit to their left in the center we'll be talking about those and a few
others as well as I bet some of you recognized the
volumes I want to focus on are atlas of selected regions of the Milky Way by E
barard barard finished his career at yur's observatory in the
1920s but he began as an amateur in in Nashville and discovered comets uh he
went to Lick Observatory and he discovered Ela the fifth satellite of
Jupiter and that gave him uh worldwide uh Fame but he spent the rest of his
life at yurys but then became particularly famous for his Milky Way
Photography and that's what I'd like to call to your attention today
they say there were only about 600 sets of of this work published um my set was
originally owned by the solar astronomer John Evans who was the founding director
of the solar Observatory at Sunspot New Mexico when um when it was begun really
as an outpost of Harvard College Observatory if you open it up you'll see
a beautiful photog of Barnard in his later
years and then the title page a photographic atlas of selected regions
of the Milky Way by Edward Emerson Barnard published in
1927 which was actually after his death he struggled for years trying to make up
his mind the to find the best way to reproduce the glass plate photographs
that he Expo had exposed Ed mainly around 1905 um but it took him the rest of his
life to decide exactly how to print them and distribute them and it wasn't the
work wasn't finished till after his death by uh Frost the director of y's
Observatory and his niece Mary Calbert who is also an astronomer at y's
Observatory this is what it's like in the inside um little over 50
plates in two-page presentations real photographic prints
on the right and on the left a page describing uh what it shows including
information like the celestial coordinates the exact date and the exposure time this one is entitled great
star clouds in Sagittarius now nowadays we can take
images like this uh for granted but back then in
19905 or so um these images were simply
extraordinary and eye openening to astronomers who had never yet seen wide
angle sensitive photography applied to the Milky
Way most of the exposures are for hours or longer and they were recorded with a
10-in aperture uh photographic refractor uh the Optics of which were made by John
Brasher and it was mounted by the famous Warner and suy Company a very heavy
mounting it was transported to Mount Wilson Observatory in
1905 um as an expedition from yur's Observatory where Barnard was based but
from the latitude of Mount Wilson and the clear high high altitude Skies uh
Barnard was able to record revolutionary images especially
of the Southern mil Southern summer Milky Way during his time
there this shot as you can see it's entitled region in Sagittarius north of
the great star Cloud at its recording uh the lagon nebula and the trifid there in
the lower right of the image of course these are just snapshots with my cell phone camera uh of my of of my actual
volume it's really fun to to see the real plates and examine them closely but
at least these snapshots give you some some idea it says here the exposure time
was 4 hours and zero minutes uh July 26th
1905 here's one of the North American nebula and let's see it says the exposure was 4 hours and 20 20 minutes
um this gives you a sense of the image scale of Barnard's setup the glass
plates that he used were on the order of 10 in
square here's what the astrograph looked like at least the mounting still
survives at yur's Observatory and there are plans to uh uh refurbish it one of
these days um this is the observatory Dome at yeres when it was moved for the
expedition to Mount Wilson in 1905 a barard had it set up in a rolloff
roof it was the dark clouds that were especially perplexing
to astronomers including barard himself trying to interpret these dark features
in the Milky Way these are uh particularly uh striking ones aren't
they kind of like a a big vshape across the field of view well these are in the
region of rucus as I'm sure many people will
recognize here's a slightly wider angled uh exposure of the same features
recorded from my own backyard by my friend Robert Fugate and of course Bob
has the advantage of of a a c an electronic detector and camera and
filters able to record uh all colors Barnard's astrograph was uh sensitive
overwhelmingly just to the blue light but it's interesting to compare what one can do now uh to what was so
revolutionary for barard in 1905 here's another exposure by barard
this is a 4our and 30 minute long one it's centered on that same region of
nebulosity including the star anares and the globular
mess4 um Barnard shot doesn't record the um the the orange light very well again
because his his glass plate was sensitive mainly only to
Blue maybe people are not so aware of the second volume in the two-part uh
publication because it just includes uh handdrawn charts and tables but it's uh
real interesting to use with the actual pictures to to interpret
them and that's where picture by picture Barnard and his colleagues at yur's
Observatory identified everything of Interest including a new catalogue of of
dark objects uh Barnard and his colleagues were especially interested in
the strange dark voids in the Milky Way it was hard to say for sure whether they
represented simply an absence of stars or a dark obscuring matter of course it
it was eventually recognized that their dark obscuring matter but it was hard to
decide without additional information which of course eventually
came I have other things in the collection at the astronomical Lum
related to Barnard and I'm I'm very proud and grateful to have them let me share you now these volumes are not
related to astronomy except on the basis of who once owned
them if you open up each one of those little volumes they're signed like this
ee Barnard Vanderbilt University this one September
1884 because you see Barnard grew up in poverty in
Nashville um but as a special student he eventually attended Vanderbilt these
were among his school books when Barner died he donate well his his his family
donated his uh various books either to the yeres library or to the Williams Bay
public library right there in the Little Village near yur's
Observatory but with the passage of decades people forgot how there were
personal barard items right in the stacks at tiny Williams Bay Library that
was the Barrett Memorial Library um but there came to be a
sidewalk book sale of Library discards going back about 15 or nearly 20 years
ago I didn't know about Barnard's books down in the public library and in fact I was off at Apache
point observatory in New Mexico I was still working for yeres at the time but a friend of mine Richard ryer the public
information officer at yeres called me up at Apache point he said hey John I
was out at the sidewalk book sale I found a stack of old books that were
interesting on the sidewalk and I picked them up and many of them were autographed by barard I bought them all
for about 25 cents a piece you want them and I uh I real a back to Richard Riser
Oh by all means please so thanks to Richard ryer I got these uh Barnard
books discarded by the little local library nobody had been interested in
them in a long time too many people had forgotten who Barnard
was sorry that this picture is blurry but what were to me the four most
interesting the four most deep ly moving are shown here you can tell at least
they are kind of tattered and in fact it was a four volume
Bible the cover of each one was embossed like
this and you've got to keep in mind that we're talking about this fellow ee
Barnard who was discover discoverer of the first moon of Jupiter since galile
Leo had discovered the first four I mean Barnard was a really heroic early
American astronomer well Richard ryer um got all four volumes of his Bible too there off
the sidewalk in uh the village of Williams Bay inside the cover of volume one it
says from Fanny D and Austin
Nelson 189 7 so clearly Fanny and Austin Nelson had
given barard this four volume Bible but
of course I wondered who were they well very fortunately um uh William shean had
recently published a biography of Barnard and I owned it I went running to
it and I looked up Fanny and Austin Nelson and it turned out they were both
recorded in there Fanny Nelson was Barnard's Sunday school teacher and
Austin Nelson was the treasurer of the city of Nashville vanny must have thought pretty
highly of ee Barnard uh presenting him with this beautiful
Bible and inside the cover of each one she wrote out
what she considered some especially appropriate transcriptions from the
scriptures inside with the references we don't have time to go to for me to read
them but man how touching what an artifact to have to have saved um
related to Barnard's life and another volume of this
transcription maybe I can read it for for what what soever things were written
a time were written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of
the scriptures might have hope
the well already I fear I've gone way over time and I apologize but if you want to learn more
about Barnard's Alice the Milky Way please note that it has been beautifully scanned by Georgia Tech and there's a
website you can Google it and find this website and look at every image um uh
beautifully reproduced and enjoy it and uh Barnard's a great guy to learn more
about he was a a heroic figure in American
astronomy and I apologize again for going over time uh but thank you so much
as always for your interest and attention
that's it but thank you that's it huh the uh one there's always a silly
mistake for all the nice things you said about me all I'm ever thinking about are
my many silly mistakes as as I was talking about the
signature by Nelson it it was dated
1879 even though as I read it and recorded it for you all I said
1897 so well you know that's dyslexia or
aging or who knows what but what does date to more like
1879 more like uh shortly after when Barnard as a young man or a teenager or
something was in Sunday school so uh any questions uh about
that go on to the next people of course yeah I think that people were more or
less Blown Away by uh by the books and the um you know uh your knowledge of uh
Barnard uh you know I um learned more
about barard from visiting yur's Observatory and he did a lot of work with the recommended refractor um I'm not sure where was the the I couldn't hear the audio myself but
the telescope the the uh camera that telescope where did that reside was that
also at yurys or yes yes the um the the the astrograph was called the Bruce
astrograph oh okay I've heard of that for Catherine Bruce who who uh provided
the funding for it but it's a little confusing because Miss Bruce actually uh
funded uh several astrograph around the world so the one that went to Edward
Barnard was only one of them and the mounting continues to be at yur's
Observatory although the uh most of the original Optics um are scattered
elsewhere uh the 10-in uh lens that took the main images uh actually is in Greece
right now but there's a six and a quarter inch lens um that was piggyback
you know where there were multiple telescopes on one mounting and fortunately the smaller lens survives
there at yeres and there's interest for in the new yores management to resurrect
this instrument simply because it's cool and because um I think uh I think a lot
of people would like to get their hands on this instrument and experience given history yeah it it's just a
beautiful looking instrument overall I'd love to see it in person so maybe it'll happen one day yep all right well John
thank you again for a very very interesting uh presentation and uh uh
honestly I can't wait for the next one I think it's you know I look forward you have so many stories to tell um you know
so and and you tell it so well thank you yep okay so up next uh we go out to Nepal to
deept gam uh deept has been uh uh also
uh telling us poems uh in the last few uh Global star parties which has been
great I think she will not disappoint on on this one uh either but U uh deep te's
presentation of course is what uh this particular Global star party is all about and that's the Milky Way so deep
I'm going to turn it over to you oh am I audible yeah okay so hello everyone and
I'm fromal and I'm today I'm talking about the Milky Way and we are familiar
about Milky Way we all are familiar all over the Milky Way so that's the Milky Way is the Galaxy that includes our
solar systems uh with the name describing the Galaxy appearance from the earth and has a band of light seen
in the night9 sky from from the stars that cannot be individually distinguished by The Naked Eyes as we
have discussed um earlier and the Milky Way is bared spiral galaxy with an
estimated visible diameter of diameter of one lakhs to two lakhs light years
and recent simul simulation suest that a dark matter digs and also containing
some visible star May extend up to a DI of almost 2 million light years and the
Milky Way has several satellite galaxies and is part of the local group of Galaxy
and which from part of the Virgo super cluster which it itself a component of
super clusters and the Milky Way is visible from Earth as has a band of
white lights and some 30° wide or adding the night sky and in night sky observing
all the all the individuals Naked Eyes star in the entire sky are part of the
Milky Way galaxy and the uh Tom Milky Way is limited to the band of light and
the light originate from the accumulation of un unresolved star and
their materials located in the direction of the galactic plane and the Milky Way
contains 100 to 400 billion stars and at least that many planet and exact figure
will depend on Counting the number of very low mass stars which are difficult to detect uh especially at distance of
more than uh 300 light years and from the Sun is a comparision the neighboring
Anda Galaxy containing an estimated one trillion star and the Milky Way make
contain 10 billion white drops of billion neuton stars and 100 Millions
Stellar back holes uh and filling the space within the star is the digs of gas
and dos that's called interstellar medium and the disc has as least a
comparable extent in radius to the star and where is the thickness of the gas lay Rin from the 100 of light years for
the colder gas uh to thousand of Lights here to warmer gas um and here's some
fact over this Milky Way that it is wrapped and it has a hollow but we
cannot see it directly and it has over two billion star and it is really dusty
and grassy and uh it was made from the other galaxies and there is a black hole
at the center of Milky Way and it is almost as old as the universe itself and
this all I have collect about the what the about Milky Way and here's the my
poem about the Galaxy written by the twinkle with the sun and the moon and
planet nine and the star spread like the pig shell where asid and come together
and mat sign it is our beautiful Milky Way galaxy it is the perfect view for
all with star that twinkling in the in in the dark with many asteroid begin
small and M Shinning like a bright spark there's something unique about it it's
the Marvel of God Creations it's the dance of Heaven on natur's weed and a
laor of frustration but due to because this picture Square scene will be full
of DT someday so let's preserve nature as it has been and it's days of kidney
repair and here's anothers that's Cosmic Pleasures her finger dance across the
Milky Way dressing spider Galaxy of Pleasures the serpentine energy Collide
ever tighter within her core until it could contract no more suddenly exploding outward as her body convers a
thousand Sons flower and FedEd in her head as a neutron and proton scap her
part parted lips in a orless cry time stops her body was the universe
sparkling with sub subsid erotic energy and the Blissful Earth Ma of creation
that's all for today thank you beautiful beautiful I'm going to have to get that
that in writing to to share with the audience that's that's very nice DT beautiful
beautiful okay um what inspires you to write to write this kind of poetry
deept um I I used to write yeah I used to write it um since I was childish and
I have already mentioned that I love to write uh literature something story and
recently I have written one story in my own language not about the astronomy but
like uh the uh what the about the life what the hardship of the life and like
uh reciting that the one boy is uh why is uh feelings like he has lots of
problem in the world and is he a man who he have to face all of the problems and
um um and I have seen the story like uh he is talking to the butterfly and
Butterfly explaining that uh you have the uh 90 to 100s year of life and we
have one the one month of life and we enjoy it others and with facing allot of
difficults but though we love we enjoy our every moment so you can do like that
so like that I have written this story so I love to write and when I'm free I
used to write in uh in night especially in night I sit in my balcony and outside
and uh create the poems and just uh being deeply inside about it and next
one well we're all very thankful that you share that with us deept thank you
thank you okay well next um I am going to turn this over to Chuck Allen uh
Chuck will introduce uh Connell Richards who's been on our program once
before thank you Scott and uh listening to DT I have to say Scott thank you for
tying the whole world together uh for astronomers as you have with these Global star Pary it's just an incredible
thing it's it's fun it is it's I I you know it's I think in some ways it's a
it's a selfish thing for me because I am just just beside myself sometimes with
all the wonderful things that are being shared uh by these uh presenters and astronomers of all different ages from
all different backgrounds from all over the world as well as the audience that you know that that whole mixture just uh
I I I would do this every night if I could you just about
do um one of the problems that we've all faced uh in astronomy organizations uh
certainly in North America and probably elsewhere in the world is uh somewhat of an aging problem uh a lot of the amateur
astronomers today are people who grow up in the space age the atomic age space
bace race um and in times when in Suburban areas you could see the sky
before light pollution took over uh so we have to work extra hard now to bring
young people into the Hobby and into the profession as well and Connell Richards
is a young man who came to us wanting to join the astronomical league with a club he formed at Abington Heights High
School in Clark Summit Pennsylvania near Scranton he is a National Honor Society
member and honor student uh who just graduated from uh Abington Heights High
School and he's been president of the Abington Heights High School astronomy club for the last two years and has
joined the astronomical League uh as a a high school society which is just fantastic and he's brought a lot of
astronomy learning to those students and through them to the public in the area uh Connell has created a website with
obser iring guides with links to books and other learning sites uh he's created
social media accounts for special events like the perseverance Landing the common neowise
Apparition um the Jupiter Saturn conjunction last Christmas um the
dimming of Bal juice and so forth and he created a Mars week event for the public as well wrot wrote an article for the
reflector a major two-page article that was just excellent and he's now working with the Royal Astronomical Society of
Canada helping them to develop uh Youth and astronomy there as well as in the
United States he'll be going to Penn State uh majoring I think in aerospace
engineering this fall and he just won the League's horkheimer Smith youth
service award and a $1,700 prize that goes with that so we're really really
pleased to have him helping us and I'll turn it over to Connell well thank you very much chuck
for a wonderful introduction and and thank you Scott as well for inviting me and um inviting me to share your
platform and meet so many wonderful people tonight so I suppose I'll get right into things I'll um grab my
presentation here and uh screen share please let me know if you can see that all
right uh not yet okay I'm loading it
up
and my zoom box all right all good here you go all
good okay just a second I have the zoom bar
down at the bottom with with everybody's faces um yeah these are the the things we
experiment with all right now here we go so good even evening everyone um my name
is Connell Richards as as Chuck pointed out I've just graduated high school from Abington Heights and I've been an
observer for a number of years an enthusiastic amateur astronomer I've had a passion for the subject for a long
time and as Chuck also pointed out it's very important that we share this with people and help bring the Next
Generation into amateur astronomy so of course astronomy has been something
practiced in the world for for thousands of years we've been looking up at the sky and watching the planets and and
watching the constellations earlier this evening we heard many stories about the Milky Way and the mythology that comes
with it and some of the mythology that comes with Mars and Jupiter and all of
the things we've been observing in the night sky and of course the night sky is something shared by all of us it's right
over our heads every night and it's something I think is very important for all of us to look at at least once in a while and appreciate for what it
is oops so starting off with my background in
astronomy I received my first telescope when I was 13 years old in 2016 and I remember it felt like such an
adventure going out into the yard at night and pushing myself to find the most challenging targets I could the
smaller craters on the moon and the smaller features on the planets and the dimmer clusters and galaxies uh whatever
I could push myself to find I remember there was One Summer Night in 2016 and I was really enthusiastic about finding
M13 M57 and alberio because I'd read about them in so many astronomy books and it
seemed like a lot of fun to check those out because they represented different uh objects you could see in the night
sky they were colorful they were large they were exciting and it felt like a challenge then to to find something like
that even though they were brighter compared to some of the things I can observe with 6inch now uh it was a 6inch
newon and you see there but it was so rewarding once I did find those on that summer night and I knew I was hooked
from then and and from when I saw the moon in Jupiter for the first time as well and with that realization that I
was so thrilled by the night sky and everything in it I knew I had to share it with everybody
else so as I was developing my interest in astronomy you can see me there that was the 2017 uh eclipse the Great
American Eclipse so I have a solar filter there and I got some great pictures of the Sun and um especially
when the moon came over and we were in totality you could see prominent is on the side and the wispy Corona extending
far away from the Sun many times its diameter I got some wonderful pictures of that and I was thrilled to share them
with people to show them a little bit what what my perspective of the universe was like and what they could see with
their own eyes so coming now um about the past year or two I founded my own astronomy
club at Abington Heights I really wanted to share it with people I created concept demonstrations and I shared some
of my photography I told stories of my observing and I found um a great message
of Hope for for what Chuck meant by the the sort of graying of astronomy is that people are thrilled by this they want to
know what's in the night sky they're very curious about it and all they need are the resources to learn about it and
the instruments to to observe it for themselves so to encourage people to do that I I spoke um on your platform Scott
just a few months ago in April at the astronomical League live the their their fifth event and then also wrote in uh
the astronomical leagues reflector magazine an article called reaching out to the Future and that detailed many of
my efforts with the Abington Heights High School astronomy club and some of my observing and I'll tell you the story
behind that it was a a really fun and rewarding one when I was founding this club so down at the bottom is a picture
that was one of our recent meetings uh of course this year uh clearly indicated
by all the masks so I'm off to the left there and uh I have some of our members off to the right so I founded the club
in 2019 once I had the idea I could think why didn't this occur to me before I had
this passion I want to share it with everybody and I started off at the beginning of my junior year and got a good two years out of it in spite of the
challenges we faced with covid and virtual learning we were happy to provide uh Outreach materials and
information and resources for observing the night sky to our members uh through a website we created and some social
media as well I'll show you a little bit of that later and just recently um since
January uh I I've been talking to Chuck Allen I had the Good Fortune to meeting him through the astronomical League's
lunar observing program and he's been helping me register our club as an astronomical League member society and
that actually makes us one of only two astronomically Junior Societies in the United States uh these societies being
astronomy clubs composed mainly of young people whether it's at a library or Community Center Center of course in
this case a school who focuses on observing and astronomy education now keeping with our theme
tonight of of Photography in the Milky Way I found astrophotography was really powerful for sharing my passion for the
subject of astronomy with my fellow classmates and my club members so I
shared these through an Instagram account I created I found that we had to go where teenagers and young people were
looking so of course they're all online they're all in social media and and rather than try to chase them down
otherwise I put the information I wanted to share with them um right where they were looking so we found some great
success with our uh Abington Heights page right here that's that's our Instagram page and every once in a while
every week or two I'd post something new um so we talked about Yuri gagarin's First Flight there that was on that
anniversary uh for St Patrick's Day I talked about Lord Ross's telescope in in in Burke Castle in in rural Ireland and
I also talked about the heart Pluto Festival that was I think the second one they did at Lal Observatory recognizing
the anniversary of that um objects Discovery so I'd write a little blurb as
you can see here I'd have a couple of pictures and I'd talk about uh for example M51 here the the warpool Galaxy
um very high up in the spring sky a personal favorite of mine to observe so
I had some sketches also that that you can't see here um that Lord Ross created and and pictures of the telescope and
with each of these posts I was able to communicate some part of uh astronomical
history or some part of physics or some part of um Celestial mechanics and it
was a really fun way to share the information with people and get them learning now on the right here you can
see a picture of my page of my website as you could see it from a phone this was our club website and we had a couple
of different things so this is the astronomical League page you're looking at and I described what what we do as a
member society and and what the league does in their work um but I also had another page called resources on there
where I talked about different magazines and different books and different online websites that I used a lot so for
example I wrote about night watch and backyard astronomers guide us some great books turn left Hood Orion was another
popular one I like to share with people and as I was developing this website as the covid pandemic was
progressing we were coming up to a very favorable opposition of Mars I'm sure many of you remember it in
October and I wanted to think how can I capitalize on this and use and use it to
share Mars with people because it's been a subject of great interest with space flight there and Rovers Landing there
from the US and China recently so I created an event called Mars week and I
created a series of two-minute videos every day for a week talking about some aspect of exploring Mars so we looked at
the geology the climate the history of its exploration I went from persal l and
the canals and Skipper Ali all the way up to our modern understanding of the planet now with with finding water on it
and finding layered Rock and everything like that so people really responded well to that it was fun to create some
videos and post them online along with our social media and along with our website now of course they were
two-minute videos and then you see these posts are short as well so I found short form media like this worked really well
for reaching out to a younger generation and getting them involved in astronomy now my favorite part uh was
the astrophotography uh something I just started on my own it was March we were just out of school and I was looking for
something fun to do so the one night I took my mother's DSLR camera out and I put it on a tripod and I thought let's
just see what happens when I do the longest exposure I remember it was 30 seconds I was pointed straight at Orion
and Kanis major and I I didn't I I had no way of preparing myself for what I
saw when I looked in the viewfinder um or the the image um after
I took it rather it was this beautiful scape of stars and of course it was only my first but that was another passion
that hooked me just like that One Summer Night in 2016 looking at some of the highlights of the summer sky so I got
involved later on throughout 2020 and most of this year as well I've been uh taking pictures at every chance I could
to share online and to share in my club meetings so this was Mercury on November 11th last year transiting the Sun or
maybe it was two years ago Comet Neo eyes famously crossing our skies that was an evening Apparition of it um later
in its passage I got some morning ones as well that people really were thrilled with um a lucky shot of a meteor some
star trails from a local state park uh the Christmas conjunction which I shared
the moon and then um perhaps most excitingly our recent uh partial solar
eclipse that some of us got to see I woke up early and found the nearest Eastern Horizon I could and got that by
uh fastening a solar filter roughly to my my camera and was able to show the moon kind of Crossing in front of the
sun even though it wasn't total um it was really exciting to share that with people and express to them some of the
things that I was seeing and that they could see for themselves I think that was a great draw for bringing people out
and getting them involved and observing as many of us think of it so keeping with the theme of the
Milky Way these were some I got last summer some images um and I told people
that what they would see might look a lot like this if they went out to a rural and dark sky site to observe for
themselves and I said that knowing that you know once I did that and once I went out I was hooked on observing in
astronomy and they would be very passionate about it too I'm sure they would love it so famously we have the
coat hanger cluster here um denb here so we're looking straight into signis the
Great Rift along here which we talked about Barnard earlier he was quite interested in that region of this
guy and then some other pictures from last summer that I found really interested people and got them getting
outside and observing for themselves uh were some parts of the Milky Way this is lower on the southern Horizon from where
I live uh 41 degrees north roughly so this is looking into Sagittarius in the
image on the left you can see Jupiter off there uh the teapot asterism there's the Lagoon nebula the trifid just above
and I think that's the Sagittarius star Cloud if I'm remembering my geography correctly and then I got a nice shot
framed by the trees and once again I was able to tell people all you have to do is go outside and and see these things
for themselves for yourself and you'll be thrilled with it so that was my main
way of sharing my passion so so to to wrap things up and and give things a bottom line when you're focusing on teen
centered Outreach and you're trying to bring young people into the hobby it's absolutely critical that you use social
media and websites I made some YouTube videos myself with the Mars week program
um a lot of these short form media and images and photography all of these things go right into teenagers hands you
know we we talk about them almost jokingly always being on their phones but it's it's right where they are and
it's a great way to access their interest and Peak their curiosity through um maybe it's a picture of an
eclipse or a story of one night you went out observing or a video about exploring Mars they're all great methods for
accessing young people and capturing their interest um and I even had a couple friends tell me you know they
were tuning in tonight so that's great wonderful to be able to reach out through so many methods and I
appreciate the opportunity to do so again so thank you very much Scott thank you Connell that's awesome it's awesome
you're doing a great job uh and you're doing exactly what John Dobson said to do and that is to go to where the people
are you know and uh so um you know for
years and years I had you know worked with u uh various groups and people who
said you know uh you know we don't want to you know we don't want to present
astronomy in in this environment we want to take them way out to where it's dark and and then they can really experience
some stuff but uh uh John Dobson uh of course said no you got to go to where
the people are and so he would go on the street corner in uh Fisherman's Warf in San Francisco with a big uh Newtonian
dobsonian telescopes that he had made and um you know and so it was just that simple
philosophy you know and when it comes to kids of course where they're going to be they're going to be online uh they're
going to be uh you know social media as you say and um uh you know and they want
in bite-sized chunks you know their their world uh you know I I've noticed
you know as many of us have that uh um the amount of information how quickly it
comes in is is much faster than than when you know we when we were your age
Connell I mean the uh you know you could watch a movie with these extra you know
super long scenes with this very long you know several minutes long uh uh
takes in movies and you could sit down and you could listen to lectures for a very long time um and I'm not knocking
uh you know the attention span of of America of of Youth today but it's the
it's simply the amount of information that you've got to digest you know we didn't have that um you know 20 years
ago 30 years ago 40 years ago you know uh now we do and it's it's a it's a fire
hose of information so necessarily you got to get it compact short and um you
because there's so much to to uh to dive into and um I think that you got the
right uh uh formula uh Connell so excellent and I think you're doing great
work and I'm glad that uh um uh that you
were brought uh to uh the global Star Party through the path I think it was um
was it you Chuck that brought him on first I think so yeah I think it was yeah thank you very much Conor that's
great thank you this is John Briggs speaking uh congratulations on on such an articulate
and excellent presentation keep it up thank you very much I appreciate it that means a
lot right okay um okay so up next is
um uh Chuck Chuck Allen again so but it's great uh uh Chuck's uh
programs have I mean he's taken us all into the vast reaches of the universe uh
the biggest the tallest the the most amazing and um uh this presentation I
think will not disappoint so well this this will be this will be short and sweet and um I'm only going to
take you a billion Lighty years out this time a billion okay yeah just a billion so let's share
screen and we'll go up here
okay constellation Virgo going to invite your attention over here right to the
border between Virgo and serpents and right here we have an
object of extreme interest lies very close to M5 a globular cluster in
serpents and uh this object is a Galaxy and it's a moderate challenge in
moderate telescopes like 12in telesc Scopes uh and makes a very interesting photographic Target I'm going to show
you a 30 minute field of view to give you an idea of just how big it is and
it's not very um in fact it's quite small and not very bright at all we'll
talk about that in a minute and I'm going to ask you to note these three stars here actually there are four of
them in a row they're all 13th magnitude this one's about 14 uh so that'll give
you some reference to how faint the Galaxy actually is that we're going to be talking about this galaxy when we
blow it up we find it surrounded by other galaxies in fact it is in the
middle uh this major Galaxy is in the middle of a cluster called AEL
2029 2029 and it's an 8 million Lightyear
wide cluster of hundreds of galaxies it's one of the dens Galaxy clusters
known to exist um and the major Galaxy here picked up the original designation
as a229 dbcg which meant it was in the AEL 2029 cluster and was the brightest
cluster Galaxy and wow was it ever in fact this galaxy uh represents a source
of 26% of the light coming out of this massive cluster wow that's how intense
it is now the behavior of this cluster is really critical um if we were to assume based
on how much light we are receiving from this cluster of galaxies uh what its mass should be we
find that it's not nearly bright enough it's much more massive than the light is letting us note uh it should be four
times brighter so we know that this cluster is a major repository of dark
matter matter uh because of the nature of the movement of these cluster
galaxies they're not flying off they're being held together and it doesn't seem based on the light we're receiving from
it that that should be the case so this is uh a major cluster in terms of
interest in dark matter now looking uh at the Galaxy itself that we're talking
about here it's called ic1 or 1101101 it was discovered by none other
than William hersel 231 years ago uh it was not cataloged however until John
dryer came along and added it to a supplement to the new general catalog called the index catalog or IC catalog
its structure uh was in debate for a while some thought it was lenticular in
nature and I'll show you a lenticular Galaxy these are galaxies that have basically lost their spiral arm
structure and are flattening out somewhat like a plate here would be MC
524 showing you a face on view of a lenticular and here is a maybe more of
an edge on view of NGC 510 which is also
lenticular however lenticulars don't tend to ever get much larger than about
120 million ly years in diameter sort of Milky Way size and this galaxy that
we're talking about tonight is a lot bigger than that um so it's believed to
be in fact elliptical like m87 seen here an elliptical galaxy is shaped a lot
like a rugby ball uh they can be more spherical than this but this particular
Galaxy that we're talking about tonight is believed to have this shape an ellipsoidal
shape uh studies were conducted to try to determine the extent of the Halo of
this galaxy among the uh photographic studies was this one which if you can't
really tell but they started noting Dense Star patterns that extended far
away from the bright Central core of this galaxy they noted that these stars
in the Halo extended more than two million light years in all directions from the core um they also noted that
this galaxy was very yellow it's uh full of high metallicity Stars these are old
Stars it's like a a very elderly Galaxy what's happened is that uh Galaxies have
merged and remerged with it and with each Collision uh gas has been Stripped
Away from the Galaxy leaving only stars and no new stars are being born in this galaxy the only way it can really
survive uh for a lengthy period of time in the future is if it collides with more galaxies and gain some younger
stars in the Chandra study this Halo was detected this Halo is uh
Hot Gas approximately 100 million degrees and it extends get ready for
this distance the width of this Halo is 6 million Lighty years wow um and the
effective radius of uh this particular Galaxy 1101
ic101 is about uh five 250,000 Lightyear
now let me explain what an effective radius is an effective radius is the radius of a galaxy from which or within
which radius uh 50% of the visible light from the Galaxy
emerges that means that the 50% just 50% of the visible light from this galaxy is
emergent from an area with a width of 500,000 light years um absolutely
extraordinary size this is in fact the largest known Galaxy in the observable
universe uh it is estimated to have 100 trillion stars that is roughly 330 stars
for every star in the Milky Way galaxy by comparison this will give you some
idea of how big it is here we have the Milky Way and Andromeda to scale with
ic101 and the Milky Way and uh Andromeda here are set to scale as to their
distance apart as well so you can see oh my God you can see how big it is it's
absolutely extraordinary it's like a universe unto itself exactly and here I'm going to show you that Halo image
this is the Chandra x-ray Halo from ic101 and I'm going to show you how big
the local group would be in comparison to this I'm going to show you the distances between the Milky Way and
Andromeda and the Milky Way in m33 to give you an idea of how big it
is uh it would engulf the entire local group and the core of the Galaxy of 1101
is estimated to be 13,700 light years wide uh that is uh
more than half the distance between the Sun and the center of our own Galaxy so it's the largest known core of any
galaxy known to exist uh absolutely extraordinary in that regard as well
it's also been found to have a super massive black hole at its core uh
detected because of two jets that have been found emanating from it the black hole has got this designation this PKS
designation up here um this black hole has been determined to be at least the
third most massive black hole in existence or known to be in existence
however the range of error on its mass could make it the most uh massive black
hole known in the observable universe even larger than ton
618 uh interestingly the collisions that have occurred and possibly collisions of
galaxies with super massive black holes that eventually merged uh has objected
many stars from the core of the Galaxy the Galaxy is deemed to be light about
500 billion stars that were either de devoured by the black holes or ejected
from the Galaxy by the interaction of the black holes when they merged um to observe this galaxy uh for
The Observers and photographers in our midst uh its magnitude is plus 14.7 um it's a stretch for a 12 in
unless you're in Dark Skies angular size pretty small uh 1.2 minutes by 0.6
minutes uh distance is 1 billion Lighty years and again the number of stars 100
trillion with a Halo radius up to possibly six billion light years in size
here is uh a sketch that I made of this uh using a
12in F10 at 160 power under pretty dark skies uh I'm going to tell you right now
that it wasn't as bright as it looks here uh it it it's it was really a
stretch uh took a lot of uh patience in dark adaptation field movement verted
Vision The Works to get it with the 12 inch however I did have an opportunity to see it through a 36inch F10 at getty
link Observatory and there the uh structure and core of the Galaxy is much
more visible and you can start seeing some of these companions that are tightly packed around it really a
remarkable site and I think they're actually more than that visible at that time but we had to take turns at the
eyepieces for the telescope so uh it might make an interesting photographic Target not
really that difficult certainly a challenge for smaller telescopes probably not for 18 or 20inch dobs
however so if you want to put something on your bucket list that you haven't
seen before why not put the largest known Galaxy in the observable universe on your list and take a crack at it
absolutely fantastic okay it just boggles I mean you know you think of how
big and how vast even our Galaxy is and then you know it's like it's like a pale
blue dot moment okay you see you see this massive huge Galaxy and then that
little scratch okay of light and that's the Milky Way um if that doesn't put
things in perspective I don't know it does so you can you can also hold up a nickel and say that's the orbit of
Neptune on which scale the Milky Way would be the size of North
America yeah and here we are riding on our
little pale blue dot hurdling through space uh on the global star party
so that's cool okay thank you very much Chuck Allen thank you you're welcome and
uh you know again I want to thank the astronomical league for participating in all these programs uh you are often uh
one the presenters and I really I'm very grateful thank you thank you I think
that's my line we're grateful for you Scott Mutual gratefulness here anyhow well that's
great well up next is uh Cameron Gill Gillis Cameron uh started doing a
program called Camron omy his program will Air tomorrow um uh and uh he takes
us on this Voyage of uh you know his personal Sky survey and um he has uh
taken many viewers under his wing to show them how to properly or one way to
catalog uh you know observations of which Cameron does very very well
meticulously and shows us the value of of keeping U careful records of what we
observe so Cameron I'm going to turn it over to you
thanks Scott um yeah so I actually have your your uh audio is very low I'm not
sure why is it very low okay I'm using the headset so let me try
still not getting it okay just give me a minute I'm gonna have to get a plug give
me okay uh Cameron you've got two I see two images one of your background and one
with you with your background could that be part of the problem he's logged in he's logged in to
two separate um I have my phone and I also have my um I also have my PC so
that's the reason why those two two connections do you have a head headset
or something that you're plugged into do I'm gonna do that right now so just give me a second
yeah because the audio just seems a little muffled
yeah the batter is low on these guys Bluetooth guys I've had them on for the
last couple hours so just give me a second here this will be a lot
better can you hear me now it's better it's kind of blasting in and out but
how is that good is that better now way better okay good good all right so um
let's uh start with the presentation first so thanks a lot Scott I think we'
got there we go looks like there's some delays here okay good so let me share my
screen
okay and um so my presentation is actually I I have
quite a bit of material to make up from I missed the last two Global star parties uh I just got uh over overtaken
with work um unfortunately but uh I'm going to make up for it today so I I hope uh everyone doesn't mind I'm going
to take some time got okay got a lot of stuff um I
want to cover and I'm going to start off by um just kind of uh level setting on
on where we're at with the sky survey as Scott mentioned um I I have a program
that I that Scott has helped graciously uh host and and set up um and it's every
Wednesday and what I do is I I'm I basically am going through my
observations I've been making I've been cataloging over the last year I've actually logged almost 3,000 visual
observations um of magnitude everything down to magnitude 13 on my 8 in schmi
cigra and uh and the with the objective of categorizing those on what are
objects that you can see with with um smaller telescopes in more light polluted Skies um and you know so you
don't get frustrated on looking for low surface bright brightness objects that are basically difficult or impossible to
see um so what I've done is I've categorized out of those 3,000 uh I've
increased it now in the last couple of weeks uh to 777 what I call best and brightest so th
those are something that are they have a high enough surface brightness or enough contrast that you can easily see it uh
with an 8 inch um and then and then I'm going to still go back of course and and look with smaller telescopes to follow
up with observations as well um but uh and then I've on the program I share I'm
going through those objects those 777 and I'm starting to follow through
with uh with my observations with capturing them on my smartphone and also with a a recently
acquired Astro Imaging uh rig or setup that I that I've got I have a new astro
Imaging camera so I want to be able I I did the smart phone phone approach because it's uh very accessible to
everyone um and uh it it allows there's some neat things you can do with the
smartphone um that allow me to surprisingly capture a lot of the
observations that I was able to see visually uh in pretty you know in a decent enough um level where it helps
capture what my observation recorded visually um and so I've so far 32 and
I'm doing around I'm doing about basically 10 a week um in the program
and I'm following that through with higher Fidelity if you will high quality asro
Imaging from the new ASI 294 AST
dedicated astronomy camera and and then uh that's allowing me to kind of
gradually comb through and Survey all of these objects and then and then again
follow through so that everyone can start to follow along and and enjoy uh
you know what are the good objects that you can see in different constellations so that's kind of a a snapshot and what
we're going to show you today is uh I have some accommodation since the theme of course is Milky Way I have a I had
some really good nights over the last week um in fact there's going to be another nice one tonight even though the
Moon is pretty much almost full um I you know you can do some neat stuff with a
dedicated astronomy camera and so I was uh starting to uh image and I I'm going
to be sharing uh one Galaxy that's actually in the plane of the close to
the plane of the Galax the Milky Way the fireworks Galaxy and sephus and then um
and then another globular some globular and open clusters that are just outside
the Milky Way plane and then some planetary nebula which are scattered along the galactic
plane uh starting from small to large and then finally some extended
nebula nebula um all that are pretty much right in the galactic plane and
this is all stuff I've I've only just started Astro Imaging so you know it's
it's still very primitive but uh I I think after watching um some of the
programs from the Texas Star Party in the last week and and a lot of the other programs that we've done on the global
star party I would Akin my type of as Imaging more as EAA electronic C
astronomy that is more to enhance um the visual and to capture details that you
could you'd normally need a huge dub in the dark sky to capture but you can actually capture in your back your your
bordal six to bordal eight Skies with a with a reasonable aperture telescope uh
you know even a small telescope um with some filters um so so we're going to go
through some of these objects and just the kind of talk about my my
setup um what I've done is the first setup is my basic you know easy grab and
go uh starting with this a smartphone because I didn't I wasn't able to get an astro Imaging uh dedicated astronomy
camera right away so I had my phone I I had a barlow eyepiece telescope I got this Smartphone
adapter but then I started you know necessity is a mother of innovation so what happens is you started say okay
well how can I take this and set it up and connected over the network over my Wi-Fi network so that I can be inside
and start start doing these imagings which is actually what I've set up so what I've done is I've tethered this uh
my Galaxy S8 um to that and I actually have it over our my local network and
I'm using a team viewer app uh that's uh that's Tethered to my evolution8 and
then I plug in a USB charger to that phone so that it's always staying charged because
when you're using uh the team viewer and the camera app simultaneously it it sucks up a lot of a lot of juice so
basically um what I do is I I connect that and then I also have the the
Celestron um Evolution 8 connected to my wifi also to my home network in station
mode so that I can actually use a tablet with Sky Safari um inside the house and
I don't need to have direct access to the to the to the um to the Mount and I can
control that also in in a comfortable viewing area and this allows me to
really efficiently have a good workflow really focus on observing and and enjoying the objects and really started
categorizing and focusing on uh the details and and having a great uh great workflow so this is this is my first
setup so some of the images you'll see tonight are from this system um and then
recently I've got you know there's a huge step up when you go from smartphone
to Dedicated Astro camera so I did a lot of research watched a lot of uh the show
the shows of the Star Party Global star party and the Scotts programs and Gary and all the all the Masters uh on on
this team and um I started putting together what do I need to kind of get
started um so this is this is what I have as my setup so same telescope same
mount for now um but what I've done is I've leveraged uh i' I've started
because of this remote access I started to say well how can I do this again with my connect my Astro imager to my Wi-Fi
network and then be able to uh again work work inside and and have the same type of workflow as I have with my
smartphone so what I did is I I got the dedicated astronomy camera the 294mc
um and then I got an ASI air which helps uh allow you know do do some stacking
real-time stacking and do some processing in the camera it's not a very powerful U you know processor but at
least it allows me to do some pre-processing um more efficiently and then what I do what I did recently in
the last week um I had an old Wii router because what happens is the ASI air pro
has a really bad uh Wi-Fi chip in it this is basically like a faraday cage this this Shi it's like a shielded box
so you get really crappy um signal and that if you try to do that from inside
the house or even far away you're not you're not going to have a very good experience I I actually ran into serious
buffering issues uh the images wouldn't download and it was just really bad so when you're trying to focus or do like
half a second images and stuff it just it just dies so so what I did is I tethered there's an ethernet port on
this uh there and I tethered that to my left I have a leftover older wifi router
and I just plug that in make sure there's no core drop give it enough slack and then uh and then this uh this
is actually on its own Wi-Fi network dedicated so there's no other traffic on it and then that has these three
antennas has myo so you can actually uh inside the house easily get access
directly to um uh anywhere in the house uh to to be able to access the asio Air
Pro app and it works really fast so with no more buffering wonderful experience so that with this was a real great fix
so anyone who's who's having the same problems this is what you want to do just get a cheap router tether it into
ethernet and then you're you're cooking with gas um and then uh then as far as
my image train uh what I did is to make get kind of a closed system so I can
easily put on my my visual back with a with a diagonal I have an f63 focal
reducer which closes this uh the image train and I have the T adapter I have a filter drawer and I
have two filters matched so that the the op the focus doesn't change when I switch between the IR Cod uh cut and the
uh the UHC so I have a UHC uh I've just recently taken some some of the pictures
you're going to see tonight are with the UHC and then I also have an IR cut to get rid of the infrared but it's a nice
high trans uh transparency or high uh transmission across the the the main
spectrum of all the uh the bands were interested in so this is this is uh what
I have and then another thing I want to highlight is I have actually a SE separ tablet so one tablet is um with the Sky
Safari 6 um Pro and that that allows me to control the mount and the uh the
objects and my my workflow and then the other tabl is connected to the other the
Wi-Fi that's on my um the asir pro which is my Astro Imaging camera and that
allows me to to control the the mount location the telescope um pointing and
at the same time look at the uh look at the uh view through the um the Astro
camera and uh yeah so that's basically that and
um yeah now I'll start showing the pictures but before I do that I actually have it set up so if you if you humor me
for a second I'm GNA test something out here I'm G to walk outside because I
have this set up I actually want to show you some things and the reason why I wanted to do
that is a couple of little tricks that uh that I wanted to tell people people so give me a second
here just want to walk
outside so it's still Twilight here it's kind of like Gary I'm I'm we're in in
Seattle here we're we're at uh 47 degrees north so it it's it's still
light uh out side um still some Twilight so let me see I'm going to share my oh
you can see the darkness Okay this may I'm going to now okay I have video I'm
going to now change my background turn it off one more
background okay there we are so you can see the Twilight still and I'm going to show my I'm going to have
a there's my scope let me just turn on the I have another flashlight so we can we we can
see
things there we go okay so there's
my I don't know if you can see my scope here
oops okay yeah see see the scope so so I have uh there is the Mount so I mounted
the uh ASI uh Pro on the existing dovetail uh clamp
there and um you'll see the ethernet you see the ethernet lights
flashing and that's plugged in to my just kind of my Wi-Fi
router and then I have uh if we go to the back
here this is the image train so what uh one thing I wanted to there's two things
I wanted to show you uh here one is you'll notice that there's a piece of
tape uh right by the um uh the filter
drawer and that's because the m42 to M48 threads uh cause it to freely
rotate and so uh you know as you're moving the scope around this uh this USB
cable starts to tug on the angle and uh that that changes your uh your orientation which is not good so I put a
piece of tape there to prevent that from happening the other thing I want to say is you'll notice the orientation of this
USB um Port is such that I rotated the uh the the
294 so that actually I'm I'm doing it upside down and backwards so when you
actually look through the um uh through the through the SI app and you take the
image it's right side up and left to right proper because uh so that works
out really nice so that saves you a little step in processing um so that was that's the
other thing so let me go now inside just
uh any any questions Scott at this point [Music]
or no just comments that uh you know
they're me just look
here comment of using e ethernet no Wi-fi too too
unreliable agreed yeah what you do need to do is um you can you can kind of do a
high hybrid you can use the Wi-Fi to help you with the uh you know where you don't want to run
long cables um and then you you can you can use uh the ethernet cable where you
can easily get going on here Jeff y's comments he says since cam started I
have learned to observe many times more objects in an evening I imaged over 20
objects one night yeah great cool good okay so now let's
get to the the meat of uh why why we're doing all this um so uh why it's timing
out on me now so um basically uh yeah so this is the first uh this is my
smartphone image of fireworks Galaxy not very hot okay it's not very good but uh
I wanted to just highlight that you can actually pick it out which is pretty amazing uh when you consider um let me
just actually close that
sorry okay now can you see the screen now sorry I was realizing I was blocking the screen yeah no we could see it from
before um so this is the fireworks Galaxy so you can see this very faintly
the the central um Central nucleus and if you look very carefully you can see
some of the Spiral arms um but the main thing is uh you know it's correct because of the visual plat stve you can start to see some of the St Stars this
is with the uh 62° 26 mm ipce and then um it's the maximum I can
do with the smartphone uh on this S8 is 10 seconds at iso800 what I did is this picture here
you see it's very pixelated very noisy I emailed myself at 30% compression and I
Ed PowerPoint to help uh improve and boost the brightness and contrast so you could at least
pick out uh the central nucleus moving along uh this is my ASI 294 picture I
took um last week um very noisy but now you can start to see the um the spiral
structure uh much more clear and um and again I I just I did a high compression
and use PowerPoint to boost it and this is this is this is at Native focal length without the um focal reducer I I
you can see it's high more zoomed in and then I added the focal reducer and then
um you can see little better little bit better uh quality um image and more it
has that very distinct spiral but what's neat about this fireworks Galaxy is
there's a couple of galaxies out there that are in the plane of the milk Milky Way and it's it's really nice to see a rich uh you know field of stars and then
see the uh see a Galaxy kind of nestled in in in the background so
um um now moving on to uh you know famous uh kind of moving into the Milky
Way Area Hercules cluster is M13 and there's also Galaxy so uh NGC 2 6207 in
the same area so I'm going to flip back and forth between this picture here and this picture here and you'll notice this
is with the smartphone so if I flick back and forth you can see M13 uh one
thing you'll notice with smartphone it does very very well because it's it's a CCD it's not a Coss sensor uh it's very
sharp good contrast so this is something I'm going to actually experiment more there's certain objects that actually
come out better uh especially Stellar objects and stars and uh uh they do very
well with a smartphone um and uh whereas uh nebulous
objects and fainter objects uh they're they're harder with the with the smartphone but but uh but you can still
pick out NGC 6207 uh right here right so that that's
kind of nice to be able to you know just as a smartphone you can pick it out and I just put these two fields of view
together so you could see the relative great yeah so that was fun and then um
this is uh with the again with the with the um with the smartphone M14 is a nice
uh cluster um blob cluster with with really nice resolution across and again
nice to be able to resolve All Stars across the uh the face of the uh W
cluster so this is a nice one that little about almost 12th magnitude so
it's pretty faint yes yes yeah this is 12th magnitude 6207 is 12 magnitude yeah
that's right yep and then uh and then if we go to uh
M14 um uh we basically uh this is a nice large globular fluster with a really
good resolution across the um across the base I love the wild duck cluster that's
a beautiful Milky Way object tell I mean and this shows out quite nicely with the
smartphone um again all pictures are maximum 10 seconds um 800 ISO but you
can actually see the different colors of of stars um a little bit the yellow and the blue um coming coming out this with
this image um now we're moving on to planetary
nebula um there's a number of groupings of planetary nebula which are really
wonderful I led to start off the the night uh with these objects as kind of a
benchmark for seeing conditions and that because they're very high surface brightness and um and they're very very
rewarding to to to view so one of them is a blue flash nebula 6905 and um that one uh what this again
with this is with the ASI 294 and when you zoom right in you can
actually see the uh the Central Star very clear and you can see some of the uh uh some of the the structure on the
outer edges the Crescent nebula is an
interesting one this was a nice surprise I mean visually you can barely you can you know you can see some stuff but this
is in really neat shaped nebula and and uh you know you zoom in it has this kind
of double Arc and like a box like structure with kind of reddish very very
neat um
nebula 7008 in signis um really neat double loed uh
structure with Central Star you can start to see some structure
there I wanted to share this one because uh this was with the smartphone uh with my
and I took this a long time ago not a long time ago maybe a couple months ago cats ey nebula in Draco and what I
wanted to show is I wanted to compare it to the the the Hubble image here and
what's what was fascinating when I zoomed in because the smartphone has a very high resolution
CCD um and I was amazed to be able to see this type of structure
you can see the overlapping Rings yeah and and very much mapping to the the the
Hubble um Hubble image here so obviously the Hubble image is far superior but what's amazing is with a smartphone you
can start to see some neat structure in this so that this was a very
rewarding um object I still have to take a picture with the with the 294 um but
uh but but I'll tell you this is that um the 294 is very good for again the pixel
scale is quite a bit larger it's I think it's 2 point or it's four over four Micron pixel size and so you're going to
get you know whereas these guys I I don't know what size Micron but it's very very small um less than a micron I
think for the for the smartphone they're very small CCD sensors so so it gives you very good resolution I'm I'm really
stunned by what you're getting of this nebula with the smartphone I mean it's
just it's amazing right yeah I I was amazed myself I was like huh wow you
know not bad and even some color you know extra color color structure color
yeah yeah now the ring everyone you know this is probably the very first object I
go to every night in the summer um and you know you can even see it in in
Twilight no problem um and then I have a number of images here
first I did it with my S8 my uh smartphone very nice uh you can see the Central Star nice contrast and then I
did some zooming in you can see some of the fainter Stars you can see some color you can see the structure and I put this
Hubble image again as a reference to set kind of look for some of the details right that are within the the nebular
structure and you can see you know the the fainter uh areas here the extended
ears um and then of course on the left is my I 294 this is a stocked image I
started to get a little more interested in uh or get a little more Adept in
seeing how I could reduce the noise do some stretching and stuff and so I ended
up with this image and what what I want the reason why I zoomed in on this is because you can start to see like for
example this little filament here you can see that little filament here you can see this area just above the Central
Star right here it's a little darker right that's that area here um you can see this streak you see this streak so
it's it's really fascinating and even in the smartphone you can start to you can see this little dimple here right you
could see the little dimple there it's kind of neat you know again I'm using
this as EAA it's not I'm not making pretty pictures here uh you know I really I will get there uh I'm kind of
going through a process and I really admire and respect uh the level of you know of of that our our team like people
like Gary and Molly have been able to just awesome but but what's neat is is
you can you know in different stages at different levels of equipment you can actually pick out a lot of the details
um already which is really rewarding discovering it yourself um with with
very modest equipment um then I I took this picture I'm going to
get here but I I love galaxies and I will find galaxies wherever I can find them um and and there's a couple of
galaxies within the field of view of the Ring Nebula and I I I just kinded to
play with this and I I stretched the heck out of this and noise and you know it's not a nice picture but I I'll make
it better in the future but this is a nice little fun one because this uh there's a couple of galaxies very close
by this one is ic2 1296 it's a magnitude 153 Galaxy and I was able you can see
there's a little bit of a fuzz here um and this this little Galaxy is 256
million light years away um this other one PCG 2024
204 a magnitude 17 and a half so you can see it's it's exactly there that's where
it is and it's far far away I can't I don't even know what how far it is but
it's it's further than this than this guy but it's it's off the charts on I'll
have to do some more digging but but then you compare that to within our galaxy of course with we're in the
thousands of light years right so so the Ring Nebula actually what's interesting when I research that they actually don't
know exactly how far it is away because the nebulosity uh distorts the um ability to determine the distance the
exact distance so the range is anywhere from 1410 to 4,100 Lighty years
away now we get to the dumbbell nebula when when Molly uh talked about the dumbbell
nebula that was like totally it was like ah love it yeah the dumbbell really
really nice I love it's said it's it's in such a rich field and it has lots of superimposed stars I just love that and
you can see the central star with a reasonable size telescope and and has a
couple of neat this end Corner star here for example and the nice uh structure
and it's quite large um and even in a rich field telescope like you know this is what are you know
for example in an ed80 what a beautiful object to see because it's big enough that in a really wide field you can
still see it nicely and then it's just surrounded by tons of stars so it's um it's a beauty anyhow this is my
smartphone image of it not bad you know but this is as far as I can push it but
then I mve to the ASI 294 and I was very very happy with the the this is my first
image of the dumbell nebula with the 294 where I was able to apply a combination
of some stacking and some uh some these are all 30 second stocks pictures and do
some stretching and I had when I was a kid uh when I was a teenager I had a big poster on my wall of of M27 and it
looked exactly like this and I was like and I I can't remember what was like
maybe probably the 200 in or the 100 in um scope SC that took it um and you know
it was just as fuzzy as this but I was really I was really happy you can see the football shape right you can see
these extensions here that Molly was talking about yeah obviously you can see the in the nice multicolored cross cross
shape here see the Central Star all the superimposed stars so very very happy
with with that now we're going to move into extended nebula and that's the last last
part um starting with the small so in signis there's this little G sorry
there's little nebula 6857 right in the middle of the Cross um
very intense very bright and um I highly recommend anyone who's looking for
nebula that are pretty easy to spot in smaller telescopes this is a great one it's a very very high surface brightness
small one and so this is this is what it looks like obviously through a through a
imager but um but with a scope you can see it pretty pretty clearly now this is uh then I move to uh
Crescent nebula number two there's actually you you if you recall I I showed a planetary nebula called the
Crescent nebula that was one Crescent nebula this is the this is the more famous Crescent nebula in signis that is
also known as the brain nebula or whatever there's different names for it but with the smartphone pushed as far as
I could stretching like crazy whatever um all I can get is the Starfield so
that is the limitation I didn't have the best nebula filter you you pretty much need a nebular filter to be able to capture
this guy which is what I did and that was 10 seconds ISO 800 which is what I
did with my uh ASI 294 so my first image here I stretched the heck out of it I
took a really long uh two minute um uh exposure and I
I I got this this famous structure and you can see the tendrils very rich
Starfield then I did a I backed it off with the that was with a native focal
length of the full 232 millimeter now I'm at 1280 with the f63 focal reducer
which gives a nicer framing better size and uh yeah pretty
I'm very happy with the uh the structure that you can see I still need to put in like darks and uh I'm not going to
probably end up doing Flats I'm probably going to add some darks to help um do a
better job but um but yeah so this is the uh and then I moved on to
this the uh our most favored and and treasured objects in the center of our
galaxy um we were in that direction in the Sagittarius arm so the tri nebula
really nice because this is a combo nebula it has a reflection you can see the blue here starting to come out you
see the um is it uh Scott is it sharing the
screen yes oh I'm GNA stop sharing I see what
okay good so is it it's showing the uh the trifid nebula now right the trifid yes okay good so um yeah and then it has
uh then has the emission nebula which is the the red part here and then it has of course a dark nebula um blocking it here
so so it's nice to be able to see the uh the structure in that guy and uh for me
it's a little bit tough uh these are only probably about 15 degrees off the Horizon um it's looking through a lot
lot of atmosphere and I I should also mention that all these pictures that you're seeing are taken with a three quter full moon so um in in bort six to
bordal 8 sky so to be able to pick this type of detail um and and picture is
just making me thrilled because even in my 18 inch I could never see anything like this um you know this this is this
is wonderful to be able to do this with modest equipment I think Astro Imaging
and EA has really really taking astronomy to the next level
um then Lagoon nebula of course you got got to do that and and to the discussion
that was earlier um you see the nebulosity extending well beyond I think
Caesar we were talking with Caesar about the extension of nebulos you can start to see it going Beyond if I had a wider
field I'll be able to pick that up a little bit better but very happy with uh with being able to see the structure of
the Lagoon this was my challenge object uh
that the elephant trug nebula oh yeah Libby was talking about it earlier yeah and um there's been many images this is
a great uh challenge of dark nebulosity in uh in SE
cus and you can start what's what's neat here is I was really happy to be able to
pick the outline you can see there's a nice contrast along the the the Border
here of the elephant trunk and then uh and then of course the there's this a
little knot of nebulosity surrounding these two stars again blown out it's not processed
I can work on it but this is just the first snapshot just the fact that I could actually find it and recognize it
and is is is uh is just the first step obviously as I get better with the
techniques and get more familiar with the uh the equipment get proper setup uh
all this will improve in quality but but just to be able to pick it up pick get out was was very hum very
fun Pelican nebula so obviously with a Schmid C green that high focal length you're not
going to get but but you know you're not going to get very wide field I mean my ed80 I'm
looking forward to that I'll that's the perfect objects for those but um just to
just to get into some of the high contrast areas of the Pelican uh like this neck area um you know it's right on
the edge there was a satellite that came through but but you can see the texture of nebulosity you can see this this
bright um border here and of course you can see the the plate the visual plates
all the star patterns so this is the right area and you can see the the red
nebulosity similarly the North American nebula the the Gulf of Mexico region or
sorry I should say the Mexico the Caba Cabos and Lucas or the Baja Peninsula
side right of of that that that is a nice contrast area it's a good area to
to image uh but again zoomed in but but the fact I could pick it up was it was good it was a test the UHC filter with
with a uh with the moon and um you know with a little bit of work I can I can do
a lot better and of course with a Widefield telescope but but it just it was fun and then my my pride and joy I'm
I I'm my favorite nebula that I remember seeing in my 8 in 18in dob Sonia with an
oxygen 3 I would love to look at the the veil nebula just just gorgeous love the
tendrils love the texture um and then to be able to image it I had to do four different images
with my Schmid C and f63 but I was able to put together this
little Mosaic very cool and um and you can see the color I mean y you know it
it's a UHC so it's it's it's not false color this is this is real H you know
it's it's it's not the H palette so you're you're you're seeing you know the Reds and the greens it's it's really B
and I love this this area here this you can see very clearly from the image you
can see the um uh the brighter uh Eastern Eastern Veil is quite a bit
brighter so if anyone who's who's looking for the veil nubula it's easier to find the Western Veil nebula because
it's by the the star here 52 sign signy but um but but if you if you can pan over and
do a little star hop this is the one you should try to find first because this is a higher chance of because it has a
higher contrast if you're in dark enough Skies you or you have an oxygen 3 you can pick out this nice witches broom as
they call it which kind of arcs and then it spreads into two different branches here but uh but again really nice to be
able to use kind of EAA set my you know do a basic set of shots and then I've
zoomed in and this is what it looks like zoomed in and you can see the nice uh nice high
contrast tendrils um the boundaries here the redness the green and then how it
spreads spreads out into two different branches here and then uh and then of course the Eastern Veil nice and
textured and fibery and then of course spreading out into this kind of fork at
the bottom so that's uh that's basically um
that's basically it so I took a lot of time um I I hope I didn't make everyone
fall asleep or for those of you who are not here please watch the replay and hopefully you enjoy it um right but uh
but yeah this is I've made some progress since the last time regarding my Imaging
and I'll get better yeah good done well done to Cameron very well done
yes P how are you I'm fine can you hear me yes we can hear you good because I
have a very trouble with my computer I was trying those I airports hey hello
ceron hellal nice to see you everyone good evening good evening yeah and U I will
make this very short because uh people are going to sleep so um um I have written a short
man man menu Manus okay Milky Way is the topic today and I never seen it because
never seen it I never seen because the milk way is visible here in Stockholm
and Sweden it comes up late July and we don't have any Darkness at
July it's a daylight from from now now on even if we
have us summer Soul things but we got the astronomical
night uh in November okay so I have never seen it
you've never seen it so no that's the that's the one reason why I want to come
to USA yeah and photographic we will we will be doing um a couple of star
parties the the the first one that we'll do uh will be in October at the Yoki Tech
star party and it is spectacularly dark
okay and you can see it you can see the
band I I certainly will be paralyzed when I see it yeah it will it will uh
like multiply my feeling about uh Universe yeah a lot oh I know
it well I know I I can really think about it right now when
it's it's like there and
it's uh it's like an how do you say when you have an Annex of the building yes it
is it's like Annex yes from our home but little bit far away okay so my
topic today uh I have read because I never come remember otherwise I realize
it it space and feel it realizing the space and feel it right feel it inside
you yes and you I more I think it more I will start
to philosophy it what how large is it uh
how should I see the space Not Just 2D
because you don't get the the visual when you're doing
visual which I am going back more and more of the circumstances I have here
for Theo so I have thought about it and why
should I put so much effort so much time to do DSO because I don't have any
possibility is to do that because the All
U light pollution all the
obstacles time darkness and so on so I don't reach them from my pony but I
reach it's Moon and Sun and I reach those Orion Nebula Orion
uh some clusters and uh and so on okay those I I
will keeping on and to keep the keep the feeling up and the heat
on and uh but The Show Must Go On on Theo of course yes so I don't finish
that all so uh what I wish to do someday in my life to have a chat with the real
professional astronomer how they feel when they do their work is that only the word or do
they you know going in going in that in that way we amateur do you know like
feel the heat yeah yeah yeah and uh you
know Pekka it's very individual uh with um researchers some of
them um you know they are my impression anyways I've met a
number of professional researchers some of them are in Rapture over what they're
doing and and fully you know fully understand the magnitude of of their
experience yeah right um uh others are more
clinical you know yeah and uh you know it is about the numbers and the physics
and the math and yeah just do their job right and deliver the figures but I
I think everyone that's involved does see a beauty of the universe whether
they're looking through the lens of mathematics yeah um or through the lens
of yeah an actual lens we I think you you just say it Scott that it's so
individual the feeling and I'm trying to to explain how I
feel and if if it's possible to give somebody else who don't feel it and
doing it so what should you look for because the feeling is there but you
haven't understand it how to look uh that way to whole space and I have found
it and it's it's totally unbelievable yeah you know you're just happy you will
be like and I write down some lines and one one
is when when I often alignment and after
Theus the Target and so on and are stting to
photograph no there will not be no photographing there are just star hopping with my
telescope you know I'm just doing remotely and as I talk with cherry and
uh when we we had some time with Ms yeah and
uh we have planning to take some photos but it was
visually and that gave me that kick to fix my remote Observatory so I can do
visually whenever I want right what how cold it is I can just
go put up my set up and doing it just watch here s it
everywhere let let the mom sing her song okay and I have thought about focusing
on what kind of astronomy and astrophotography uh do I want to do and
that's what I told that DSO is very difficult on the circumstances and the
obstacles for me I have a roof from 40 45° on every on west east and south so
upwards M31 unpossible no
way so uh uh I'm stopping to do that I
can do 50% and concentrate me for that I can 100% sure and that's Moon and
Sun and U well you can spend a whole lifetime just on that I yes I have plans
for that already I have really good plans for that but
before we go from space for my plans there is one thing it's
connecting all of us and do you know spot what that
is what's connecting all of us I will show energy the universe you know I can show you a
picture yeah this this is connecting us
don't you don't you think every did you show the picture yes okay good uh those
machines are connecting us yes everybody has seen and was interesting for 20
years ago of space traveling when the shuttle come but then the government saw
that people are losing their interesting and when they people are in the interesting space the money for NASA is
going down okay with science overall not only NASA not only NASA so there are
more de there and there so NASA get less money okay so my plans for future is to
photograph more planets and do a very large high resolution Mosaic of
moon it will take many years but I will start
first shooting some test shooting and then see what how and when should I
shoot this part of moon and then combining every
Everything uh okay uh what is my dream catch my
deepest deepest uh as graphy uh catch
that is to film an asteroid crash to Moon
surface H to see the dust to see it happen yeah in my movie when I'm
shooting AI movies yeah of course so that is my dream yeah to see it would be
spectacular wouldn't it it would be yeah but that that is my dream so I that why
I'm shooting many movies when I shootting moon it's the whole as long as
I can yeah
and uh let's see I'm going on keeping on with Eda either work I will continue with
with that and as you can hear maybe in news the Swedish Parliament has just
kicked out our Premier Minister from him his work
so he got kicked and now here is a Cris in our
government uh so everything is like I have a political connections already
with one party that are in this light pollution U game right
now MH and then I will start to reach out for young peoples around first
around here in sha where I live and as soon as possible I will announce
that they are very welcome with their parents parents will get some cookies
and coffee or tea meanwhile the kids are going to have a chance to look through
telescopes Oh They'll love that or at my balcony yeah I I have no chance to take
it on the field so I rather take them
two kids four kids at the evening yeah yeah you change lives yeah so they
parents are for their safety so they can see feel safety with the totally foreign
uh people so the parents can take a cup of coffe coffee or I will set some good
astronomy videos on on TV so they can learn something and U that's my future for a couple of
years yeah that's good that's good yeah so I will concentrate what is possible
and not to deal with and be angry and frustrated about oh I can see that and
SLE to other un Target no no then then
look again what can I should right so
just just uh that's time unnecessary time I would
there well I think we alone what's son oh we alone you and me there uh Cameron
is still there um good Chuck and conell
I'm still here yeah they're still there I'm setting up uh I'm setting up for the moon ah good so uh moon is not bad even
if the for Theo shoot bad so Harold lock has been commenting
here uh he went he said I think is when you were showing the image there I said
show it again Harold also says my personal idea is the combo of dark matter and dark energy if the force that
glues us together energetically is the force that um glues
us together energetically um
and arol says the force is like the Jedi um Martin eastburn I think you might be
on the right line Herold my thoughts as well uh hard matter and capacitors that
use uh that use and stir that energy as live Organics
okay book DAV says they do talk about weak forces strong forces Etc binding
the particles together so yeah why not a force
well it's some sort of force isn't it so and Scott I will show you couple of
pictures U because I I forgot the this picture which which I showed
before okay because you P par uh I I should call it P opposite P
because um U let's
see if you think that I am on in the star so this is how I see the space MH
and and it's like what I like to do
is tunnel you know you know when you looking the tunnel yes that feeling and rip off the
whole tunel so you you are using your all
senses when you are taking out your setup so every sense you have must be
activated so that you you can feel it in your you be so happy that you are
like like like a small like a kid baby
yeah you're just King in the in the balcony okay then um there is one
picture I want to share too uh and this is very special picture for me because I
feel it I feel this one uh personally how I feel
the around people around me right now
okay people who love space have brought Minds when you start thinking about
stars galaxies black holes and the size of the universe you find that ego pride
and jealousy make no sense and that's true that's true Harold lock uh made a
comment here he said that staring at stars is healing my body I believe that
at least Harold I would believe I definitely would um agree with that
statement um you you know when we look at the universe we are seeing nature on
the grand scale you know and there have been many many studies of um you know
the uh when people experience uh the natural world and are in tune with that
um and they you know they understand that there's there's uh you know endorphins are released lots of things
that are good for you uh happen and um so it is uh I think it's
important um if you are someone that realizes this that you spend as much
time out under the stars as you can yeah I I believe it's good for you
yeah it heals you absolutely absolutely your mind it gets I wouldn't without astronomy I
wouldn't sit here today and that's uh that's that's
astronom that's a strong statement peka yeah yeah it is but it's true because when last year when I
was uh born again I got a new life
because I was transplantated and I I was so close to to pass away wow and they
have they have to find a new Li for me wow very very
quickly so it was so bad and I get my new liver in February last
year and after that I after three days from hospital I
thought what should I do with this new life yeah what is the most important
thing I like to do with the rest of my life and the astronomy just roll over
me yeah that's it was yeah so this is
the the paycheck and there is one more picture
that describes me and like this before this is very good U picture of me how I
think uh
everything when you love what you have you have everything you need and look the boy he's sitting on a
Shar wheel chair yes and he likes to bike but he has everything already
right so uh
just do what you love and do more of that well if you consider if you
consider that we are made of Stardust yeah and we are on this little blue
planet flying through space we're interacting with all the particles of
our atmosphere and all the things that Keep Us Alive and it's it's countless I mean if you had to make a list of all
the things that are keeping us alive right now it would be a very very long list indeed yeah uh you may not finish
it in your lifetime um you already have everything
you already have everything you know and and so in in in this regard uh you know
I think um I think it's important to look up uh towards the sky and um and is
just to kind of rest in that yeah knowledge charge
charge your right this is what you're I know this is what you're trying to get at back because you when you are looking
in your eyepiece you got the photons on your eye yes and you are ing your
batteries yeah it's contact I mean those photons made in stars and galaxies
long in your Tesla yeah it's not copies those are the real photons actually yes
yes yes chared that's it's like you plugging in your Tesla yes that's right
and you're happy again and you're and you can see the meter okay full charged
okay good well that's great well peka I really hope that um I hope that you can
make it out here to uh the United States and it would be my pleasure to take you to someplace very dark so you could see
the Milky Way yeah that's one of my in my pocket is there is many but I now I
have to begin to sort out which is because I will do exact everything on
that trip to USA Cape caner Houston and mount wison way and I will
will cooperate with you and so on by the way Scott did you read my mail I sent to
you uh about the retailer
Corporation I have to look I see a contest um hold
on but we can't take it afterwards by
messenger it's have nothing to do with stop oh I see I see you sent it yesterday which was just a few hours ago
was yesterday yesterday afternoon uh 8 in the morning here it
was okay so you can say yes or no okay I
will there's there's um uh we can talk about this um but um uh you know there
there's people it won't be me directly involved in it but I will try to help you as much as possible no no I I I I
will do it by myself because I have all the templates and so on I just do the
job and you know copy and paste like so but you know they are your
uh yeah we can take it afterwards okay we'll talk about it afterwards yeah yeah
peka thank you thank you so much thank you so much that's all for me what are we seeing here we got a live live view
of the Moon wow yeah so I wanted to show you guys this is my I I plugged in my um
S8 using team viewer and you see the Finland there yes Absolut absolutely I I
know Helsinki right there no no Helsinki
under uh under um oh down here no no
that's there is little bit down is here
it's on the on the yeah I I don't see the Finland I always still see the rabbit so
I is on the right side in the middle of the
moon right Horizon right Horizon no Horizon you
know with the black on the with the space
space little bit right right right right right right right anymore more more more
more there where you have this small crater yeah no little bit more down
there is two big craters oh these ones and little bit up that that one there is Hing
Helsinki oh ah wow okay so I I let's let's let's let
me show you something okay so this is good so what I'm gonna do is uh I I'm
controlling I'm gonna I can do some panning as well see here so I'm G I can see no rabbit Scot I'm gonna go slower
here just yeah so now but that is like how do
you say uh let see I have to translate what this so
I can change the quality here so I can go uh optimize speed of course makes it
so I can zoom in and out so I can I can you know do this type of thing but you
can see the quality isn't very good so but at least it is good for for mobile phone yeah for for but here here's the
cool part what soon as soon as we get the zoom I can go view optimize
quality and then H it's yeah it's it's low to the Horizon so it's not very good yeah the seeing isn't very good today
but um yeah it's it's it looked better the other day oh
well um can be really really let me Zoom back out again yeah I
have probably have to refocus it but uh but um the main thing is uh we got the
moon it's it's really low to Horizon it's it's I think it's in Sagittarius right now actually
um so from and you're u in uh in Stockholm um where what latitude are you
um 59 North 59 no way yeah that's like close to the
Arctic Circle yeah we have Ice Bears going on the our streets oh wow see
not no that's like my my latitude when I was in
Yellow Knife wow so um and so so oh this is pro mode
yeah so basically yeah I would have liked to get it a better focus because then I can actually we can we can zoom
in to the different regions and get a better better better experience but
um anyhow so that's that's uh this is uh I'm actually inside now I'm using team
viewer and and we can we can uh do the the moon and other other things let me
actually just uh switch to um let me find something
else just for fun um let's go
to go back I'm gonna go and look
for 57
so now it's panning to M57 to the Ring Nebula I don't know if it's going to be
in view but let's let's see obviously I'm going to have to change the iso I'm going to go to
maximum let's go 10 seconds oh there's a star in there that's good yeah that's a good sign and
then we can go let's go ISO
800 okay it looks like we might be a little bit out so I'm going to have to me Zoom back
out and then should be able to be visible even
in real time here let me just uh move around go a little bit
faster
oh there it is I think that's is that
it is that summer triangle or let's take a picture now that's actually let's zoom
in now no that's not it
give me a quick second here I'm going to do a visual plate solve let's do a little star
hop problem is it's not fully uh I don't have it nicely uh aligned it's just
general so by the way Pekka um I I remembered uh
that during um uh a lunar eclipse in in 2019 that an amateur astronomer
had um had photographed a uh impact on the
Moon yes by an asteroid and so that was uh it's it's entirely possible that you
could you could Capture One you know so those pictures in Internet
or yes I I will send you uh a link a link yes I will good because that's that
is something would be okay scientifically
also interesting yes uh from which direction and speed and what how
they are created and so on very
interesting okay the best the best thing for me to do actually at this point is just take a picture because then I can
get a so I'll just take a quick picture
here see what's in
view whoa okay that didn't work out too well let's
try it again let's do a shorter
picture wow that's really nice
but oops oh you see the link there yes yeah wow can you imagine yes is that the
Heat or or the dust the kinetic energy being
released you know it's like a bomb yeah it is Jesus I'm big
yes this must be tens of
kilometers how how much I think it was pretty um you know well studied so ah
okay I have to read more about that
yes this there is a meteor backet on the moon in PH at 38,000 mil hour how many
kilometers they figure out how fast it was going so I was calculating Yer yesterday okay I have to say yesterday
because it's morning here uh because the sun is burning
4.2 billion kilograms of Materia per second per second yeah okay
that makes I took first a just ordinary
car how many cars it burns exactly and one car okay two
metric tons okay mhm and I ended in h i ended to 2.4
million cars jeez okay and then I want to
calculate okay how many houses normally 150 qu quarter uh
meters small houses it burs per second
but I didn't find any uh statistic how many houses we have in Sweden but I
think the because one or one standard house yeah weights about
100 uh tons tons okay
kilograms so you can imagine what kind of amount
of material yeah when I was I mean we were looking at Gary Palmer's uh image of uh
that he processed of of a you know there's a sunspot and yeah and you know
other details on the Sun and you know he he's saying yeah well the the Sunspot
itself you could just toss the earth into it you know yeah many of them many
of at the same time crazy that's crazy because there is no we canot uh because
the dimensions are going too too high yeah
for for us people to understand it's hard it is hard to wrap your mind around
it I remember when I first started doing astronomy I could just absolutely not
even conceive you know no no it's too much it's too much it is because you
have to kind of see it in threedimensional
word yes so you can you can place things
when we see only in two 2D it's it's quite
uh difficult to estimate even distances yes so
uh this is so fun this is so fun yeah I can
see Cameron can I share just one picture here for you for you oh yeah please
please please share yeah check for you so you can you you have to stop first oh
I'm going to sh stop yeah sorry okay
and take a screenshot of this picture I have sent I sent to you now
okay so there is Finland in in your Moon yes okay look at the Moon
now okay and this is Velvet in my in my ey
all right yes yes I cannot see Moon otherwise it's
Finland but in in in real the hand is on other
side your picture is a a mirror
picture oh yeah yeah it is left yeah it is different that's true let I just uh
okay I'm going to get here well gentlemen I think I'm going to
have to call tonight yeah I think that's early morning of appointment at uh it's
1 o'clock now and I have an appointment at 7 so I need to yes need to wrap it up
it was wonderful it was wonderful to have thank youon everybody I think Chuck Allen
Connell you guys are still listening uh thank you thanks for participating uh Connell you're welcome
back anytime uh you know I think that I have um I think you're on the global
Star Party list right now is that right did you get a email I think so I got a couple emails with the schedule and the
login info yeah okay so you're on now so um you know of course the next Global
star party will be next Tuesday it'll be our 52nd Star Party Global star party
and the theme is uh well it's the birthday of George Ellery hail so it
should be a a great um event and um you
know I think i' like to say one word to conell I have a huge respect for
[Music] you and uh if uh I want to turn an extra
son I will choose you thank you very much
so you are doing such a great job thank you very much it means a lot
for me to to do this Outreach and and reach out to so many young people yeah and because you are in that age that you
can reach is more easily to younger people than we older are because they
are just saying to US ah come on Grandpa what are you talking about but
in your age you read little bit little bit easier people in your
age well it's it's for everyone astronomy is for everyone it's yes yes yes but you have easier to reach them
than we older have yes I see what you mean because you
are take talking their language in that way in kind of uh you
know you can choose the words a little bit better than we are maybe I think
so we'll see I I think it's um well I should say this I've heard a lot of
people say that um you know kids today might not be interested in astronomy or they might not have the time and I don't
think either of those things are true I think teenagers have no more no more or less time than they did before and the
astronomy is just as much as it used to be or or interested astronomy is even
bigger now so I think it's only a matter of um capturing an audience where they
are like Scott quoted John Dobson you have to go where the people are that's right in this case that's online and
yeah and this is right to them there no no no nobody else none in the whole
world do like Scot and Explorer scientific do in any way
thank you peka yeah but that's true because by this channel I have all my
contacts and U and friends it's because you and this broadcast that's fine
you've made you've given a lot of people a lot of friendship peka so enjoy your
enthusiasm and your um you know your take on many things and you know we
everybody is so happy for you for winning the um the photo the Astro
photography contest that you won and you know you so you're you're an inspiration
you know and we we knew you know I knew that when you first came on to the
program I realized that you had um you know a brush with uh uh you know
mortality somehow and um you know I I
didn't I did not pry but uh you know I I could tell um from some of the things
that you had mentioned to me uh online and and um you know it's very important
to me that to to hear your perspective on things because um you know you have
uh um you've reset your whole view of uh of
Life yeah I did that is uh you know I mean just think of all the
people who kind of go through life with blinders on yeah just think that you
know they don't see the miracle of every moment of life you know yeah exactly
because if you unlock the doors you realize the beauty of the yeah
not living but life yes and after that you you
TR you it's like
U it's so almost say the word but it's so so
great and this astronomy and my balcony the point where there are no
words but but I I do I do know what what you're what you're thinking of and
getting out and um there is I I I saw a dream
for couple of weeks ago that I had a
possibility to control small water waves in the
Seas okay and there was a guy in in the
Stream that told me that that's we call
trapezing tring that words don't exist oh
but it's uh it's spelled it like t a z PA
a pising p a c k i n
d okay trch pising and so this is a word that came to you in this dream right yes
and and I had the possibility the you know controlling these waves
yeah it's great I love it yeah but no no huge waves but you know
the the small waves yeah small waves make big things happen you know yeah
yeah I write down the in the first in the morning I write down the word and I will use
it in my it sometime yeah some somewhere if I find a newro crater I will we call
it like that okay that's tring great
there yeah wonderful yeah peka thank you thank you very much Cameron you're still
there well I know you're still there I see your beautiful lunar fin right there so Finland fitting uh IM this time I got
it yeah yeah and um we will see Cameron we'll see you tomorrow I guess peka I'll
see you tomorrow as well AB will be um you know our Wednesday show is first
like Chronicles and uh so uh and cam Camron and um so that's all starts at
400 PM Central tomorrow um you know what do you know what day it's tomorrow in
Sweden and Finland and and Scandinavia no what day is it it's Midsummer Eve
Midsummer Eve yes it's an opposite of Christmas oh wow it's a and it's
something that's celebrated yes celebrated and celebrated people are
drinking so much alcohol and they are drowning and they are colliding with their cars and they police are
everywhere on next morning on Friday morning and they have to plow in this
meter and very many have losen their driving license so they
are wow and yeah get an Uber
yeah yeah but I will I will be home and drink my coffee and and watch the show
and do my do my work so on do my
lessons celebrating your own way Pekka so yeah I do I do and that's right now
it's um like dead on either side unfortunately because they have this
uh whole country crisis right now so nothing will be done before they have
find a new primary minister how this country will be
led and we have a k we have this Delta version and we don't know how to handle
them with that and uh yeah these things I got my
two vaccines and with no none effect of
those vaccines so that was pretty bad but I
don't I don't blame I have my stuff I have uh this channel I because I can't
tune this uh my machines can only tune this
channel okay peka thank you so much welcome all right all right we're going
we're going to say good night and uh or good morning uh or good day wherever you
guys are thanks for watching from around the world and um thanks for uh joining
uh astronomers uh here on the global Star Party from around the world too yeah so it's usually be like awesome
yeah thanks care good night good night good night thanks thanks thanks comeon
thanks thanks everybody yeah thanks
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