Global Star Party 108

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um right like no I'll just go outside so that's where the photography all took
off the thing that I learned and I'm I'm grateful for the technology is all the
people that can't get out you know maybe they are taking care of the elderly
parent or you know uh they themselves are disabled or challenged in some way
you know uh or they live just so far away from everybody that they you know
they can go out to the backyard and they probably have dark skies which is cool but you know yeah yeah it's nice well for
our astronomy club for instance um being able to have David join us from
Arizona it's uh it's awesome it's awesome I I hope more of our membership
actually appreciates it because um we had a we had a lot in the was
membership that wanted to be back together and wouldn't join a virtual meeting anymore they wouldn't join until
we got back together and it's like well there's there is an advantage to meeting
online there oh yeah you've got to you've got reach with more people if I if I beg David icker can you give us a
talk on something and Dave actually says yes he can do it from that's the same
location we don't have to fly him out pay his exorbitant fee for uh you know
hotel stay and everything else that he'd be able to demand Scott Carroll if you
came out we can uh yeah
which we did for Kareem uh my good friend gave a talk last night for us but
um we wouldn't have to go through that other expense so you know that's
yeah there's a couple of uh organizations um that I may be hitting all of you all
up for talks but I'll get back with you on that yeah we uh yeah our membership I
think would be it'd be more than an honor to have any of you all speak um David you've spoken for us already
yeah for uh for most of these um low brows wise
um and now the Rask but I think I'll let them I'll let them handle getting talent
for that so with that I'm gonna go on mute because I see it's 703 when this whole thing's supposed to be starting by
now right we are started we are starting oh and there's the right now end of the
hour right there laughs so yeah but it's great to see all of you
guys again and um uh
probably should just go ahead and get started here here we go [Music]
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[Music] about 4 400 light years away in the
constellation sex stands there is an extraordinary binary system that pairs a rapidly spinning neutron star or Pulsar
with a star about one-fifth the mass of the Sun thanks to its rapid rotation and
intense magnetic field the Pulsar produces a strong radio signal which is how astronomers first discovered it
many similar binaries are known what's strange about this one is that sometimes the radio Beacon just disappears then
the system lights up an X-rays and gamma rays here's what researchers think may be
happening the two stars orbit so closely the gas from the sunlight star overflows and a
stream Falls toward the Pulsar but the Pulsar produces an outflow of its own its Spin and magnetic field accelerate
charged particles to near the speed of light creating a high energy wind during the radio phase this Pulsar wind easily
holds back the gas stream now and then and for reasons as yet unknown the
companion stream surges pushing close enough to the Pulsar that it collects into a disc once in the disc the gas
gradually spirals toward the neutron star at an altitude of about 50 miles the gas
chokes off the Pulsar wind unleashing the full torrent of the companion's gas stream
gas reaching closest to the neutron star becomes transformed into dual particle Jets which fire out of the disk in
opposite directions at nearly light speed gamma rays observed by NASA's Fermi satellite may arise along the edge
of the jet while enhanced x-ray emission observed by other spacecraft may come from shock waves rocking the inner
accretion disk eventually and for reasons not understood the companions flow Ebbs the
Pulsar wind again becomes dominant choking off the flow and blowing away the accretion disk the Pulsar flips back
to its radio emitting mode astronomers think this system represents a rare glimpse of a relatively brief
phase Mass transfer from a companion can rejuvenate an Old Slow Pulsar spinning
it up to tens of thousands of RPM we may be seeing a system where this phase is on the verge of ending when it does the
pulsar's wind will erode what's left of its companion until only the Pulsar remains
although astronomers have studied the system in both low and high energy states they haven't yet observed this
transformation in progress now they are watching closely waiting to
document the next dramatic change of this exceptional binary [Music]
Scotty we can't hear you because I got my my lips sealed here are
we speaking at a frequency did you guys get all the hand signals and everything
I said hello this is the 108th Global star party and
uh we're happy to have everyone here um uh we've got a great lineup of
speakers uh you know of course starting out with uh David Levy uh we've got the astronomically with the president Cara
Lords here David eicher will be on uh a lot more to come and I think you're
gonna really enjoy this um the uh the idea of uh the theme of
Stellar winds uh really had me thinking a lot about how we just interact our
solar system interacts with the sun and uh how all these high-speed particles uh
are flowing through our solar system you know at any you know and I I don't
remember the numbers but it's it's incredible speeds and it just makes me think that
um that these uh uh the Stellar winds perhaps
um are you know kind of the life's blood of of our solar system uh and that
um you know that perhaps uh in tight uh you know like the visualization we just
saw uh you know which was an amazing visualization um you know it makes me wonder you know
what that does in its surrounding Stellar neighborhood you know so um I think that uh the study of seller
wins is fascinating and you know so I just wanted to bring some focus on that
um uh the uh 108th Global star party uh
was delayed by one week uh after Thanksgiving people just you know we were still kind of uh getting uh
recuperating a little bit that may happen again after after Christmas so in
the new years so uh it's hard to tell at this point but uh I would I would
predict that that could happen where we'll skip a week but if we do don't worry we'll be back and um but uh so far
I've got the next um Global Star Party cut kind of already uh tentatively planned for next Tuesday
so um so let's uh let's move on uh now to
um David Levy and uh David thanks for coming on to Global Star Party
thank you so much Scotty I've been kind of a little bit lazy lately and I knew
that we had to start party today and about 15 minutes ago I thought
I was watching Matlock on television I thought it's our party
and I ran off and logged in there were two messages from my
Scott and one of them one of them is um
asking me to show this book this is my latest book
flipper Cosmos and children finding the Eureka moment there's kind of a funny
kind of a funny story to this book excuse me I was um
I walked into the East wing of our home one day and there was Wendy reading the
original Clipper that I wrote when I was 10 years old on my mom's old
typewriter and Wendy was concentrating extremely hard on it and she said this is the best
book you've ever done I said I wrote the one I was 10. and he said face closed all your books
since then have gone downhill but this one I want you to rewrite and um
make it into an astronomy theme book and that's what I did and I'm showing you
the cover of it right now and this is a very special copy of it this is Wendy's copy
the book arrived when Wendy I think it was the day before she went into the
hospital for the last time and uh
God I miss Wendy so much I can't tell you how much I miss her but anyway
um I was um
Jesus is very difficult so I took out the alpha copy of the book
and signed it to her she could no longer read but she could examine the covers and she examined
the front cover and then she examined the back cover before she gave the book back to me or
just put it down next to her anyway I put this book up on the mantelpies
and it certainly came in handy because it's the first one I found when I ran in
to get a copy of the booklet uh Scotty just asked me to do
anyway I'm also delighted that Carol Lord is here representing the
astronomical League and uh I know this isn't supposed to be done in
a public forum but Carol I kind of like to go to the Louisiana League meeting next year
I'd be very interested in going there as an arrangement can be made and uh anyway going back to clipper
if any of you would like to buy it you can and they put together is directly
from the publisher and the address is
um Ron J Kramer one word Ron J Kramer
k-r-a-m-e-r at gmail.com and uh so I'm hoping we will be able to
sell some books or if you don't want to do that it will eventually be on Amazon either the
century or the next or in the next millennium or something or whatever I
understand that Dave Iker also has a book for children out and I'm looking
forward to seeing that and uh so we might do quite a bit with children's
books at the next League conference anyway now for the quotation the poem
and that is uh these the theme of this week is Stellar wins
or Sinking as the light wind lives or dies so the poem I've decided to quote from
today is Keats to Autumn where are the songs of spring I where
are they think not of them thou Hast thy music too
while barred clouds Bloom the soft dying day untouched the stubble Plains with
Rosie Hugh then in a willful choir the small gnats mourn among the river solos born alone
for sinking as the light wind lives or dies and full-grown lands allowed leap
from Hillary born educated scene and now is treble soft
redress whistles from a garden craft I'm gathering swallows Twitter in the skies
thank you thank you Scott and back to you thank you very much David that was
beautiful it was beautiful I don't know how I don't know how you are able to uh find
the appropriate poem for each star party but uh you but you do and and we really
appreciate that so thank you very much and if you want you can go back and watch more Matlock
but uh but we got some good speakers okay [Laughter]
all right okay so up next we've got Carol orange uh president of the
astronomical League um I do want to uh you know as as I
often like to do to mention the astronomical league for all the great work that they do for uh you know to
keep that Gateway uh to science open uh they encourage so many people through
all the Outreach programs through their thousands of members now they have a virtual Army of uh of amateur
astronomers out there many of them are Outreach enthusiasts who are introducing
people to the skies for the first time and uh they have a great outreach
program that was developed by my friend Dr Mike Reynolds uh and um so you know
it's something that you can get recognized for through the league but uh
I think what you'll find probably most rewarding is doing the Outreach itself uh it is something I
love to do I find it invigorating uh and
um you know it really I have to say uh you know when things are not right in my
life uh you know if I get out there and do some uh astronomy Outreach work
whether I'm on a street corner or I'm doing Global star party or a number of things that I do
um uh you know I just feel uh you know it's a selfish thing that I do because I
feel energized by it uh it's it's hard to explain sometimes but uh but it makes
me happy uh and especially if I'm engaging with people who are seeing the
moon for the first time or Saturn for the first time and I get to see their uh
their and that Shield that people put up as their persona but you know you get to
see who they are and uh you get to see them explore and you see their minds
turn on and you know it is uh it is an amazing uh moment when they understand
they're standing on a world looking at another world so anyhow I'm going to turn this over to uh
Carol uh thanks again for coming on to Global star party uh the devotion of the
astronomical League to uh present themselves live on our program on their
own program I think is a great dedication and really shows you how far
this all volunteer or almost all volunteer program that is the astronomical League that's over 75 years
old Carol it's all all yours thank you so much Scott and uh thanks beer kind words
uh we really appreciate uh all that you've done for the league as well and David thanks uh for your usual words
of wisdom and that's such a beautiful tribute to Wendy thank you so much Carol sure and now I'm
going to share my screen and we're going to talk about some uh uh some questions
from the last star party as well as Gift To Nuts foreign
most astronomers who are all here understand that we don't want to be looking at the sun uh uh when we're
looking through uh looking at objects uh looking through our telescopes I wish we
could have some sun here in the Midwest we seem to be in a different type of sequence here right now I haven't seen
the sun we'll start briefly today but the predictions are another week at least sucked in
okay you're here so the last star party we had before
Thanksgiving was November 22nd and we had a series of questions there the
three of them question number one a small asteroid hit
Earth on November 21st of this year NASA says meteorites may have been
scattered along the shoreline of watt Lake the correct answer is like Ontario like
Ontario question number two from that last
meeting on December the 8th two days from now Mars
will be at opposition seven days later Mars will make its closest approach to Earth
how close will Mars be to Earth At closest approach the answer is 50.6
million miles or translated to 81.4 million kilometers
okay number three why do the sun and the moon appear
nearly the same size in our sky and the answer is the explanation
although the Sun's diameter is 400 times larger than that of the Moon the sun is
also about 400 times farther away so the solid bone appear nearly the same size
as seen from Earth and we had correct answers submitted by
John Williams Cameron Gillis Josh kobach and Don kneb and several of those names
are familiar they seem to be steady uh viewers on this channel at the winners for November were Adrian
Bradley congratulations Adrian Josh Kovach and John Williams
it's a good going there Adrian but and now the questions for December 6
2022 and our usual method is to send your answers to secretary at
astroleague.org okay question number one who discovered
the four main moons of Jupiter in 1610. who discovered the four main moons of
Jupiter in 1610. and again sent the answers to secretary
at astrolig.org number two
which star is closest to the Sun which star is closest to the Sun
and again send your answers to secretary at astrowleague.org
and finally question number three what is the name of the astronomical League's Imaging
Awards program for adult women and this award is sponsored by explore
scientific and Scott we're very appreciative of that what is the name of the astronomical Lakes Imaging Awards
program for adult women send your answers to secretary at
astrolig.org just a heads up we will be having
astronomical leaked live on December 16th at 7 pm Eastern 6 p.m Central and
our special guest will be Bob King the title of this talk will be embracing
solar cycle 25 the most exciting gears
and also you'll uh have our whole crew from the leak there uh on that program
as well to uh meet everybody across the world and of course Scott and David will also
be with us so we're very regret about that and that's it for right now so back to
you Scott actually if I could just say one thing uh in response to Carol's wonderful
presentation and that is what the sun is once again bursting with activity I counted seven
groups of spots 56 spots all together and 22 prominences a couple of hours ago
wow
now David make your sure you send us some sun toward the Midwest
so we can so we can see all that please I will try my
bestie just make it clear tomorrow night because we have uh an occultation of
Mars by the moon and we kind of want to see that too I don't want to have to drive forward to
it a lot going on right now yeah yeah and I don't hopefully I don't have to drive all the way to where Daniel is
to see that that's an eight-hour drive to New York do what you can do what you can
all right okay well great thank you so much Carol for coming on and uh for the
nice shout out uh for the support but you know it we really feel like it's our responsibility to support a community
that supports us you know so talking earlier about the Outreach effort uh it's so great to see so many now coming
back out of the Skies again we went through a law there that we didn't have much activity but all of a sudden
everybody's back out and I put in just a brief plug here before I go away uh we
had uh a fall astronomy day I was honored to be part of that in Minneapolis here about uh uh a couple of
months ago and it was so refreshing to see the public coming out for an astronomy day so right yeah it's awesome
well great okay so we are we are going
to uh switch to Dave eicher uh of astronomy magazine
uh Dave and I uh got to know each other even better than we knew each other from
before at the starmus event uh so that was that was uh not only fun and
thrilling but it was um you know once once you go to through
starmus I would say that your life is a little bit changed uh there's so much uh
Brilliance in all the people coming together uh as they do at starmus and um
you know to be able to participate uh in that just a little bit was a huge thrill
for me and um so anyways uh but uh David's got a uh a
series of of objects he'll be talking about in Dave's exotic Universe I can't
even pronounce uh the name of uh the next object that's on his list here so
I'm just going to let him do it thanks Dave well thank you Scott thanks for having me again and this is the big
night now we finally arrived here this is very very exciting to me so I'm going
to share my screen and I'm going to see if I can share my PowerPoint and can you see that
and I will see if I can start a slideshow yes this is a big one because we have
finally gotten to Jill buddagian's nebula the nebula with the most unusual
name in the entire sky so this is big it doesn't get any bigger
than this Jill buddagian's nebula it was discovered by The Armenian
astronomer armondial budagian naturally in 1977 and it's a variable
nebula it's it's a very unusual nebula and it's not exactly clear what's going on
with it astrophysically it was demonstrated as a variable nebula by Martin Cohen the UCLA astronomer in
1981. It's associated with an unusual variable star that's called PV cephei it ranges
in magnitude from about 14.6 to 18.1 it's a star that's 1600 light years away
so it's similar in a sense to Hubble's variable nebula and Heinz variable
nebula to much much more uh well-known variable nebulae
and it varies like those nebulae in shape and in brightness with the star's
variability but there's also some other weird stuff going on that we'll get to when we see an image of this region in a
moment here when it was discovered the nebula was a thin ribbon of light and
it's faded and brightened erratically and not really always in correlation
with the star it's currently faded dramatically and it almost disappeared in 2020 and I don't really know what's
going on come with it right now uh I don't have any images of it you know
from the last few months so if you astrophotographers hint hint
um bless you and we love you and please keep sending stuff to the magazine which the readers love but
get out there and shoot some really weird stuff once in a while um you know I know we tend to focus on
the same 100 objects over and over and over but there are hundreds and hundreds
of objects that nobody really is shooting this is one of them so this might be a very interesting
object uh if you have the plate scale to go out and and see if you can record
some images up there's an unusual tie also back to starmus Scott where we were and I didn't
realize this at the time when we were there there was so much else going on but armondial badagian uh who was born
in 1948 he died early this year of all things and he was an astronomer right
there at the observatory where we were at by European Observatory outside of
Yerevan just on the edge of year of in where we held starmus this year so that's an interesting correlation
he died I believe it was in February of this year and and he was really a a guy you know if if you count the universe of
astronomers who are studying strange Stars it's it's not the biggest Universe in the world compared to other research
areas he was a guy who was very interested in Star formation and young stars as well as dark nebulae and
star-forming regions like Bach globules and so on and he wrote more than 90 papers in his career which came to an
end this year so that was an interesting tie into our Armenian experience Scott yes
yes it's it's uh there's all these uh you start to look at a lot of things
that we do there's a lot of uh threads that link one way or another you know
and that shows you how tight the astronomy Community is absolutely absolutely right
um now this is a map showing where Jill buddagian's nebula is it's just a hop
skip and a jump very very close to an object that we talked about a couple of weeks ago the iris nebula insiphius mgc
7023 which is a pretty well known uh object reflection nebula
um and its Associated cluster so it's it's just kind of in the region here very close and and you can see what it
looks like in this sequence this isn't a sequence shot by the British amateur
astronomer Mike Harlow um and this is showing it almost not
exactly but almost once a month for uh about almost nine months here it's not
exactly correlated but you can see this is 2020 the year 2020 a couple of years
ago and you can see that since early in the year the the sort of sliver of light
um is the the nebula and the bright star that's near the center not not super bright but the but the star near the
center at the tip of the nebulosity is the star the weird variable PV cephei so
you can see that toward the end of 2020 uh the nebula essentially disappeared
um and it's not exactly clear why but if you go back a little earlier here
is an image made with a better instrument the Hubble Space Telescope and you can see PV is uh just to the
right of the nebula there and you can see this fan shape that's somewhat reminiscent of Hubble's variable nebulae
nebula and also Heinz variable as well which are both much much brighter of
course than this one but this is another one of these weird variable nebulae and it has some both emission and reflection
qualities in its spectrum and so it's not exactly clear what's going on with
this and and what's happening with it so if you want a weird object to go out and try to record this is one for you and
I'll continue to to present some of these in in the coming weeks as well
so that's it and I just wanted to again plug my distinguished colleague and friend Dr David Levy oh and thank you
Adrian has a live copy of the magazine it's actually out there now uh printed
we our January issue this is commencing our 50th anniversary year for astronomy
magazine which is the largest magazine on the subject in in the world and we have a distinguished uh lead off in this
special package everything you wanted to know about comets but we're afraid to ask well who better to introduce this
whole package in the entire subject of comets to us than David Levy so we're very proud to have a two-page spread
that opens this whole issue is devoted to everything you can imagine about
comets you know great comets and the science of comets observing comets by
Steve O'Meara and imaging comments by Damien Peach and uh the great you know a
sort of a comet Gallery uh the history in lore and Superstition
and so on so it goes on and on and on but how how better to open this whole
thing than to have an essay on what comets really mean to us by David so thank you David for contributing that
wonderful and again thank you so much David I'm uh
I was really honored to write that it's one of the things that I did last uh
during the course earlier this year when um it's also trying to do my best for Wendy
but I'm glad I did it the art the issue is wonderful and David you may want to
talk a little bit about the book the children's book you've done yes and that
also I'm not I'm not con I promise you I'm not conspiring with Dr Levy but but
there is another correlation here because we both have children's books out at the time and this is one that I
uh um worked on with a neighbor of yours now David Michael bakic Who's down
across town from you there uh and this is a child's introduction to space exploration looking ahead at the whole
era of you know obviously you've seen the incredible images from you know the
last few days from the Orion capsulele the Artemis Mission we're we're on our
way back to the Moon we have a new private uh multi-layer uh exploration of
space with all these wealthy guys who have started exploration companies
so there's a whole new era that's coming and kids are very very excited about this can you hear me okay yeah uh
we have somebody with an open mic here so mute yourself if you're not presenting that would be
thank you no problem go ahead David okay um so so anyway this is kind of uh
introducing kids to A Whole New Era of space exploration it's you know before we know it we're going to be looking
forward and talking about exciting things that are happening and not only you know looking back at you know what
we did 50 years ago although there's nothing wrong with that as well so David and I would both be honored if you
bought at least six to eight copies of each event yeah that's right
thank you very very much now and Scott thank you for having me again
and I will come on yeah that's great completely short and and and the
sharing uh and thank you once again Scott and uh we we have some things that
we're chatting about for for the the coming period and and maybe Scott and I will have some exciting things uh after
a few more weeks to announce for what's going to happen in in the future here with some of these crazy activities but
we can't say any more than that or or we would disappear from the planet we're really not quite ready to do that
that's right yeah Men In Black would show up so yeah yes yes well anyhow that's great thank you very
much uh David that's that's wonderful thanks Scott yeah uh up next we were
expecting to have Gary Palmer on uh but I did get a message that he may not be
able to make it and it appears that that is the case so
um Daniel Higgins kindly went to uh uh get uh suited up for uh Gary Palmer's
segment here which we will turn it over to you Daniel now you have some exciting news to share with us
hey how's it going can everybody hear me because I was messing around with Mike I wasn't sure okay cool
I can't hear myself in here so it's kind of things are a little messed up I was not ready to be on but that's okay it's
all good we're here yeah um thank you Scott appreciate it thanks everybody yeah so um for those of you that don't
know me my name is Dan Higgins and I think everybody almost knows me here and I run a small uh YouTube channel called
the AstroWorld TV and we do pretty much it's basically astrophotography Outreach and we do uh
um beginners nights on Friday nights and we do kind of a techie with a lot of guests on Wednesday nights
um Scott's been on the show uh Jordan Nielsen um Adrian has been on the show Max he
has been on the show a bunch of people a lot of YouTubers have out there have been on the show and uh so what I
decided to do to my detriment and the legendary and uh and um a lot of stress
um have decided to put together something called astral palooza which is going on this Saturday
um was it the 10th um and it's an eight hour streaming
event on YouTube uh yeah yeah uh it was supposed a long time it was supposed to
be two to three and then the the response from from people in the
astrophotography community has been so overwhelming I just kept on saying yeah come on the show come on the show and
now it's eight hours and I'm ready to go jump off a bridge somewhere but uh
um so let me let me share my uh screen real quick for you because I don't want to take up a lot of time here I just
want to show everybody what it's all about um it's okay no it's okay it's okay but um
22 is coming up like I said from 2 P.M to 10 pm Eastern only on YouTube
um go to www.astrowworldweb.com and you go to
Astra palooza site and you can buy your nothing okay torture there you go
um so the proceeds for all the tour shirts um you register your astronomy club with
me and all the proceeds all the benefits from this t-shirt are going to go to a
donation to whatever Club goes on wins on our magic Spinning Wheel that we do
every week we got about 30 different clubs right now that it's going to go to we've only sold about 10 or 12 shirts so
far uh but maybe a couple hundred bucks we'll go to a uh uh an astronomy
Community we've already done one uh 100 check to a local astronomy Community
which is really nice and we're also doing another uh fundraiser coming up soon more on that later
um but the torture it also has all the guests on the back so they're all the guests right now and I just added one
more um Adam black Charles Brack and Nico Carver erniejacobs Josh Kovach who is in
the list of people who won the last questions before he's going to be on uh Amy Astro all the masses of picks
Insight Sean Nielsen Dr Christian Seth and Molly Wakeling all of them are going to be coming on doing some sort of
presentation throughout the day um on top of that it looks like Prima luche lad might make him a Filippo might
make a uh might make a jump in so from Italy so uh that that's gonna be a lot
of fun from that so let's we'll see what happens it may or may that may or may not happen but uh we're hoping it does
he's traveling around but that's Astra palooza and that again is going on uh
this uh this Saturday from 2 P.M to um the 10 pm Eastern so
um that's uh that's about it and and they they go on your website to buy tickets
or how no no there's no tickets you just no tickets no tickets this is a totally
just jump on you know we're expecting like a whole 27 people to be on and okay
wow no just kidding okay we're actually expecting a lot of people on so I I
actually put an email out to 265 uh Astro uh groups that I found off
night sky Network got a lot of response from that there you go I sent it out to all my members well yeah I sent it out
to not only the uh you you caught my uh president one of my astronomy clubs and
I just always wanted to redirected it to the right the others
yeah so I saw it and I told and I had a couple people that were really
interested I got to actually go back and respond to them because I I saw them respond to my emails so you'll have a
few more people um I'm super excited so I mean we even got uh uh somebody who's on here quite a
bit and uh friends of everybody here uh Kareem Trapper um yeah uh he uh got all of the Rask he
emailed me uh he emailed me about a week ago and uh he's like oh yeah we're gonna
send it all out it's gonna be great so um I'm expecting a long day uh but you know what I think it's going to be
informative I think it's going to be great as long as you don't have some of the lovely astral World glitches that we
that happen every week um we'll be okay those things happen it's the New York air
from time to time but it gives back on track and uh yeah or we could blame
Chicago tell Ernie I've got a Jordan Chicago White Sox shirt or a jersey that
I might be willing to sell for a price so uh oh my God I might I might come
troll them and send them a picture of that Jersey but uh that's awesome looking forward to it I plan to drop in
a few times throughout the day and yeah no Hey listen the only person I expect
to be there for the full eight hours is me I mean you know all all the uh all the other people out there that are
doing you know are jumping in jumping out you know go eat go whatever it just happens to be the day of of my Astro
club's Christmas party and I'm not gonna make that but but well you got something
you got some Outreach going I think we'll I think you'll be forgiven if yeah can't go sing at the Christmas party no
no drinking a lot of coffee yeah nobody wants to hear me sing anyway so it's just you know yeah I think we went
through that the last time I think the last time we went through that we were like yeah I remember you
said that but uh well well if you're really lucky and this is some really new news here this is this is news within
the last couple weeks I don't even Scott I don't even think I told you yet but if you want to hear me sing
and you want to see maybe one or two of the other astral World guys thing Vietnamese
this year because after worlds had their own table at Neath this year
great great well I'll be there so I know you will
Daniel one thing I would like to say for an astropalooza is that it signifies
the reach of astronomy especially amateur astronomy worldwide it goes into
everything and I really wish you the best Daniel the things that I got a personal note on
that is that in the last couple of months going out to observe either alone or
with friends is like taking an enormous tranquilizer the size of this room and
it has no side effects it makes me feel so much better and I feel so good I
always feel good when I look up at the sky I think everyone here
Daniel are you coming to the winter Star Party it's it's on my calendar I am registered
okay I'm I'm it really depends on how much equipment
I could get on that with um no so that matters if I'm going to be on a plane or on the Auto Train so I
might be on the Auto Train coming down from Washington um and uh then uh drive the rest away
from I think it's uh Orlando I think somewhere around there it stops um and then drive to the keys the seven
or eight hours down there to get there uh well we can set you up right next to Scott if you want
you don't know me but you know I know you but I mean a lot of other people I know know you
um a couple of people from uh the amateur Observer Society of New York actually had the pleasure of I believe staying at your house a couple years
back uh Susan Rose and Dennis Wilde and and uh and uh I just want to say uh from
me and from them um you know my condolences on uh on your loss and uh I'm so sorry to hear about what happened
thank you so much no problem but um anyway that that's all I have to
say I don't want to take up any more time but uh come on down natural loser hang out even it's for a couple of minutes and buy a t-shirt make it make a
thing for uh for a local astronomy club somewhere that's right that's right yeah well great we wish you all the best uh
Daniel on a successful event I know it will be one thank you Scott I appreciate it thanks for the opportunity yeah we
have a nice lineup of people watching us uh uh from around the globe here uh uh
regulars like uh tarek uh Tarak is watching from uh UAE UAE that's right
Mike overacker Norm Hughes osmosis007 is watching uh yeah maybe
he's going to be the next James Bond we don't know um we've got uh Harold lock watching uh
and um who else Keith
Keith Keith Keith Keith Keith Keith Keith Keith I just saw it Go by here anyways Keith and um
uh lots of others here so Dustin Gibson's watching uh from opt
um and uh we thank you all for tuning in to the 108th Global star party uh
Beatrice Hines from Belgium there's she says just just tuned in so
um up next uh we're going from Astro palooza to
the winter star party and so up next is Russ brick of the Southern Cross
Astronomical Society Russ thanks for coming on oh thanks Scott thanks for having me
well I like the background there it's just I was gonna say as you can see I'm broadcasting live from the wintertime
but this is about what you'll see when you're camped out in front of the property yeah that's right that's right
so um uh Russ give us some history of the winter star party uh you know there's
there's new people that are on that don't know about winter star party I know it's on a lot of people's bucket
list so let's talk about the history a little bit and then why you want to go
to uh the uh you know go to this amazing event
well um this will be the 39th Annual winter Star Party
um we actually got interrupted last year we weren't able to hold anything at all but
this will be the 39th Star Party it was started by Southern Cross Astronomical
Society and Tippy dioria um you know Tippy had recently passed um
Scott I'm sure you know oh yes and um what an icon of uh the hobby for sure
oh yeah he's a great guy yeah I have a lot of good memories of being down on
the field with him me too observing me too he was an observer too he wasn't really a photographer
that's right but um the part the store party actually really started out in uh
mahogany hammock and it's funny they used to have to break down there every day
and then reassemble again in the early years I think they were there for three
years and then they finally found uh camp wassumki
and ever since the hurricane uh six five years ago I guess when the camp got
completely wiped out we've been using Camp Sawyer as well and it really turns out to be a nice uh
environment because the Girl Scout camp is now completely rustic camping
and the boy scout camp is where the facilities are and it's on the West End you just walk
through a little pass there's no vehicle traffic to go to the showers and it's a very very nice shower facility 10
showers and 10 bathrooms run by the Boy Scouts yeah
actually it's a very nice facility uh you know you don't have to wait for
showers typically um uh there's there's gonna be one or two of them open and um you know it's uh
it's wonderful to be out there in that leather you know it's so cold and much
of the rest of the country to come down there and it's like 79 80 degrees you
know nice breeze Blowing by um guys your friends there with all their telescope gear you know so these
guys are crystal clear um it's just it's really amazing to be
down there and the real big draw is of course the Florida keys but being able
to see the southern objects too like Etta Carina and um Omega Centauri when I step out of my
tent at 11 o'clock at night a mega Centauri is blam right there right in
front of me it's like a flashlight shining out at me yes that's right that's it's really awesome yes that's
true that's true and so what can people expect to see I mean if you're a visual Observer you're pretty far south
what are some of the things that a lot of people in the northern hemisphere don't see well they're not going to see
Omega sensory they're probably not going to see uh
the Galaxy right above it um yeah I can't think of it yeah Centaurus
say I'm sorry right um Anna Karina the jewel box nebula
um all those things the Southern Cross for one which is the namesake of our club uh the entire Southern Cross rises above
I guess about three degrees above the horizon it's really it's really picturesque so
you just missed the magellanic clouds then yeah you don't get to see it just miss him yeah yeah that's the section
that actually goes into Orion beyond that but um
yeah but that that's still a great number of things that you normally wouldn't see in my latitude in Michigan
so that's it's the huge draw plus
ecliptic is pretty good there um a lot of times you'll have Jupiter right overhead Saturn will usually be a
little you know a little lower in the sky but um we get fully uh usually this time
of year the biggest draw is the Orion area and that whole complex there
because it's right overhead most of the night that sounds cool that's cool it is cool
it's just got a great Vibe the whole thing you know I mean you can sit there and just uh uh get get relaxed in a lawn
chair and just look up with binoculars uh uh you know you're you can walk
through the telescope field and look through giant dobsonians that you know amazing objects up in the sky uh
incredible astrophotographies being done at the start party oh yeah oh yeah
um we have a good lineup of speakers this year um speaking of astrophotography I mean
Richard Wright is one of our speakers okay uh I hope he gets on the photographer a future of
astrophotography and you know I'm not going to give a Shameless plug for his software but you know that we all use it
um Charlie Warren will be there to give a talk uh the Zen and art of astronomical Pursuit
Peggy Walker and Rick they'll both be there talking about the astronomical League
um Jeffrey quarter I came in on the very end when uh Mr
Levy was talking about some sunspots he's going to do a talk on processing hydrogen Alpha solar images and I'm
really interested to see that one absolutely like Lockwood he talks he'll
talk about his talks kind of funny it's like what the heck is an interfere almond way and um
it's it's going to be a great talk absolutely have no fear of the interferometer right
um as Scott was saying we get a lot of really large dobsonians down there
28s 30s 32 right that's right um it's really blows my mind sometimes
when I climb top up to the top of that ladder and you look at Saturn and it almost looks like a photograph yeah yeah
that's right yeah absolutely seeing conditions at winter Star Party are legendary I think that often they get
down to one Arc second or better seeing um because there's just no well there's
no mountains or Hills or anything to kind of uh disrupt that airflow as it's
coming off the ocean nope it's beautiful down there I mean
it's and when you look East yeah you really don't well you see the light Dome
from Marathon but it's not intrusive at all right and then when the you know
when everything's coming overhead and you look South it's just Inky black out
over the ocean yeah there's nothing out there that's right that's right I was
wondering if you had had some if you had somebody take an sqml meter and fire it
at some of the different parts like fire it out over that uh over the uh water
and fire it straight up into the sky see what readings you were getting I'm guessing you're gonna be somewhere in
the high 21.78
yeah you're sitting bortle too pretty good there oh yeah this guy is
very crisp too the planetary observing is just it's the best it really is these
guys are super steady you know and the other thing that's cool about winter star part is it's so close
to Key West so you've got great restaurants uh you got stuff to do during the day
um you know uh on more than one occasion you know we we were able to run out to
Key West or Marathon uh for that matter and have some great dinners I mean it's just uh a lot of marathon and go to Keys
Fisheries yeah I suppose unbelievable lobster macaroni and cheese
never gonna have it's just unbelievable and they have something called uh they
said they they call it a keezy feeling and I didn't know what they meant about that until I went to the keys my first
time and this has been like I don't know 20 years ago or so maybe even more than that and it's just like you just kind of
slow down and you just feel a lot more relaxed you know you get maybe maybe get a little uh
uh you know as you're setting up or something like that you go through that setup angst a little bit but once you're
set up and you got your stuff all arranged and everything and your kick back and and Your Friends start showing
up around you uh and the friendly staff of the winter star party is amazing you
know uh you know and and uh you know it's just um it's a must do you know a
lot of people say yeah that's on my bucket list well uh you should definitely make it because uh you know
these guys have put in a lot of hard work for many years okay and uh so you
know definitely something that you want to uh support and if I might say
um if there's anyone out there who's interested in coming to the winter star party as a vendor you can reach out to
me at wsp at scaz.org that's wsp at scas.org
and I put that into the live chat okay so and our website to register for the
star party would be www.scas.org
gotcha okay sign up and um uh and we'll see you
there so Russ thanks very much for coming on uh uh and uh maybe we'll get
you one more time before uh when a star party kicks off so that would be great Scott thank you very much I appreciate
it yeah and uh let's give them the dates again for winter Star Party okay February 13th through February 19th
there we go okay that's it all right everybody thanks very much we hope to see you down in
South Florida drive safe yep okay uh everyone so we're
gonna take a uh break here and come back with more uh great talks on global Star
Party
thanks again Russ that that does sound really really good
um I'm telling you yeah there's a region of the Milky Way that
um I'd be able to get um I'm doing a presentation on four regions
that you see in the northern um the northern side of the globe and it
looks like that region you can see I would consider a fifth and the magellanic cloud section leading to
Orion would probably be a sixth region um so yeah that that may become my mission
to image all six and do those mosaics you see people do where
they put it all together and you get the you basically get spread out the entire
part of the galactic center and the big arms that we can see
well if you're an imager then the skies at the winter Star Party are a place you
want to be but if you're a visual Observer too I'm telling you it's outstanding yeah probably cataloged over
a thousand galaxies myself and oh wow yeah Leo engagement just sit there all
night long and just bang out galaxies from my computer we were doing that
um at Okie text um similar similar type of Sky you know where it
starts to turn gray gray as it gets that dark and um you know you can see it
definitely you can see a definite uh dustling the rift that goes through the
galactic arm and um yeah it's not it sounds exciting because those are some of the objects that have
been on my uh bucket list to see along with the uh you know of course the
magellanic clouds I think are on everyone's bucket list if you're free yeah I'd love to see those myself yeah
but uh but yeah you provide a way to see all of that without requiring a passport
which is actually a good thing yeah um that's yeah definitely worth
considering I see I'm on the website and I see some of the pictures people have taken and
um it's a that would be a good vacation for me to take in February
um I'm telling you and you know what um you can't do it now because there's um an extra there was
damage to the island but you can go to Key West and you take a day trip to the Dry Tortugas and the boat won't leave
until after Dark um you can actually get a permit to Camp there and you'll see the magellanic cloud from
there Okay so okay so you could take a boat down to
wow I did not realize that that's cool yeah yeah is that something they're
trying to bring back or is that something you can do now well there's a national park out there
Dry Tortugas National Park it's an Old Fort okay and um you can apply for a permit
to Camp you have to bring in everything you have to take out everything as well I mean there's no facilities there at
all and so it's Rustica wild it's wide open yeah it's Wild Oak but it's also
about I'm gonna say 50 on you know I don't even know how
much farther south I know it's a couple of degrees okay for sure
I don't know exactly how many miles it is now okay that puts you just in range of the
magellanic clouds which is kind of the last South that's it and you got
sorry about that and from there you've basically got the section leading to Orion
and that's the whole milk that's the entire Milky Way at that point so that's uh yeah that sounds um
if well I did apply for a passport because uh Maxi Polaris and the
Argentina contingent have invited me to fly down there at some point but um you know
getting down there getting down there might not be the easiest to do
but um that sounds like a very workable option um
come down there take that boat and you know get down to that Island a couple of
days just bring enough rations for a couple of days and make sure maybe check
the weather to make sure I'm gonna go when if it's cloudy on the horizon that's not going to work
we've been threatening to rent a boat load all our gear on it go out there and
stay for the weekend but like I said we've been threatening yeah
definitely take some planning to pull it off for real because you gotta yeah yeah you gotta figure out what you're gonna
do for regular human regular human needs you got to bring the uh
refrigerator full of goodies for uh two or three days yeah you mean the ice chest
yeah a couple but I know that sounds really good well
I said you were on our website register come on down we'll be glad to have you all right
definitely make a Make a Better Effort to add that to my um time budget as I like to call
it I think it's worth investing in yeah you wouldn't be sorry unless of
course it rained yeah well even if it does it rained a little bit at Okie text
and brought humidity so it changed the sky from that gray that you know you get
when you're in a dryer you know it then it changed the color of the sky to more
of more of an Inky blue black right and we were like yeah we just brought the uh
we just brought the Michigan Skies with us to Okie text still see more stuff there than you know
so much I was talking to a friend of mine um you know do you know Greg Bragg from
Celestron uh I've heard the name I think he was was he there he might have yeah he was there yeah these guys were
amazing and I gotta I gotta go check that one out yeah so you're it's gonna look
similar there may be a slightly different color I know you're over water over here
but um you know in the skies but you you told me what those sqm meters that's you
know sqm meters at oakie Texas um 21.95 21 point you know sometimes it
actually hits a 21.99 never seen it hit 22 though so it's uh you know the scale
these days excuse me the scale these days decides that that's high portal too yeah well that's what we're at you know
2190s yeah that's it's gonna be amazing either way
so that's no that's something to look forward to so how do you get on this chat here
that's on my screen right now oh that these are folks that are so they're they're at the YouTube uh
steering oh okay they're listening to me I didn't want this person to think that the magellanic clouds were visible for
the keys because they're not oh they're not okay yeah so that's all
the way that's actually all the way down in the Dry Tortugas it's a lot further south it's a few degrees further south
yeah they can hear us uh but they can oh yeah so he just heard you tell them that
they're not visible from the Florida keys so just yeah I mean
I would be down there every other weekend [Laughter]
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God you remember Steve Van rein who Eve van Ryan he's one of my members
who's always at the start of my size space again I would recognize him he actually has a bona fide real copy of
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I see a lot of questions on quora have you ever seen that site
no people ask questions there and um supposedly qualified
people answer the questions there were a lot of people that were
saying that uh they didn't understand why it took so long for Artemis to go to the moon when
you know all the Apollo missions were there in three days and um nobody really you know somebody
came on and explained about you know how how many orbits there were you know how
it was a slow approach and everything like that so right right
well uh yeah hopefully you guys uh enjoyed that uh you know thanks to the
European Space Agency for putting that together a lot of the video clips that you guys see on Gold Star Party are from
NASA uh they're also from Goddard space flight center uh you know the people
that also the the the teams that do the visualizations for Mars rovers and stuff
like that there's just a wealth of information that's out there so if you're looking for uh videos for your
astronomy club meetings or special groups or classrooms or anything like that there's tons of stuff that's
royalty free I mean they want you to stream it they want you to get it out there it's educational material uh that
helps these organizations uh survive uh
to a large part because they're getting public support and so and that's very
important um up next is uh Molly Wakeling Molly
runs a series called uh astronomaly's uh universe or just astronomally and uh uh
she is really fantastic she gives us the science behind images that she takes
from her own backyard um and uh you know she often mixes in
information about how she's processed the image how she's acquired that image uh and then what's going on you know so
I think that that's very very cool uh it's a like a an amazing lesson plan
that she does in 15 or 20 minutes so uh Molly thanks for coming on to Global
star party yeah thanks for having me back always all right I'll go ahead and share my
share my screen here excuse me uh all right that should be coming
through let me get this to there we go okay
um yeah so I on the theme of Stellar wins I was thinking about some nebuli
that well pretty much all the nebulae that we see have been in some way shaped
by stars and they're hot Stellar wins especially the young hot newborn stars
in these nebulae there's a whole bunch that I could have talked about some some have already talked about before like the crescent nebula
um which is a great example of how Stellar winds are creating a um really cool looking nebula but I decided to
talk about the Eagle Nebula because I was ahead and talk talked about it yet and it's gorgeous and also James Webb
recently put out a new picture of it so I figured I'd go ahead and talk about it tonight
so the Eagle Nebula is more is also known as Messier 16 although it's not
the nebula itself that Charles Messier observed he saw the cluster of stars and
uh they actually really belongs to cluster of stars but it's um also now referred to as the whole nebula it is a
large emission nebula and uh um the Sagittarius region of the Milky Way one
of the summer highlights for sure and uh it's all a lot like all of these large
emissions nebula it's a stellar Nursery there's a lot of hot young newborn Stars
here uh the picture in the background is the one of the older Hubble images of it
that really put the Eagle Nebula on the map as far as stunning images that came
out of Hubble that inspired the Next Generation really so where can you find the Eagle Nebula
so um we have our teapot asterism here that makes it really easy to find a lot
of things that are along the plane of the Milky Way especially when the Milky Way is kind of hard to see these stars are still relatively bright you can see
see them in somewhat more like fluted places although maybe not like from the city quite
um but is nascarism that wants to see it you can never unsee it an asterism being
a sub part of a of a larger constellation or another arrangement of stars it's not an officially recognized
constellation so um if this is the top of our teapot here
and the handle we have the spout over here and the Milky Way kind of looks like it's steam rising up from the spout
of the teapot and so you can follow that steam up the Milky Way to hit up some
highlights like the Lagoon nebula the tripod nebula there's quite a few open clusters and globular clusters through
here as well you can pass through the Messier 24 Sagittarius star Cloud which
is a really dense region with a lot less gas and dust to block the way there's a
ton of stars keep going up past the
Omega Swan nebula here primals will not keep disappearing and then finally you
make it all the way up to the Eagle Nebula so it's higher in the sky than
some of the other summer highlights and for me means I can image it a little better from my more Northern latitude
because it's not quite so far down on her Horizon like the Lagoon nebula is
uh to give another context I figured I'd take a picture of the Milky Way that I have from Texas Star Party and show
where it was on a more familiar view of the Milky Way so here's our teapot asterism and the seam rising up out of
the spout the Lagoon nebula Sagittarius star cloud m17 and finally M16 Eagle
Nebula up here surrounded by stars Antares and Altair that are quite easy to pick out uh this
one here is actually Saturn uh this is from a couple years ago when it was um closer to the Milky Way
all right so side effect s that are essential to know about some
of its character so um uh I think I actually didn't update that
magnitude value from the last presentation I gave here so I think it's actually uh I think I think it's
magnitude is six points it's okay I've made tons of worst mistakes this is the
first time first time
well it looks magnitude forward okay text yeah that's true
that's right they just show up quite nicely uh quite readily in in cameras especially ones that are more red
sensitive so um I think I saw that it was actually well it's hard to say what magnitude it
is because first of all it's a huge expansive nebula um not as big as like some Step Up in cygnus but a rather large nebula and the
center where the where the Pillars of Creation are is very bright and the outer edge is much much dimmer plus it's
we've got all these stars that have their magnitude so it's actually I didn't I wasn't going to put a magnitude
number on it because it's kind of hard to really have a single magnitude for this nebula uh so it is um the uh the nebula the
stars are actually a little bit closer than kind of the main part of the nebula that's been uh carved out by those Stars
so it's about 5 700 light years away it's 70 it's some 70 by 55 ish light
years across so in as in its extend in space is quite large
and I think I'll double checked that uh the sources I was looking at these four weren't mixing up the the uh light years
and the arc minutes because the the arc minutes of apparent size is almost exactly the number of the same
which is the strange happens dance here um yeah so 70 by 50 arc minutes and apparent size uh for reference the full
moon is about 30 arc minutes across so um a couple of full moons in in size
here on the sky if we could see the whole thing it would it would be a quite a sight at its relatively large size
and discovered discovered like people like uh yeah I mean you go in a kind of
telescope to really appreciate the um the Stark cluster that's there at least a pair of binoculars so I'm scared in
1745 written down by Charles Messier he can only really see the star cluster he wouldn't have been able to see the the
nebula with the telescope that he had um but uh it turned out to be a nice
thing for him to be able to spot a name because there was a gorgeous nebula there as well
so like you can't talk about the Elon nebula without talking about the incredible Pillars of Creation
so the Hubble image I showed on the other side is the image that they produced in
um the 90s I can't remember which year it was maybe 95 um they said they produced an updated
image um not too long ago I don't remember when this one came out either but uh
they took a new image of it and it's just absolutely mind-blowing the amount
of incredible detail that you can see on the pillars and and this is a false
color image this is what's known as the Hubble palette where sulfur gas is red hydrogen gas is colored green and oxygen
gas is colored blue and so you can kind of see the mixtures of those gases here in the distribution
of the colors here I used the Hubble palette on my own image of the Eagle Nebula as well where you can see a much
lower resolution version of the pillars here um but it's always a joy to capture and
at some point I am going to do this on my higher magnification Schmidt Casa
green I just haven't had I didn't have my monochrome camera on that telescope
this summer to do it in neuroband but I think I'm going to swap and put narrowband on the reflector this summer
and put the color camera back on the refractor which I swapped last year so I'm going to swap back this year
um yes this is a three and a half hour total exposure from the Texas Star Party um actually with an S big stf 8300 that
I was borrowing so this is a CCD camera and I compared it to my zwo ASI 1600 and
the 1600 gathered as much light in about half the time as the S fig did with less
noise so my friend who's trying to sell me his s big ended up not selling it to me because it wasn't as good as my cwo
uh yeah beautiful pose of creation and I I want to just emphasize here that this
this structure here which you know from this wider perspective is just this guy here is four light years long
just I don't know how many light years four four yeah each light years 5.9
trillion trillion miles yeah 5.9 trillion miles that is an
incredible distance it's huge approximately the distance from here to office Centauri the next nearest star to
us which makes it sound smaller but that's another way to emphasize how big space is and this is a a structure of
dust that is as big as the distance between us and Alpha Centauri so it's it's truly incredible
um yeah all right so uh let's zooming in a little more on the pillars of creation
um so this structure is a little closer to 6 500 to 7000 light years away
um yes I I the five the 5700 was actually the distance to the star cluster sorry I got those backwards
um and then 6500 to 7000 is the distance to the um the pillars
these are made up of columns uh they're they're molecular hydrogen gas and gas and dust so molecular hydrogen is when
you have two hydrogens bonded together and um a lot of times in these dark nebula there's also a lot of other
chemicals and interesting things uh it's kind of what's generally referred to as dust a lot of leftover star stuff of a
bunch of different elements and even some chemical compounds these are shaped by the ultraviolet
light from The Young stars that are in the area so um these these intricate
shapes come from the Stellar Winds of these stars that push or push and pull
that gas into different shapes foreign especially in these high resolution
Hubble images you can see a lot of these tiny little uh dots and these are called
Bach globules and these are actually protostars so stars that are in the
process of forming but um haven't really like ignited yet or are in the very
initial stages of that um where the gases coalesced gas and dust under the gravitational pole and
are on the process of of forming a star now um some of you may have heard about
the fact that uh there's a star that there appears to have been a supernova
some time ago and that Shockwave from the Supernova may have already reached
the pillars and have already destroyed them and the light from that event just hasn't gotten to us yet wow I learned
when I was looking this up that our our understanding of that has actually changed in the last couple years with
new data so um the Spitzer telescope which is another infrared telescope uh showed
that uh show that this Supernova might have exploded some eight to nine thousand years ago
and that the Shockwave could be deforming the pillars but we wouldn't see it for a while however um when they
compared Hubble images that were 20 years apart so the the old version of The Pillars of Creation and the new
version um you would see some perturbation in the pillars if that shock wave was on
its way because it was kind of like the like the bow shock front and stuff like that um like you would you would see some
perturbation if that Shockwave wasn't coming but then I'll see any of that evidence so they think it's actually
been spared by this Supernova and it will actually probably be in something like this shape for another 10 000 years
so the good news is you don't have to fret we're not going to see that's good I was getting nervous yeah you know
yeah so that's that's the the most recent that I've heard on that topic that it looks like it's it's been spared
from the Supernova so uh yay for us and yay for future people looking at these
and another note I have on just the incredible size of these things those little fingers at the top of some of the
pillars here those are the size of the solar system oh wow just I'm starting to feel very
small yeah yeah oh it's it's crazy stuff so I just show what these objects in
space look like in different wavelengths of light so uh because they can sometimes look very different or
sometimes have a lot of similarities in different wavelengths of light so here we have two radio type uh views here so
the one on the left is more much longer wave radio like 1000 to 2000 megahertz
so uh shorter wave than your um uh yeah then you're like FM radio but uh
longer than um like uh like like the hydrogen alpha or the hydrogen uh the 21 centimeter line
uh for hydrogen if anybody likes that which I do um on the right is and radio images are
usually very low resolution because of that much longer wavelength of light your detector has to be physically large
and that means that a single Pixel can instead of being a couple of microns
but it is for uh for like having a camera on your telescope these things are like
centimeters across in order to match the wavelength of that light so uh your
pixel on the sky is much much larger than it is on your Optical camera so these images are usually much lower resolution unless you get into some
fancy techniques with interferometry and stuff like that on the image on the right is at a
microwave wavelength of a little less than a millimeter I'm using the scuba
instrument at the James Clerk Maxwell telescope in Hawaii and actually really in both these you can kind of see the
pillar shape there it's not quite as high depth as in the optical light with with Hubble but you can see that color
shape which I think is remarkable that even at these other wavelengths it really kind of holds that shape
um all the different chemicals glowing in these different lights light wavelengths uh kind of still are
in that shape you don't you don't always see that with nebula they can oftentimes look quite different in different
wavelengths uh so in much higher resolution we have recent images from the James Webb Space
Telescope in the near infrared and the mid infrared which are similar but kind
of reveal some different structures because when you start getting into the infrared you can actually Pierce through the dust and see deeper into the
structure so actually able to see more of what's going on inside and reveal more of the stars and Proto stars that
are in there that we can see in Optical light and these are all false color because we can't see infrared light
um but they've used different wavelengths of infrared to create a color palette like the Hubble palette
does for optical light and yeah if you haven't had a chance to go see the James Webb images of of the The Pillars of
Creation yet definitely go check them out I'm really happy they prioritize this target to make a nice kind of um uh
tie back to Hubble this is a um like the Hubble image of all time
up in x-ray so the pillars actually have a lot of Point sources of X-rays and the
stars that are forming there um would actually not be quite hot enough to Glow this hot and x-ray so
we're trying to figure out what um what type of sources that are in there that are glowing this hot and x-ray but you
can see a lot of these Point sources and they don't quite follow the shape of the pillars they're randomly distributed
um so kind of a different view here where you can't really see the pillars anymore but a lot of these x-ray sources that are inside of the pillars
um I found this neat video that shows the 3D structure of the pillars because from our perspective they can look flat
because we're just looking at it from One Direction but um using some uh
uh some data from probably from some Scopes like Gaia and harpercus that it
can tell the distances between stars um and probably some Doppler shift stuff I've been able to figure out what kind
of the rough 3D shape of of these are and they're kind of actually stacked on top of each other instead of being
completely fine which is really cool
uh nope next Slide lyrics so that that video actually showed it looks like those pillars
two there's the one tallest pillar and then the other two I had always thought
the tallest one was closer to us and this is showing when it gets to you know
the view it actually shows the other two pillars are closest to us so I find that
pretty interesting yeah yeah it is I'd never viewed him that way yeah and it is kind of hard to to tell
what's close and what's further just looking at the at the image I've actually always kind of seen it further back than the other two myself uh but
um uh yeah it's really fascinating to be able to see that 3D View for sure
yeah so if you want to observe the Eagle Nebula and The Pillars of Creation um the time of year is in the summertime
you can see if you stay up later in the night you can see it in May or
um if you don't want to stay up late wait till August or September and of course later in the year the
Milky Way doesn't rise as high because of the way that we move around um and uh and then the way that the
planet is tilted but it's really the best time it's like like July or August to um be able to catch it when it's
higher up in the sky unless you're in the southern hemisphere then it's nice and high like all the time and I'm very jealous
so um it's it's really hard it's pretty much impossible to see any of the nebula
without having like a an ultra high contrast or a nebula filter of some kind like a like an oxygen 3 filter you're
going to be able to see it the best with otherwise you just see the stars that are there and it is a nice looking cluster if you want to see the nebulae
you need to use like an ultra high contrast or an O3 narrow band filter and um but that area in the middle is
quite bright so with that filter you can actually use it on a smaller telescope and be able to see it it's just a matter
of pulling that contrast out from the background is why um those filters are
important photographically it photographs well at every focal length of instrument you
might have if you have a short camera lens you can get it plus the a swan
nebula and the same view and it's really cool with a like a 500 millimeter
refractor you can get kind of a wide shot and see the eagle shape like the
image I had um a couple slides ago or if you have a long focal length reflector you can zoom
right in on the pillars of creation and get a nice shot there or the other Spire that's nearby them so it it photographs
well at every at every length of telescope and you can do it either in wide band with light
pollution filters or in narrow band and if you do a wide band you pretty much
only get the red signal and it can be kind of hard to distinguish the pillars from the background as you can see in
the image on the background of the slide here but if you do it in narrow band
um it's still in my hydrogen signal last time I processed it it was kind of hard to pull out from the background because
it's also bright right there but you can get some nicer color contrast in if you
do it in narrow band but it can be done in in wideband for sure especially with a more red sensitive Astro camera
although this picture here was done with a DSLR that's unmodified um and yep all right I covered all those
things and yeah that's what I've got on the Eagle Nebula awesome
let me see if there were any questions here um
you did worry the audience that uh you know that those pillars might be gone in a few
thousand years so I've long been worried about this and was glad that gets a
chance to research it this week and see that it has recently been determined to probably not be destroyed so yay we were
talking uh David eicher and I were talking about rock rock and rollers that are now performing still doing Stadium
type events at near 80 or past 80 years old you know so yeah I think some of
them might still be around for this event you know so I could think of certain College
professors who probably still be around too I mean outfit them with some telescopes
and some cameras and stuff so yeah yeah that's right but uh on any account I
really appreciate you being on uh Molly and uh what's going on with your your
studies and and your work um yeah so I um I passed my prospectus
so I'm officially a PhD candidate now which is very all right um congratulations thank you and uh so
now I'm in full research mode so I I got my data actually last January at the 88
inch cyclotron at Lawrence Berkeley lab shooting neutrons onto a square of
aluminum oxide to measure how those neutrons interact with the oxygen
uh and um so I have all that data and I finally am getting a chance to get my hands on
it after all the schoolwork I had to do earlier this year so I'm most of the way through doing all the calibrations and
then I have to do some some stuff with the detectors to measure their efficiency
um and then I can start kind of parsing the bits of the data together to to get the values that I want out of it so um
this will be a month-long process but I'm excited to just finally get to spend my days oh yeah doing the data analysis
instead of like doing coursework or studying for exams so we know you'll do an amazing amazing job so that's great
so do you have an ETA now for when you'd be able to defend
so I'm gonna it looks like I'm gonna defend probably uh Late July or sometime in August I'm hoping to get through this
data analysis or and get get as much as I can out of it by like June so I can get all my Papers written and get
um I plan us to write the the dissertation that I have left to go after doing the prospectus
um uh as I go so I don't have to just do a ton of writing at the end so but I'll have some Journal articles to write
during that time as well yeah so I know it's one thing at a time
but then um then the big party after they declare you Dr Wakeling that's difficult party
yeah we we're all looking forward to hearing yeah yeah I'll have to come on and uh give a
give a talk or something I don't know that'll be great we want your first talk
is Dr Wakeling that would be pretty great yeah and good
luck in your studies and go get it thanks great okay thank you again uh Molly
um we're gonna go down from the USA down to Argentina uh where you know I've been
watching uh I don't know if you guys have been watching the FIFA World Cup of
you know soccer Argentina is doing pretty good so oh my
God yeah how do you feel uh yeah
yeah and then we got Brazil coming up after this so you know you guys uh you
know they made it past a round of oops sorry Scott but you both made it past the round of 16 didn't you
oh yeah oh yeah we're looking at uh teams that are the best in the world you know so foreign
excellent excellent Dean uh excellent players so games sorry and and of course
that argentinians we are prepared for suffering all time because any any game
is easy for us and we starting losing uh
from Arabia um we are suffering each each instance
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these countries are extremely passionate about their soccer okay very very
passionate yeah you call it football football yeah
Marcelo do you wear do you wear that shirt uh when you're watching I think that yes
my kids my kids my kids use my kids
yeah yeah we are now using the uh we
have another one that is uh blue
I try to to control myself
uh since I've heard that in Argentina none of the fans can control themselves
it's so fun me and from here exists a fun fest in here in my town in
Palermo the area of Buenos Aires um we choose see the the games in in the
by TV but my my daughter uh go to the
Fun Fest and at only four blocks from here uh the last game was for 40 000 people
in the fun fest with a big screen in the Stream wow for yes and we listened The
Noise We because it's like a stadium it's only a big screen
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forty forty thousand people watching 40 000 people watching yes wow the TV only
that sounds like this is like one of Marcelo star parties though yeah yeah
we're gonna get to that number eventually here in the states we have American football college football and
my team's down to the Final Four so we've um
we're rooting for University of Michigan there's uh three other schools our hated
Rivals and then two other schools Georgia and Texas Christian University I
believe no but but you are getting the money in the in the stadiums yeah yeah
and uh-huh you can you can found uh um
an interview to Matt Damon because uh the mother wife is Argentinian
um he talked with a with interviewer that he said he said to his father-in-law to
say okay we can go to the to see to Boca Juniors Boca Juniors is
I am from River play I am I am a honorable fan and another team is Boca
Schumer okay the biggest the biggest rival team in Argentina arrival yes and
and his mental to to but Damon say but David
that is the Ryan Soldier you know they say okay no no it's not easy it's
without Childs without a woman's we can go to see to work at junors and the the
experience is amazing but it's a little dangerous because yeah you you can see a
lot of it's you can see something like a war like like a lot of of uh police uh
you know the passion is sometimes it's dangerous the problem is that in many
many stadiums to have a do you have the the
things are not easy to to share or to but I so I so
you know I I saw this in in the stadiums and are and are incredible and of course
that now the passion wow Rio de Janeiro martello
and people are crazy yeah yeah yes there's that blue jersey you were
talking about my cello between Saving Private Ryan
Interstellar and the Martian the U.S has spent a lot of money on rescuing Matt Damon I love you so much about this yes
I love Molly is one of the best yes
Damon should probably go to the moon for real at this point yeah yeah right yeah
I just saw a review of the top movies about space you know top 100 of course
number one is you know uh 2001 A Space Odyssey guess what number two is the
Martian the Martian wow that's number two because the merchant is amazing and
it's so so um the book is really good too and it
goes into a lot more yes a lot more stuff happens in the book that's also really fun and scary so that book is
always better than the movies yeah it's a good job wherever the book
are better than the movies from The Lord of the Rings
oh you don't need that yeah that's way longer than the movie yes
Brazilian games nobody will yeah every schools Stars everything is closed
everything is after the game is nothing everybody's celebration
yes we are crazy we went to a different sport
we didn't follow for a while but then after the US got eliminated we started
watching college back to football back to American football
back to college football we have short-term memories in the U.S
we haven't quite made it to the uh we were hopeful for this particular national team because they were getting
through getting further and further but then didn't quite you know there's more to go uh yeah but I think that that
you're what the kids now the kids are are like killing and and lovely and
alone every time more soccer than football because they are a soccer
United States football United States starting with kids and especially the
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and girls sorry boys and girls and especially in girls the girls are
excellent playing football and in United States have a great level of of
um um sorry a woman sucker and it's in the
world it's one it's it's going to be one of the best team in the world of woman
soccer and this is something that every every each each four years made to I saw
more passion this uh World Cup yeah that's the last one that the last one or
the the two uh two World Cups ago and it's something that don't have uh don't
have returned without return maybe into workers yeah
U.S going to the to the yes to the fourth final you know the passionate and
everything and yes yes only only way yeah a lot of a lot of people play here
especially kids but nobody really kids after that there's something called the soccer mom or soccer dad that's here
we have it as a Major League sport and it's getting its support from somebody but um yeah so it's still growing you
just wait the most important a little more now than it in the states yes absolutely
it's something that we need to change in Argentina about football is the violence uh because it's in is it in a stupid
thing that you can you can't go with your family many people go to the with
the family of many many games are safe but the most important important games
that you like to go finals or you say no it's not safe and this is a ridiculous I
see a part of politics uh for many I'm talking about about a Lord of the Rings
bigger Mortensen he grow in Argentina and he's a fanatic a totally fan of
San Lorenzo and Margaret a local team in in Buenos Aires and he is very concerned
about the violence in the football and he is an activist about here in Argentina when
he came to zipper and talked about against the violence because it's it's
totally stupid and for example my kid play a rugby rugby is totally insane and
you can get without protection it's like American food but but without without
protection we love the crown of your real head yeah
yes but it's a gentleman sport never never they they are they are pay
attention pay attention to the to the referee or the people never it's totally
private the you know Fanatics never it's
If he if a clan a fight with another talking about the The Hooligans and say
no no so they provided that you you can lose one year in the championship in
your club and this is something that they have totally different rules the sport is 10 times
violence that the football play but they are gentlemen but they are gentlemen
when they are accepted that my kids say come out and Bradley you you are
how do you say you're you're older you are knocking with another guy you know
they get it all out yeah they say I never they say oh my God
something that they are great actors and they are showing watching the the referee to say
okay it's penalties penalty okay so let's start go back to astronomy now
I'm not astronomy thank you
guys get your feedback
from the object first and you can either try and spot the object in your scope or
you can go knock down other Scopes and then go try and spot it you have to go through six objects in
the night sky so it's uh sorry sorry
here in Brazil I talk about football I was young I played football every day
I think that is very important that Syria fights in Brazil is that the scientists have the same recognition as
the players where he has here well this is
that we are fighting here and this is a promise of our culture but I hope you
one day you have astronomers and the scientists every kind of science science
here has the same recognition by Society here that we have it for the players no
yeah I think the interest is there you know you we do get large crowds and
people are amazed when they see things um things like the moon or Saturn Scott
you were talking about it and lots of people do come out now not as many as
for the sports fervor but we do have some crowds in it oh yeah it can be an
amazing thing yes
yeah something that that we Brazil and Argentina have a a a
huge huge astronomic Community I know totally because I I received a lot of
time people that in our stores when they people that coming from Brazil and
automatically when they they watch telescope in our Windows they came and
from any any city in Brazil uh they have their own astronomy clubs and it's
something that between Argentina and Brazil uh I of course at Chile of course
that yes yes I have a huge Community too um but especially in Brazil and Buenos
Aires the kind uh Brazil north of is an
area without big mountains or or without the the typical weather that you can
expect in our area or in south of Brazil
um because it's rainy it's humid not unfortunately now but uh but we think that we are more
interested uh because uh really we love uh science and the kind of of
um culture in Brazil Argentina Chile Paraguay
Uruguay it's great that that we have
something that that we recognize uh about curiosity something that I can see
when Marcelo hello marcellos show the the activities with the kids I can feel
the same the Curiosity you know and this is something something great of course
that we have more money and investment in football and football than science
but we the the best way is is is going
to to continue and make these kind of things well that's something that I I if I have
time yeah short time only I can show you uh
let me check because I am in a computer with two screens and maybe I I feel a
little a little uh well
okay yes it's sorry that I can change something that I don't know if
I I have sorry um I I need to change to to
share my screen uh something that I thought that I had
uh well okay well first of all I can show you
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the the the first thing that I think that you can
see uh this nebula yes okay okay this is the the the single
the single types the single lines of uh
um last uh last week of tarantula nebula something interesting in tarantula
nebula is that it's not a nebula in our galaxy if not is in a large magellanic
cloud and Molly say yes as I again and uh it's interesting because it's it's a
most uh most uh long away nebula in in
the south in the southern hemisphere that we can see and it's uh I'll change
to the to the final image here how long was that exposure
uh well here here do you have the
each line that I show you in each frame and
we have a one minute only in 400 US is so he saw only 400. okay uh because uh
my camera is a little a little old and start to make a lot of noise over the
800 ESO and something that that you can you can change when you have a reflex
camera without cooler you know it's something that I I prefer to recommend
is use a lower is so if you can use a
little more longer exposition something that worked better here the
quality is not so good because uh do you have
we had a a a really a huge win in my in
the rooftop and it's not the quality that I show you in the last Oreo nebula
is uh I I like to repeat again this this
nebula because it's a it's a Target that I I consider really interesting
um you know it's a it's a nebula that is very far far away in a circle in a satellite Galaxy of our
Milky Way and we can make a better a better
and a better picture that but
despite this you can see many details
and uh really uh do you have a lot of of uh different Stars uh and it's really
interesting to to make um maybe uh here for example I have only
18 minutes of exposures and is really
really a low quantity of time for this nebula but my idea is repeat this target
of this this nebula with one hour in one hour and this is so
I think that it will be much further and another thing that I have
in process for processing maybe maybe I can I'll show you later in the end of of
the global third party the final image um but I can show you an individual
individual take
here you can see the you can see the zoom
note I think that see sorry it's
here okay
you can see a quantity to Ghana it's is the the cool thing the closing
of of uh Omega Centauri cluster quantity
maybe don't have to to uh black holes
but maybe have one um I'm proud well Molly say yes because
thank you Molly yeah no no I if you
this is I I totally I appreciate totally this but it's very interesting that uh
that really um in Omega Center Canada kind of uh of
clusters are so personally interesting Omega Centauri for me something like is
is the core is a naked core of an old Galaxy is something that that is Flowing
mind-blowing for me um I know I don't know if for seven to
kind of it's this kind of of core of of on our galaxy thing that no is different
but uh it's a it's a it's a cluster of around 10
000 Stars I don't know more uh to explain about this but
um I'll I'll processing this picture for tonight and maybe if I found you I send
you the picture or I'll still communicate to show the final process
if you like and this is so ah I'm sorry sorry and I have something more
that is our our work in Friday and and
last Saturday let me see if I can show you
show you something more that is
well maybe next time I prefer prepare uh um we have an activity activities in
something that we call it the LA nochero ligros um with uh we put
some firms like telescopes uh in in a
for for to show the people Stars especially
um especially the mom Mars and hope Peter
um the people coming to to watch by telescope and we use the first light
um 130 Newtonian and firstly 80 millimeters refractor
the boat models both models over uh
e-axis 100 Mount
um the the telescope was really very helping uh
um was very interesting because the operators I I was a Friday showing anyone telescope for for visual and
another telescope with a planetary camera for Jupiter Mars Moon
um in a big screen not this time not for for what football is about if not
planets oh you can use television screens for something other than football
yes yes yes yes sure it's incredible but yes and hey I
never watched FIFA until this year okay so this is my first experience my wife
is from Honduras and she's teaching me soccer so I'm trying to relate it all back to astronomy you know because
everything's part of the universe right so absolutely absolutely yes yes
um and really we we we was um uh we I was in Friday with the people
will receive around 400 people watching in the in the by telescope making a long
a long tale of people and um on Saturday the the volunteers I I
watch I I was not in in on Saturday in the in this event but I I can I I could
um give them support to use the the PSM
a system of the exos 100 and they start to say okay I understood and they they
use it and they receive 600 people to watch
by telescope and was a success was something very very nice but I don't
know I next time next uh Global support I'll
watch I watch uh I'll sorry I'll show
um a presentation of of uh of this and these activities
but I don't have any more tonight yeah yes go Argentina
yes we are suffering this Friday again with Netherlands what okay is the life
you know so here's some uh here's some response
here uh turak and the UAE says he's a Brazil fan himself okay uh he says he
wants to see the football nebula or soccer cluster out there in space and he says maybe that running man would buy
Orion is actually a football player right amen I think maybe I don't know maybe yeah yes so M27 Molly says that
the dumbbell nebula has the football shape on top of The Hourglass you can see it visually under very dark skies
and larger yeah so it's more yes American football yes many many
sure my many kids say that that exists in the moon in a messy in the moment I
don't know yes you know that's right yes people it's incredible a lot of people
from any part of the world talking about Messi and this is craziness
um I saw a video where where the people another the another thing the Australian
team soccer's uh player uh start taking
pictures with Messi come on oh yeah it's that passion it's incredible something
like this it's a passion like astronomy sure of course yeah and finally Beatrice
Hines in Belgium says maybe soon a new small round nebula will be discovered
near the Running Man nebula the football nebula yes we need to put it's coming folks to
a Galaxy near you so yeah okay well thank you so much Caesar thank you you're welcome and you're welcome
good luck in the uh FIFA thank you okay okay so up next we're gonna we're going
from Argentina to Brazil okay and uh uh of course uh Marcelo Souza is here with
us he is a professor uh in Brazil and he leads an amazing uh uh group of uh young
people actually people of all ages to discover the universe down in South America
um he holds a international uh space and astronomy event that I've I've attended
myself both virtually and in person um and I hope to make it down there in
person uh you know in the next year or so that would be really great
um and but this time uh you know uh Marcelo is also a cosmologist by
training and he's going to be talking about general relativity so I'm going to turn it over to you Marcelo
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thank you very much for the invitation guys it's a great pleasure to be here and uh I don't know if everybody knows
we have problems with Argentina with football
uh relation that to heaven for them yes for us the best thing is Brazil
but you got your NASA shirt on right now so yeah right yeah
okay excellent and it was always on the heart yes
I'd like to see what to happen but I I will talk now
I I got a short presentation about some aspects of the General Health activity
that is the is it what we need to consider when we
analyze it biggie objects right likely big galaxies then
we need to you can't use the gravity that you use from that's why
it's developed by neutral Isaac Newton and
then we need you to need Corrections that's always made by Einstein
and the I will show some ideas associated with the changes
in the ways that we see the words we have a poet Brazil uh Portuguese poet
that he said something that's that you use until now he said what we consider
as Humanity the universe is not my idea
but my idea of the universe that is my idea this is a a quote that's very famous the
name of Chipotle is Fernando person that is the most famous Portuguese poetry
I have some ideas now how that we change for a system
we feel uh we have we accelerate definitions differentials and here one
of the basic principles is the equivalence principle that we can if you are in the surface of
a planet is a very short region where you can
consider the you have your uniform gravitational fields and if you have
another person traveling in space with an acceleration that is the same of
the garage acceleration of the planets and if if you don't have Windows you
don't have conditions to say if you are in the surface of the planet or if you
are moving in the space because the effects that you feel are the same if
you live accelerator of the gravity in both
systems then this is the idea of the equivalence principle then uh
system that is as we fully form acceleration is the heavy is equivalent to the
influence of the gravitational fluids there are only formic gravitational fields
and then another thing that's important for us is when you say that you want to
measure the distance between two points right generally we consider Geo
Collegian geometry that you you we consider that you are in a plane region
then but see relief in a nice fear
in a group that is yes then if you want to match the distance between two points
in the surface of the of your planet of the other plants on the moon you need to
follow the cover tool of Fiji region then the distance of two points is not a
straight line in the surface of a planet because it's a cool planets and the
orange locally that you can consider that you you can use a straight line to
match this distance it's a approximation that works well when you have a small
distance between the two points and to talk about the general activity
we need to talk about the changes in Geometry well euclids I don't know if
this correction uh pronunciation English material cleats
almost 300 years before Christ he who wrote the elements that is the
base of his geometry in this book you have definitions of a point that you
don't have Parts a straight line that is something that you have a distance we we
filled out especially here as a face and having the postulates the five famous
personates I have here in English sorry because it was in Portuguese but here
are the four bracelets a straight line segment can be down joining in two
points this definition of a straight line any straight line segments can be extended indefinitely in a straight line
giving any straight line segments and see who can be drawn having the segments
as radius and one end pointer Center our right angles are congruents and
the problem that you have is with the fifth postulates that says this if two
lines are now with intersects are third in such a way that the sum of linear
angles on one side is less than two right angles then two lines inevitably
most intersect each other on that side if you extended far enough
this postulate is equivalent to what is known as the parallel postulate it's a
two straight lines indefinite will be parallel but see you don't have proof of
this person leads as a theorem then to analyze these postulates which
was necessary to develop a new kind of visuality that's called genome Collegian geometry then we have many people that
contributes like John Wallace you see here euclides we were talking about it
300 years before at least and they really have changes in these
ideas in the 7th century 70 percentage
and with John Wallace with the Sashay human
society and the famous one that is ugal's Giant in the 18th century
and the bully I love ski
anyhima they developed a new kind of geometry that you can deal with
curved surface that's what we need I will show when we talk about the
universe and the foreign
geometry the gross geometry you have many different interpretation that you
can make you have a geometry a lot of chefscript really major geometry
and way too heavy if you want to do measure the distance between two two points like
here you have here axis
Y and Z Zeta and the distance from
of two points here you have to to have the first coordinate square the square
root of the second coordinate the square root of research coordinates sum then
and then you if you have the square root you have the distance between these two
points this is in the occlusion geometry but you want when you want to measure
the distance between two points in a coffee region
we have a different kinds of the
expression mathematical expression to make this measurements and you need a new kind of mathematics
here we have an element here that's for a tensor that I will not talk about this
but with this expression you can uh
measure you have a neck you can produce an expression to measure the
distance between two points in any region within curvature so
like this one you need to follow the curvature of the surface of the region
of the space that you know light that is something let's see I talk about
the equivalence principle and this is the idea associated with
this new vision of the universe here you have a apple
and you have a two small vessels here there is more persons here and surface
of the apple and once they choose the other let's walk you in parallel
ever parallel between us then when they begin to walk
they begin to be closer but they don't know why they are people
because they don't know geometry of the surface then watch they can imagine that
you have a fruit that is making them to being together to be closer but if you
know the geometry or if you surface you see well that's it you don't have a
force acting here it's because of geometry if they walk in this reaction
that they are walking they will be near every time that they are wrong
then I think with this idea they imagining us that we don't know the topology of the universe then you have
an equation that Associates geometry of the universe with the distribution of
mass and energy of the Universe on one side you have a distribution for mass energy in the other side geometry mass
energy the energy are the same thing and with this idea if they he made a
prediction that is the Sun the animals
can change the cover to the Fiji space time I'm talking about the four dimension space time
and the information difference of a star like in the Sun this star will change
the geometry of the space time and then what
happens this when you have the lights that you can follow statues if the
sub is between the star and the our planets the light followed over tool of
the space-time and when you look from the earth we imagine that this ties in a
different position and when you compare with the moments
that the the sound is not a bit is between the star but how that you can
prove this okay when how that you can test this mode it's only possible during
a solar eclipse because it is this month that you can see the stars that are near this one
behind the sound then the first test was made in 1919 here in
Brazil around
in Africa and it is why the moments that the result this is the original picture
well the of the stars then the comparative position the Stars when the
sun was not here and the the measures were very according
to the results of attended by the icing
equations then this major Einstein very famous
yeah and these are the results of the you
have two Bridge scientists that coordinates and do I organize the
missions to measure measurements here in Brazil was under problem that was
responsible for her to organize the Expedition ending in the principle Islands
from Brazil and in the city of sobra when we say that they have a museum to
celebrate these moments that's the eclipse movie Museum
to the eclipse and yeah also if you have the lights
well you have you can imagine a Galaxy very a very distant Galaxy and between
us and another galaxy you have this galaxy then the lights as the effects of
the equivalent of the light happens in many directions different directions then you have image like this that you
put a gravitational lens then you have image these lines that you see here are
amazes of a Galaxy S after when you look from the earth air
Galaxy that are near near the cells and if I have in many interactions
perhaps something like this that you call Johnston cross that looks like a cross but this volume
is that you see here uh virtual image of the Galaxy that is behind this one that
is in the center
effects of the change of direction of light in many directions and it looks
like a ring and then we have it now uh what size
they imagined that this is fantastic because he matched that this could happen
from the results of his Expressions the questions and then they made the
measurements to prove these results then there's something
that's fantastic here is the major fairness but this is a short presentation about the idea of general
has achieved and this is very important to us because it is a fantastic mode
and he is the best mode that you have that we have
journalize these effects that I showed here thank you Scott uh thank you Marcelo
thank you very much and I don't know that everybody could follow the math but uh but uh you know I
think that it was a great presentation thank you so much Eddie I hope everybody is here from Brazil
I put on a another shirt for my presentation
maybe one day you know Michigan will be at the FIFA Cup you never know so well
some of the players from the soccer team may wind up on the FIFA Cup I know
Michigan has a pretty good soccer program you don't because it's not as big as the football or basketball or
even the hockey program we don't hear much about where the athletes end up but
um but uh interesting enough uh Marcelo your presentation and you talked about
the star being visible during the total solar eclipse and uh we may not think of
it often but with the upcoming solar eclipse in 2024
there may be an opportunity to redo the experiment for ourselves looking looking
for a Starlight right from a star that is technically behind the Sun but is
being the lightest being bent by the Sun's gravity that's something to write down and keep it you need to have the
same grouping of stars I think is the yeah you'd have to you'd have to map the
group of stars before like you said before the sun yeah so ends up in that
part of the sky and then the see if one of those Stars you know has
moved over or you know is on the side of the sun you know in calculate's position it
sounds like an interesting um experiment you know Adrian if you get
the chance you're you're not far from um from Yorkie's Observatory and in their
plate Vault that they have there and I believe it still may be in their play ball they they may have moved it to
University of Chicago but they had the recreation of that experiment done in
the 1950s and uh uh when that when that experiment was run the the telescope
that was in Brazil and then another telescope there were two telescopes one was I I forget the island uh that uh uh
that they went to uh Marcella you probably know that name which island did they or the eclipse
and there was a little tiny disagreement between these two plates okay and for
years until 1950 okay from 1919 until 1950 there was still controversy over it
now in 1919 they said conclusively that Einstein's theory was correct and there
was big Fanfare and this really made Einstein Super Famous okay yeah uh at
the time but there was still some question that question was laid to rest in 1950 by the recreation of that
experiment and that plate that very important plate is at uh is in the
possession of Yorkies Observatory so and I got to see it uh with so it's kind of
a interesting to uh take a look look at but you're right Adrian this could be
recreated and probably recreated by amateur astronomers yeah it's um as long as I'd have to go
to the exact spot where I wanted to view the total solar eclipse to get that Sky
prior to going there when the sun ends up in that part of the sky so I'd have
to you'd have to be careful about how you do it I can't take a I could take a
picture of the sky in Michigan and then go to Toledo and it would be close but
there would still be a little bit of inaccuracy um but uh yeah it makes for an
interesting experiment the problem with going to Toledo also is will it actually
be sunny that day you know will there be clouds in the sky I think a lot of folks
from this area are planning to go to Texas where there's less chance of a
cloudy Sky to view it so yeah the weather is a factor in April in
the midwest latitudes um in the states so we we have to worry about those I don't know if you know
about the history but here in Brazil when they were preparing to observe the
eclipse in 1919 and this guy who was with a lot of clouds before the
beginning of the eclipse and that clouds cleared in time yes in the moments of
the eclipse it's good good when that happens
yeah so so Scott are you ready for we are all ready for you ready for me to
take we are all ready for you I've been trying to take over Star Party to hold
and we've had some great presentations we like David eicher's uh his new
segments because um he he mentions that uh is
astrophotographers we tend to shoot the same things yeah over and over again
and just try and massage the data a little bit differently so that it you
know there's more now that you're doing it somehow different or better than yeah all your predecessors but uh and there's
nothing wrong with that but uh the magazine so especially the magazine does want to
show uh new things that uh or what would seem to be new to a lot of uh amateur
astronomers and amateur astronomers now are learning how to get the reach by doing these incredibly long uh stacked
attract you know it's not uncommon now to have people doing 60 80 and 100 hour
combined exposures you know so and when they do that they are they are pushing
really beyond the limits of what there was before you know so
Absolutely I'll go ahead and share my screen
um I'll start a presentation here soon but I wanted to just go along that line
um you know something like this to me is a unique way to present
the um total eclipse and I know I presented this like that um the last
Global star party but for me it's it's the variety of and then it's also the oh
yeah that's beautiful yeah it's the unique it's the unique look into our
universe this of course into our solar system with the backdrop of stars
in the Galaxy here um and as you know as sharp as I can get
this Moon um sharp enough so that it's it looks the way that you see it in a pair of
binoculars it's um I think that this is what makes different types of astrophotography even
if it's Moon photography I think it's something that um that makes things more
interesting I mean it's for astrophotographers that are starting being able to get
um these sorts of shots and even this image I use as a background
seeing which I'll be covering this section of the Milky Way um and I'll be covering
um in a little ways tying my presentation back to the Stellar Wind theme that we
have um going but um seeing things in a different light this was the image that
uh David eicher shared on his social media and I've got many more that I I
should be sharing with him um as I go but what I want to do
um is talk about and you're going to see when I start this presentation
um Milky Way Photography is one of the my most favorite things to do and
um I prepared a presentation about just what I see
when I shoot the Milky Way the different parts and when you talk about shooting
the same thing over and over again this is I'll go into that in this
presentation this chord right here most Astro landscape astrophotographers night
photographers that tends to be what we keep seeing over and over again as a backdrop to
something else in the foreground and I want to go ahead and
get this started let's see if uh okay
let me stop sharing for a second because I'm sharing the wrong screen or maybe I
can pull this yeah I'm gonna stop sharing for a second because
I have three screens so I'm going to pick the right screen to share that's
green I'm gonna share it gets confusing yeah is screen three
and I'm going to see if I can do this from
the beginning share and now
if I do this and I click from beginning
see if it will oh okay here we go
thank you all right so let's start beginning with four sides to the northern Milky
Way so this is how we see the Milky Way Marcelo and Cesar see some other parts
to this Milky Way which I would call Region 5 and region six region five
being the area around the Southern Cross and Ada Karen a and uh the cold sack and
the sixth region below Orion where you can see the magellanic clouds
um the connection leads past the well past the southern bulge past Ada Karen a
and on into for the southern hemisphere you're upside down Orion and the uh of
course the tarantula nebula I believe Cesar that was in the that's in the
large magellanic cloud or the small uh sorry I I I couldn't
um listen the last um the the tarantula nebula is in the in
the big uh in the large the Atlantic clouds
congratulations okay yeah those are two of my favorite objects that I haven't seen for myself yet but thanks to Global
Star Party um Cesar Marcelo and Maxi have shown
them Nico who wasn't here tonight so let me go ahead and Blaze through
the um sides so I have where to see all four sides for those of you in the
northern hemisphere you could say all six a portal 4 Sky reading allows you to
see um naked eye hearts of the Milky Way
galaxy the galactic band um when it shines near the end of nautical twilight you are in a high
Portal 2 slash border one zone bortle the portal
3 Zone it appears but it appears after year and
after you're in astronomical Darkness so here in the northern hemisphere we've
got the galactic core which the northern part of this shows up at my latitude so
mid-latitudes 40 41 42 43
um the number in mid-latitude between Scorpius and Sagittarius
um one of the dsos that we just heard from Molly
um M16 is the dot that I'm pointing at in the arrow
we we heard about how many light years across so let's get an idea of how big
this thing really is we heard about how many light years across four light years
for The Pillars of Creation they're I'm not sure they're even a pixel in this dot that's right here
that is that is the um visible part of the eagle the Eagle Nebula shows up here
and you know so if that's you know so many light years across the
entire thing and then you've got this huge structure
so we talk about a hundred thousand light years to go across
just to go across the face of this is how many light years and it's it can be mind-boggling when you think about just
how large the structure is which explains why we can see it so well even
from the outskirts of the Galaxy from our planet this thing is huge other
parts of the region the cygnus region we
call it here is cygnus you can see the North American nebula in miniature and
the Seder region which is the middle dot here's cygnus the main stars of sickness
the summer triangle these three Bright Stars Vega deneb and Altair is here
and you see this region of the Milky Way now when you look up from sit the city you don't see this huge
Rift and you definitely wouldn't want to see these things but um at a darker
sight to the naked eye you begin to see these even if you don't see the colors
you begin to see the structures here and there's I call it it's the next
brightest region of our home Galaxy now if I were to look at Ada Karen a that
the region in there I would suspect the brightness would be similar because
ETA Karen is at least as bright if not brighter than you know the the
um nebula here North American nebula so um
moving forward to this region which I don't know if it's imaged as much and it
ought to be because there's the Andromeda galaxy and there's m33 I think
this is NGC and I forget the number I don't think it's 752 I think 752 is somewhere else
but here you have to double cluster the heart and the soul and on into the
um ha regions in Cassiopeia the bubble is around here somewhere
um this region of the Milky Way starts to become faint in finer parts of
the uh well what I mean to say is uh if you are in
an area where the sky is not as dark it's harder to see this region you
generally just see Cassiopeia and if you get to at least the bortal
foresight and drama this entire galaxy 2.4 million light years away begins to
show up as a faint little fuzzy patched and you have to get somewhere really dark before this starts to show up as a
faint fuzzy little patch that's the Andromeda region because we're in the northern hemisphere we see that year
around just like we see the cygnus region here because though that rolls
year round and the Orion region the uh the region that
I call the skies up region because Marcelo and Scott were gracious enough
to put an image of this on the front cover this is a uh this is a similar
image I took I took this year in 2022 this region is just loaded with
dust Lanes dark nebulae but it's the faintest region of all
and it's you know it's harder to see and here's Orion
um if you've listened to Talks by Kareem Jaffer you'll find that in some cultures indigenous cultures in the U.S this was
known as the winter maker whenever you saw these Stars you knew that winter was
coming and so I've dubbed it and you'll see in the slide later the winter maker section
of the Galaxy so if we go through here in the north we call it the summer Milky Way because it's summer for us
Cesar and Marcelo will beg to differ yes winter the winter make your way it is
the winter Milky Way yeah and and I I talk about that a lot because I really
this is a great show to you know it's a good platform to just
let everybody know here in the northern hemisphere we've given some colloquial names to these things
we it's good to be aware that there's an entire globe and that the sky
looks different around the globe and the climate is different around the globe so when we call it the summer Milky Way it
may make sense to us but Cesar Marcelo anyone in the southern hemisphere
they know differently they've they've they've grown up differently this is not summer for them this is it's cold they
have a jacket on Imaging the rest of what we can't see is what they can see
down there so yes maybe maybe in Brazil
yeah closer to this yes
yes Brazil
sometimes in the south of Brazil do you have a little of snow in places near to
to our North yes in the southern age of
Brazilian lives here that is near the Capricorn tropical it's not so cold
right yeah only in the mountains you have here in the mountains is very close yes so so this part of the Milky Way the
little bit that we get to see sometimes this is the beginning of the Southern bulge and so
um for those in the southern hemisphere can visualize what's next what comes
that we can't see below ground but um and that's what I wrote here we'd see
the rest of the Southern bulge we'd see the region leading to Alpha Centauri Crux of culsac the toucan
um and this should say small magellanic Cloud because that's where the the 47
tucane is so this um I think the constellation is toucan and that is that the constellation where
the small magellanic Cloud um line of sight is from that
constellation or no I I'm not sure the name of the the
consolation where is the small magazine Cloud yeah I think that is is well and
really I need to to I would have to look too yeah I I know there's a
constellation called are the typical name of it's not tukana but I think that
is let me let me find because it's yes
uh what is yes but the name of the of the constellation I I don't remember we
would look that up so this slide will probably change because I do want to
include this little second largest globular cluster um that we can see you know of
Omega but Omega Centauri is not a in the area of the large and small
magellani class right it's further I think it's closer to this uh bulge that
we can't see here uh which I'm not you can't see my arrow here down in here is
where um it would be but um
yes I think it is where South okay it's not often this
but is where is
clouds yes yes we can show okay yeah uh but out of focus yeah yeah
so oh so I'll look I'll end up changing that other slide then
um in the not so distant future but yeah so as I'm going through here
um a lot of the images you know I'm showing now have
this part of the core and then a bit of the um Galactic arm with him
um 17 and 16. this is a sharpless object here this is um
the set the uh small Sagittarius cloud the large Sagittarius cloud is this
region right here and this tends to be the backdrop for a
lot of northern hemisphere um landscape
Artistry um beautiful images um you know the beauty of this part of
the Galaxy um we I would say it can be matched when
you look at the other regions that we can see but this is definitely the
brightest lots of dark nebula here when you can when you image you try and get
this dark nebula that really brings you know brings out contrast in the images
now come to that was all from out west under very high Portal 2 Skies so you
can very high Portal 2 Skies with what I believe is a two-minute exposure
here this is a two-minute exposure as The Milky Way Rises and there's Haze
and you can still see some of that detail
at my latitude but you just have to catch it on a clear sky
and this look at all of what's visible here this is the Scorpion
the stars come down just below this tree line to here so the prawn
I keep forgetting that I've got something different the um here are the stars of the Scorpion
coming down so the prawn nebula is here the cat's paw and The Lobster Claw and
other things that as it as this part of the Milky Way
continues to roll um in the northern hemisphere this stuff
disappears the further south you go the longer it stays in the sky the higher in the sky this goes
so because it's bright you can image the galactic core and the and these parts
around it even if you're in it's not such a dark sky and um
Scott this is the Sprite that I think I captured somehow while Imaging all these
various types of light pollution in the clouds oh yeah notice the uh color of the cloud of neighboring towns both
Canada and the United States I'm on oh I see it most of them right little and
then there's that Arc yeah that's great this light so you can image
this in most levels of sky but the
darker the sky the more impressive it looks and a lot of landscape
astrophotographers shoot the Milky Way you can go on to
um Instagram right now and see some very amazing shots and this will be the angle
that that Milky Way will have it'll it'll be angled up here there's also the
ability to do a panorama with it um it goes here and then you you shoot
the rest of the regions um so let's talk about a different
region um and once again I'll remind you that uh we're going to get to the part where
all this relates somehow to the Stellar Wind
um right now we're looking at a whole bunch of stars even when the core is visible
Imaging this region there's a lot that you can see and it's very bright
um it has some features all of its own including this little round area which to me
has kind of the look of a stadium you know and there you know it's got
around I'll show another version of the image this it's a popular region to image
um even if it's not the core the galactic core is down here
and then you get to the cygnus region and you've got this
this area where you've got the great thickness Rift and then you've got the
North American nebula which shows up in the fall here in Michigan we the
trees turn and so you can capture those fall colors along with the cygnus region
and as fall we're having a sluggish turn
to winter so not much snow but here you see
the um North American nebula shows up even in this image
where there's a lot of light pollution over here it still shows up and going
this way the dark nebulae around the third of the lizard shows up here
and then it is an absolute Majestic sight when this region is setting
um yeah I like that green Air glow down there it's pretty look you've got this
amazing serene yep that's it's very Serene that's a four in the morning shot
um okay text and the first time I saw this
um you know with I've I've processed this image but naked eye it's still very
stunning to see it as it's rolled over to this is the Northeast here and it's rolled over
Behind These mesas and you could sit and just stare at it for
as long as you want when you're in dark enough Skies it is very impressive
and again it's you know the core is nice but Milky Way season does not end when
the core goes down and as you can see from this shot this
is a winter it's a winter shot and you do have to be dressed accordingly but
here in Michigan you can get lucky and capture um
we talk about the Stellar Wind well one of the effects that we haven't really
talked about is Aurora as the Earth's magnetosphere captures it depend it may
either absorb it or you know ionize the atmosphere
from the Stellar Wind and you begin to see some Aurora and there aren't many ways
to see both the Aurora and the Milky Way this is one of the ways you can see it
if it happens to be going off toward the north the North Star is if I'm not
mistaken this star um
I could be mistaken but I do believe it's either this star or it's over here try to Plate solve all of these stars
and when you do you find that the North Star is not far from here and therefore any auroral activity is also going to be
intersecting with this part of the Milky Way it will also intersect with the
Cassiopeia Andromeda region which I call it that because
the constellation Cassiopeia is here constellation of Andromeda and there's galaxy
that goes by the same name there's m33 this star cluster which I keep calling
752 but I don't know that that's true or not it is a faint region
but has a few well-known Astro targets
visual targets like the double cluster Astro targets like the heart and the Soul nebula
and I'll Point those out there's the double cluster here there's the heart and the soul
and um nice so those of us in the northern
hemisphere our versions of the Southern Cross and
the and Centaurus are Ursa Major Ursa Minor here's the
North Star here here is what we cut part of Ursa Major the asterism at least most
of them one of the Al Qaeda is missing off to the side the Big Dipper is right here at this Lighthouse you've got the
Andromeda region of the Milky Way Andromeda then driving the Galaxy is up this way
and we have this region with the when I say this way that way
there's a big dipper there's the heart and soul there's double cluster
and nightscape artists love to shoot the poor this is another view of the core
when I went to the northern part 43rd parallel in Michigan
what are the two parts of Scorpius this is in the summer in June you can still
into summer when the main core is out
this region is um on the opposite side and here
we have Aurora which I did not see naked eye but when I
put the camera to it it picked up the uh greens and magenta that is beautiful
look at that yes there's the Big Dipper again my
original reasoning for this shot was simply to give part of Ursa Major some love and this
part of the Galaxy some love this is in the northern hemisphere this is one way
you can have the Milky Way galaxy a part of the
Milky Way galaxy and the Aurora and you see these dark clouds so you know that this is maybe a low Portal 2 high Portal
3 Zone here still beautiful still dark up here and yes I
I love the picture just for the simple fact I didn't see it naked eye a lot of
you out there still watching this and want to see Aurora if you live to the
north sometimes the Aurora is there right under your nose Stellar Wind that we
were talking about is coming in the earth is doing its thing but if unless
it's a very high KP level in the magnetic field of the earth is set up
right it doesn't become naked eye but
at a certain level it becomes camera visible and you know with a 30 second
exposure on your camera you may end up getting
these you know these pinkish and dark green regions and you see the
difference between the Aurora color and some of the sky glow that we're
getting into here we've got Sky glow in Aurora in the same shot
so that turned out to be you know an even more
comprehensive shot later on to brighten these trees a bit
but I'm happy with it's like a rainbow that goes on the entire night sky
Adriana is something that you can see I know that when you are go to Finland or
to the more to the north you can see that over your head the Aurora yeah and
it's really magic but in your latitude you have in your pictures but you can
see something to The Naked Eyes or is something that
only appear in your picture so in this case you could not see it
naked eye but when the storm is intense enough you can you guessed so
yeah I will oh that green part that I'm highlighting here you can see that naked
eye if the storm is intense enough but if it's not
then only by camera would you be able to see it and know that the um that there's
you know Aurora is visible and it would be similar that the Aurora Australis the
difference between northern and southern hemisphere is that becomes the galactic
center
yes in our in our of course it's impossible to to our Continental part is
in South America it's impossible to see what a
Aurora's South Australia so yes because
um we don't have uh nothing uh to the South uh despite
our southern city I know that they never
uh they never watched because
it's not so near to the South Pole yes yeah it's it's a little maybe Hawaii is
like uh you know boss Thomas or a little more you know latitude yeah yeah we're a
little closer to the North Pole it's kind of middle yes I understand yes yes yep so sometimes the Aurora Santa Claus
is starting yeah it can be seen on the distant Horizon right there and it's it's an amazing yes it's amazing for
reasonably it's something that I need to know is maybe in this latitude where you
took the picture where you live uh because it's it's for me is Magic it's
something that I have you know sometimes you hear right expectative in your life
maybe for some people just watch the they feel Tower and other people say
okay for me is why
yeah if you if you travel to the equivalent latitude in the South I think
that's when Aurora Australis would uh you might possibly catch a glimpse along
that Horizon yes always for us I also think it's
how the Earth is tilted as well whether there's going to be more
um particles more solar wind hitting the uh Southern pole as opposed to the
northern pole yeah like right now I think it's more absolutely and the southern pole have a lower storm uh
storm solar storms um we don't have cities near to the to the
yeah so it's it's impossible yes Antarctica sure yeah so that's it 24
years and you know that it's really far far
from this yeah so Paul
that's something we probably shouldn't take for granted that you know our
latitude there's some amazing things we can see so we don't miss out on everything
um you know and of course we just had the uh discussion about the star party
in the you know near the Florida Keys where some of the uh southern hemisphere
parts of the Milky Way are visible just not the magellanic clouds so you know you still I still have to come
to Argentina I've been working on my passport so that I can uh right right
you are welcome yes advise me because I I go to the airport uh to carry you came
from buenos Australia and start to to have fun right yes so um
yeah at any rate
54.50 yeah 50. so here's a region that's coming up that I like to discuss and let
me see if I can I'll see if I can quickly go through it because you know it is rather late the winter maker Orion
um this part of the Milky Way is Orion himself is getting more popular
amongst Astro imagers and Landscape Aster imagers where they're taking a
huge you know a huge section of Orion and all of the nebulae around and
posting it as a um backdrop for some sort of nature
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field and especially during the times we usually go to the Oaky Tech star party in Kent and the zodiacal light becomes
real easy to see now this part of the Milky Way that bright star is
um in Canis Major that is uh serious that is procyon that is Pollux and
Castor and then on up Gemini that may be um
in fact it is it's in auriga the um that is Capella and that you know the rest we
can't see here but down here so
next time I'll have to remember to put this on a different screen serious procyon Pollux caster
um capella down here through these rocks and through the bottom of this
um on one side or the another it's so different for me yes I think you think
you what yes it's I'm not sure because this is upside down when you see it yes but
that's where the magellanic clouds would be if we could see through the Earth
we would see the uh small and large magellanic clouds they don't rise high
enough yeah um even down in the Florida Keys they don't rise high enough
further evidence that the Earth is round is round yeah absolutely so that's the I
would consider the magellanic cloud part of the Milky Way a region and the CR
Southern Cross as a region as well so that's but and that's where the entire
um Galactic the galactic center and the parts of the galactic arm that we can
see all tie together at Orion if you were able to see it in a
continuous Circle and there are some imagers that have gone to the northern and southern hemispheres and created an
image like that it basically runs from Orion through this large and small
magellanic Cloud through the area with the coal Sac Ada Karen a the
um the Southern Cross and um Alpha
Centaurus the um Centaurus constellation comes back up
and um hit the uh the southern bulge comes back
up to the center and then through the cygnus region the Lacerta Cassiopeia
Perseus and then on down back to the Orion region that is the entire Milky
Way and uh we see four regions of it here in
the Northern Hemisphere and it's fantastic that you can see in your winter or our summer the the Milky Way
the Orion iron that this is beautiful because you are watching uh outside the
Galaxy with the arm yeah and this magic really in the our last star party in
katamarca was very nice to watch
um the Milky Way arm of Oreo oreom arm yes and it's it's something that is
beautiful um you took a picture to where in in your pictures uh I could see the the big
nebula they've I think this is
something fantastic because it's so huge our sky in
you you always conservative in show this part of the sky that this is really it's
really amazing if this is these are the last few slides that I end on because
this is a part of the sky that I would love to see more work done not just the
big bright you know the nebula that you can get here this entire region is kind
of my challenge to those of you who do um landscape astrophotography and you
you know you frame it against some beautiful foreground areas here
I challenge you know I challenge everyone to shoot this region you know
see what we can do with it because it is an absolute beautiful region
this is um this is that region I had just shown you the region as it
looks in a bortal high Portal 2 and close to a border one zone but when you
move forward to Portal 3 and portal 4 you can still get it
yeah it is glow Sky glow and light pollution glow but you can still get
these this done fabulous I I just shove you I just showed you uh
if you if you like an actor your presentation yeah a very short small
part that that I I don't found if it's got a grip only
two minutes you can watch the opposite of this that this is a very polluted maybe nine
mortal nine disguise but very Enthusiast people watching the
moon and watching the the Mars and hoping uh but this is amazing
because um the the level of different bottles case in the same picture
is something that you can watch a whole part of the sky disappear
um part of the sky it's are in in uh amazing what and you can see something
that normally is impossible to see I I think all is from from a Michigan Lake
yeah this is the one from the dark but is it from the other yeah
how much more detail and then as I go down uh you know progressively yeah because
they have cities in in yeah their City here yeah you know more bright City
Light so it you know and you can see the sky color is a little different too yeah
four to one area you know it's got kind of a metallic gray ish blue but then you go in here I got
Sky glow you know this is a similarly the sky is
pretty good but it's knocked down a couple border levels because of the The
Horizon here and then um you know one level below that this is this is the the
level of the center is yep there's that uh no no this is this
one I know I'm sorry because that's not the Lagoon but this is Mars
sure and Mars is uh front and center yes yes I have I have some pictures these
are very recent photos that's Mars This is Mars this photo Mars was not to be
found maybe two weeks ago yeah but it's here now
I don't know I have an image in fact because I did take this region
I'll have to go back through the slides because I may I may have Mars in a more recent shot for me
yes yes I understood completely because yes absolutely I'll show you the picture
in opposite yeah so I'll go ahead and I'll end it here that's me looking at
that region wow there's Mars and Orion is trying to
rise maybe have one two weeks your picture only maybe one one week because
yes stop the share
all right so great wow thank you um
Cesar you're gonna go ahead and show your image right I
guess God if it's okay I don't yeah of course yes it's if it's the the few pictures that I
I lost in my presentation because I I couldn't show you
you can see I started last uh last week uh watching uh present
um thought of my friend astrophysics Gabriel wegochea in the
planetarium planetarium city of uh Buenos Aires
and this is a video of the last uh Noche
de los libros in San Miguel and this is the stand of San Miguel Observatory
um yes we yeah TV that is not watching
football right now yes yes without football without soccer yes we receive a
lot of people that that were they were very interested in oh is the moon it's a
live image you know and we use uh Scott uh you can see that we we use it
um I think yes yes ex is 100 uh the model of Newtonian
um um this was yeah it's very absolutely was
very nice that really we we only we make the polar alignment with the cell phone
um we use the telescope in time now to
show um to show um image of of uh who Peter Mars and
moon this is another part of the observatory
and this one was really really very interesting one telescope we started
with a camera another telescope to watch we put another telescope more in another
side of a National Geographic telescope very very entry level with two
volunteers and the people really enjoy it to see the moon who picked Mars
um really really was a interesting
an interesting activity yes every every year we may make this and this year we
use we use this telescope for us was new and really we we enjoyed a lot share
with the people you know um was a great a great experience
I hear I don't know if there's a rhyme yeah yes maybe you can see he's upside
down yes this is in the CP in in this area this area is an our
ecological Park we was riding by riding a bike with my uh with with my friends
and in this part you have a part uh
by growth or I don't know how do you say busy said that we call it a a role for
the for the bikes in the city and this part is a part that is is facing to the
to the east to the river but this area is full of of snake uh birds and it's
like uh it's an ecological research I see and it's very nice because they say
okay stop stop we can make pictures we rather 41 kilometers around 30 miles
driving bike it is this uh Sunday at night afternoon night
and we stopped to say okay I need to stop to take this picture to show with the cell
phone and here you can see the players yeah
ours Orion yes and
this is why I when I I watch your pictures I say okay this isn't the
opposite side yeah so for you everything I showed was upside down yeah
yeah really yeah I think was the the things that I I was I was interested in
sharing with with you yeah um really really I enjoyed this and and
your pictures are magics and yes I appreciate it consciously you renew your
your collection of pictures and when you say okay you have new pictures because
Mars is in the in the same position that I show you in my picture yes and my
picture is from this Sunday yeah right um
it's always interesting when the planets make appearances you can almost tell the year that certain images were shot based
on the position of the planets yeah um yes that's it's yeah and even based
on the position of where the Moon is the you know the one image I didn't put in
the presentation but I showed earlier where yes the settings when the Ryan is
setting or getting ready to start setting yeah sure yes our perception of of the things when
we love astronomy is different I'm taking lessons of Yachts yeah of
sailing now um they have a to take to take uh the
lesson in the in the right in the river they have a you need to to take your
reservations uh your reserve reservation by by uh by
phone you know about internet and uh many people uh go when the the diet
is very low and particularly in our in our River we don't have water we have
really very small small um a quantity of uh how do you say I I
forget the name of of uh that
you know but the first thing that I I the the different thing that I
understand is that I remember where the Moon is and my my my first thing that I I
understood the people told me ah when you when you came here ever ever we have
water we have a high high tides yes because I I the first thing that I think
is see the titles uh tables I say because I
think in the in the moon in the sun where is because I love astronomy I I
like really uh and it's not only see the the because it's not only see they they
you know the the application if not first of all say Okay I I choose the
days and the hour where do you have a where you can found for example New Moon
A New Moon over your head you have a lot of water in the river
you know and then yes you have and yes I started to talk with the people said no
it's not only me and how do you say because yes every time I I watch the
picture and say okay Mars is here uh you yes you can lie you go to to show you
can do the same thing with um your view of Orion
um is Herald of Summer yeah Ryan is Harold of winter and in fact indigenous
uh tribes you know one that I put in the the name winter maker yes it was a um
you know it was just recognizing that when that group of stars came comes up absolutely Northern Hemisphere we get
snow but you see the same grouping of stars yes and it's time to get the same
kind of throws you off literally yeah
totally when I watched the first time the first day that I watched Orion in
the in the sky here in the I feel stressed because I know that
Christmas is coming the end of the year is coming you know I feel stressful
because say oh the year is is finished almost over yes and this year with a
World Cup it's terrible yes good for me
something that is a ceramic uh it's a it's an astronomical sensation it's a
modern astronomy because as you say well when you can see your real say okay I
need to finish the my objective for this year because the end of the year is
coming it's near right it's a sensation that for another people
that don't think many people sometimes say okay why I can I can see Orion the
the three you know the three stars three stars in the in summer or here yeah
we'll get asked Can we see the Orion Nebula and say it's not up yet depending on you know when the core is visible the
galactic core is visible to us well scorpion when the Scorpion's visible to us Orion
and yet you know we'll have people come and say can we see the Orion Nebula look
at our clocks and say yeah if you want to be up at five in the morning oh by the way the Sun's shining through it but
now you know there are certain times especially March and September
where if they come to say you want to see the Orion Nebula we can say well
yeah you just have to be up at four in the morning but then you'll see it so there are times when yes yes
is absolutely or for me feel the end of the the my kids vacations where I need
to go again not now because they are two of my three kids are really
big now but it's I remember to say okay
this Orion in the in the in the afternoon in the evening of the day
going to the to the to the Horizon and you felt another things about the time
and this is when you compare the things of the of the Asian asean
populations where say they really went to the start in another way maybe we
will watch at the start because they say Okay I I you understand that that is
time of the Milky Way in summer or or winter
um we really we are awaiting uh for a picture the different size the different
shape of the Milky Way um but sometimes the feeling is about
the time the time the time of the year okay I see Aryan I need to put my my
taxes in yes I need to pay my taxes because yeah so we are in the sky yes
this is the kind of the streets the last time yes yes uh and uh yeah
the sensation of the sky are a particularly going to show you
something in the time and I am only an amateur Stormer but with the people that
that in the past the Asian people that all people reading the reading the
the the night sky because they watch a lot of stars and and they it
in some in some kind of things and maybe in some ways of of things maybe they the
the ascent people was smarter that the media the culture media of today if you
think maybe something like this I think we'll we'll cover getting the messages
to the media in another star party uh because we'll have Scott up all night if
we talk about that's right yeah accurate information
yes it's time for dinner it's better in different countries but it is not it is
common for some of these things to be over sensationalized and put in the
Public's mind like a day before the event happens so yeah that that might be
another discussion those of you still watching and listening may agree or disagree but um
astronomy depends on what you can see so the days don't change the lunar eclipse
didn't change so that it could happen on a clear day and that's something that especially
here in the states it's becoming harder and harder to explain to the general public that uh
there are certain things that don't bend to your will one is whether or not your sports team always wins and two is
whether or not you'll see any meteors where you are yes
yes gotta miss it you know you can't imagine all that what's more difficult
playing things to the to the Elder and to other people that kids kids in the in
the in the pictures that I saw I the kids have the the right idea of all
things whether the kids more the ask me question was more ah yes this is
the moon and this is the part of the Moon and this is you know hoping that I hope it was okay
older people like our age like me I have 55 come out yes we why when we
when we lose the connection with the the things this is this is incredible yeah
well Scott thank you guys thank you thank you very much because
uh it's got this every night of This Global
yeah it says I appreciate you
um and um Dr Marcelo who had to drop off because it gave us a chance to sort of
explain on a holistic level well here are the four sides we can see in the northern
hemisphere for many I think they'll say well that's all there is I love the fact that we can say well no
there's way more than that and you know here's somebody who didn't grow up seeing these regions there are a couple
of regions that you didn't grow up seeing but you grew up seeing regions that we don't get to see from our live
stream here so it's it ties it all together I think that's a wonderful that's a wonderful way of explaining
exactly what the global stuff yes yes absolutely I'll prepare with you all that you need
at Marcelo it's a place it's it's a a place it's a pleasure it will be
absolutely absolutely yes yes absolutely yes yeah it's um I know when I started
when I started Global star party I was trying to recreate the feeling of a star
party you know because we were under lockdown during coven but after doing and we've done over a
hundred of them we'll be a 109 Global star parties next Tuesday
uh you know what I'm left with is is that it's a unique way of doing a star
party you know it's a unique one um we do have uh people showing us live
images through their telescopes from time to time all kinds of wonderful presentations some of them are very
science related uh you know maybe deep science uh some are great
um descriptions of what we uh have seen but maybe we don't know a lot about you
know so it's really cool to have somebody like Dave Iker really show us some you know hidden gems of the sky and
tell us what's going on in these areas and the history behind it you know and then we have people that give us the
feeling and the Art of this you know and then and uh you know Adrian men's work
is uh is beautiful you know these nightscape images are beautiful
um uh but not not pure you know just uh Art For Art's Sake uh you know Adrian is
is learning about the sky he's exploring the universe through his images uh and
he's he's taken us on that Journey with him you know which is really cool and he's encouraging and showing other people how to do this you know so that's
all very interesting to me and um you know I get to do it of course from my
office here at explore scientific but uh it's it's been it's been a real pleasure
I will keep on doing them uh because I think it's important to bring uh the
global audience together we have also and when I say Global audience we have people in Europe in Asia
um you know in the Middle East uh northern southern hemisphere they're
they're watching they're sharing um and these shows of course are preserved on social media and people go
back and watch them again and again so um you know how else how else could you
do this you know so this is the way so um but uh being added a real star party
when I say real star party you're actually under the sky uh with your
friends but you can mix these things too you can have a show like Global Star Party playing in
the background chatting with people that are watching your uh you know your conversations all over the world while
you're observing at night you know so this is kind of a cool thing so if you
can switch some of your uh actual stargazing experience to Tuesday nights uh you'd have a better chance of doing
that but our program of course is not the only one that's doing this but uh we
might be one of the longest running ones at this point so yeah so anyways I really do appreciate
uh you coming on um Adrian Caesar Daniel I I see you're
back there in the background so um thanks again to the presenters thanks again to uh our audience
um uh this Saturday we had intended we were trying to do a astrophotography
workshop for planetary astrophotography it might get canceled off until the
following Saturday the presenters none other than Christopher go who's uh world
famous planetary uh astrophotographer and he wanted to show live
um uh you know uh views through his telescope of Mars but
also how he captures Mars with his telescope and now the image processes that so watch for
um an announcement either for this Saturday which would happen I think at like
8 A.M something like that uh central time uh you know it's going to be
nighttime of course in the Philippines where Christopher go is um and uh and then it's being presented
to a class actually a group in Armenia but we're going to broadcast it of
course on social media as well so people all over the world can watch it and so
that's that's the deal um uh almost every day now we've been
running um uh programs where we show you we take some of the explore scientific product
line and we the show is that we open it out of the box we assemble it in front
of you and you know give you uh tips on how to use it so that's something you
can watch for those are running about 2 p.m Central almost every day live and so
that's another thing and then we've got um shows that as I can put them together
called Eclipse experience and that those shows are to prepare you for the 2023
annular eclipse and the 2024 total eclipse and so we've got some we've got
some great people lined up for that the next one on my list uh for that is Dr
Ralph Chow who's a world expert on uh solar filters and eye safety so
uh he's out of uh out of Canada so we're looking forward to that but that's
that's our programming and we'll see you tomorrow thanks very much
thank you thank you have a good night everyone good morning everyone good morning good
morning good job uh midday good day yes yes
okay all right take care guys
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