Global Star Party 123

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so when does the Nancy Roman telescope go up does anyone know
I'm not sure um I heard it was a repurposed military telescope originally am I correct in
that I don't know it sounds right to me
but that's repurposing uh military stuff into
science stuff is always good so yeah I agree I agree it's alleged to be May
2027 but obviously that's you know that
far out it's gonna slide okay that's true
okay here we go [Music]
one of the big terms that people always use is Mars is going to Mars and so you have to have a system that's robust to
whatever Mars is going to do [Music]
one of the main things we do on Mars with perseverance is a collect core samples package them into tubes and
store them in the Rover so that they're available to return to Earth in the future
[Music] we've collected a whole variety of
different types of rocks each can tell us something different about ours if for whatever reason over the next 10
years there's any sort of failure or perseverance where we can't do a direct transfer to the the return Mission then
we need to have some sample tubes placed on the surface to be collected by the future mission [Music]
people are talking in the room there seems to be another image
congratulations everybody [Applause]
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this is the backup option for picking up the samples it's a massive milestone
it's a big day it's really a wonderful moment made possible not just by the
sampling and cache team but by the team as well and it's pretty great okay I
think I have to stop now when it works on another planet you
can't really use words to express that feeling of joy and pride and satisfaction and to do it with teammates
that you've gotten to know really well and respect a lot is just priceless
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[Music] hey everybody I hope you're ready for
another Global star party this is our 123rd event and uh so we have a
wonderful lineup uh a new face and um I
hope you really enjoy it this the theme of This Global star party is Charlotte Reflections and I kind of find that
that's what a lot of amateur astronomers eventually they'll reflect on kind of
the experience of it and the feeling of it and you know for some of us it's kind
of hard for us to put into words but uh our our uh our presenters really do
their best job in trying to do so uh if you haven't noticed they were right out
in front of the sports scientific building today where we broadcast uh simulcast all over the world on social
media channels but uh I found this really cool quote from
Nikita Gill and Nikita says that we have calcium in our bones iron in our veins
carbon in our souls and nitrogen in our brains we're 93 Stardust we should be made of
flames we are all just stars that have people's names I love that that's cool
anyways uh starting uh kicking off a global star party in 123 uh will be
David Levy who is going to introduce a friend uh Mark zadarski hopefully I
didn't ruin that name but uh anyways he's never been on global star party before and he's going to be talking
about the Adirondack astronomy retreat David eicher is continuing a series of
uh of Dave's exotic deep Sky objects with the dusty hand Galaxy Tara Lord
president of the astronomical League will be joining us for a little while uh to talk about the league and anything
else that's on his mind Maxie filari is with his astrophotography to the max he'll be on
and then we're going to take a 10 minute break and we'll come back with Connell Richards and connell's Cosmos Robert
Reeves and Postcards From the moon now then sentel Kumar uh young
astronomer uh I might have mentioned that Navin and his father went to the Northeast astronomy for him and I was
happy to meet him in person so that was really cool Adrian Bradley uh in chasing
Dark Skies um with his amazing uh nightscape
photography John Schwartz and drawing out the universe and Cesar brolo will wrap it up with us about the red carbon
star Dy crusies anyways I'm really happy that you guys have decided to tune in
tonight and uh we'll take it away [Music] thank you here we are uh everyone uh
it's great to be back again on Tuesday night for Global star party and we are
here with a great lineup of speakers as usual I think I put I put in that our
speakers uh our astronomers are actually astronomers that that are made of Stardust I just thought I'd point that
out so anyhow if that wasn't obvious to you
no one does an introduction like that sorry guys anyways let's get started by our first
astronomer made of Stardust and that would be David Levy David thanks for
coming on to Global star party thank you before I start I started Scotty is it
possible that you could send me a recording of last week's GSB because I
kind of like to listen to part of it of course of course I could okay
okay one of the things that Scott and I were talking about was that for the
poetic reading I asked him permission to read Wendy amongst the Stars again
because I've done some uh tweaking to it and I'd like to give it another shot
and uh Scotty's reaction was you don't have to ask me to do that of course you can do
that so here I'm doing that the rhyme schemes for this poem I chose the
Tennyson in memoriam stanza and uh here is the poem that I wrote
during the day of extraordinary depression a couple of weeks ago and I've been
tweaking it ever since each day I awake today is today I look
towards her she is not there my heart goes on but do I care well
anything anything let in a ring the night is dark as dark as cold
the sky is stars from west to east from south to North just like a feast a pill
have been sent to call my soul a telescope stands stands and waits for
my eye it asks just one brief look forward through space like an open book
and back through time open wide Escape I see a star why is it there
lapis philosophorum Philosopher's Stone that strikes the night it ushers me home as part of a pattern
to learn I dare but the reason not general relativity gravity's geometry no
Speck of thought no idea Works no system but a newborn thought of creativity
she's a part of me a beam of light amongst the stars in the sky a star not
there but there her soul so far from grief to Joy all through the night
and now I'm going to introduce a real pleasure to introduce a dear friend Mark
zadorski I have known him for years because we uh we have been together at the
Adirondack astronomy Retreat since it started a lot of years ago
in a way it started in 1964 on a summer camp the Adirondack science camp I was
there and fell in love with the place I would say about 50 nanoseconds after I arrived that I
never lost Madeline is held near Lewis New York just south of
Plattsburgh uh coincidentally it is going to be in the path of the total solar eclipse next
year Trump quite probably sold a lot of clouds but uh it is in the back
and uh what we do now is we have every summer a retreat there and the spirit of the
retreat is to remind ourselves why we became observers and passions about this guy in
the first place and Mark has given a number of presentations about the retreat and it
is my deep honor now to introduce Mark to talk about this year's coming up Adirondack astronomy retreat
hi David thank you very much um yes as uh David says I've been going
to this Retreat uh for many years and it has a very uh special place in my heart
um so without further Ado I'll just see if I can share my screen and
we'll start talking about the retreat
okay here we go so it's uh now been renamed
the uh David and Wendy Levy Adirondack astronomy treat in honor of Wendy
um so it's a summer astronomy vacation um so the whole point the whole idea
just as David said um is to go and uh
find out the reason we find out the reason why we became astronomers in the
first place um I also like to uh dedicate this talk uh to Wendy uh because without her
um this Retreat wouldn't have become the very special thing uh that it has become
and without her her effort and her friendship and her love um this this Retreat would not have been
the um or at would have been as special as it is uh today
so as David loves to say uh we go up there to recharge our astronomical
batteries we go up uh and we observe under our dark sky we relax
um many of us uh do astronomy Outreach and we we work with the public all the time which is you know what we love to
do but sometimes we want to go and observe uh for ourselves
um and not that we don't love newcomers we always do but it is a quiet place to
go up there observe with friends uh and just you know be under a pristine sky at
least for the East Coast anyway so yes uh they Retreat started back in
2004 uh I started going there around the year 2010 if memory serves uh and yes uh
David has uh childhood ties to the camp uh and uh this became an astronomy
vacation for uh many of us and as many of us know that uh David uh
uh was co-discover of the uh Shoemaker Levy nine comic uh and this year is a
kind of special it's the 30th anniversary of the discovery of uh
Shoemaker leaving nine interrupt you for just two seconds yes would you imagine the uh Discovery events online this is
one of the films that we took that night that has the discovery image of
Shoemaker leaving 9 on it oh wow I thought I'd show it to you oh we need to preserve that in some way
that would be wonderful um yeah
um so where is it located uh so it's uh Twin Valley campsite uh up
in it's owned by SUNY Plattsburgh so I'm by uh State University in New York
um it's sponsored by uh one of the astronomy clubs I belong to the nurtures the astronomical group uh and so the if
you would look at it for an address it would be located in uh Westport New York or Lewis New York depending on what
Google search you do but it's right on the border of the of the two uh two municipalities
um so the uh if you're coming from you know a major metropolitan areas like you know
New York City uh it is a four to five hour drive depending on uh how leisurely
you go up there um but it's also you know accessible pretty easily from many of the
neighboring states um so many of us also are come from
Canada uh so I'm from Montreal it's about an hour and 45 minutes or so but
when you get there and you come up to Twin valleys uh twin valleys Road um you'll come all the way to the top of
the road and you'll see the observing field uh and the main cabin where you
check in and all of the uh small uh cabins that are that line the observing
field uh in the background what time of year well obviously uh we
want to go and if when there's no moon because you want to go for uh um the uh the dark sky and usually it's
in July and August and this year it's still uh between July 16th and the 23rd
and so we have uh technically uh it's two sessions and you can combine them
for the whole week many of us do uh particularly in the Northeast because we have uh Cloudy Skies so often
um but we also have activities in the afternoon uh talks and all night dark
sky observing um so if you do come um just remember
um that the retreat one starts from Sunday to Wednesday Retreat two is
Thursday to Sunday now if people ask what happens to Wednesday Wednesday is called an interim day so that's kind of
a day where um you know the people from the first Retreat are leaving and then then the
second Retreat May begin on Thursday uh but many folks decide to add that day
on there um so on the interim day there usually aren't
any talks but we often go to the uh Star Trek tour in Ticonderoga which is quite
wonderful um accommodations um this is an interesting Star Party most star parties uh you are camping out
uh under Stars you bring your own tent uh here we have
um you can bring a tent if you wish uh but we do have uh 12 cabins we also have
in the main tab in the main main building uh men's and women's dorms uh
and so we have full bathrooms and showers and a kitchen uh which is kind of nice
um believe it or not it's a little it's a little bit more cozy than uh you know laying on the uh the hard ground
um the cabins can sleep up to six um they also in particularly if you come
in a family or a group um you will basically put you all together so you don't have to worry
about you know uh sleeping in different quarters and whatnot um so this is kind of what it looks like
on the inside um usually there's only one or two people per cabin uh we don't go crazy
overcrowding the place but we can they can hold up to six people
um and this is what it looks like uh inside the main hall uh this is where we eat we have our talks
um and we plan our activities uh for the day uh so the food schedule which is quite
wonderful um um we're late risers so breakfast is 10 in the morning uh you know we have a
light lunch around one o'clock and uh dinner at uh 6 p.m
uh and all night long uh there are snacks and coffee in the main Lodge for uh people
who do do their all night observing you can come in and take a break from all that
uh the meals are included um the breakfasts and dinners are
catered by Chartwells the lunch is kind of a light lunch prepared by uh some of the the regulars uh usually uh Lori and
Patrice uh sometimes myself um but the catered food is has gone a
step up especially last year when we started the retreat again first time after covid um they've hired Gourmet
chefs and this you know before um they would bring pre-prepared food now they prepare it in front of you
there in our own uh in our own kitchen which is quite nice uh what do you do when it's rainy or
cloudy so obviously there's no observing um but uh attend easel bring movies or
music you know a lot of singing going on uh we also do impromptu presentations
and trivia games there's always something to do um ask photographers who may have done
some Imaging the night before uh they'll get a chance to show their images to the uh to the group as well at least they're
raw images hiking um also you know usually on the interim
day some of us will go hiking or if it's we know it's going to be cloudy during evening we'll go and take a hike but
there's there's plenty Trails on the site and they are taken care of by uh SUNY Plattsburgh themselves
uh the talks and presentations are quite varied um and they can be you know quite data
driven and Technical um like some on spectroscopy and and whatnot and some can be very
experiential in nature and uh there's something for everyone with all these talks
um so here's just a couple examples um some folks will give a talk about their astronomy vacation at uh doing
auroras um sometimes we'll do things about meteorites poetry and everything in
between uh so the one thing we like to do on the
interim day is take a 40-minute drive to Ticonderoga uh to the Star Trek
Experience which is kind of a Star Trek Recreation Museum tour uh and sometimes
some of the Next Generation cast members and original series cast members will be there to sign autographs from time to
time but uh you get to go through and tour the entire uh Enterprise uh and
some of the pieces there are original pieces for instance the harp in the meeting room is actually an original
piece and it's signed by all the original series cast members it's pretty amazing to see
so back on the grounds um on site we do have a uh
uh 14 inch meat Schmidt Casa green which uh well it's 200 which we actually got
working again last year uh so that's available for attendees to use uh we'll
also uh try some electronic assisted astronomy out of that telescope this year
um essentially it's those unfamiliar with it it's similar to video astronomy where he was an astronomy camera and you
bring down images on a screen um we'll do them inside the observatory and not outside as to uh not blind
anyone out there obviously um but it's still going to be an interesting experience
so the observing field shows all the directions quite well um depending on where you set up uh and
uh so going back to this you know satellite image most people here tend to set up
near the main this main observing Field Road right here on either side of the of
the um of the pond uh South is kind of this direction Here If You Can See My My by
by the main Lodge and North is kind of up by these cabins over here generally speaking
um most of your Milky Way photographers and when I get Milky Way shots uh tend
to go in this back area over here behind the pond you get a really really uh good view of the Milky Way
um but there's you know plenty of room for everyone on this field
so again it's a place to where friends meet and relax um 30 years you get to look through
other people's telescopes of varying types and sizes
um and uh it's it's quite the relaxing experience
also um we have a 16-inch dobsonian uh for
attendees to use it was donated by skywatcher USA uh with one caveat uh in
the middle of the night you'll find David looking searching for comets so he he gets first dibs without anyone uh
also speaking of David if you ask him nicely he will go and sign your telescope for you
um in fact I think a attendee brought one of the explore scientific comment
Hunters uh last year and David saw that it touched his heart and he signed it
right away it was quite nice um so getting down to observing uh how
do you do that in in in this type of climate so we tend to set up uh once
just for the for the whole week you know or for half the retreat without however long you stay
um how do we do that so a little bit of preparation is uh always uh helpful here
so things that you want to bring um some extra tarps to the ground and for
your telescope uh obviously bug spray because um there's lots of mosquitoes uh
potentially depending on uh the temperature um both warm and cool weather close
um because I've it is in the Adirondacks it's generally not uh it's generally not oppressively hot but we have had 90
degree days in in the past and we've had days where it was up in the upper 40s in
the past so I would say you know prepare for low 50s at night you know and
um prepare for you know 80s in the afternoon uh bring a
12 volt power supply some extension cords uh yes you can plug in uh there's
electrical outlets by The Observatory and some of the cabins will run cords which will help and make sure you bring
do prevention um this play this site is notorious for having
um lots of uh condensation so if you have a casa grain telescope or anything
along those uh you know with a large lens that's you know uh not uh doesn't
have a do shield and even if you do have a dew Shield you want to make sure you have uh
um a dew heater also uh telegizmos cover for your telescope uh sunscreen uh
pillows and sheets for the cabin and a red flashlight um we don't we don't look we don't want
to have a white uh light on uh observing nights particularly when it's clear outside uh that will ruin your dark
adaptation um also you'll notice in the large picture at the bottom you see these
tents and those are actually not people camping those are garage tents um so some folks will use them uh to
store their equipment their eyepieces and then from the weather uh and the Astro imagers will actually go in there
and put their computers in there a little table uh so they can not disturb
the visual observers so it's just uh just so you get the idea of you know you know some common courtesy there
um some other accessories so this was you know a few of us set up we put our tarps together but you can see there's a
tarp on the ground and uh the tarps over the telescopes a
telegues most cover right uh if you happen to have a mass-produced dobsonian
with particle board uh I highly recommend having a tarp beneath the telescope as well as putting one above
it uh the reason for that if it does rain uh water can sometimes get trapped
underneath the tarp right um so the idea here if you see this little picture you will fold up the
lower tarp underneath the upper tarp and bungee corded no water will get in and it'll preserve your telescope
just some you know tips from people that have been doing this for a long time things you pick up and you learn the
hard way so this site is is got very little light pollution where bortal two three
particularly if you're looking South and West it's definitely you know you're looking into a um a a rural Sky if
you're looking north and east there is a small light Dome you can see in the picture down here uh down below that's
uh Burlington in the distance there but uh overall not that obtrusive
um so what can you see at a sky a dark sky site like this in the in the Northeast
well if you're used to White pollution if you look at hypothetically you look at m42 and you can see it here late in
August in the early morning if you're in a you know uh an urban area
or suburban area you can barely see the nebulosity maybe right near the trapezium right uh that AAR uh I've seen
it you know through my 12-inch top with all the tendrils and the nebulosity and
and it's just expansive and beautiful and it's just a visual observation uh not a photographic one it's you know so
take that and and run with it so if you're an imager all of your images
will be much shorter uh and you're uh your exposures will be shorter and the objects will show a lot
more detail um the Milky Way is abundant here uh I've
seen my shadow from Venus which is uh pretty astounding that surprised me
um we do get some meteor showers a lot of robes but also the Ada Aquarius particularly towards the end of July
uh we sometimes see um dim comets just ask David what's you
know possibly up and he may be able to point the way to you know you know a 12th magnitude uh comet
um so all the things you see at you know your Suburban Sky or your low-hanging
fruit uh star clusters globular clusters nebulae
um where they would be averted Vision these are mostly direct Vision uh so
it's that little light pollution um all of your you know Lagoon trifid
Swan um and uh the veil in particular you
know use an O3 filter um are astounding matter of fact my favorite view of the veil came through
our friend David rossiter's uh 25 inch Obsession uh I will never forget that
image in my mind and so the closest thing I can come to it is this color picture up here
um a picture of that in black and white and that's pretty much what I saw through the uh through the eyepiece uh
in his telescope you know galaxies m33 you can see that
without Optical Aid uh on a really good night uh M31 uh instead of just seeing
the core you'll see dust Lanes even in a smaller scope an 8 inch scope we'll uh
show that to you uh also I'd advise make an observing
list uh because all of your IC objects NGC objects uh will be uh available to
you to see visually so uh we also do group pictures so um
both Retreats get a group picture which is kind of nice and the whole group gets uh sent that
and uh just to reiterate this year the dates are um Sunday July 16th uh through
Sunday July 23rd and there is a registration link if you decide you want to go and register uh
it's Adirondack astronomyretreat dot squarespace.com
um so that'll take you to the the registrations fighting uh SUNY
Plattsburgh takes care of the uh the registration um how much does it cost
um it does each Retreat for adults are about 330 dollars
um if you take the whole Retreat it's 710 but that also includes meals on the interim day
um so for children it's it's cheaper obviously you know 12 and under uh 165
uh per Retreat uh and um that
coming to the conclusion so it's a week of astronomy in a uh dark sky uh for the
East Coast this is dark um it's a cozy vacation with good people and when I say you make lifelong friends
you really do um I've uh this the people here even
more than the dark sky uh keeps me coming back year after year after year and uh I talk to them you know by email
and phone uh people you know that you've become friends with and they're they
could be in Canada they can be on the west coast um you make lifelong friends so uh just
want to say thank you uh and if there are any questions um
it's uh Adirondack astronomy Retreat gmail.com and uh Patrice will get back
to you as soon as you can thank you thank you Mark yeah yes and I did share
the um I did share the link to your Squarespace webpage so thank you
yeah all right I have a question yeah actually it's a personal one one of
the very first pictures you showed was a picture of you and Wendy and I
believe that the other one was Martha yes I'm wondering if you could send that to me I sure can I absolutely can I have
completed a slideshow for my remembering Wendy talk
that I'll be giving there and I'd like to include that picture absolutely not a problem okay could you
give this talk many times this is the best thank you thank you
David appreciate it thank you Mark thanks for coming on to Global star party and uh know that you are always
welcome to come back so thank you Scott really appreciate it okay that's great well up next is uh uh David eicher
editor-in-chief of astronomy magazine and uh he is going down a list of
several hundred uh exotic deep Sky objects and this one is called do I have
this right David it's the dusty hand Galaxy the dusty hand Galaxy never trust
popular names for deep Sky objects ever because either these were really bored
people or they were on some controlled substance I think many of these names
they make no sense whatsoever but this is what it's called the dusty hand Galaxy okay
so I will take it away take it away I will share my screen I'll see if I can
find the right thing to share and I will start a slide show
and um can you see hoag's object a very unusual ring Galaxy there well this has
nothing to do with anything forget about that it's just a pretty picture but I do like that object I think we'll get to
Hawaii's object you know about three years from now in this succession of objects but not yet
so today I thought I would talk about indeed it's called the dusty hand Galaxy you may actually know it better by its
NGC number which is 23.46. it's a barred spiral in
camelopartilus which is an s b s a b peculiar Galaxy because of some
interaction with a much smaller Galaxy which we'll see in a moment here
it's a fairly dim Galaxy but not super dim about 11th magnitude overall in V
magnitude it's uh respectably large compared to what we talked about last
week it's about six arc minutes across so you know kind of an average Joe a little bit brighter than an average Joe
Galaxy as we might call it uh it's about 70 million light years away the dusty
hand one you know one day we'll get to the bottom of this maybe maybe
can't promise anything but you know boy so anyway the interesting thing about
this whatever kind of hand it is it shows some warping and peculiarity uh Holton ARP was interested in this galaxy
because there's a smaller Galaxy that's not very creatively called NGC 2146a
that is uh tidally interacting with this Galaxy and so it's causing some unusual
form in the shape of the disc and and some title interactions with the Dust
it's about 80 000 light years across so this is a Galaxy that's a little smaller than the Milky Way and it's uh most
notable this isn't a very well studied Galaxy not not like the one we talked about that's pretty obscure last week or
or a few weeks ago before my vacation forgive me but uh but this is a relatively uh uh minimally studied
object um it does have a fairly High rate of star formation so it's classified and
presumably because of that interaction uh it has been tweaked into being what
astronomers call a starburst Galaxy with a fair amount of current star formation
let me see if it really really wants us there we go it wants us to go forward
about 10 times and we'll get to a uh star Atlas here the little tiny piece of
Ron stoyan's star Atlas the interstellarium Deep Sky Atlas a really nice combination of detail and
portability and you can see the dusty hand here
so this is the object and you can see how distorted it is imaged by Mark
Hansen uh he's one of the great imagers around these days and uh this is really
a curious object you can see why it caught the attention of Holton our and
others early on because of all the Warped detail of the of the disc
here's a Hubble image of the dusty hand which of course is magnificently more detailed we don't yet have a web image
that I know of of the dusty hand but you can see there's a lot of star formation going on even fairly close to the
Galaxy's Hub and nucleus here with these in in this image the way it's it's
colorized they appear sort of as Rusty orange H2 regions star-forming regions
here so there's a lot going on much more so than a typical Galaxy which operates at
a very slow formation of of a star or two per year like the Milky Way
and that's it that's the dusty hand so I encourage you to get out and look at it this is also a big moment in the history
of our magazine here because it took half a century but we finally made it to the 50th Anniversary issue which is now
just going off to the printer and will be out in August so we have some special
features about the uh you know looking forward half a century and what may happen always interesting stories to
write speculating about the future looking back in all the great stories that have happened over the last half
century that the magazine has covered and dream Carl Sagan's Widow the
executive producer of Cosmos has written a special uh story as well as Dave
Walter the brother of the Magazine's founder who who was basically was the publisher of astronomy magazine in its
early years I wrote a story about the history of the magazine and all the crazy stuff that's happened I've only
been there for 40 in the 50 years though so part of of it is an assumption and then we've talked about the hobby of
astronomy and how it's evolved over time and also Imaging which of course has really rapidly evolved Imaging is really
unlike it was even 10 or 20 years ago here as you guys know so that's a special issue it's oversized
it has extra pages and then I will mention once again the book that I've written recently with Michael bakich a
child's introduction to space exploration to uh inspire a new generation of kids to get into that new
era of public and private space also I'll mention very quickly if I can
Scott we was involved in this as well we've we've fairly recently announced
that there will be a new starmus Festival upcoming next year just about a
year from now and it will be in Bratislava Slovakia and we have all
sorts of special surprises and performers and speakers astronauts Nobel
Prize winners rock stars and others who we will have there a year from now and
Scott I think you're going to be involved in this again with a star party and with all sorts of special yeah
so I don't mean to speak for you Scott but but I think we'll get you uh that
into my account right now what's what's that can you put that into my calendar right now so yes put it into your
calendar okay you know what you guys if you have not been to starmus yet you can't not live
the rest of your life and not go to starmus I mean you will this is it is
beyond a uh a bucket list kind of thing so you really need to go
um uh you will be you will be left uh transformed
that's the only way I can say it you will be changed and it's really actually easy to get
over to those European cities some people have asked me you know why won't starmus be held in the United States and
there is a substantial amount of government support where we've done starmus uh and can you imagine the
United States Congress voting to fund a science festival I'm not going to hold my breath maybe it'll happen but uh the
United States Congress I'm not sure is familiar with science let alone the supporting of it so um anyway it's
happening in Europe again and uh it'll be a it's one of the you know sort of plagues that our founder and director
Garrick israelian has is that each one has to be bigger and bigger and better and crazier than the last one so there
are a lot of special surprises coming up with that and Scott I think you'll be involved with the star party once again
so that'll be lots of fun I it's it's conveniently going to be uh held about
five weeks after the total eclipse in the United States so thank goodness
we're not dropping it on top of a big Eclipse uh so you'll be able to go see the eclipse David I think David Levy I
think will be there as well next year you'll be able to see the eclipse and then go over and relax and rest and
listen to some great talks about science moving the the planet forward taking
care of the planet and also some rock and roll awesome awesome so thank you Scott as
always I will turn it back over to the head guy okay all right well I'm not really the
head guy but you know I get to hang out with you guys who are actually all the heads so
um we are uh moving right along now uh we
um have astronomers that are uh come from a a lot of uh diverse
areas in our community you know you've got an editor of a magazine here that
the magazine uh the world's most popular astronomy magazine you've got David Levy
who has given his life towards uh astronomy Outreach astronomy education
and his love and passion to search for comets um Mark said
zadarski did I say that correct mark okay big thumbs up all right that's good
Mark who is going to be running a an amazing uh
Retreat experience I wish I could get away and do it myself as I was listening
to this and you know David has begged me to come many times um it has just always been something
where work got in the way and so but I know that you guys have a great time there and I know that people uh really
do benefit from this um and the next speaker that we have coming up is none other than the
president the astronomical League which is the world's largest Federation of astronomy
clubs they have over 20 000 members and hundreds of astronomy clubs are under
its umbrella and so uh they're they're observing programs they're uh their long
list of awards and recognition programs that they have uh there's something for
everyone at the astronomical league if you don't belong you're not a member you
got to join so um we're going to turn it over to uh Carol Orange
thank you very much Scott it's a pleasure to be here and uh thank you for your kind comments and
I would like to report that the Restorations are coming along nicely for Baton Rouge but there's still room so if
you're wanting to attend a very special uh event with lots of speakers and
including two or three who are on this broadcast tonight come on down we'd really love to have you
and now I would like to share my screen
you see it not yet yeah here we go all right
um okay we're good now
yeah I'm also an amateur at this award bear
with me please very nice picture of you though yeah it is
okay
you have to hit the green share screen button create the uh screen that you
want to share and then commit to it okay here we go
how's that sorry sorry there's still no luck we're going to
make this happen yeah I bet you I do find that sharing a full screen
seems to work better than sharing an app I've seen some troubles with that but
okay I have nothing but faith that you're going to get it steal them up there huh not yet oh yeah
this is interesting all right let me go one other place and we're gonna make this happen
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is that good you're good but no
okay you can talk your way through it yep we might have to do it here in just
a little bit we're not going to give up Point yet but yeah you have the the green button
above your your panel I've got the sugar the share button okay the share button
and then you have to click the window that you want to share if you put the
first one is going to be there all your computer but if you select another
single a window it will be that only window
and then you you put share and that's all
okay and I'm sorry guys we are gonna get there I think
we're gonna make it happen yeah you can do it Carol you can do it
well I've got it on my desktop and that should work
you have multiple screens Carol I just have the one it's all okay
okay and so I'm going to slideshow I'm going to
share and I'm going to
go to where my file is which is on the desktop
and are we there no okay I think we're just gonna have to
uh talk through it okay okay um in Kansas City we have got a
Club world-class science engineering and Technology Library it's located at Linda
Hall Library that's the name of it and it's noteworthy because uh uh it is
world famous for the collection of rare books in The Collection
and if this had been working I was going to go through the various uh various
very star analysis of the world in fact the title of the talk is the Golden Age
of the celestial Atlas and exhibition of rare books from the collection of the Linden Hall Library
one of the primary ancient literary literary sources in the constellations were from against
from venison 1482 and the residents and the Renaissance the work was usually attributed to the
Roman historian C Julius hygienists who lived in the first century BC but now we know it was
probably composed by some other person with the same last name at a later date
the uh poeticon astronomicon was published
in 1482 in Venus although this early edition had start
positions indicated they have little to do with either the positions described by him or the actual positions in the
stars in the sky and the image I had here if we could see it was a wood cut version of Perseus
the next uh Atlas that's part of the special exhibition that they have now
committed to an online uh situation it used to be strictly at the physical
location they put special events together but now it's totally online I'll have a link for that just a little
bit later the second major Atlas that was uh published was by Johann Bayer in Raleigh
metro in 1603 that one contained 51 Star Charts one for each of the traditional
48 called mag constellations plus a chart of the newly discovered Southern
skies and two planospheres one of the main features of this book is
that it was an atlas a collection of maps rather than a pictures each plate has a carefully engraved grid
so the star positions could be read off to fractions of a degree
these positions were taken from the catalog of Taco Bry which had circulated
in menus in manuscript in the 1590s which was only printed in 1602 and one
of the main features of that 1603 uh publication was the fact that this
marked the introduction of a new system of Stellar nomenclature Greek letters
were assigned to The Brighter Stars generally in the order of magnitude another novelty of Bayer's Iran Metra
was the inclusion of a plight of the Southern stars discovered by 16th century voyagers
it also included 12 new constellations one of the odd features of the aroma
urana Metra is that Bayer chose for some reason to show many of the human
constellations from the back even though traditionally they all face us unfortunately this caused lots of
problems for other astronomers as well and they did some changing in the next publication of a major Atlas
in 1690 Johannes velius published his work
and this was the first star Atlas to rival Bears urana Metra in accuracy
utility Innovation and influence it is unique Among The Grand atlases in
choosing to depict the constellations as they would appear on a globe that is from the outside looking in rather than
from a geocentric point of view as bear and others adopted is that was also introduced to 11 new
constellations they all seem to add new ones as they were going along uh not all they survived some were uh some were
added to other constellations over the years then in 1729 John flamsteed published
his Atlas called lettuce in London he was the first astronomer Royal of
England and presided over the building of Greenwich Observatory he was a dedicated observational astronomer
he also published or after his death actually the British catalog of stars
was published in 1725 well after his death and it brought Stellar astronomy
to a new level histor Atlas was published four years after the catalog but had been in
development for over 20 years and it was based on flamstadt's new more accurate observations
blemstad objected to the reversal and the appearance of Bayer's earlier depiction of the constellation figures
then to end the Golden Age of the celestial Atlas we had Johann Bodhi who
published his publication in Berlin in 1801. if the Golden Age of the celestial Atlas
began with bears publication it ended almost exactly two
centuries later with bodhi's uranographia the largest star Atlas that has ever
been published and it also had the positions of more than 17 000 stars as well as just about
every constellation ever invented and no less than 25 nebulae that have been
discovered and cataloged by William Herschel practically everyone proposed since
uh hebelius is included here as well as five brand new ones
and the next slidey uh I'm going to give that and I'll send that to you Scott I'm
going to copy the link to this exhibition okay we'll put that in the uh
in the uh text there the chat and if my
sister had been working correctly tonight uh the next thing I would show you is a picture of our one and only uh
David Levy from 2015. and that was featuring him
and several uh uh trustees from the Linda Hall Library
as well as their president they the picture shows uh of his observation logs
many of which uh are stored at the Linda Hall Library
and earlier in the month of September of 2015 David presented his observation
logs to the Linden Hall Library following his lecture writing the same book over almost 60 years a record of a
not watchman's Journey under the night sky and then David wanted me to also let
everybody know that in addition to his observing uh logs which are a part of
the collection at Linda Hall Science Library he also don't his donated his
first telescope a 3.5 inch Sky scoped to LHS as well
so that is my talk uh and thank you so much and so sorry of
the hassle with the it is no problem there's no problem no still a good talk
now we could probably I guess a last resort would be to email it to someone
and have us present and we work together on it the talk was still really good so
um we still got a lot of good information out of it even if technology didn't want to help us thank you so much
I I'll admit I'm an amateur at this at times as well and I apologize for that but anyway that's that's my talk and I
wanted to make sure we recognized David his collection at Thunder Hall and one thing I might say about the uh rare book
uh election at Linda Hall those rare books uh one can set an appointment at
the Linda Hall library and go out and physically touch those ancient manuscripts oh my God
and they have in addition to Star atlases uh they also have many first
edition books astronomy books as well as other scientific books so if you're ever in the Kansas City area I would really
encourage you to stop by and we can make the arrangements to make that happen so
thank you so much do you yourself um uh get in Carol do you or does the
astronomical League get involved at all with the Linda Hall Library yes we have been involved uh actually
anytime we've had a strong convention in Kansas City we've always had some kind of a rare book display for our patrons
that come to the convention whether it's a national Convention or a regional and so there it's it's really uh uh they
have really uh uh updated their capability of sending uh data and
articles to the whole world so you can get online uh go to Linda Hall if
they're you're doing research about a certain scientific uh uh appeal to study
they can email that information to you they make it very seamless and very easy to do research and and it's it's I would
highly recommend it great awesome okay well thanks very much and uh
um again uh if uh if you guys are if you don't belong to the astronomical League
uh definitely visit their website um uh at astrowleague.org
and um the other thing I'm going to recommend
that you do is you tune in to their astronomical League live programs they
have special speakers on I don't know who the next speaker will be for the next event they
are yeah do you recall the date and I believe it is the second Friday of this
month in fact it's coming up I believe only maybe the 16th and over that but
it's a week or two and we'll be publishing it so make sure you uh check on the league web page we'll be
published in that and I I think that's it and I'll put it maybe actually it
might be on the ninth the other thing I'm going to point out is uh the Mid-States Regional Alpine uh is
happening in Tulsa Oklahoma on the 9th as well that that starts over the weekend
uh uh one of us from explore scientific will be there
um and I might be able to get away myself it's it's uh it's not too far
away from us excellent it's being held in Jenks Oklahoma which is a suburb of Tulsa and they have a world-class
planetarium there which would be really interesting to see so feel free to come here I'd love to have you I would like
to add my congratulations to you Carol for this wonderful overview of the Linda
Hall Library the first time I was there was in two was when I was doing research
for my uh doctoral thesis and I went there to do some find out
some things about Shakespeare I had gone to two libraries one was the Folger
in Washington and the other one was Linda Hall and while I was there
uh one of the Librarians brought out to me a copy of
um an original observing log
done by one of the most famous one of the herschel's an English to genres
original logic and I was just relishing that oh yeah and it was at that moment
that I talked with them about donating my Observer logs to them and that turned out for my next visit
the one after that I donated my personal journals to them and then finally came
the uh telescope itself at the end uh some people have been asking about
the um telescopes that I've used to discover most of my comments with
that is being donated to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada so that
they can put it to better use than I can at the moment I have
I have Eureka which is an explore scientific 12-inch which I'm now using
for my comment search it's a little easier to move around and a little easier to use but Carol
excellent wonderful presentation thank you and I'll put the real thing out someplace on the internet so everybody
can see it sorry for the mess up yeah okay well thanks very much guys
um next up is going to be we're going to go down to Argentina to uh to Maxi
filari's and uh Maxie thanks for coming on to Global star party tonight
um it has uh it's always a pleasure to see the beautiful images that you make
I that is if your internet doesn't freeze maybe he's just holding really still
what do you think uh
I don't know I when I started the GSP I didn't have any problems right
uh hello you're okay now okay so it's a small bandwidth we can tell but okay we
can but yes I I do not I don't know why my connection goes pretty rough but well I
hope you you see me good I hear me good yeah we do now yes yeah we think it was
just a jealous Astro photographers pulled a plug on you somewhere that's right yeah maybe they say oh man then
they put it back yeah the evil eye oh well
so well thank you for reminding me tonight I'm glad to be here like every
Tuesday night with you guys uh what I'm going to show you is what I'll be doing
this last last Sunday we now you know we have a full moon
practically but and for now that's not a
problem to do astrophotography you know you can do of course take pictures of the Moon and then you can try another
object even if you have filters or something like that they
you can help you to take more sharpening and details from Deep Sky objects
without that light of the the bright the moon and of course if you are in a
political area of light so
okay do you um I'm going to share my screen
okay do you see it yes okay the the connection gets
established that's coming soon by the way yeah you wake up you will come in a couple
months or next year soon to the center line near you that's right
so get prepared for that Eclipse get prepared so well uh what I'm going to show you
this is a from stellarium software and this is the the day of what I was taking
pictures was last 4th of June at 10 pm from here maybe you can see at
the East is the almost full moon rising up and behind that we have the
the core of the Milky Way but the Moon is is pretty shining and you can't even
see it but behind that you have all these beautiful places to to watch but
anyway uh uh I put my equipment outside of my backyard and I put also I will work it
with the lxt stream filter of 1 inches and 25
uh to take pictures of a place called uh
the liberty statue that's a besides of the Karina nebula and it's a good place
that with this kind of feature grows up the the details and the shapes because
taking single shots is really really difficult even if you have light
pollution and if you have a full moon but first of all I want to show you what
uh what uh what kind of sky that we have here because
for example this is my North you can see Arturo's star and of course
I'm in the southern hemisphere so everything that you know it's upside down like if I watch it yeah and if you
show it from the north so I point this area because I did some
pictures with my cell phone to the scope and a little of the sky so you can see
that's my night that was my night uh and you can see here is arturus and uh here
is from Lions constellation
and of course this is my equipment on a couple of trees this is a banana tree
from of my father and a couple orange lemon
another kind of trees an albums and I
was taking pictures of three 30 seconds with my cell phone and you can see here
how in a couple of 20 minutes A change the position of the of the telescope
but almost was illuminated you can see this here is a shadow of the banana tree
because this is the light that a reflection we have of the Moon
so that's why this is not on the day this was 10 p.m almost 11 p.m so
basically uh it's when I took pictures of 30 seconds with a cell phone uh with
only a tripod put it on leave it to take pictures and I could have this and in this case I
am working with a naq 6 a cwo tt-33
um color camera a and guiding with this
2 290 a.m
cwo camera and of course the the eight inches telescope and this is a like we call it
when you do it yourself or do it yourself
um a hood that I made with a new brand to to protect more the the the comma
corrector because you can see here is a hole that
um holds the the spider of the secondary mirror and nearby there is the edge of
the scope so is
I don't like too much it's a short telescope and they put out too much to
show the the the the the cylinder of the
scope but anyway I did this Shield you can hear me because yeah okay now it
pops up a warning of my in a stability connection
but okay so you can see here the the sky is moving and
oh yeah hello yes no problem no I think I'm
Okay so for example this is a a couple of stars
and I don't know if you can see it it's unfocused this start because I want to
focus to the detail of the scope you know and that's why the the stars are more rounded and with little details but
when you go to a stellarium you can see
the same area with these stars and this l
from here you can have the the L here and this is
the star well so
hello hello ah okay I hear some sounds that you hear me no I
I hear some Santa it makes me think that I'm losing connections so yeah yeah yeah if you do have a low bandwidth but
you're you're uh sharing the screen is perfect and um so it's okay it's okay
okay let's let's continue so well here are here is the my in my polar sold
polar Celestial poll um
changing the Meridian you know let me put it like this
here's the South so basically this health is the second Meridian and I
went to this place you know here's karinaula this is the running a a
running chicken I don't know what it goes like that and beneath of this to enable us we have
this place this is the liberty statue nebula
because uh is it has the shape of a liberty
statue a Uprising his arm and it's like a purple
so I try to do pictures of this place uh with a narrow band
a filter to of color and their result was almost this for
example let me
this is a single shot of three minutes excellent
so you can see it's almost the same field of view that I have here you can
see this red square is the the sensor with my telescope this is simulator
so basically I have this practically this place
you can see here there's a an open cluster little open cluster of course it
doesn't it doesn't need little but anyway I try
to capture this and a you know but
um in fighting with light pollution because this place is on the south of my
city and to the South I have the core of the city so the the light is pretty
shiny and of course the LED lights is really tough but anyway with this a
filter in three minutes you can see it protects a lot of that light and also
I had the full moon so it's really really good filter
and also I love the stars is they are pretty much rounded
you know for example this one this is I think the collimation was good finally
okay it looks like we're Frozen up here a little bit let's see if Maxie can recover
the great smile though it is nice part of the sky
I think maybe I may have lost him may have lost him
and we did we did so anyways uh Maxi may
come back on with us later and get a little bit better connection here um we are
um uh about ready anyways to take our first a break not our first break but
our only break uh for a global star party and um I have been uh
playing some of these uh uh wonderful programs that were put together by NASA
and uh they are symphonic interpretations of uh of the
visualizations that niasa has done and so I'm gonna play this one for you I
think you're really gonna love this um this all has to do with the moon so
here we go foreign
hey Scott before you play that yes uh if I'm gonna have to be departing at this
point but if you can send me last week's um Global star party I'd like that I
will do that okay thanks thanks David here next week okay
here we go are you dreaming Farewell My friend David
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thank you uh that was incredible
um we are back uh and Maxie was able to regain his connection so he's just got a
few minutes left before we go to Connell Richards uh Maxie do you want to you want to try to finish up here
yes I will try okay my YouTube first get crushed but I think I have reset it so
okay uh let me share my screen again foreign
yes great so we were on fixing sites so
this is the the stack of the liberty statue in nebula
here and in the right and you know I uh
only did a one process of this place but anyway without that process it's it's really
amazing place to to capture you know but then I continuing I
background extraction so gets more a flat of the
of the of the the background and
and then when I process this image it changed a lot of the of that
I get this you know this is like I said this is my first um
a process of this amazing place and
you know I really love the different shapes and colors of this place you know
this like it's like a tree and and here is changing the color and
the shapes and the lights and this a long bear of a tapestry of uh Dusty
nebula against that uh that really electric looking uh you know branches
coming off in the center there it's really cool let me get some a little more but of
course if I get submit he will be distortionated but anyway I also love the stars that I get uh
they are pretty much a circularly and the spikes too and I I
didn't have well look at this amazing place to this
dust that gets with the lights with those stars and this
I I'm really happy to capture this one because I wanted a long time ago
and when I do without the filter it's only
a little shade of this and of course the more lighting places but that's all
and so well I think this is a all for tonight uh I'm
sorry for the the issues that I get but you know it could happen it happens of
course so yeah well thank you Scott for making the effort and uh thanks for
sharing your great work with us and um next time okay you'll see you next time
bye-bye take care all right okay and so what we're going to do now is uh we're
going to transition over to um uh to Connell Richards connell's been
on global Star Party several times and it's always a pleasure to have him on he always gives a great presentation full
of information about not only the experience that uh that he has and
shares with uh normally with a group of people around him but also his great
astrophotography Connell I'm going to turn it over to you man all right thank you very much for the
introduction Scott um I should mention those images earlier Max you were beautiful but you can
really see the Statue of Liberty kind of coming out uh and that video we looked at during the break of that Symphony
over uh those images of the moon was really a great transition to what I'm talking about today uh which are some of
what I call off the beaten path lunar targets uh these are craters and mountains and rails and things like that
on the moon that I've come across lately and they're objects that are I guess features that we don't really see
brought up in a lot of the lunar books and uh you know astrophotography a lot
but their things I think are certainly worth looking at some things uh that have an interesting story to tell but
before I go into that I have some images to share that I took today through all of this Wildfire smoke
I'll share my screen here let me know if you can see the PowerPoint okay yes
okay um playing around with all the zoom
handlebars right here okay there you go all right so on the cover
slide here um I have sketches of two craters along with an image I took of Copernicus
um Scott over on the left is uh I think it's a yeah a southern polar crater very
far down a little bit like clavius in appearance um but you're kind of looking at it Edge
on which is really cool and then there's Messier on the right which is one of the features I'll be talking about today but
like I said first comes this wild fire photography these images this one right
here was taken at 505 local time when the sun was 36 degrees high in the sky
there's no filter here that's pretty much what it looked like to the naked eye there is the disc of the sun barely
coming through um the sun in this instance was even dimmer than uh some stages of lunar
eclipses that I've seen that's kind of what it reminded me of uh because the whole Horizon is kind of dark
um kind of like a solar eclipse and so much of the sun is is blocked out here
in fact you could just look at it straight you know without any filtration uh and it was it was pretty dim
uh here we see a little bit more of it coming out and these are the raw images I grabbed earlier
um and then after this I zoomed in and I tried to take an image through some binoculars though it was you know a
really odd way of doing things I was getting these slightly clearer patches of the smoke uh but it was pretty thick
and pretty pretty wide uh over the state um I should reference here that I'm
living in northeastern Pennsylvania that's where I took these images from and this smoke is coming down from
Quebec and it's coating New York New Jersey Pennsylvania and I think quite a
bit farther down the East Coast as well but in this image here you can just barely see one of the larger sunspots on
the sun right now there's one there there's one a little farther up here no specs on the lens and I do have a little
bit of a cleaner image later that I took about two hours after that here's one of the sun setting I think
it's about 10 degrees high at this point and I got it nicely set between the two pine trees there I was going out and
looking around trying to see if I could get one more good shot for tonight's talk and there it was
um I zoom in a little bit here and you can see that Sunspot again that big one there uh and such a deep red color uh
almost kind of an orange it was really another worldly thing to see and with how the forecasts are looking uh it
looks like um things will be even smokier uh tomorrow unfortunately for us because as
soon as you walk out the door you can actually smell it it's like you're standing next to a campfire it's very
thick right here but we're also expecting some thunderstorms and rain in the near future so hopefully that can clean up
the the lower atmosphere a little bit and quite literally give me some breathing room uh but on to tonight's uh main feature
for the talk which is these off the beaten path lunar features we start off with Messier crater which we saw in the
title slide here and on the right I have an image that I took of the Moon you'll see this on all of the forthcoming
slides um it's right about the full phase and I have a red box there to indicate roughly
where this is on the left here I have another picture this is taken from a smartphone app called Moon globe and it
adapts images from the lunar reconnaissance Orbiter kind of overlays them on the moon and then puts these
features on top of it you can get labels there and that's a much closer look at kind of what we're looking at and then I
also have some information in the upper left and that comes from a book called The Moon Mars and Venus by the famed
lunar cartographer Antonin rookel I believe is how you pronounce his name but he has the famous uh atlas of the
Moon uh that that quite a few people are a fan of and right here next to me I
have the smaller kind of lighter version that talks about the moon and Venus as
well or the Mars and Venus as well it has some maps in there a very good book I do recommend it
but back to Messier crater it's quite a small one about 10 kilometers in diameter it's way over kind of towards
this Eastern limb of the Moon uh just south of the Sea of Tranquility and you see it has this double impact here so it
looks like a rock was kind of skipped on a lake there's the main impact here you see Messier with the actual label on it
and then just to the left of that you see a secondary impact so maybe a piece shattered off
um maybe the impact's split in two and was kind of traveling together maybe it skipped off just like a rock on a pond
but we kind of can tell that these are related because if you look to the left of this you can see these Rays here
there's there's a big one to the north big one to the South and they're just shooting straight off several times the
diameter of the crater so it looks like this impacted at a really shallow angle and just kind of skipped off the moon
right there it's a really beautiful crater to see you can get of course more detail on the craters if you look at
them when the Terminator is around that location but if you wait until a little bit later like a first quarter or a full
phase you can see those Rays really illuminated and it really gives the crater a lot of Dimension it's
definitely something I recommend checking out and this Creator like all the other features I'll be talking about
tonight are within the range of small and medium-sized telescopes it's always nice to have some things for everybody
to observe I come next to Bessel Ray here and in
the image to the left or this picture here we have Bessel crater right in the middle and you can kind of see the ray stretching this way it runs north to
south you can see it quite clearly in the larger image and my interest in this Ray was kind of
provoked by a sky and Telescope article uh some years ago I don't remember the exact issue but essentially the story
behind this Ray is that if you look at maps of the Moon you try to trace this back it doesn't really seem to come from
a notable crater it's named bezel because it runs right through this vessel crater right here but this crater
doesn't really seem to have a lot of rays around it like you know Copernicus or Tycho down here would and this is
such a huge Ray there's some speculation that it might have gone all the way from Tycho down in the southern hemisphere of
the Moon and kind of splashed up uh right into the sea of Serenity uh there's speculation that the crater that
might have made this Ray has now been covered up by past lunar geologic processes but its origin has never been
quite pinpointed and as I think um the clip we watched earlier with the
symphony kind of showed though not in words the Moon is a very mysterious place and it's hard not to feel that
when looking at it there's a great sense of mystery and Beauty when observing the moon and you can get a part of that yourself even if you're observing with
binoculars uh with how bright and long this feature is it's about 600 kilometers long and of course well worth
a stop on your quest of lunar targets third we come to Montes Rook which is
way over on the limb of the moon right here where that red box is and the picture I have on the left shows
kind of what it looks like at an angle but I was doing some sketching of this uh in fact this whole talk was inspired
by an astronomical League observing program called the lunar 2 program they have a lunar program where you kind of
look at the C's and some of the major craters but this lunar 2 program goes into a little bit more detail and it
directs you to observe some slightly more challenging objects on the moon and over the course of of uh observing in
that I found some of these odd targets and that's kind of why I thought I'd share them here but Monte's Rook the
reason I bring this one up is if you look at it just at the right time when the vibration is very favorable you're
looking at the mountain range Edge on and it borders Mari Oriental it's kind of a curved mountain range like
montezura up here uh but of course we're looking straight at the side of it and you can see
there's Peaks here there's valleys here and there's one point where you look at at the mountain range and there's this
very distinct V shape so you're kind of looking Edge on at these Cliffs and like a lot of these other targets I
bring up tonight it brings the moon a lot of Dimension and a lot of life and like I mentioned earlier the vibration
can be just favorable to see that but it can bring us it you know a little bit toward us and a little bit away from us
as the Moon is kind of rocking back and forth in its gravitational title lock with the Earth
and it brings our solar system quite a lot of uh Dimension it shows us how Dynamic the universe we live in is it's
always nice to be reminded of that in the targets that we choose to observe
fourth I come to montswigens which I think should be a stop on every lunar observers list uh if you're trying to
cross off the the biggest and the tallest and the best this is the tallest mountain on the moon it's about 15 000
feet tall or 5400 meters it's located right in the appenite range right here
and you can kind of see it this is around a first quarter phase uh where this simulated image comes up
uh you can see the angle right there right where the Y and Huygens is uh it
casts quite a shadow if you look at it at the right time and it's similar in height to probably our highest Alps or
maybe the extreme end of the Rocky Mountains if you want to get some perspective here on Earth but it goes
straight down as we can see you can find it with this ghost crater outline looks like there was a crater there in very
ancient times on the moon it's been filled in by magma but you just see the rim of it right around here and it kind
of you can't help having some curiosity of what it would be like to stand down
here on this plane and look at that mountain and kind of wonder what a tall mountain on the Moon looks like
especially because it's curb so much more sharply it's a smaller object than the Earth it really brings some more mystery and
Beauty to the moon like I mentioned earlier finally tonight we come to Rhema Hadley
and the reason I save this for last is I believe it's one of the best it reminds me quite a lot of what a scene on Earth
might look like so the Rima on the moon these are reals these are cracks and Ravines that have formed in the magma
through through various methods and you can see it snaking through the mountains right here now if you were to extend
this simulated image on the bottom left kind of right down here if you kept going down uh down into the left is
where you would run into montoygen so this is in the same mountain range just a little bit farther north if you were
to slide up that curve but we see some mountains here uh kind of to the Northeast side and then the southwest
side we also see some other mountains the main part of the apennine range Rima Hadley runs straight through it you can
kind of see it snaking through there's mountains there you can see Apollo 15 landed there so I'm sure there's some
great pictures that those astronauts got and it almost looks like this reel here is sourced up in these mountains much
like we have ponds at very high altitudes and they start to form rivers and they have tributaries and they snake
down through mountain valleys and it almost looks like a flood plain down there and obviously the moon doesn't
have the great flowing water rivers that we have on Earth and and some of the forested mountains but we can look at
the Moon there and see just a little bit of the Earth in that and I think that's a really beautiful connection uh to have
the two celestial bodies and perhaps maybe you're even observing from a mountain valley or a Mountaintop much
like the one we're looking at here but from very different geologic circumstances
again these mountains are quite High it features the appenite range does mons
Huygens which is the tallest and then we also have mons Hadley which is quite tall as well the Apollo 15 astronauts
returning some great images of that and we have this approximately 80 kilometer long rail snaking through there so next
time you get out and uh maybe you're bummed out that the Moon is kind of brightening up your your deep Sky plans
I still recommend getting out your telescope and taking a look at the Moon because as much as we enjoy these great
features like Copernicus and some of the the larger mountain ranges and the and the bigger and brighter craters it's
nice to take a second look at the Moon and really take in all of the finer details so I encourage you to get out
and do that thank you very much for having me tonight I very much enjoy having you on Connell
um you know I think that when you observe the moon and really study it in
the way that you have you really uh you develop an even deeper bond with the
moon you know and it makes you think of all the uh uh the aspects that the moon
uh and and the Earth um you know the dynamic that we have with the tides and and uh you know thank
goodness we have a moon such as we have so that's great what is your favorite part
in terms of a feature or some aspect of them yeah um I think I might have to point to
montoygens uh one of the objects I talked about tonight because I remember learning about that very on in my
observing career and thinking about mountains that I had seen on Earth and that was kind of the starting point for
uh developing a deeper connection with the moon and with the cosmos I've been doing a lot of deep Sky observing lately
but like you say it's really nice to go back to the moon sometimes kind of go back to basics to where you started in
astronomy right so montoygens was one of the the biggest and best features that I was first able to find and that's one of
the reasons I included it tonight I'd like to have I'd like to see many other people have that same experience with that mountain
excellent well thank you very much and uh um and we will uh we'll see hopefully
next time so uh our next Global Star Party uh let's see we have a looks like we
have a little bit of a change in our schedule here um uh so I am going to switch over to
um Adrian Bradley Adrian are you uh yeah I can I plan to sort of wing it yeah um
it's time because there's a couple things coming up you've got an annular eclipse and I think Scott you are
going to be uh hosting an event that's right and uh we're we're
gonna have our first uh uh Eclipse Expedition type of uh start party
stargaze it'll be in Hill Country of uh Texas and um it'll be in the same spot
actually you would go and set up in the exact same spot uh and come back
just six months later and witness the total eclipse from the same area for us is the same area yeah the eclipses Star
Party um and so yeah you can you can find more about that if you just go to explore
scientific.com forward slash eclipse and uh and learn how to take part in that so
yeah so that was one of the places that I considered going to
um I'm publicly sharing I sent you an email about a friend of mine one of the many
uh folks that's uh giving out presentations about where to see the
eclipse that would be one really good place to go
um I'm gonna share screen because I'm also going to talk about planning and
preparing for your night photography shot which I think is also a good
um I think is also a good thing to discuss as well so
so a couple of things here here does the information you were talking
about Scott and here is here is the gear to invest in
now would be a great time because uh these variable large aperture solar
filters these glasses these glasses are going to go fast when it becomes
time for the uh the actual solar eclipse whether people
go to totality or annularity or if they just stay home and
watch the partial eclipse unfold which a lot of people did last time we had total
solar eclipse a couple people from my job came down or went down
to where it was when it crossed over here uh Kentucky Tennessee which I'm looking here we go
it crossed down here which if you notice it's a little bit further north but then
again it came as you call it came this way and down
um and so we will not have another total solar eclipse in North America for 21
years um I'll send you I've sent you an email about a presenter that uh would be able
to would love to come on global star party and do a presentation on the eclipse we can you know we'll be able to
discuss it but um one of the other places and I don't know
if this map's clickable um if I don't right down in here I guess
near Austin is where you're gonna have the uh Star Party because that's where the crossroads is
but if you stay north Point Pele National Park if you can get
into Canada this juts out into Lake Erie and that's on the center line too or in
at least within the swath of the uh Center Line so so if your travel plans
include having at least a passport card for Canada
um that would be an option if you're staying North and I'm planning right now to figure out
I've actually discussed um with the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada
that um this place which is getting becoming a dark sky preserve so you'll
see some photos from there not long from now
um that will um that will be photos that I'm going to
take ahead of time you know once the sky is clear from this National Park in
Canada if I can get out there and then assess just how beautiful the place is
it looks like it's a very beautiful place so um
so other thing I'm gonna do I'm gonna move this and look for Brian Odom is that how you
pronounce his name uh Brian yeah Odom Odom okay yeah yeah
so it'd be good to have it on perfect so here's another
um who will drop down sometimes I do photography for events and
after that I decided to take a simple iPhone and go to State Park during the
daytime now if you notice these pictures were looking at the
pennebok river it's a place that I've imaged before I'll see if I can
um slide in a couple pictures that I've taken
from there in the past and compare what I'm what I'm showing here is
sometimes preparation is the uh
is the absolute key to making sure that a photo that you would like to take of
the night sky that you're able to actually pull it off and in order to do
that [Music] um and I'm looking to see if I can find
those images so this was 2022 I need 2023.
um let's go
May April March let's see if this
so March of 2023 because I've been to this Lighthouse a
lot this was a planned shot over the lighthouse uh funny story I went back to
the lighthouse recently and before taking photos I uh cringed in horror as
I realized I didn't have a card for my camera so I was not able to take follow-up pictures so make sure you have
all of your gear with you and make a checklist or you might
not like the results yeah because uh you will be stuck
and you will have nothing but an iPhone to
um this is Albert sleeper um one of the things that you look at is
this is Southwest so anything that's in the night sky when
it gets to that point in the southwest six months from now the sky looks completely different but it'll be the
same angle the water will look completely different because this won't be this is Frozen in time here it'll be
full flowing water so I'd be standing in some waves at this point if I take the
shot but it gives me an idea to say okay if I want to catch the setting cygnus region
I can do that from this part of the Metro Park I can come in during the day
and I'll continue to look um I can come in during the day and take pictures that I think will make great
pictures at night like along the beach here this is the opposite of photos that I've taken
um from here in the past and here is in fact
is one of those photos that I've taken so where I'm taking these pictures
I found a way across the pinabog river this was in the winter and that's the cygnus region
I found my way across and now the um I'm standing on the SandBar over
here and I'm looking down the river the
um center of the uh the center of the Galaxy Rises up some of those images that I showed
earlier the galactic center Rising that happens over the pinebaug river and
whether it's happening here or if it's rolling over here because the sky Will Roll to where it
stands up and it and what what it's a what it amounts
to is it takes a lot of planning to make sure that you have
the type of shot you want so if you want this part of the Galaxy
over here you have to make sure that you're standing at the angle in which you can
see it and if you get it wrong then you just have to adjust your shot
accordingly so these are different ideas maybe a panorama would work as the night as the
sky is rising this is a closer look
and then this is out the dark sky preserve this is out where
the um let's see Saginaw Bay meets Lake Huron
and that's facing north so for observing it's a really great place
but you have to carry your observing equipment all the way out there which is not as much fun
and there were a couple of other ideas that I had
these two in particular I thought might make an interesting uh
location but then you have to go through some Woods in order to see it and once again
trying to picture using the compass trying to picture what a site might look
like if it's at night and it's full of stars so if you imagine
the part of the Milky Way cutting through there at some sort of angle
um these are the steps that you take in order to plan
um in order to plan for future shots so when the sky is
not so great or there's smoke in the sky or it's you have a full moon at night
um with conal uh showing us you know his uh
Sun yeah yeah Colonel showing pictures because you
know we see that uh Robert's here the Moon is a wonderful object and in fact I
think I have a couple because after yeah before
before I did the presentation um
you know I took pictures you take pictures during the day in order to get great pictures at night
and that picture I just showed you would be an example of that that was
these are all the pictures at night and so here you have you have this picture
and then there's a close-up and there's the Milky Way going over so
when you you take one picture and it gives you an idea now there's clouds here but you
never give up you say okay that would be a great picture I'm facing you know a
certain I'm facing a certain direction and then even when you take pictures
you take pictures before and I'm looking for
this one let's see these in particular so this is a picture I've taken it's
been a couple of years and
so then you take a slightly different angle and it changes not only if there are
changes being made to the area there are changes being made in your
process um it also there's so much drama in that
image yeah and it also compared to the original
image foreign
a certain style of editing for that one this image which the Light Keeper
the style of editing here made it so that everything was a lot clearer the Light Keeper one of the light keepers of
the um Lighthouse loved it and before we could hang it in the gift shop he just
bought it and it's at home with all of his other images so I thought that to be
a uh you know I thought that to be an honor and I'm a member of the society that
takes care of this Lighthouse so that gives me a little more you know unfettered access to the skies around
here but during the there's a lot of camping that goes on so my idea is to make it a dark sky preserve did not
you know aren't going to go so well and here's the same so we saw
we saw this shot you know we continue to work on
you know different angles and different processing techniques that's how we
grow and we change our style we figure out what worked well this was a
reprocess of this image so over here the colors
there's more saturation this red light does really cast its light on the grass
like that but what I did is I said I want to make it a little more natural looking so I
came back and the Aurora is still visible the lighthouse is more of a natural color the grass is more of a
natural color this is more along the lines of how it
looks you know natural color of everything the sky still has a little bit of an
orangish tint but that from the fainer parts of the Aurora that's up here
so while waiting on the weather to break you um you go back and you reprocess this is
what I was hoping to get this was taken a couple years ago but
when I didn't have my card with me all I could do was just visualize the shot
that I wanted and you know realizing well I wasn't going to get it this time but maybe there
would be a next time and as for those shots along
the dark sky Park and real quick and I'll turn it back
over because I've got some of those um
here we are back in the thumb Upper Peninsula and then
I had taken some daytime shots of that same area
got a sunset and then the Dark Sky Lodge and Tavern that's nearby
and at night so if you remember or recall the um
the image I had looking down this River well this was an image taken further to
the north where the river starts where it comes in from Saginaw Bay so now the
plan is to take this shot from over here so now we have more of
the river we have more of the foliage and we can see what position the galactic center is in it's standing
straight up and down and it's getting ready to tip so so each image shows you what a next
image would look like um this is part of the experimentation of doing your night photography
of where you want to go to do more night shots
um planning planning is essential if you're going to
take good shots or at least take shots that um shots that you can be proud of or that
can lead to even more you know even more shots um you wanna you wanna make sure
Milky Way is going to be in position you use things like spot WX or astrospheric
for cloud forecasts astronomy forecast the weather might say it's clear but it
could be clear and Smoky or it could be high clouds in the area so all of those
affect the type of shot you'll get and um and there's nothing wrong with shooting
through smoke or shooting through um slight cloud cover because of the you
might get something interesting and unique that you wouldn't get otherwise if the sky was just clear
so um so if that's got that'll be my presentation we'll see what happens
if you didn't learn anything else there's two things try trying to try and try again with
images try different angles and do what you have to to see the eclipse and if you're looking for a
place to go down to uh that's right we've got a spot for you that's right got a spot for you
so and the the chances of clouds down there are far less than the chances of
clouds and up here to the north in the Ohio area so true but you can never plan
exactly plan for what the weather's going to be like for an eclipse absolutely there is something called
fractional Cloud patterns and it's averaged over 20 I think like 20 years
or something yes and that's that's the data that we used
uh to determine where we were going to be um but uh but uh you know eclipses do
weird things the the you know you get this thousand mile an hour moving Shadow
that's cooling uh you know leaving a trail of cool air behind it and um so
it's uh it can do some really bizarre stuff so yes
anyhow absolutely so thank you so much no problem all right okay so our next
speaker is uh uh young Navin uh sentel Kumar and Gavin and his father uh as I
mentioned earlier uh met me at the Northeast astronomy Forum but now in uh
are you uh ready to uh make your presentation
yeah I'm good to go so hopefully I'm gonna share my screen
sorry about that I'm having a bit of technical difficulties it has been an evening of technical
difficulty yeah I guess it's an amazing my screen shared okay but I've got
multiple screens to work with so maybe it helps but hopefully Navy
because yeah we we've had screens not share uh all night
I don't know what's happening you know so yeah yeah all in uh you've
done this enough times you know that man my dad's coming just okay
yeah that's those these are the technical difficulties we have when we uh we present online we everything's
working and all of a sudden it doesn't and then it doesn't work yeah it doesn't work
um yeah I screen share by picking a uh I
pick a screen to put all of my content on so that seems to work but uh
there we go they got it going yeah all right
is she my screen I didn't do presentation mode yes we do yep
all right I'm just gonna zip up here
I'm just in a presentation all right here we are here we go so my talk is
going to be today about supermassive black holes um
and let's get into it so firstly we need to introduce
ourselves to what is a supermassive black hole basically a supermassive black hole or
for sure it's known as an smbh or sometimes even svh is basically the largest type of black
hole with its mass being in on the order of hundreds of thousands maybe even
Millions to billions of times more than the mass of the sun which is pretty impressive
observational evidence suggests that almost every single large galaxy has a black hole in the middle
actually it's a super massive black hole two Supermassive Black Ops have been
directly imaged by The Event Horizon telescope so one of them is right here it's Messier 87 which many of you are
familiar with or the astrophotographers and in our own Milky Way galaxy we also
have a smbh which is pretty impressive um
and then now we need let's get into how they work really which is the
description supermassive black holes they're basically defined as black holes with a mass above a hundred thousand
you want to go a little bit more mathematical in scientific notation it's 10 to the fifth power
and this we're going to call M for short because we can't just say Mass
so some of them have a massive over several
billion in many supermassive black holes have physical properties that clearly
distinguish them from the lower class ifications lower Mass classifications
which is basically smaller like black holes which are like the normal size levels
so first thing is that the tidal forces in the vicinity of the Event Horizon are
basically significantly weaker or supermassive black holes so for example
the title force on a body at the black holes Event Horizon is inversely proportional to the square of
the black holes Mass basically a person at the Event Horizon of 10 million m
black hole experience is about the same tidal force between their head and feet as a person on the surface of the Earth
so it's nothing different it's like if you have the same title force on Earth it's like the same in a
supermassive black hole so it doesn't really make it much more different now let's get into some history
so the first thing that happened was who who taught who um figured out super
master black holes was beginning with the investigation by Martin Schmidt
of the radio Source 3C 273 1963 and if you this is Martin Schmidt by the
way here um initially he thought this was going to be a star but then the Spectrum
proved to be puzzling it was determined to be hydrogen emission lines that had been redshifted
indicating the object that was moving away from the Earth so now hablo's lie had shown that the
object was located several billion light years away and thus must be emitting the energy
equivalent to of hundreds of galaxies so super uh massive smbhs they can have
made a lot of energy because they have a lot going inside of them which we'll get to in a bit to actually see what's going
inside of them um and now we're going to talk about how they form
the origin of supermassive black holes remains in active field of research many astrophysicists agree that black holes
can grow by accretion of matter and merging by with other black holes
there are many hypotheses for the formation mechanisms and initial masses
of the progenitors or seeds of the supermassive black holes
for example many distant and early supermassive black holes such as qso Jake
313 1806 in ulas j1342 plus 0928 are hard to
explain because they're made so soon after the big bang basically this is how they combine
um they firstly this is the diagram that that's going to describe everything so firstly this this over here is the extra
Galactic jet and then right here this disc over here which is Orange it's called the
increasing disk and then inside the accretion disk is the black hole and then this is the
magnetic field lines and then both of them combined through the magnetic field lines energy and then
the extra Galactic jet which caused them to make you combine and that makes that's why all these supermassive black
holes have a lot more energy and that and one of them and they're
super interesting to actually find out now they also
can cause active have a lot of activity and Galactic radiation a lot of gravitation from supermassive
black holes in the center of many galaxies is thought to be to start to power active subjects such
as this the safer galaxies and quasars and the relationship between the mass of
the central black hole and the host Galaxy depends upon the galaxy type an empirical correlation between the
size of supermassive black holes and the Stellar velocity dispersion of a Galaxy world is called the M Sigma radiation
so over here basically in the image you could actually see the radiation that's going out from the gal like the middle
of the black hole because that's where they actually that's what causes all this energy it
needs to somehow get out so it ends up radiating most of the energy
as it goes now we we need to prove ourselves with
some evidence so one of the some of the best evidence for the presence of black holes is
basically provided by the Doppler effect which it's it's pretty familiar
whereby light from nearby orbiting matter is redshifted when receding and
blue shifted when advancing for matter very close to a black hole in
the orbital speed must be comparable to the speed of light so basically receding matter will appear
very faint compared with the dancing matter which means AT Systems would
intrinsically symmetry discs and Rings will acquire highly asymmetric visual
appearance so over here this image shows the Doppler effect in action right now
so the on the left side you can see it's the moving Observer on the right side it's the moving source
NWC the key the green over here and the left is the real position and over here
in the right it's the apparent position and the arrow indicates the direction of the light bulbs
a over here shows the light post going basically on this direction
which is the blue and this technically advancing
and then over here the light pulse is going the same direction and it's going in a circular motion over
here as you see because that's where the circles therefore and then for B over here
basically the light source is pointing directly upwards and these going this
way and it's not really in the circular motion
um B over here um shows in circular motion and it's
showing that this goes up but it doesn't really have a circular
motion over here for the energy um conclusion
astronomers and scientists are still trying to find more information about these supermassive black holes
but for now this is all we know about smbh black holes thank you that's all
thank you Natalie what do you find I mean what
and no pun intended what Drew you to uh give a presentation about black holes is
it like is it one of your favorite types of objects to talk about does it uh kind
of stretch your mind to think about uh how a black hole Works what what is it did you find so intriguing
something that I find super intriguing is actually how much energy they have inside of them because
one of the black holes they caused an eruption I forgot which one exactly it
was but it was an smbh that caused one of the most energetic
um star explosion um star explosions and um
about a long time and that released the most energy now since the big bang and
that was recently when 2020 when scientists found out so they're one of the most interesting
things about these is they're the amount of energy they have in their Mass yeah oh yeah they're very strange aren't they
you know when I was uh when I was uh your age I mean the idea of black holes
was still uh very much just um I mean there were people that were fairly
confirmed you know that these things must exist but there was a lot of us that still had the idea that well maybe
this is just um you know
still just kind of not fantasy but uh stuff you know that that is so far out
there that you know we can't understand it and we um and maybe doesn't exist at all so
that was uh that was kind of the uh you know the feeling about it I think
amongst the general public and then finally seeing an image of a black hole uh was really really
amazing and I think that that you know I I'm I feel lucky to be alive to see
stuff like that you know so um it's something that you'll always have as you go forward I can hardly
imagine uh you know your your own experiences when you turn 60 and 70 years old and
what you'll you'll have experienced in astronomy so keep up the good work Natalie you're
doing a great job thank you thanks for having me on the show again okay thank you okay uh up next is
um uh Robert Reeves uh Robert has uh
um been involved in amateur astronomy for a long time he has written books on astrophotography
um he is a uh you know an organizer of
the Texas Star Party um but uh his latest passion maybe for not
just latest but I think he's been interested in the moon for uh uh quite a
long time he's one of the most expert people I know about the moon and it's always fascinating to hear his
presentations so I'm gonna let you take it away thanks okay can you hear me okay
yep good well that part's working uh of course the uh next thing up is uh the uh
weekly um exercise where we see Robert
embarrassing himself by not being able to share his screen
glitches in in presentations and stuff but it's okay well we'll we'll muddle
our way through uh yeah of course you know I've called the um uh title of my
presentation Postcards From the moon so I inspired myself and I have actually
made real postcards oh well there you go from the Moon
that people can can mail so uh just a little fun thing I've been
tinkering with I didn't want to order those Robert uh well I haven't gotten that far yet uh
eventually I'll um when I get caught up with a million other things I'm doing I'll uh I'll post
it on Facebook on my regular Facebook page hey you know if you want these things you know drop me a personal message I'll send you a package so uh uh
just one of the many things that I'm overwhelming myself with nowadays
but uh as you said the moon has been my passion since I cannot remember when
um to date my lunar activity I would I was observing the moon before we knew
what the Far Side of the Moon look like before uh 1959 when the first first moon
probe Russian Moon probe photograph the back side of the moon and gave us a clue that the back side of the moon was not
at all like the front side but let's do the screen share and see if I can make
this work are you saying my title Slide the postcard Perfect Look at that and
just for funds it does not Advance oh
oh here we go again folks me back out of this somehow how do I get
out of here come on nothing is working now yeah yeah yeah yeah
why me okay hit Escape
there it goes okay let's try this again we're still seeing your postcards from
the Moon title slide okay did it Advance through the next one
no it did not did not you can unshare
back and share again and then find that find that dialog box
you know you can see the different dialog boxes you can share if you have a lot of stuff up it can get confusing so
you want to just have um the presentation part of it let's see
what you got here okay now I see thumbnails thumbnails okay not not what I am seeing
go back yeah just go back again um I'm back to my basic
my title bringing up the title again and trying to advance
I can see it advancing on mine is it advancing online no no
I'd share again okay yeah you're just I think you're just
choosing the wrong dialog box okay go back to share screen
well there's each time I do it there's one more of these uh
um title screens showing up in addition to my uh my uh thumbnails that I pick from uh
share oh maybe I'm not licking share
okay we're back to the thumbnails thumbnails yes
this is going to be the death of me
you are scaring you share uh
I think the uh the silliness of this may encourage me to stop trying to do this
because there's something clearly different something is not right with my
own computer it doesn't work like other people's do
and uh when I try to bring make things happen it does not happen like it is
well that's not even there okay
what what what do I need to do here this year
is okay what are you seeing now the thumbnails
up share go back to my ugly face again
and uh bring up screen share one more time before I just pull the plug on this
and say something is not happening right I'm not sure which one do you have other
uh windows open that are instances of you bringing uh things up full stream
um like if you do you know alt Tab and kind of go through
and see what's open on your PC
just just the thumbnail screen okay
and now I've lost the zoom oh I am about to give up on this
this is defeating me
you know what Scott I may not be smart enough to do this I may be able to
navigate to the Moon and back but uh if you would like if you would
like you could email your shots to me I'll throw them into a PowerPoint and I could Advance through them for you we
may have to do that next week okay okay um I I am clueless why I cannot properly
Zoom I mean every time I try to zoom it's it's it's like pulling hens teeth
so uh I apologize in fact I've lost the zoom screen too I I can't figure out how
to get back to where it's not showing up anywhere
okay let me uh let me kill this oh there it is okay
uh okay I'm going to minimize that get rid
of this okay now let's go back
hello
okay one last shot all right do you see my uh title title
slide no I just see you okay Scott we're gonna go to plan B
email you the slides ahead of time and I
apologize for making a rock out of this I just this is this is baffling me no
problem so uh already sorry about that Robert thank
you man thank you alrighty bye-bye bye bye
okay um well it's been it's been a night of uh
some technical difficulties but uh uh we will uh we'll uh zoom over down under to
Argentina once again to uh Cesar brolo Cesar how are you man hi it's called how
are you sure it's a pleasure um enjoy and share with you guys this
night thanks for the audience to watch us
um yes it's a pleasure it's a pleasure every every Thursday that where we we
enjoy together with leeches with a lot of information you know it's normal it's part of the
family when I say okay you have pleasure to share the the
well the the PowerPoint yeah you know I will be completely transparent I
remember putting together a whole program for Global Star Party
a live program oh I could not make it work I could not make it work I couldn't
get the broadcasting to work and so I had to cancel the whole thing right in the middle and so anyways totally
understand so yes absolutely absolutely and well
um today tonight um I inside I'm not in the balcony
because we have a rainy night um my idea to share something live is
impossible tonight and uh but talking about
um you know the the idea of tonight about how about how
um us uh we are made of of what what particular materials
um well I have a presentation with the image um that I took of the sky from my
balcony and I can share with the audience
my presentation
well tell me if you are watching the presentation now yes okay yes we are
lucky okay well um a carbon star scene from Southern sky
from a city balcony is my my Jaguar is a balcony I live in apartment and I have
uh the place that from every every night
I that we share with the sky is clear I
share with you with the audience the sky
um tonight I took the idea to to talk about
um the why the why groups that we call it the movie The Ruby to
because is is one of their the red that if they were exists in English
the the most read deeply rare star in the sky and it's a
caravone star um it's very very near
to Beta Cruces the y
d y Cruise it's uh magnitude star of a 0.3 I don't remember
exactly but this over a and is a star that is not easy to to to
uh to see to watch uh to The Naked Eyes
but very impossible maybe in the city you know do you have the the Bride of
beta cruises and when you when you have so near so
Brig star maybe you have a situation for the naked
eye and maybe using a lot of you know you know that it's got that that when
you use a lot of magnification um the things maybe Nikki also maybe
um before after sorry after make this presentation like this the idea to to
talk about this star I figure when the the guys returned to to be
clear and try to see to The Naked Eyes maybe
with the RC of eight images uh and make a better picture of narrow
field um because tonight I'll I'll show you
um why Phil pictures but where you can see perfectly
the the the real carbon stuff well first of all the axis of the idea of uh
tonight it's uh the components and our body and
why we are made of stars and of course that I choose carbon
to preventing to connect to connect this
this star with our
molecules of carbon in our body where we have in a meat uh
um but you know everywhere carbon is a huge part of our composition
and uh well the first thing that I can show you is
um that is you know because I show a lot of time and a picture with idea
that have an idea of my field of view to the South and South West here in
Argentina Argentina in Buenos Aires Buenos Aires at 35
South degrees latitude is similar to to the people of Emmy
foreign for example in USA if you live in
Atlanta Georgia do you have the same the same latitude
it's a place not no so-called not so warm you know as well it's warming in
summer of course uh not so cold in Winter and
um in the southern first we have the Southern Cross
um practically our in over your head near to the semi
well this is my field of view let me know if you can see the stars
because sometimes we uh if um in the first time the image is is empty
of a star you know because the internet transmission but here do you have the Southern Cross
here I see Alpha and beta Centauri or rigel
Kent beta Centauri here maybe maybe you can a
see very finely a Carina nebula in this area here you
have to um open cluster that we call pleasurable
or Southern plus and well this is the first picture that
I put in the presentation is the near Sensation that you have if you
see the stars in a clear night here in my home in Buenos Aires
in my balcony from my balcony from my backyard and here for the first situation do you
have the idea of the sky how many stars maybe you can see let's start that that
this but you can see at Naked Eyes this one this one maybe this this the
Southern Cross and maybe in this area of villa you can see Karina and Bella you
see sometimes in very clear sky in clears night with low humid
in summer maybe you can see the shiny sky well
this here we have a uh in a night where we have more Exposition we have clouds
two I hear I you can see a much better
Southern Cross you can see it
here with more more uh how do you say well it's more easy to to to see
um completing the another stars in Karina and Veda and
clouds that are going from the from the East to the West in
this picture well this is in a clear night where I
put around 100 millimeters uh reflex camera this is the field that you you
can see now where do you have a Southern Cross here
do you have the devil box cluster here do you have the southern player
this and in this maybe let me well in this part maybe here do you have the
beta Carina that is outside the picture but
you can start to see different colors of the Stars
and this is the star that we are going to to watch and conserve more
where is because it's beta Centauri okay well here you can
see around the the the Field view of 30
millimeters with an APS sensor of a reflex camera where do you
have happy image of a Southern Cross
you can see the the carbon sock here
sorry yeah several box uh well we say crocheto
uh Silver Box open cluster and we are
going to change the position of Southern Southern Cross to start to go
to this area here you can see now a better a better difference between the
red stars and the blue ones
and here now is the carbon star
now I am using over over uh um five and it's a field of view of five
millimeters 500 sorry millimeters where you have seven blocks beta
beta cruises and this one maybe you can see the the
red star this star is very interesting because
it's uh if you compare for example uh with another stars
um you know um or to explain to the audience to to
talk about how astronomers um take the measure of colors of star to
make to take a number they use they use a magnitude the same magnitude that you
say for example this star for example I don't remember now but this beta Cruz is maybe six or or less or three or four
completely but the star um you can say about the color taking
two different filters blue but for B minor the large B and the uh
visible B between green and yellow and
the number of for example if you have if if you need to you put the star
um with the UC with the blue filter okay and you take the number of the magnitude
for blue if you if for example if something is real
through the blue filter is transmitting really small number if a
star is a small number not sorry small line but a small line in magnitude is a
bigger number okay it's opposite for the people well okay we are all uh
amateur astronomers or astronomers and but the higher number for for magnitude are
less dry okay and for example when you when you uh have numbers
here they have a table where do you have here is the is the example that I talk
about how they astronomers take the measures of of uh
um of colors to say uh to take a number
of magnitude of dry in this situation where you have a blue filter
minus a visibility green maybe I I did
this 550 nanometers what is where our retina have the best
sensibility to this to this color and they took the magnitude for blue filter
and the magnitude for disabled filter and you have a number where do you have
this class of stars normal Stars blue stars do you have uh normally minus zero
to three zero point three and you can see how a star in the red ones because
because they they the number of the magnitude with the
blue filter decrease a lot but if you compare the typical red stars
like better juice or [Music] um Antares or maybe stars from the chair
well box that you say okay they are red but the number that normally you can you
can confound is 1.40 you know one one point
51.70 but look that uh the
um I here I put but the white Cruise uh Surplus all these a normal red star
don't go beyond one uh one well person but B minus B
uh plus one point uh Point uh five why
the values of this Ruby star is
5.56 is completely outside the box it's very interesting of course it is a
carbon star but it's a huge how do you say the component is so big that that
really is uh uh very very different star
in the sky and well and of course that
all of these I am not astronomer and everywhere for me is about my curiosity
and my my ideas encourage to the people to make this same a search of it for
information something that was great that when I put uh when I start to
search information in about the Y cruises
I can't get nothing from Wikipedia for uh and say well anybody write something
about this and searching I found uh
um uh uh Blogspot of a friend that this is a
great physics and he make an article very very interesting about
the Y cruises uh many many uh amateur
astronomers uh like guzvallan or Martin today we are we was talking
uh before the show about
um about the Y cross cruises the Ruby and this is very interesting because
when you have a star so out of the box
um do you have something very interesting to show to the people to the
kids you know that every every time we are talking about this and
um and things that today are not so how do you say are
not so um common in the sky and it's something
that you can show to the people when you make uh you
know you make uh uh investigation you know a research but a common researching
Wikipedia with your pictures you can take your own pictures of this like I to
take the pictures from from the city with a small telescope or sorry only
reflex camera and do you have the possibility to to learn about something
different and do you have a lot of course that this is my first step to to
start to know about this star um something was that was great talking
about uh started this totally outside the box is about this Sean Herschel
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sorry uh and look if you read the
the how do you say the impression when him
when sorry when John herself discover
this star watching at uh watching that in the in
the dark sky of course at the night at the night I hear this cry
this star as like a red the most rare
uh deepest mineral that he his watch and
disconnection this connection of the intense thing where I say come out this
is different why this is and you can say the most important thing why how and I I
think that for example he described it is like a drop of blue one contrasted
with the witness the whiteness of beta Cruces sorry with
the English because it's ah it's fine it's fine but but if not you can read
it seems like um you know in studying red stars it's almost like someone
that's that a gemologist that's very interested in rubies you know as well
the most deep red you know the most because they are they are jewel-like you
know yes very much like jewels absolutely absolutely and something that
is incredible is uh tonight where we are talking about this and we are talking
about I choose carbon because I I I thought uh
in in the picture that I took of the Bible um I remember that we I made a
presentation uh connected with uh my friend Pedro salisar and we try with different
filters um how you when you took the blue one
practically practically uh disappear the the star
um it's very interesting and have a lot of things to make uh difference uh
experiments and especially people for kids or you know it's very easy very
affordable to to see in the sky it's a star that you here we can see the entire
year and you know it's uh and this is my my presentation for for tonight
um it's about carbon our body we are made of stars and uh if you if if you
like to to learn more uh here I I can take
um I can give you um this or I can I can copy the links
this is the Blogspot of in Spanish he he work uh he made a a
beautiful article and was very very helpful for me
um I'll now I'll send you if you like and you put the the links
by the chat of our Zoom if you if you
agree with Scott why don't you send that over to me and I will yes because yes
I'm not a specialist the idea of this is another said okay you know I talk about carbon Stars no I don't have idea the
idea is that the people make the same take this way or to make astronomy from
his backyard from it the idea is take the the experiment the idea the the film
The the things about starts out of the box difference or how
we can sense this about pictures my idea well
is is how I can see from the city maybe from the darkest Sky who is the the
sensation of this star between a very very near to a big wide star you know
maybe to feel the same than John Herschel yes yes
hi good to see you I was I wanted to say you know it must be hard when you level
your Scopes out in the dark sky site because you're so used to using buildings to eyeball the level you know
yeah I use that sometimes that trick um when I'm you know doing construction I
have to level something and I didn't have a level so I used buildings or telephone poles
in the background because they are Level so yeah it's kind of a cool trick
it's part of our landscape it's part of our our uh you know and it's it's great
and I I encourage a lot of people that
live in big cities to use the telescope and take every day every clear sky when
it's possible Point your telescope enjoy and you know
well John well you make this yes the moon and the sun are always out and uh
when it's cloudy you can get the moon peeking through um sometimes and so I've been doing a
lot of those here where I live it's it's been clouded for but it's very nice very
cool and absolutely uh last Sunday at night
normally we um with friends we read
with bikes in area that is near from here and some areas we have a lake
forest you know about this Palermo yeah it's in the city is it like a central
small Central Park in the city it's a only four blocks from here it's very
nice to to take a right way ride bike sort of ride bike uh and a lesson last
Sunday we found that the the shadow of the Moon
that you you forget in the city this possibility and you know in Parts where
the lights uh the likes was out of service of the of the road and it's
really a safer place of course no problem but uh we we see the shadow Moon
and something that come on when we forget this when we lost this and if and
you are making a small part of astronomy and enjoying this you know well thank
you everyone great to see you ah it's a pleasure thank you so much all
right okay John uh hello everybody
I'm in the Stars I'm out in the Stars tonight that's right let me show you here yeah that's beautiful
yeah I'm getting some blue light I hope that Quasar didn't blow
but maybe Beetlejuice will go and uh we'll be okay
you know it it should be spectacular I didn't realize how close it was
um but it's actually relatively close uh by comparison you know
it's um Alpha Centauri is probably the closest but you know we'll be we should
be all right God willing god well so how's everybody doing tonight everybody's fine we we had uh it
was a night kind of fraught with some technical difficulties but uh we got through it we had some great
presentations of course you know and uh um it's uh
you know I think that uh I think our astronomers uh you know
gave our audience a very wide range of subjects to think about everything from
red stars to you know the dusty hand Galaxy you know
I'd never seen that I've never seen photographs of that thing before so that was a that was beautiful
um you know David Levy's uh beautiful new uh addition to his poem about his
about his wife dedicated to his wife beautiful yep
um you know learning about the Adirondack you know astronomy Retreat and um
you know uh and and Maxi you know punching his way through the the
internet you know as it was kind of giving him fits and starts and he did finally was able to finish uh to show a
beautiful processing job on on nebula that he was working on so
but um our audience that we got a worldwide audience right now and uh
awesome and you got the stage John I'm so happy and thankful for all of you to
watch this with us because every week it gives me the ability to
have to create work for presentation and um you know it's cloudy so we can't
really do any Star parties or public Outreach so this this is actually uh the
the platform for me now I'm getting used to it it's sure a lot easier on your back you know not having
to carry all those instruments right and uh packed for the the Long Haul but you
know you got to get out when you got an opportunity to see a clear dark sky with
a little altitude you will not believe um what you can see and even in the city like I said the
moon you know Jupiter the planets Venus is still looking really good A lot of
the open clusters M36 37 you know Cassiopeia has a treasure Trove those
beautiful uh clusters and we're at a perfect time right now with uh Springtime Galaxy
season upon us yeah it's it's incredible and then if you stay up all night you
might even make it to winter but right pace yourself it's always interesting to
stay up all night and like three or four o'clock in the morning to start to see some a company yeah good season of stars
you know it's like wow okay this is cool that that first inkling of daylight is
depressing because you know you have to start going for targets that
are more visible so the last time we were at Pine house we were chased it
into daylight and it was just getting light it was still a little blue dark sky and I go I gotta try this filter so
I used that new 03 filter um you know after lumicon and I gotta
tell you right we we pulled it in we were looking at the
yeah you really have to scan your telescope around to really appreciate
the whole thing and then you know you Fade to globular clusters and then
planets and then you're done pretty much toast unless you do solar which they
always make me do I can't say no you know I had an opportunity no I mean
so John you've been up all night uh uh
stargazing and you see the sun come up do what do you do you make yourself take a nap and then oh no no no no no no no
we chased the planets because the best time to look at the planets or the Moon
is like right after sunset or Sunrise when it just acclimates you get this
like little bit of a it's seeing it's perfect and you have color like colors
that you see that you don't normally see and I remember we chased the planets it was an amazing night I was looking at
Mars with um probably 800 to a thousand power with my
final viewers and you know with that kind of power is really steady and Tranquility when it
snapped in microseconds I could see craters and I could actually see that uh
the ice cap was like swiss cheese it had holes where it had been evaporated and
it was actually looked like a like a you know an iceberg or a glacier from you
know it was mind-blowing yeah and uh man that is the best time to look at it and
then of course once the heat started to come it it pretty much turned into a mushy situation sure
but you know we we stay up and you try to sleep uh but you're so excited and
then of course I have my little buddy and he's ready to go and I'm not so I have to stay with him
so it it's a lot coffee is my friend coffee's your pal that's right cat naps
cat naps I call them you know you can close your eyes for a couple minutes 20 minutes half hour you're good yeah yeah
yeah that's right and then when you get home you know what happens thank God I have a wonderful wife that that allows
me a coma that's what happens yeah you just I'm crippled it's like it's like coming home from the hospital if you
just gotta recover
that's for sure yeah okay so I'll start it out um I don't have much stars
because we've been clouded out pretty much and uh hearing from the friends that are watching from California so but
I've been busy because any moment that the moon pops out I'm ready and the
other night it cleared it was an amazing night but there was this thin High Cloud layer with some Haze and then it was
real humid in the Marine layer was you know it's been out there every day almost it didn't quite come in but it
definitely caused this diffuse glow with the wispy clouds and it kind of you know
trying to capture the illumination effects and the clouds going over the
moon it's a different um you know it's it's hard to kind of capture what God
makes look so easy you know you look through the clouds and the way they glow and you try to paint
that and it just takes time finally but let me get started artists have
always tried to have that uh where they could create the kind of uh the glow from within you know oh yeah I mean you
know and I hate to say with uh airbrush was a great way to do that but with this
digital platform and now you know everything's zoom and it's you have to
do this this is the the way of the future I mean sure nobody's reading the
paper they're using their cell phone you know so you got to go with it I mean in that
respect I think people read more than they ever did you know sure I mean there's so much more to read you know
but uh it's a lot easier to hear that reading I don't know you know so yeah
ebooks you know to read some very yeah amazing stuff where you can
choose to read junk you know so did Gabriel come on tonight or um
well let me get started okay all right so
this is my um barrage of images
I've actually getting a little better I hope no tev technical difficulties
plague me tonight now that video has been giving me a lot of trouble
um because again I thought I was home free and I wasn't but I think I have the
best thing to do with video anyways is to give it to me okay try to broadcast it up to me and then I try to broadcast
it back out to them it will choke you know so oh yeah so it's it's better if
if I if you say hey Scott run that video you know and I can well I think I can do
it unfortunately it'll have to be uh off my drive my Google Drive
but I I figured that much out you know okay so this is um I was looking at our
son this is uh a guy that does photography solar work he's
not you know Gary Palmer is amazing but this guy gave me a shot he goes check
this shot out I got it looked like a heart you know yeah at first but you
know I went in and painted this uh from his photograph so I have the convection
you can it looks like it's boiling those little cells outside of the actual
Sunspot and then you see that flare coming out of the middle
uh right out of the middle of that thing yeah and I think that's like where the magnetism is connected so the plasma
funnels up that magnetic line field line and um
you know the scale of this thing that it's bigger than the earth probably
the sunspot it's it's hard to imagine but uh what amazing thing stars are and how they're
formed and the life of a star and the death and it's just a cycle you know it
creates more stuff more planets more gas clouds more
asteroids rocks even white dwarfs and also created us
you know the elements that the stars have in them is basically everything has
in the universe you know I don't know about dark matter but it's got to be everything yeah it's got
to be everything this was a uh Eclipse partial annular I forget which one it was a few
years back that was the orange picture uh this is my picture
uh that I did with my granddaughter that night I showed you when she was out looking through my nine and a quarter
that was the night of uh one of the nights we looked at it and she was amazed she kept saying the Moon is on
fire I go no no it's just the Earth's atmosphere
you know kind of like when the Sun rises in the morning you see that real red or at night it's very similar because
you're looking through probably twice as much atmosphere which has a lot of particulate
you know humidity and different stuff in there so it it changes it
this was another view um modern View see the barbed wire fence that was
that was up there by uh McCoy mountain and see me I just wanted to do something
a little different I think I I went a little too crazy on the Simplicity of the Moon
uh but it's a kind of a cool work up mock-up I like to do different styles
this was the one I was trying to capture when it came out the other night so it
was you know very very diffused kind of you know
masqueraded behind a haze of clouds and I was trying to capture that Essence
and that's okay I mean I'm not a hundred percent pleased but
it's not bad this one was cool because uh I just
looked outside for a second and and there was a huge sucker hole so I go I
gotta get do something because I have to have something ready and and I was painting this on my um phone actually I
started and then the clouds came in and like killed me so I had it like you know
basically the three quarters of the Moon pretty good and then that other part I just I couldn't finish it because I
couldn't really see it plus the clouds were covering it so again I was trying to um you know get
the feel and the look of the moon ascending the clouds was the
title this is another one this was uh you know what I want to tell
you and and you know you got to listen here this telescope that you got me so I
use it for my lunar and planetary work so here's an example of the kind of detail that I'm getting with that six
inch triplet you know I don't know what I like better actually looking at the telescope
because it's so gorgeous and uh I polish it with carnauba so I can see myself you
know inside Then I then I know it's real it's mine it's one of my favorites but
um thank you man I was looking at the moon a few months back another night
that and it was amazing but just take a look at this simplification of my
technique I really like this look at the bottom Isn't that cool how the craters are just
soft and subtle but oh yeah we have depth to them
I mean you know on a good night all Scopes will show this but you know having big telescopes it's
great but if you drop you've drawn all of this well you know I went to college
to learn how to do this so I have a very large skill set to be able to do this
um you know digitally it's really a lot more easy because um you have so many more features you
can go backwards you know back in the day it was sitting at an opaque projector for
maybe a couple hours to try to get capture all those and then you have to
stencil out everything to get it perfect you know because in nature lines are
pretty much perfect you know smooth I mean of course there's exceptions but
you know when I was taught to do realistic pictures you want to have nice straight lines and uniform everything
you know stencil and it's shading you know then you just fill it in it's like a contour drawing
the first paintings I ever got were those like oil painting kits with the
airplane in the clouds and you would paint by number right and I think that's kind of what
affected me you know here I'm trying to capture the Earth Shrine I was getting plus there was some Haze in there too
but I mean I love that telescope it to me is is my um lunar scope my solar
scope even with clusters and the Veil even M51 I could see with it really good
so the the scope you use the most is probably the best scope so one that you
can bring out relatively easy that has you know amazing Optics and it functions
really well thermally with the carbon fiber it's helped me help me a lot get some
incredible images here's another one this was uh one night
my son goes to me dad dad you got to go outside and look
at the Moon and it almost looked like a hand with a pearl you know in the clouds
and again I'm moving quick because you know these things change so the clouds were pretty easy to get in
the basic you know layout and then later I would go in with my digital tools and
create the glow and you know diffuse the background a little highlight some of the clouding and just paint it in you
know painting clouds is pretty easy Once you learn you just have to practice and
there really isn't much to it it's just a style and the more you do it the
easier it gets and I love clouds I love clouds because you know the galactic cloud of our Milky
Way yes and then of course the clouds and galaxies and you know big molecular
hydrogen gas clouds that spawn all these beautiful stars and solar systems like
in Orion there are so many baby Stars being born and um with the big
telescopes the Hubble and James Webb you can see those Bach globules where it's
actually like an umbilical cord of gas feeding off the mother Cloud the baby
star when the baby has just enough it kind of burps up and then Burns off the
tip and that's why our Solar System's here because it burns all the material
away and you know the gases will spiral into gaseous giant planets like Uranus
Neptune Jupiter Saturn and the rocky planets and the asteroid belt the comets
and everything else you know is the leftover remnants
so they're good they're bad you know they kill you but we need them another night naked eye
I just couldn't sleep so I got up to like four three Thirty I had to get up
at four anyway and a Riga was setting but these clouds were there and Mars you
know this is this year when it was closer and it had an amazing glow to it
and so it's Mars and ariga these three stars you see are the constellation
ariga and if you would draw go right through the middle of the two stars with Mars upward to the right you would go
through M36 37 38 I believe it might it might be actually the other
side of the bottom so I think one of those Stars Caster perhaps
cool view though you know you just look outside again Cloud paintings it's real
easy to paint clouds once you practice um you know and lately it seems like
there's been a ton of clouds I don't know we've had a lot
this was uh Keith's crater I didn't crop that too well
um this is uh actual volcanic cinder cone
right near Keith's and uh so you know at one point the moon was
very active probably early on before it you know just died out there's no
atmosphere I'm not sure they may still have some kind of uh activity earthquake activity
because I know they measure those Quakes and it rings like a bell I guess
I suppose yes this is another one I really love this one um so this is a nice open cluster for
everybody if you want to see it something real nice and you know the planetary is a little tougher you got to
use um a filter to get it or be it a dark site or in my case I have the
aperture where it doesn't matter where I'm at I'm going to be able to see it but not as good as when you get out to a
dark site and uh usually you don't see much color in it because your eye doesn't really
see that kind of color um they just appear to be more grayish
kind of like the stars so these Stars every Star I had to you know make a
rough diagram of a magnitude not a correct magnitude just you know shading
magnitude from light to dark and then size so so I was able to come back and
then try to you know put it back together like it actually looked in the eyepiece
hey this is tough this was a tough one to get done right you know but that
that's what it looks like from Mount Pinos with the npb filter
and I think we are using uh one of your 100 degree IP or 98 degree eyepieces Jerry
loan me amazingly sharp and um very comfortable eye relief
and these are the kind of views you can see when you're looking through those big telescopes or
even a little scope will show you a beautiful cluster and you'll see that
little donut right in there with the filter it's amazing
This was um another Orion Theta one orionus it's basically the
trapezium area and um so I tried to
capture the glow again it's pretty hard to get it right
but another cool you know I've done about 500 versions of it by now this is
another uh when I do them I like to work up two three four sometimes to have a
you know stock of different versions because sometimes you go too far or you just
you know don't like it so you delete it because you get mad like I do sometimes when I spent hours on it I just like I'm
getting rid of it and I always before I learn how to use this stuff I would accidentally delete them after hours I
mean one time I did I had to paint the Starfield I think it was a swan
the swan nebula I should go back to that tonight just show you that thing I had it so good like it it
looked exactly and I clicked the wrong button by accident because as I was
working on my phone and um gone gone I yell I used to yell and then now I go
John John it's practice practice makes perfect that's right that's right you know all it is it's like even doing
you know it's the same time when it disappears learning to let go
like when you lose your cell phone so that happened to me yeah and the first
time I I almost died from uh stress from you know just having a conniption
and I got it back and then the second time I told myself you know I'm just gonna let it go
yeah and I it didn't get me thank God I was in my lunch pail that's
can't believe it you know these are fun too when I walk my dog it's a little sketch you know I
used my cell phone for a reference but this is all it's a crow these crows
always follow us when we're um locking probably because they don't like my dog
but it was just sitting up there in that rainbow Halo was up there I thought it
was a cool shot it was shy pretty neat a lot of crows out here
okay so that's it for that now maybe I should try let's see if I
can um do this now I'm gonna try to play my video
so I go to iCloud Drive [Applause] actually I'm gonna have to go a
different way
man I wish I could have seen some of those uh earlier I always watch them afterwards I was again every day so busy
like that so I'm not sure how to get it full screen and it may look small you
can see it just you you don't see the flower
nope that is crazy
no I've been happening all night yeah because you know what it should play right now
can you hear the music barely I heard like a little jingle yeah
this is depressing I gotta figure this I thought I was home free Man
Okay so I guess that's not gonna work so let's just uh
go back to some pictures my apologies you know what's funny is it
works it works it's been a night for this it works when it's here at home and
I do the pre-runs it plays but um there's something going
on with uh the zoom which I'm not quite sure it is hmm
but these things happen so we'll just go back to some photos I've got a quite a
selection of photos I can show you
I can get uh get to some of the flowers Maybe that really frustrates me that that I
can't show you that is depressing
has anybody so I have to send that to you right is the idea
yeah you send it to me okay well here's some other shots
this is a a Hubble these were Hubble I was looking at Hubble shots today for
perhaps a background um but
this mouse is very sensitive I like it though
it's got very smooth action and of course I don't have those other pictures
here because I put them in that file
that beautiful file that I cannot play [Music]
I was just seeing if I had the swan in here somewhere can you see my screen right now when I'm
scrolling through no no oh good there's I have all kinds of pictures in here
all right well let me do this one then let's just go to the Hubble one oh wait
here this is cool okay so that
I think that's uh oh yeah that's nice that's a beautiful picture by Hubble
it's nice beautiful great yeah when you look at that cluster inside there so
that's got to be super massive right yeah is that an mgc 602 or I can't
remember but can you imagine that it's just so incredible what Hubble can do
and and that there's so much Starburst going on
there's the other gas cloud this one is where it belched it like the star
actually hiccups or like belched out they said that's what it said on the title
it was HH 438 or something but that's another that was a cool
picture just seeing it you know like that hole with the clouds it's really amazing
very similar to how our solar system probably formed it burns a whole lot of the gas and then you have your Oort
cloud behind it and this was a Galaxy we looked at
m108 the surfboard that was an incredible night at uh Rodeo
New Mexico we were able to see amazing um detail in galaxies from border one
Skies just unbelievable views
you know that's crazy why it doesn't actually let me try one other thing I think I can do it this way
that flower one was so nice I'm gonna make sure next time I'm going to send it to you so you guys can um
see these I've spent a lot of time ahead of time but it's just not cooperating but this
one will Maybe can you hear it
can you see it Scott no no no no that's crazy great a great block
so I I went to the drive it's in Zoom beautiful black
okay you know remember we are positive people we are
so zoomed up you remember you remember frederated right
when these things go south on me that's what I want to do I want to frederate it
right uh for me it's normal you know I hear that where is Argentina because
we are at all time yeah that you described
it's frustrating at times but you know this is what happens you gotta work through it
you got to get through the trouble uh speaking of stars I could just play a
little bit like this how about this spread carbon star the Campbell's hydrogen star that was
phenomenal uh it's still it's still not showing any images
he had our country for station yes yes don't worry
it's a girl yeah that is funny you can't see anything
okay since you're trying to play some videos but it's not yeah I'm a music or
something oh wait let's see what happens nothing
nothing you don't see anything just me still you see the player controls that's
it these technical difficulties you'd have to figure another way I hate
losing yeah so wait now you can see me now yes
absolutely okay oh I know why I couldn't see the photos that's funny
these these things are crazy these uh technical difficulties
all right let me just go one more time and uh I'll I'll leave you go
we're gonna go to Swanee I think I might have it
yes yes yes yes
yeah you've shown that really nice whoa yeah um this thing here so like I
repainted the Stars the problem is is when you go back and forth
uh the image the Stars degrade so you want to try to paint everything at first
you know these aren't really high resolution files so
if you paint them you want to paint them all at once and that's what happened is I was working on these and I don't just
paint I mean if they're not perfect I start over one star could take me up to an hour sometimes just to get it right
it's it's that bad but um this is like a real amazing view
that we've had through the 32 and the 28 and when you
use the filter in these great eyepieces that we have nowadays you just see the most amazing views and
the most delicate nebulosity and intricate little
mulching and tendrils of gas working through and then the stars are being you
know born pulling fuel that's their fuel to grow
that's an amazing cluster though right I mean nebula
yes a beautiful one almost like a Cubist style or something as well
Picasso uh actually it was um Henry Matisse
did a picture of stars but they're very simplified Stars it's pretty cool painting It's
actually an etching but um I know a lot of these guys painted back in the day
well I think I'm pretty much capped out my my musical thing went South again so
I'm gonna have to figure it out next time okay but thank you everyone I apologize about
the mistake beautiful how how you take the impression of of this in your drugs
in your sketch or your pictures but our pictures like no photography no drawing
but it's impressive for me the sensation of big Optics because oh yeah it's
Sensational when you in in your retina when you have a real dark skies and you
are using over 16 inches or 16 inches is the limit
I I know that that when you start over the
yes 16 inches change everything I don't know why and go ahead of this size
do you have so like Gathering that is impressive and it started to appear
Sometimes some colors that you can imagine or yeah like the trivet the trip
it'll show color you capture the sensation yes yes it's great it's it's
amazing no it's good to do it I mean you know for the public like when we do it
my friend Mike Garrett he's up there with his six inch and solved zwo the air
and he's got his little TV and then people will go over there and compare views but you know of course the camera
view shows a lot of more details because you know it has the ability absolutely
but we we can't a
H we can lose for us the real sensation in our retina the the the things in our
last support in cat America every every one stop to take pictures
and start to uh because we start to to
to hate the right of the screens yeah and the people say I don't I don't like
I I don't need this picture here I I need the sensation in my retina in my
eyes and we start to talk come on we are watching without filter a horse hair or
you know many many yes yes we we was it's possible and you need really
transparent Skies yeah the transparency
Los Angeles have it because it was so well so high 4
000 meters oh yeah but we are enjoying in a very cold night
uh we we say okay I don't need this picture I I need to to enjoy the real thing and
this is amazing yeah
they see um in Italy they've seen the horse head a lot
you know um there's some great uh great people there you know a lot of mountainous
regions has some amazing work coming out of you know for Skechers and
but uh in Italy in in where in the North yeah I think the northern portion uh
there was a fella that was doing some uh photographs and sketches too on that I
stumbled into and he was amazing and he talks about uh being up at altitude you
know that's why Pinos is one of a good place to go right now it's amazing
because you're above the clouds
where they have a more less National Park in Italy maybe yes uh yeah
my brother my brother live in Italy from the 2000 year
so yeah um he he told me that it's very very
dark in in one some years ago we when we went to to
make a hunting that is a like a national sport in this area because uh they are
part of their culture and they told me that the the Milky Way is amazing as any
another place in Europe is because it's uh far away of different places from
Austria or Switzerland you know um it's it's a it's a great place
there's oceans too I mean you know look at Clyde tombow you know there is something to to uh
viewing over water because it you know stabilizes and uh so if you're above the
ocean you know on a Mountain close to the ocean you can get some really good transparency yes yes and here near near
Los Angeles is so empty our population anybody live
because it's very very you have a strong a very landscape totally
empty of maybe you can see some llamas [Music]
maybe a copter I'll say come on and this guy is amazing this zodiac alive is so
intense in it was so intense historical light was over Orion Nebula and we
experiment that was so intense the surgical light that was something like I
say come on it's it's something that you can see at Nike's yeah
almost amazing uh the Milky Way when you have the in the High Altitude you can
say the center of the Milky Way in in this in the uh in the Senate when you told me that that
you went to yeah your country I'm gonna say right now I've got to go back that
that view the tarantula uh at the Karina
there's just nothing that compares to that view yeah I mean it's it is it's
unbelievable and in the southern is like a whole new thing and man I should move
down there and spend the rest of my life there yeah we are we are working in the next
Captain America uh star party in in 12
13 um or well three days in the in here it's a national day you know uh and we
have a holiday weekend um it's in October and maybe next Global
party or to support more I present the complete program uh for Catamarca for
this year and of course you're invited that's great everyone everyone
yes and the prices we need Adrian to go there because yes absolutely absolutely
he needs he needs some good ribs and um because I snow down there the the beef is no yeah yes no here barbecue
bread is amazing I mean yes yes this is this is something that we have the
culture that we received from Spain the Gallegos mostly of Spain people came
from Galicia um we are mostly Italian and all about that
we learn from our grandfathers my grandfathers Came From Italy
um about how to cook the pizza the bread that you told me and we received as a
lot of culture of Spain and Italy and it's amazing mixer with very many uh
Inca food like you know the potatoes the
and it did have uh some at some a lot of sorry of
culturing culinary children and it's amazing of course that me I received
more from my mother from my grandmother after my uh I am maybe 70
uh is I am around 80 of Italian
movies I actually thought you were Italian
many many people yes because many people say the same because uh we have we in
Argentina we talk a Spanish but with Italian accent and
it's it's incredible because when you see a very old movie from Argentina or
or uh recorder maybe in 9010 we speak
different but with a lot a lot of uh people that came in the first uh being
War at the second one uh we changed our Ascent to to Italian accent right yes
what talking in Spanish but it's a different thing and yeah it's the same many times you are from Argentina from
Italy I don't know we have Portuguese Italian Romanian uh there are five
Romance languages they're all very similar to Spanish you know well different a different app for me
Portuguese for example the Marcelo sauce is is I can understand
uh mostly of the things if if he taught
in Portuguese but um it's not the same and it's very difficult but you have a very near uh
language um you need to learn more because you
are more able to make mistakes because you think that they understand and you
can right now is it well for for me the Italian language is something that the
people think that I can speak because my face or my yes right and the Italian
people start to talk me very very fast and say no no no sorry say all these two
words wait a minute yes because you because maybe yeah for example say yes
and none of them spoke English but you know what we're under the stars
and I'm I'm get gestry I started absolutely John and they love it they
love absolutely it's something that that that you um you expose in in the things that
you're telling me now is the same I I tell to Scott once a time I I went in
[Music] 1999 uh to pitch State stargaze and then
start party in Atlanta Georgia and I remember that I told to to Scott for one time that about this star party where in
the in this in this year 23 years ago I didn't have maybe the 25 percent of my
actual English I have no more than 25 of my my the words that I told now that I
understood more and I remember that my wife Evangelina helped me a lot because she really told
very very have a very good English yeah yes um and now they have absolutely the
phone yeah we absolutely he's sure and he helped me a lot and then of course
that we went with our son I would think that everything actually is uh processing pictures and
he's a great amateur Strummer too um we went with Augustine our son with
three years old only and of course that in a moment she told me okay I need to
go to sleep with Augustine you know and she leave me alone with people other
stuff well this time I remember that I remember that you told me that I
remember all things that we told with the people that really start to
understand in Spanish in my hair I say how I remember the things in
Spanish because I start to understood completely all because the the jokes the
the things the the feeling about the things yeah with it
we I did I did that to them I told them um um Australia the muerte which is death
of a star and then I showed them the Ring Nebula
like not like what you would expect it was like an actual type of a painting
you know with Reds in it it was uh it was really cool
stylized you know and absolutely I'm comparing this is yes this is the
feeling feeling drunk that you showed that is exactly exactly right it's it's
something that if you compare with 1999 uh oh yeah was a time where the people
in Atlanta asked me about Argentina where is Argentina is are you because 23
years ago we don't we don't have the connection that we have today where we
know and understand and com um share feelings about politics you know or for
example one of my my favorite jobs in TV is a John Oliver show I say okay why
it's American things but comparing is something that 25 years ago was not the
the same way was the last time of of course that existing globalization but
not in the way where today we are connected because maybe if you start to
say oh you can see uh maybe about um maybe you can know about every
single thing in the world only reading something or the the word actually is
really small about this um yes and this is something that
um were people that we share the sky um we uh connect we are connected in
another way um compared with 25 years ago and now is
something that in this time we started to to to be connected in the in the way
where the people is connected now because yeah
that all the technology all the convergence and everything everything changes astronomers the strong numbers
have been the early adopters of things like email and any kind of digital technology they
were the early adopters of Photography they were scripting uh programs all the
technology that they're using daily today astronomers uh uh were some of the
earliest adopters of all of that stuff so absolutely xiaomi it is time to call
it a night um presenters for their quick presentations
and uh uh we will uh we will see you on
the next Global star party so thank you everybody thank you everyone good night
good night have a great evening take care take care good night bye-bye bye-bye
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