Transcript for Part A:
foreign
so when does the Nancy Roman telescope go up does anyone know
I'm not sure um I heard it was a repurposed military telescope originally am I correct in
that I don't know it sounds right to me
but that's repurposing uh military stuff into
science stuff is always good so yeah I agree I agree it's alleged to be May
2027 but obviously that's you know that
far out it's gonna slide okay that's true
okay here we go [Music]
one of the big terms that people always use is Mars is going to Mars and so you have to have a system that's robust to
whatever Mars is going to do [Music]
one of the main things we do on Mars with perseverance is a collect core samples package them into tubes and
store them in the Rover so that they're available to return to Earth in the future
[Music] we've collected a whole variety of
different types of rocks each can tell us something different about ours if for whatever reason over the next 10
years there's any sort of failure or perseverance where we can't do a direct transfer to the the return Mission then
we need to have some sample tubes placed on the surface to be collected by the future mission [Music]
people are talking in the room there seems to be another image
congratulations everybody [Applause]
[Music] foreign
this is the backup option for picking up the samples it's a massive milestone
it's a big day it's really a wonderful moment made possible not just by the
sampling and cache team but by the team as well and it's pretty great okay I
think I have to stop now when it works on another planet you
can't really use words to express that feeling of joy and pride and satisfaction and to do it with teammates
that you've gotten to know really well and respect a lot is just priceless
definition
[Music]
[Music] hey everybody I hope you're ready for
another Global star party this is our 123rd event and uh so we have a
wonderful lineup uh a new face and um I
hope you really enjoy it this the theme of This Global star party is Charlotte Reflections and I kind of find that
that's what a lot of amateur astronomers eventually they'll reflect on kind of
the experience of it and the feeling of it and you know for some of us it's kind
of hard for us to put into words but uh our our uh our presenters really do
their best job in trying to do so uh if you haven't noticed they were right out
in front of the sports scientific building today where we broadcast uh simulcast all over the world on social
media channels but uh I found this really cool quote from
Nikita Gill and Nikita says that we have calcium in our bones iron in our veins
carbon in our souls and nitrogen in our brains we're 93 Stardust we should be made of
flames we are all just stars that have people's names I love that that's cool
anyways uh starting uh kicking off a global star party in 123 uh will be
David Levy who is going to introduce a friend uh Mark zadarski hopefully I
didn't ruin that name but uh anyways he's never been on global star party before and he's going to be talking
about the Adirondack astronomy retreat David eicher is continuing a series of
uh of Dave's exotic deep Sky objects with the dusty hand Galaxy Tara Lord
president of the astronomical League will be joining us for a little while uh to talk about the league and anything
else that's on his mind Maxie filari is with his astrophotography to the max he'll be on
and then we're going to take a 10 minute break and we'll come back with Connell Richards and connell's Cosmos Robert
Reeves and Postcards From the moon now then sentel Kumar uh young
astronomer uh I might have mentioned that Navin and his father went to the Northeast astronomy for him and I was
happy to meet him in person so that was really cool Adrian Bradley uh in chasing
Dark Skies um with his amazing uh nightscape
photography John Schwartz and drawing out the universe and Cesar brolo will wrap it up with us about the red carbon
star Dy crusies anyways I'm really happy that you guys have decided to tune in
tonight and uh we'll take it away [Music] thank you here we are uh everyone uh
it's great to be back again on Tuesday night for Global star party and we are
here with a great lineup of speakers as usual I think I put I put in that our
speakers uh our astronomers are actually astronomers that that are made of Stardust I just thought I'd point that
out so anyhow if that wasn't obvious to you
no one does an introduction like that sorry guys anyways let's get started by our first
astronomer made of Stardust and that would be David Levy David thanks for
coming on to Global star party thank you before I start I started Scotty is it
possible that you could send me a recording of last week's GSB because I
kind of like to listen to part of it of course of course I could okay
okay one of the things that Scott and I were talking about was that for the
poetic reading I asked him permission to read Wendy amongst the Stars again
because I've done some uh tweaking to it and I'd like to give it another shot
and uh Scotty's reaction was you don't have to ask me to do that of course you can do
that so here I'm doing that the rhyme schemes for this poem I chose the
Tennyson in memoriam stanza and uh here is the poem that I wrote
during the day of extraordinary depression a couple of weeks ago and I've been
tweaking it ever since each day I awake today is today I look
towards her she is not there my heart goes on but do I care well
anything anything let in a ring the night is dark as dark as cold
the sky is stars from west to east from south to North just like a feast a pill
have been sent to call my soul a telescope stands stands and waits for
my eye it asks just one brief look forward through space like an open book
and back through time open wide Escape I see a star why is it there
lapis philosophorum Philosopher's Stone that strikes the night it ushers me home as part of a pattern
to learn I dare but the reason not general relativity gravity's geometry no
Speck of thought no idea Works no system but a newborn thought of creativity
she's a part of me a beam of light amongst the stars in the sky a star not
there but there her soul so far from grief to Joy all through the night
and now I'm going to introduce a real pleasure to introduce a dear friend Mark
zadorski I have known him for years because we uh we have been together at the
Adirondack astronomy Retreat since it started a lot of years ago
in a way it started in 1964 on a summer camp the Adirondack science camp I was
there and fell in love with the place I would say about 50 nanoseconds after I arrived that I
never lost Madeline is held near Lewis New York just south of
Plattsburgh uh coincidentally it is going to be in the path of the total solar eclipse next
year Trump quite probably sold a lot of clouds but uh it is in the back
and uh what we do now is we have every summer a retreat there and the spirit of the
retreat is to remind ourselves why we became observers and passions about this guy in
the first place and Mark has given a number of presentations about the retreat and it
is my deep honor now to introduce Mark to talk about this year's coming up Adirondack astronomy retreat
hi David thank you very much um yes as uh David says I've been going
to this Retreat uh for many years and it has a very uh special place in my heart
um so without further Ado I'll just see if I can share my screen and
we'll start talking about the retreat
okay here we go so it's uh now been renamed
the uh David and Wendy Levy Adirondack astronomy treat in honor of Wendy
um so it's a summer astronomy vacation um so the whole point the whole idea
just as David said um is to go and uh
find out the reason we find out the reason why we became astronomers in the
first place um I also like to uh dedicate this talk uh to Wendy uh because without her
um this Retreat wouldn't have become the very special thing uh that it has become
and without her her effort and her friendship and her love um this this Retreat would not have been
the um or at would have been as special as it is uh today
so as David loves to say uh we go up there to recharge our astronomical
batteries we go up uh and we observe under our dark sky we relax
um many of us uh do astronomy Outreach and we we work with the public all the time which is you know what we love to
do but sometimes we want to go and observe uh for ourselves
um and not that we don't love newcomers we always do but it is a quiet place to
go up there observe with friends uh and just you know be under a pristine sky at
least for the East Coast anyway so yes uh they Retreat started back in
2004 uh I started going there around the year 2010 if memory serves uh and yes uh
David has uh childhood ties to the camp uh and uh this became an astronomy
vacation for uh many of us and as many of us know that uh David uh
uh was co-discover of the uh Shoemaker Levy nine comic uh and this year is a
kind of special it's the 30th anniversary of the discovery of uh
Shoemaker leaving nine interrupt you for just two seconds yes would you imagine the uh Discovery events online this is
one of the films that we took that night that has the discovery image of
Shoemaker leaving 9 on it oh wow I thought I'd show it to you oh we need to preserve that in some way
that would be wonderful um yeah
um so where is it located uh so it's uh Twin Valley campsite uh up
in it's owned by SUNY Plattsburgh so I'm by uh State University in New York
um it's sponsored by uh one of the astronomy clubs I belong to the nurtures the astronomical group uh and so the if
you would look at it for an address it would be located in uh Westport New York or Lewis New York depending on what
Google search you do but it's right on the border of the of the two uh two municipalities
um so the uh if you're coming from you know a major metropolitan areas like you know
New York City uh it is a four to five hour drive depending on uh how leisurely
you go up there um but it's also you know accessible pretty easily from many of the
neighboring states um so many of us also are come from
Canada uh so I'm from Montreal it's about an hour and 45 minutes or so but
when you get there and you come up to Twin valleys uh twin valleys Road um you'll come all the way to the top of
the road and you'll see the observing field uh and the main cabin where you
check in and all of the uh small uh cabins that are that line the observing
field uh in the background what time of year well obviously uh we
want to go and if when there's no moon because you want to go for uh um the uh the dark sky and usually it's
in July and August and this year it's still uh between July 16th and the 23rd
and so we have uh technically uh it's two sessions and you can combine them
for the whole week many of us do uh particularly in the Northeast because we have uh Cloudy Skies so often
um but we also have activities in the afternoon uh talks and all night dark
sky observing um so if you do come um just remember
um that the retreat one starts from Sunday to Wednesday Retreat two is
Thursday to Sunday now if people ask what happens to Wednesday Wednesday is called an interim day so that's kind of
a day where um you know the people from the first Retreat are leaving and then then the
second Retreat May begin on Thursday uh but many folks decide to add that day
on there um so on the interim day there usually aren't
any talks but we often go to the uh Star Trek tour in Ticonderoga which is quite
wonderful um accommodations um this is an interesting Star Party most star parties uh you are camping out
uh under Stars you bring your own tent uh here we have
um you can bring a tent if you wish uh but we do have uh 12 cabins we also have
in the main tab in the main main building uh men's and women's dorms uh
and so we have full bathrooms and showers and a kitchen uh which is kind of nice
um believe it or not it's a little it's a little bit more cozy than uh you know laying on the uh the hard ground
um the cabins can sleep up to six um they also in particularly if you come
in a family or a group um you will basically put you all together so you don't have to worry
about you know uh sleeping in different quarters and whatnot um so this is kind of what it looks like
on the inside um usually there's only one or two people per cabin uh we don't go crazy
overcrowding the place but we can they can hold up to six people
um and this is what it looks like uh inside the main hall uh this is where we eat we have our talks
um and we plan our activities uh for the day uh so the food schedule which is quite
wonderful um um we're late risers so breakfast is 10 in the morning uh you know we have a
light lunch around one o'clock and uh dinner at uh 6 p.m
uh and all night long uh there are snacks and coffee in the main Lodge for uh people
who do do their all night observing you can come in and take a break from all that
uh the meals are included um the breakfasts and dinners are
catered by Chartwells the lunch is kind of a light lunch prepared by uh some of the the regulars uh usually uh Lori and
Patrice uh sometimes myself um but the catered food is has gone a
step up especially last year when we started the retreat again first time after covid um they've hired Gourmet
chefs and this you know before um they would bring pre-prepared food now they prepare it in front of you
there in our own uh in our own kitchen which is quite nice uh what do you do when it's rainy or
cloudy so obviously there's no observing um but uh attend easel bring movies or
music you know a lot of singing going on uh we also do impromptu presentations
and trivia games there's always something to do um ask photographers who may have done
some Imaging the night before uh they'll get a chance to show their images to the uh to the group as well at least they're
raw images hiking um also you know usually on the interim
day some of us will go hiking or if it's we know it's going to be cloudy during evening we'll go and take a hike but
there's there's plenty Trails on the site and they are taken care of by uh SUNY Plattsburgh themselves
uh the talks and presentations are quite varied um and they can be you know quite data
driven and Technical um like some on spectroscopy and and whatnot and some can be very
experiential in nature and uh there's something for everyone with all these talks
um so here's just a couple examples um some folks will give a talk about their astronomy vacation at uh doing
auroras um sometimes we'll do things about meteorites poetry and everything in
between uh so the one thing we like to do on the
interim day is take a 40-minute drive to Ticonderoga uh to the Star Trek
Experience which is kind of a Star Trek Recreation Museum tour uh and sometimes
some of the Next Generation cast members and original series cast members will be there to sign autographs from time to
time but uh you get to go through and tour the entire uh Enterprise uh and
some of the pieces there are original pieces for instance the harp in the meeting room is actually an original
piece and it's signed by all the original series cast members it's pretty amazing to see
so back on the grounds um on site we do have a uh
uh 14 inch meat Schmidt Casa green which uh well it's 200 which we actually got
working again last year uh so that's available for attendees to use uh we'll
also uh try some electronic assisted astronomy out of that telescope this year
um essentially it's those unfamiliar with it it's similar to video astronomy where he was an astronomy camera and you
bring down images on a screen um we'll do them inside the observatory and not outside as to uh not blind
anyone out there obviously um but it's still going to be an interesting experience
so the observing field shows all the directions quite well um depending on where you set up uh and
uh so going back to this you know satellite image most people here tend to set up
near the main this main observing Field Road right here on either side of the of
the um of the pond uh South is kind of this direction Here If You Can See My My by
by the main Lodge and North is kind of up by these cabins over here generally speaking
um most of your Milky Way photographers and when I get Milky Way shots uh tend
to go in this back area over here behind the pond you get a really really uh good view of the Milky Way
um but there's you know plenty of room for everyone on this field
so again it's a place to where friends meet and relax um 30 years you get to look through
other people's telescopes of varying types and sizes
um and uh it's it's quite the relaxing experience
also um we have a 16-inch dobsonian uh for
attendees to use it was donated by skywatcher USA uh with one caveat uh in
the middle of the night you'll find David looking searching for comets so he he gets first dibs without anyone uh
also speaking of David if you ask him nicely he will go and sign your telescope for you
um in fact I think a attendee brought one of the explore scientific comment
Hunters uh last year and David saw that it touched his heart and he signed it
right away it was quite nice um so getting down to observing uh how
do you do that in in in this type of climate so we tend to set up uh once
just for the for the whole week you know or for half the retreat without however long you stay
um how do we do that so a little bit of preparation is uh always uh helpful here
so things that you want to bring um some extra tarps to the ground and for
your telescope uh obviously bug spray because um there's lots of mosquitoes uh
potentially depending on uh the temperature um both warm and cool weather close
um because I've it is in the Adirondacks it's generally not uh it's generally not oppressively hot but we have had 90
degree days in in the past and we've had days where it was up in the upper 40s in
the past so I would say you know prepare for low 50s at night you know and
um prepare for you know 80s in the afternoon uh bring a
12 volt power supply some extension cords uh yes you can plug in uh there's
electrical outlets by The Observatory and some of the cabins will run cords which will help and make sure you bring
do prevention um this play this site is notorious for having
um lots of uh condensation so if you have a casa grain telescope or anything
along those uh you know with a large lens that's you know uh not uh doesn't
have a do shield and even if you do have a dew Shield you want to make sure you have uh
um a dew heater also uh telegizmos cover for your telescope uh sunscreen uh
pillows and sheets for the cabin and a red flashlight um we don't we don't look we don't want
to have a white uh light on uh observing nights particularly when it's clear outside uh that will ruin your dark
adaptation um also you'll notice in the large picture at the bottom you see these
tents and those are actually not people camping those are garage tents um so some folks will use them uh to
store their equipment their eyepieces and then from the weather uh and the Astro imagers will actually go in there
and put their computers in there a little table uh so they can not disturb
the visual observers so it's just uh just so you get the idea of you know you know some common courtesy there
um some other accessories so this was you know a few of us set up we put our tarps together but you can see there's a
tarp on the ground and uh the tarps over the telescopes a
telegues most cover right uh if you happen to have a mass-produced dobsonian
with particle board uh I highly recommend having a tarp beneath the telescope as well as putting one above
it uh the reason for that if it does rain uh water can sometimes get trapped
underneath the tarp right um so the idea here if you see this little picture you will fold up the
lower tarp underneath the upper tarp and bungee corded no water will get in and it'll preserve your telescope
just some you know tips from people that have been doing this for a long time things you pick up and you learn the
hard way so this site is is got very little light pollution where bortal two three
particularly if you're looking South and West it's definitely you know you're looking into a um a a rural Sky if
you're looking north and east there is a small light Dome you can see in the picture down here uh down below that's
uh Burlington in the distance there but uh overall not that obtrusive
um so what can you see at a sky a dark sky site like this in the in the Northeast
well if you're used to White pollution if you look at hypothetically you look at m42 and you can see it here late in
August in the early morning if you're in a you know uh an urban area
or suburban area you can barely see the nebulosity maybe right near the trapezium right uh that AAR uh I've seen
it you know through my 12-inch top with all the tendrils and the nebulosity and
and it's just expansive and beautiful and it's just a visual observation uh not a photographic one it's you know so
take that and and run with it so if you're an imager all of your images
will be much shorter uh and you're uh your exposures will be shorter and the objects will show a lot
more detail um the Milky Way is abundant here uh I've
seen my shadow from Venus which is uh pretty astounding that surprised me
um we do get some meteor showers a lot of robes but also the Ada Aquarius particularly towards the end of July
uh we sometimes see um dim comets just ask David what's you
know possibly up and he may be able to point the way to you know you know a 12th magnitude uh comet
um so all the things you see at you know your Suburban Sky or your low-hanging
fruit uh star clusters globular clusters nebulae
um where they would be averted Vision these are mostly direct Vision uh so
it's that little light pollution um all of your you know Lagoon trifid
Swan um and uh the veil in particular you
know use an O3 filter um are astounding matter of fact my favorite view of the veil came through
our friend David rossiter's uh 25 inch Obsession uh I will never forget that
image in my mind and so the closest thing I can come to it is this color picture up here
um a picture of that in black and white and that's pretty much what I saw through the uh through the eyepiece uh
in his telescope you know galaxies m33 you can see that
without Optical Aid uh on a really good night uh M31 uh instead of just seeing
the core you'll see dust Lanes even in a smaller scope an 8 inch scope we'll uh
show that to you uh also I'd advise make an observing
list uh because all of your IC objects NGC objects uh will be uh available to
you to see visually so uh we also do group pictures so um
both Retreats get a group picture which is kind of nice and the whole group gets uh sent that
and uh just to reiterate this year the dates are um Sunday July 16th uh through
Sunday July 23rd and there is a registration link if you decide you want to go and register uh
it's Adirondack astronomyretreat dot squarespace.com
um so that'll take you to the the registrations fighting uh SUNY
Plattsburgh takes care of the uh the registration um how much does it cost
um it does each Retreat for adults are about 330 dollars
um if you take the whole Retreat it's 710 but that also includes meals on the interim day
um so for children it's it's cheaper obviously you know 12 and under uh 165
uh per Retreat uh and um that
coming to the conclusion so it's a week of astronomy in a uh dark sky uh for the
East Coast this is dark um it's a cozy vacation with good people and when I say you make lifelong friends
you really do um I've uh this the people here even
more than the dark sky uh keeps me coming back year after year after year and uh I talk to them you know by email
and phone uh people you know that you've become friends with and they're they
could be in Canada they can be on the west coast um you make lifelong friends so uh just
want to say thank you uh and if there are any questions um
it's uh Adirondack astronomy Retreat gmail.com and uh Patrice will get back
to you as soon as you can thank you thank you Mark yeah yes and I did share
the um I did share the link to your Squarespace webpage so thank you
yeah all right I have a question yeah actually it's a personal one one of
the very first pictures you showed was a picture of you and Wendy and I
believe that the other one was Martha yes I'm wondering if you could send that to me I sure can I absolutely can I have
completed a slideshow for my remembering Wendy talk
that I'll be giving there and I'd like to include that picture absolutely not a problem okay could you
give this talk many times this is the best thank you thank you
David appreciate it thank you Mark thanks for coming on to Global star party and uh know that you are always
welcome to come back so thank you Scott really appreciate it okay that's great well up next is uh uh David eicher
editor-in-chief of astronomy magazine and uh he is going down a list of
several hundred uh exotic deep Sky objects and this one is called do I have
this right David it's the dusty hand Galaxy the dusty hand Galaxy never trust
popular names for deep Sky objects ever because either these were really bored
people or they were on some controlled substance I think many of these names
they make no sense whatsoever but this is what it's called the dusty hand Galaxy okay
so I will take it away take it away I will share my screen I'll see if I can
find the right thing to share and I will start a slide show
and um can you see hoag's object a very unusual ring Galaxy there well this has
nothing to do with anything forget about that it's just a pretty picture but I do like that object I think we'll get to
Hawaii's object you know about three years from now in this succession of objects but not yet
so today I thought I would talk about indeed it's called the dusty hand Galaxy you may actually know it better by its
NGC number which is 23.46. it's a barred spiral in
camelopartilus which is an s b s a b peculiar Galaxy because of some
interaction with a much smaller Galaxy which we'll see in a moment here
it's a fairly dim Galaxy but not super dim about 11th magnitude overall in V
magnitude it's uh respectably large compared to what we talked about last
week it's about six arc minutes across so you know kind of an average Joe a little bit brighter than an average Joe
Galaxy as we might call it uh it's about 70 million light years away the dusty
hand one you know one day we'll get to the bottom of this maybe maybe
can't promise anything but you know boy so anyway the interesting thing about
this whatever kind of hand it is it shows some warping and peculiarity uh Holton ARP was interested in this galaxy
because there's a smaller Galaxy that's not very creatively called NGC 2146a
that is uh tidally interacting with this Galaxy and so it's causing some unusual
form in the shape of the disc and and some title interactions with the Dust
it's about 80 000 light years across so this is a Galaxy that's a little smaller than the Milky Way and it's uh most
notable this isn't a very well studied Galaxy not not like the one we talked about that's pretty obscure last week or
or a few weeks ago before my vacation forgive me but uh but this is a relatively uh uh minimally studied
object um it does have a fairly High rate of star formation so it's classified and
presumably because of that interaction uh it has been tweaked into being what
astronomers call a starburst Galaxy with a fair amount of current star formation
let me see if it really really wants us there we go it wants us to go forward
about 10 times and we'll get to a uh star Atlas here the little tiny piece of
Ron stoyan's star Atlas the interstellarium Deep Sky Atlas a really nice combination of detail and
portability and you can see the dusty hand here
so this is the object and you can see how distorted it is imaged by Mark
Hansen uh he's one of the great imagers around these days and uh this is really
a curious object you can see why it caught the attention of Holton our and
others early on because of all the Warped detail of the of the disc
here's a Hubble image of the dusty hand which of course is magnificently more detailed we don't yet have a web image
that I know of of the dusty hand but you can see there's a lot of star formation going on even fairly close to the
Galaxy's Hub and nucleus here with these in in this image the way it's it's
colorized they appear sort of as Rusty orange H2 regions star-forming regions
here so there's a lot going on much more so than a typical Galaxy which operates at
a very slow formation of of a star or two per year like the Milky Way
and that's it that's the dusty hand so I encourage you to get out and look at it this is also a big moment in the history
of our magazine here because it took half a century but we finally made it to the 50th Anniversary issue which is now
just going off to the printer and will be out in August so we have some special
features about the uh you know looking forward half a century and what may happen always interesting stories to
write speculating about the future looking back in all the great stories that have happened over the last half
century that the magazine has covered and dream Carl Sagan's Widow the
executive producer of Cosmos has written a special uh story as well as Dave
Walter the brother of the Magazine's founder who who was basically was the publisher of astronomy magazine in its
early years I wrote a story about the history of the magazine and all the crazy stuff that's happened I've only
been there for 40 in the 50 years though so part of of it is an assumption and then we've talked about the hobby of
astronomy and how it's evolved over time and also Imaging which of course has really rapidly evolved Imaging is really
unlike it was even 10 or 20 years ago here as you guys know so that's a special issue it's oversized
it has extra pages and then I will mention once again the book that I've written recently with Michael bakich a
child's introduction to space exploration to uh inspire a new generation of kids to get into that new
era of public and private space also I'll mention very quickly if I can
Scott we was involved in this as well we've we've fairly recently announced
that there will be a new starmus Festival upcoming next year just about a
year from now and it will be in Bratislava Slovakia and we have all
sorts of special surprises and performers and speakers astronauts Nobel
Prize winners rock stars and others who we will have there a year from now and
Scott I think you're going to be involved in this again with a star party and with all sorts of special yeah
so I don't mean to speak for you Scott but but I think we'll get you uh that
into my account right now what's what's that can you put that into my calendar right now so yes put it into your
calendar okay you know what you guys if you have not been to starmus yet you can't not live
the rest of your life and not go to starmus I mean you will this is it is
beyond a uh a bucket list kind of thing so you really need to go
um uh you will be you will be left uh transformed
that's the only way I can say it you will be changed and it's really actually easy to get
over to those European cities some people have asked me you know why won't starmus be held in the United States and
there is a substantial amount of government support where we've done starmus uh and can you imagine the
United States Congress voting to fund a science festival I'm not going to hold my breath maybe it'll happen but uh the
United States Congress I'm not sure is familiar with science let alone the supporting of it so um anyway it's
happening in Europe again and uh it'll be a it's one of the you know sort of plagues that our founder and director
Garrick israelian has is that each one has to be bigger and bigger and better and crazier than the last one so there
are a lot of special surprises coming up with that and Scott I think you'll be involved with the star party once again
so that'll be lots of fun I it's it's conveniently going to be uh held about
five weeks after the total eclipse in the United States so thank goodness
we're not dropping it on top of a big Eclipse uh so you'll be able to go see the eclipse David I think David Levy I
think will be there as well next year you'll be able to see the eclipse and then go over and relax and rest and
listen to some great talks about science moving the the planet forward taking
care of the planet and also some rock and roll awesome awesome so thank you Scott as
always I will turn it back over to the head guy okay all right well I'm not really the
head guy but you know I get to hang out with you guys who are actually all the heads so
um we are uh moving right along now uh we
um have astronomers that are uh come from a a lot of uh diverse
areas in our community you know you've got an editor of a magazine here that
the magazine uh the world's most popular astronomy magazine you've got David Levy
who has given his life towards uh astronomy Outreach astronomy education
and his love and passion to search for comets um Mark said
zadarski did I say that correct mark okay big thumbs up all right that's good
Mark who is going to be running a an amazing uh
Retreat experience I wish I could get away and do it myself as I was listening
to this and you know David has begged me to come many times um it has just always been something
where work got in the way and so but I know that you guys have a great time there and I know that people uh really
do benefit from this um and the next speaker that we have coming up is none other than the
president the astronomical League which is the world's largest Federation of astronomy
clubs they have over 20 000 members and hundreds of astronomy clubs are under
its umbrella and so uh they're they're observing programs they're uh their long
list of awards and recognition programs that they have uh there's something for
everyone at the astronomical league if you don't belong you're not a member you
got to join so um we're going to turn it over to uh Carol Orange
thank you very much Scott it's a pleasure to be here and uh thank you for your kind comments and
I would like to report that the Restorations are coming along nicely for Baton Rouge but there's still room so if
you're wanting to attend a very special uh event with lots of speakers and
including two or three who are on this broadcast tonight come on down we'd really love to have you
and now I would like to share my screen
you see it not yet yeah here we go all right
um okay we're good now
yeah I'm also an amateur at this award bear
with me please very nice picture of you though yeah it is
okay
you have to hit the green share screen button create the uh screen that you
want to share and then commit to it okay here we go
how's that sorry sorry there's still no luck we're going to
make this happen yeah I bet you I do find that sharing a full screen
seems to work better than sharing an app I've seen some troubles with that but
okay I have nothing but faith that you're going to get it steal them up there huh not yet oh yeah
this is interesting all right let me go one other place and we're gonna make this happen
foreign
is that good you're good but no
okay you can talk your way through it yep we might have to do it here in just
a little bit we're not going to give up Point yet but yeah you have the the green button
above your your panel I've got the sugar the share button okay the share button
and then you have to click the window that you want to share if you put the
first one is going to be there all your computer but if you select another
single a window it will be that only window
and then you you put share and that's all
okay and I'm sorry guys we are gonna get there I think
we're gonna make it happen yeah you can do it Carol you can do it
well I've got it on my desktop and that should work
you have multiple screens Carol I just have the one it's all okay
okay and so I'm going to slideshow I'm going to
share and I'm going to
go to where my file is which is on the desktop
and are we there no okay I think we're just gonna have to
uh talk through it okay okay um in Kansas City we have got a
Club world-class science engineering and Technology Library it's located at Linda
Hall Library that's the name of it and it's noteworthy because uh uh it is
world famous for the collection of rare books in The Collection
and if this had been working I was going to go through the various uh various
very star analysis of the world in fact the title of the talk is the Golden Age
of the celestial Atlas and exhibition of rare books from the collection of the Linden Hall Library
one of the primary ancient literary literary sources in the constellations were from against
from venison 1482 and the residents and the Renaissance the work was usually attributed to the
Roman historian C Julius hygienists who lived in the first century BC but now we know it was
probably composed by some other person with the same last name at a later date
the uh poeticon astronomicon was published
in 1482 in Venus although this early edition had start
positions indicated they have little to do with either the positions described by him or the actual positions in the
stars in the sky and the image I had here if we could see it was a wood cut version of Perseus
the next uh Atlas that's part of the special exhibition that they have now
committed to an online uh situation it used to be strictly at the physical
location they put special events together but now it's totally online I'll have a link for that just a little
bit later the second major Atlas that was uh published was by Johann Bayer in Raleigh
metro in 1603 that one contained 51 Star Charts one for each of the traditional
48 called mag constellations plus a chart of the newly discovered Southern
skies and two planospheres one of the main features of this book is
that it was an atlas a collection of maps rather than a pictures each plate has a carefully engraved grid
so the star positions could be read off to fractions of a degree
these positions were taken from the catalog of Taco Bry which had circulated
in menus in manuscript in the 1590s which was only printed in 1602 and one
of the main features of that 1603 uh publication was the fact that this
marked the introduction of a new system of Stellar nomenclature Greek letters
were assigned to The Brighter Stars generally in the order of magnitude another novelty of Bayer's Iran Metra
was the inclusion of a plight of the Southern stars discovered by 16th century voyagers
it also included 12 new constellations one of the odd features of the aroma
urana Metra is that Bayer chose for some reason to show many of the human
constellations from the back even though traditionally they all face us unfortunately this caused lots of
problems for other astronomers as well and they did some changing in the next publication of a major Atlas
in 1690 Johannes velius published his work
and this was the first star Atlas to rival Bears urana Metra in accuracy
utility Innovation and influence it is unique Among The Grand atlases in
choosing to depict the constellations as they would appear on a globe that is from the outside looking in rather than
from a geocentric point of view as bear and others adopted is that was also introduced to 11 new
constellations they all seem to add new ones as they were going along uh not all they survived some were uh some were
added to other constellations over the years then in 1729 John flamsteed published
his Atlas called lettuce in London he was the first astronomer Royal of
England and presided over the building of Greenwich Observatory he was a dedicated observational astronomer
he also published or after his death actually the British catalog of stars
was published in 1725 well after his death and it brought Stellar astronomy
to a new level histor Atlas was published four years after the catalog but had been in
development for over 20 years and it was based on flamstadt's new more accurate observations
blemstad objected to the reversal and the appearance of Bayer's earlier depiction of the constellation figures
then to end the Golden Age of the celestial Atlas we had Johann Bodhi who
published his publication in Berlin in 1801. if the Golden Age of the celestial Atlas
began with bears publication it ended almost exactly two
centuries later with bodhi's uranographia the largest star Atlas that has ever
been published and it also had the positions of more than 17 000 stars as well as just about
every constellation ever invented and no less than 25 nebulae that have been
discovered and cataloged by William Herschel practically everyone proposed since
uh hebelius is included here as well as five brand new ones
and the next slidey uh I'm going to give that and I'll send that to you Scott I'm
going to copy the link to this exhibition okay we'll put that in the uh
in the uh text there the chat and if my
sister had been working correctly tonight uh the next thing I would show you is a picture of our one and only uh
David Levy from 2015. and that was featuring him
and several uh uh trustees from the Linda Hall Library
as well as their president they the picture shows uh of his observation logs
many of which uh are stored at the Linda Hall Library
and earlier in the month of September of 2015 David presented his observation
logs to the Linden Hall Library following his lecture writing the same book over almost 60 years a record of a
not watchman's Journey under the night sky and then David wanted me to also let
everybody know that in addition to his observing uh logs which are a part of
the collection at Linda Hall Science Library he also don't his donated his
first telescope a 3.5 inch Sky scoped to LHS as well
so that is my talk uh and thank you so much and so sorry of
the hassle with the it is no problem there's no problem no still a good talk
now we could probably I guess a last resort would be to email it to someone
and have us present and we work together on it the talk was still really good so
um we still got a lot of good information out of it even if technology didn't want to help us thank you so much
I I'll admit I'm an amateur at this at times as well and I apologize for that but anyway that's that's my talk and I
wanted to make sure we recognized David his collection at Thunder Hall and one thing I might say about the uh rare book
uh election at Linda Hall those rare books uh one can set an appointment at
the Linda Hall library and go out and physically touch those ancient manuscripts oh my God
and they have in addition to Star atlases uh they also have many first
edition books astronomy books as well as other scientific books so if you're ever in the Kansas City area I would really
encourage you to stop by and we can make the arrangements to make that happen so
thank you so much do you yourself um uh get in Carol do you or does the
astronomical League get involved at all with the Linda Hall Library yes we have been involved uh actually
anytime we've had a strong convention in Kansas City we've always had some kind of a rare book display for our patrons
that come to the convention whether it's a national Convention or a regional and so there it's it's really uh uh they
have really uh uh updated their capability of sending uh data and
articles to the whole world so you can get online uh go to Linda Hall if
they're you're doing research about a certain scientific uh uh appeal to study
they can email that information to you they make it very seamless and very easy to do research and and it's it's I would
highly recommend it great awesome okay well thanks very much and uh
um again uh if uh if you guys are if you don't belong to the astronomical League
uh definitely visit their website um uh at astrowleague.org
and um the other thing I'm going to recommend
that you do is you tune in to their astronomical League live programs they
have special speakers on I don't know who the next speaker will be for the next event they
are yeah do you recall the date and I believe it is the second Friday of this
month in fact it's coming up I believe only maybe the 16th and over that but
it's a week or two and we'll be publishing it so make sure you uh check on the league web page we'll be
published in that and I I think that's it and I'll put it maybe actually it
might be on the ninth the other thing I'm going to point out is uh the Mid-States Regional Alpine uh is
happening in Tulsa Oklahoma on the 9th as well that that starts over the weekend
uh uh one of us from explore scientific will be there
um and I might be able to get away myself it's it's uh it's not too far
away from us excellent it's being held in Jenks Oklahoma which is a suburb of Tulsa and they have a world-class
planetarium there which would be really interesting to see so feel free to come here I'd love to have you I would like
to add my congratulations to you Carol for this wonderful overview of the Linda
Hall Library the first time I was there was in two was when I was doing research
for my uh doctoral thesis and I went there to do some find out
some things about Shakespeare I had gone to two libraries one was the Folger
in Washington and the other one was Linda Hall and while I was there
uh one of the Librarians brought out to me a copy of
um an original observing log
done by one of the most famous one of the herschel's an English to genres
original logic and I was just relishing that oh yeah and it was at that moment
that I talked with them about donating my Observer logs to them and that turned out for my next visit
the one after that I donated my personal journals to them and then finally came
the uh telescope itself at the end uh some people have been asking about
the um telescopes that I've used to discover most of my comments with
that is being donated to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada so that
they can put it to better use than I can at the moment I have
I have Eureka which is an explore scientific 12-inch which I'm now using
for my comment search it's a little easier to move around and a little easier to use but Carol
excellent wonderful presentation thank you and I'll put the real thing out someplace on the internet so everybody
can see it sorry for the mess up yeah okay well thanks very much guys
um next up is going to be we're going to go down to Argentina to uh to Maxi
filari's and uh Maxie thanks for coming on to Global star party tonight
um it has uh it's always a pleasure to see the beautiful images that you make
I that is if your internet doesn't freeze maybe he's just holding really still
what do you think uh
I don't know I when I started the GSP I didn't have any problems right
uh hello you're okay now okay so it's a small bandwidth we can tell but okay we
can but yes I I do not I don't know why my connection goes pretty rough but well I
hope you you see me good I hear me good yeah we do now yes yeah we think it was
just a jealous Astro photographers pulled a plug on you somewhere that's right yeah maybe they say oh man then
they put it back yeah the evil eye oh well
so well thank you for reminding me tonight I'm glad to be here like every
Tuesday night with you guys uh what I'm going to show you is what I'll be doing
this last last Sunday we now you know we have a full moon
practically but and for now that's not a
problem to do astrophotography you know you can do of course take pictures of the Moon and then you can try another
object even if you have filters or something like that they
you can help you to take more sharpening and details from Deep Sky objects
without that light of the the bright the moon and of course if you are in a
political area of light so
okay do you um I'm going to share my screen
okay do you see it yes okay the the connection gets
established that's coming soon by the way yeah you wake up you will come in a couple
months or next year soon to the center line near you that's right
so get prepared for that Eclipse get prepared so well uh what I'm going to show you
this is a from stellarium software and this is the the day of what I was taking
pictures was last 4th of June at 10 pm from here maybe you can see at
the East is the almost full moon rising up and behind that we have the
the core of the Milky Way but the Moon is is pretty shining and you can't even
see it but behind that you have all these beautiful places to to watch but
anyway uh uh I put my equipment outside of my backyard and I put also I will work it
with the lxt stream filter of 1 inches and 25
uh to take pictures of a place called uh
the liberty statue that's a besides of the Karina nebula and it's a good place
that with this kind of feature grows up the the details and the shapes because
taking single shots is really really difficult even if you have light
pollution and if you have a full moon but first of all I want to show you what
uh what uh what kind of sky that we have here because
for example this is my North you can see Arturo's star and of course
I'm in the southern hemisphere so everything that you know it's upside down like if I watch it yeah and if you
show it from the north so I point this area because I did some
pictures with my cell phone to the scope and a little of the sky so you can see
that's my night that was my night uh and you can see here is arturus and uh here
is from Lions constellation
and of course this is my equipment on a couple of trees this is a banana tree
from of my father and a couple orange lemon
another kind of trees an albums and I
was taking pictures of three 30 seconds with my cell phone and you can see here
how in a couple of 20 minutes A change the position of the of the telescope
but almost was illuminated you can see this here is a shadow of the banana tree
because this is the light that a reflection we have of the Moon
so that's why this is not on the day this was 10 p.m almost 11 p.m so
basically uh it's when I took pictures of 30 seconds with a cell phone uh with
only a tripod put it on leave it to take pictures and I could have this and in this case I
am working with a naq 6 a cwo tt-33
um color camera a and guiding with this
2 290 a.m
cwo camera and of course the the eight inches telescope and this is a like we call it
when you do it yourself or do it yourself
um a hood that I made with a new brand to to protect more the the the comma
corrector because you can see here is a hole that
um holds the the spider of the secondary mirror and nearby there is the edge of
the scope so is
I don't like too much it's a short telescope and they put out too much to
show the the the the the cylinder of the
scope but anyway I did this Shield you can hear me because yeah okay now it
pops up a warning of my in a stability connection
but okay so you can see here the the sky is moving and
oh yeah hello yes no problem no I think I'm
Okay so for example this is a a couple of stars
and I don't know if you can see it it's unfocused this start because I want to
focus to the detail of the scope you know and that's why the the stars are more rounded and with little details but
when you go to a stellarium you can see
the same area with these stars and this l
from here you can have the the L here and this is
the star well so
hello hello ah okay I hear some sounds that you hear me no I
I hear some Santa it makes me think that I'm losing connections so yeah yeah yeah if you do have a low bandwidth but
you're you're uh sharing the screen is perfect and um so it's okay it's okay
okay let's let's continue so well here are here is the my in my polar sold
polar Celestial poll um
changing the Meridian you know let me put it like this
here's the South so basically this health is the second Meridian and I
went to this place you know here's karinaula this is the running a a
running chicken I don't know what it goes like that and beneath of this to enable us we have
this place this is the liberty statue nebula
because uh is it has the shape of a liberty
statue a Uprising his arm and it's like a purple
so I try to do pictures of this place uh with a narrow band
a filter to of color and their result was almost this for
example let me
this is a single shot of three minutes excellent
so you can see it's almost the same field of view that I have here you can
see this red square is the the sensor with my telescope this is simulator
so basically I have this practically this place
you can see here there's a an open cluster little open cluster of course it
doesn't it doesn't need little but anyway I try
to capture this and a you know but
um in fighting with light pollution because this place is on the south of my
city and to the South I have the core of the city so the the light is pretty
shiny and of course the LED lights is really tough but anyway with this a
filter in three minutes you can see it protects a lot of that light and also
I had the full moon so it's really really good filter
and also I love the stars is they are pretty much rounded
you know for example this one this is I think the collimation was good finally
okay it looks like we're Frozen up here a little bit let's see if Maxie can recover
the great smile though it is nice part of the sky
I think maybe I may have lost him may have lost him
and we did we did so anyways uh Maxi may
come back on with us later and get a little bit better connection here um we are
um uh about ready anyways to take our first a break not our first break but
our only break uh for a global star party and um I have been uh
playing some of these uh uh wonderful programs that were put together by NASA
and uh they are symphonic interpretations of uh of the
visualizations that niasa has done and so I'm gonna play this one for you I
think you're really gonna love this um this all has to do with the moon so
here we go foreign
hey Scott before you play that yes uh if I'm gonna have to be departing at this
point but if you can send me last week's um Global star party I'd like that I
will do that okay thanks thanks David here next week okay
here we go are you dreaming Farewell My friend David
[Music]
[Music]
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
[Music]
[Music]
foreign [Music]
foreign
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
[Music]
thank you [Music]
[Music]
[Music] thank you
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
thank you
thank you
[Music]
thank you [Music]
thank you foreign [Music]
thank you [Music]
thank you [Music]
thank you
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
thank you
[Music]
[Music]
thank you uh that was incredible
um we are back uh and Maxie was able to regain his connection so he's just got a
few minutes left before we go to Connell Richards uh Maxie do you want to you want to try to finish up here
yes I will try okay my YouTube first get crushed but I think I have reset it so
okay uh let me share my screen again foreign
yes great so we were on fixing sites so
this is the the stack of the liberty statue in nebula
here and in the right and you know I uh
only did a one process of this place but anyway without that process it's it's really
amazing place to to capture you know but then I continuing I
background extraction so gets more a flat of the
of the of the the background and
and then when I process this image it changed a lot of the of that
I get this you know this is like I said this is my first um
a process of this amazing place and
you know I really love the different shapes and colors of this place you know
this like it's like a tree and and here is changing the color and
the shapes and the lights and this a long bear of a tapestry of uh Dusty
nebula against that uh that really electric looking uh you know branches
coming off in the center there it's really cool let me get some a little more but of
course if I get submit he will be distortionated but anyway I also love the stars that I get uh
they are pretty much a circularly and the spikes too and I I
didn't have well look at this amazing place to this
dust that gets with the lights with those stars and this
I I'm really happy to capture this one because I wanted a long time ago
and when I do without the filter it's only
a little shade of this and of course the more lighting places but that's all
and so well I think this is a all for tonight uh I'm
sorry for the the issues that I get but you know it could happen it happens of
course so yeah well thank you Scott for making the effort and uh thanks for
sharing your great work with us and um next time okay you'll see you next time
bye-bye take care all right okay and so what we're going to do now is uh we're
going to transition over to um uh to Connell Richards connell's been
on global Star Party several times and it's always a pleasure to have him on he always gives a great presentation full
of information about not only the experience that uh that he has and
shares with uh normally with a group of people around him but also his great
astrophotography Connell I'm going to turn it over to you man all right thank you very much for the
introduction Scott um I should mention those images earlier Max you were beautiful but you can
really see the Statue of Liberty kind of coming out uh and that video we looked at during the break of that Symphony
over uh those images of the moon was really a great transition to what I'm talking about today uh which are some of
what I call off the beaten path lunar targets uh these are craters and mountains and rails and things like that
on the moon that I've come across lately and they're objects that are I guess features that we don't really see
brought up in a lot of the lunar books and uh you know astrophotography a lot
but their things I think are certainly worth looking at some things uh that have an interesting story to tell but
before I go into that I have some images to share that I took today through all of this Wildfire smoke
I'll share my screen here let me know if you can see the PowerPoint okay yes
okay um playing around with all the zoom
handlebars right here okay there you go all right so on the cover
slide here um I have sketches of two craters along with an image I took of Copernicus
um Scott over on the left is uh I think it's a yeah a southern polar crater very
far down a little bit like clavius in appearance um but you're kind of looking at it Edge
on which is really cool and then there's Messier on the right which is one of the features I'll be talking about today but
like I said first comes this wild fire photography these images this one right
here was taken at 505 local time when the sun was 36 degrees high in the sky
there's no filter here that's pretty much what it looked like to the naked eye there is the disc of the sun barely
coming through um the sun in this instance was even dimmer than uh some stages of lunar
eclipses that I've seen that's kind of what it reminded me of uh because the whole Horizon is kind of dark
um kind of like a solar eclipse and so much of the sun is is blocked out here
in fact you could just look at it straight you know without any filtration uh and it was it was pretty dim
uh here we see a little bit more of it coming out and these are the raw images I grabbed earlier
um and then after this I zoomed in and I tried to take an image through some binoculars though it was you know a
really odd way of doing things I was getting these slightly clearer patches of the smoke uh but it was pretty thick
and pretty pretty wide uh over the state um I should reference here that I'm
living in northeastern Pennsylvania that's where I took these images from and this smoke is coming down from
Quebec and it's coating New York New Jersey Pennsylvania and I think quite a
bit farther down the East Coast as well but in this image here you can just barely see one of the larger sunspots on
the sun right now there's one there there's one a little farther up here no specs on the lens and I do have a little
bit of a cleaner image later that I took about two hours after that here's one of the sun setting I think
it's about 10 degrees high at this point and I got it nicely set between the two pine trees there I was going out and
looking around trying to see if I could get one more good shot for tonight's talk and there it was
um I zoom in a little bit here and you can see that Sunspot again that big one there uh and such a deep red color uh
almost kind of an orange it was really another worldly thing to see and with how the forecasts are looking uh it
looks like um things will be even smokier uh tomorrow unfortunately for us because as
soon as you walk out the door you can actually smell it it's like you're standing next to a campfire it's very
thick right here but we're also expecting some thunderstorms and rain in the near future so hopefully that can clean up
the the lower atmosphere a little bit and quite literally give me some breathing room uh but on to tonight's uh main feature
for the talk which is these off the beaten path lunar features we start off with Messier crater which we saw in the
title slide here and on the right I have an image that I took of the Moon you'll see this on all of the forthcoming
slides um it's right about the full phase and I have a red box there to indicate roughly
where this is on the left here I have another picture this is taken from a smartphone app called Moon globe and it
adapts images from the lunar reconnaissance Orbiter kind of overlays them on the moon and then puts these
features on top of it you can get labels there and that's a much closer look at kind of what we're looking at and then I
also have some information in the upper left and that comes from a book called The Moon Mars and Venus by the famed
lunar cartographer Antonin rookel I believe is how you pronounce his name but he has the famous uh atlas of the
Moon uh that that quite a few people are a fan of and right here next to me I
have the smaller kind of lighter version that talks about the moon and Venus as
well or the Mars and Venus as well it has some maps in there a very good book I do recommend it
but back to Messier crater it's quite a small one about 10 kilometers in diameter it's way over kind of towards
this Eastern limb of the Moon uh just south of the Sea of Tranquility and you see it has this double impact here so it
looks like a rock was kind of skipped on a lake there's the main impact here you see Messier with the actual label on it
and then just to the left of that you see a secondary impact so maybe a piece shattered off
um maybe the impact's split in two and was kind of traveling together maybe it skipped off just like a rock on a pond
but we kind of can tell that these are related because if you look to the left of this you can see these Rays here
there's there's a big one to the north big one to the South and they're just shooting straight off several times the
diameter of the crater so it looks like this impacted at a really shallow angle and just kind of skipped off the moon
right there it's a really beautiful crater to see you can get of course more detail on the craters if you look at
them when the Terminator is around that location but if you wait until a little bit later like a first quarter or a full
phase you can see those Rays really illuminated and it really gives the crater a lot of Dimension it's
definitely something I recommend checking out and this Creator like all the other features I'll be talking about
tonight are within the range of small and medium-sized telescopes it's always nice to have some things for everybody
to observe I come next to Bessel Ray here and in
the image to the left or this picture here we have Bessel crater right in the middle and you can kind of see the ray stretching this way it runs north to
south you can see it quite clearly in the larger image and my interest in this Ray was kind of
provoked by a sky and Telescope article uh some years ago I don't remember the exact issue but essentially the story
behind this Ray is that if you look at maps of the Moon you try to trace this back it doesn't really seem to come from
a notable crater it's named bezel because it runs right through this vessel crater right here but this crater
doesn't really seem to have a lot of rays around it like you know Copernicus or Tycho down here would and this is
such a huge Ray there's some speculation that it might have gone all the way from Tycho down in the southern hemisphere of
the Moon and kind of splashed up uh right into the sea of Serenity uh there's speculation that the crater that
might have made this Ray has now been covered up by past lunar geologic processes but its origin has never been
quite pinpointed and as I think um the clip we watched earlier with the
symphony kind of showed though not in words the Moon is a very mysterious place and it's hard not to feel that
when looking at it there's a great sense of mystery and Beauty when observing the moon and you can get a part of that yourself even if you're observing with
binoculars uh with how bright and long this feature is it's about 600 kilometers long and of course well worth
a stop on your quest of lunar targets third we come to Montes Rook which is
way over on the limb of the moon right here where that red box is and the picture I have on the left shows
kind of what it looks like at an angle but I was doing some sketching of this uh in fact this whole talk was inspired
by an astronomical League observing program called the lunar 2 program they have a lunar program where you kind of
look at the C's and some of the major craters but this lunar 2 program goes into a little bit more detail and it
directs you to observe some slightly more challenging objects on the moon and over the course of of uh observing in
that I found some of these odd targets and that's kind of why I thought I'd share them here but Monte's Rook the
reason I bring this one up is if you look at it just at the right time when the vibration is very favorable you're
looking at the mountain range Edge on and it borders Mari Oriental it's kind of a curved mountain range like
montezura up here uh but of course we're looking straight at the side of it and you can see
there's Peaks here there's valleys here and there's one point where you look at at the mountain range and there's this
very distinct V shape so you're kind of looking Edge on at these Cliffs and like a lot of these other targets I
bring up tonight it brings the moon a lot of Dimension and a lot of life and like I mentioned earlier the vibration
can be just favorable to see that but it can bring us it you know a little bit toward us and a little bit away from us
as the Moon is kind of rocking back and forth in its gravitational title lock with the Earth
and it brings our solar system quite a lot of uh Dimension it shows us how Dynamic the universe we live in is it's
always nice to be reminded of that in the targets that we choose to observe
fourth I come to montswigens which I think should be a stop on every lunar observers list uh if you're trying to
cross off the the biggest and the tallest and the best this is the tallest mountain on the moon it's about 15 000
feet tall or 5400 meters it's located right in the appenite range right here
and you can kind of see it this is around a first quarter phase uh where this simulated image comes up
uh you can see the angle right there right where the Y and Huygens is uh it
casts quite a shadow if you look at it at the right time and it's similar in height to probably our highest Alps or
maybe the extreme end of the Rocky Mountains if you want to get some perspective here on Earth but it goes
straight down as we can see you can find it with this ghost crater outline looks like there was a crater there in very
ancient times on the moon it's been filled in by magma but you just see the rim of it right around here and it kind
of you can't help having some curiosity of what it would be like to stand down
here on this plane and look at that mountain and kind of wonder what a tall mountain on the Moon looks like
especially because it's curb so much more sharply it's a smaller object than the Earth it really brings some more mystery and
Beauty to the moon like I mentioned earlier finally tonight we come to Rhema Hadley
and the reason I save this for last is I believe it's one of the best it reminds me quite a lot of what a scene on Earth
might look like so the Rima on the moon these are reals these are cracks and Ravines that have formed in the magma
through through various methods and you can see it snaking through the mountains right here now if you were to extend
this simulated image on the bottom left kind of right down here if you kept going down uh down into the left is
where you would run into montoygen so this is in the same mountain range just a little bit farther north if you were
to slide up that curve but we see some mountains here uh kind of to the Northeast side and then the southwest
side we also see some other mountains the main part of the apennine range Rima Hadley runs straight through it you can
kind of see it snaking through there's mountains there you can see Apollo 15 landed there so I'm sure there's some
great pictures that those astronauts got and it almost looks like this reel here is sourced up in these mountains much
like we have ponds at very high altitudes and they start to form rivers and they have tributaries and they snake
down through mountain valleys and it almost looks like a flood plain down there and obviously the moon doesn't
have the great flowing water rivers that we have on Earth and and some of the forested mountains but we can look at
the Moon there and see just a little bit of the Earth in that and I think that's a really beautiful connection uh to have
the two celestial bodies and perhaps maybe you're even observing from a mountain valley or a Mountaintop much
like the one we're looking at here but from very different geologic circumstances
again these mountains are quite High it features the appenite range does mons
Huygens which is the tallest and then we also have mons Hadley which is quite tall as well the Apollo 15 astronauts
returning some great images of that and we have this approximately 80 kilometer long rail snaking through there so next
time you get out and uh maybe you're bummed out that the Moon is kind of brightening up your your deep Sky plans
I still recommend getting out your telescope and taking a look at the Moon because as much as we enjoy these great
features like Copernicus and some of the the larger mountain ranges and the and the bigger and brighter craters it's
nice to take a second look at the Moon and really take in all of the finer details so I encourage you to get out
and do that thank you very much for having me tonight I very much enjoy having you on Connell
um you know I think that when you observe the moon and really study it in
the way that you have you really uh you develop an even deeper bond with the
moon you know and it makes you think of all the uh uh the aspects that the moon
uh and and the Earth um you know the dynamic that we have with the tides and and uh you know thank
goodness we have a moon such as we have so that's great what is your favorite part
in terms of a feature or some aspect of them yeah um I think I might have to point to
montoygens uh one of the objects I talked about tonight because I remember learning about that very on in my
observing career and thinking about mountains that I had seen on Earth and that was kind of the starting point for
uh developing a deeper connection with the moon and with the cosmos I've been doing a lot of deep Sky observing lately
but like you say it's really nice to go back to the moon sometimes kind of go back to basics to where you started in
astronomy right so montoygens was one of the the biggest and best features that I was first able to find and that's one of
the reasons I included it tonight I'd like to have I'd like to see many other people have that same experience with that mountain
excellent well thank you very much and uh um and we will uh we'll see hopefully
next time so uh our next Global Star Party uh let's see we have a looks like we
have a little bit of a change in our schedule here um uh so I am going to switch over to
um Adrian Bradley Adrian are you uh yeah I can I plan to sort of wing it yeah um
it's time because there's a couple things coming up you've got an annular eclipse and I think Scott you are
going to be uh hosting an event that's right and uh we're we're
gonna have our first uh uh Eclipse Expedition type of uh start party
stargaze it'll be in Hill Country of uh Texas and um it'll be in the same spot
actually you would go and set up in the exact same spot uh and come back
just six months later and witness the total eclipse from the same area for us is the same area yeah the eclipses Star
Party um and so yeah you can you can find more about that if you just go to explore
scientific.com forward slash eclipse and uh and learn how to take part in that so
yeah so that was one of the places that I considered going to
um I'm publicly sharing I sent you an email about a friend of mine one of the many
uh folks that's uh giving out presentations about where to see the
eclipse that would be one really good place to go
um I'm gonna share screen because I'm also going to talk about planning and
preparing for your night photography shot which I think is also a good
um I think is also a good thing to discuss as well so
so a couple of things here here does the information you were talking
about Scott and here is here is the gear to invest in
now would be a great time because uh these variable large aperture solar
filters these glasses these glasses are going to go fast when it becomes
time for the uh the actual solar eclipse whether people
go to totality or annularity or if they just stay home and
watch the partial eclipse unfold which a lot of people did last time we had total
solar eclipse a couple people from my job came down or went down
to where it was when it crossed over here uh Kentucky Tennessee which I'm looking here we go
it crossed down here which if you notice it's a little bit further north but then
again it came as you call it came this way and down
um and so we will not have another total solar eclipse in North America for 21
years um I'll send you I've sent you an email about a presenter that uh would be able
to would love to come on global star party and do a presentation on the eclipse we can you know we'll be able to
discuss it but um one of the other places and I don't know
if this map's clickable um if I don't right down in here I guess
near Austin is where you're gonna have the uh Star Party because that's where the crossroads is
but if you stay north Point Pele National Park if you can get
into Canada this juts out into Lake Erie and that's on the center line too or in
at least within the swath of the uh Center Line so so if your travel plans
include having at least a passport card for Canada
um that would be an option if you're staying North and I'm planning right now to figure out
I've actually discussed um with the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada
that um this place which is getting becoming a dark sky preserve so you'll
see some photos from there not long from now
um that will um that will be photos that I'm going to
take ahead of time you know once the sky is clear from this National Park in
Canada if I can get out there and then assess just how beautiful the place is
it looks like it's a very beautiful place so um
so other thing I'm gonna do I'm gonna move this and look for Brian Odom is that how you
pronounce his name uh Brian yeah Odom Odom okay yeah yeah
so it'd be good to have it on perfect so here's another
um who will drop down sometimes I do photography for events and
after that I decided to take a simple iPhone and go to State Park during the
daytime now if you notice these pictures were looking at the
pennebok river it's a place that I've imaged before I'll see if I can
um slide in a couple pictures that I've taken
from there in the past and compare what I'm what I'm showing here is
sometimes preparation is the uh
is the absolute key to making sure that a photo that you would like to take of
the night sky that you're able to actually pull it off and in order to do
that [Music] um and I'm looking to see if I can find
those images so this was 2022 I need 2023.
um let's go
May April March let's see if this
so March of 2023 because I've been to this Lighthouse a
lot this was a planned shot over the lighthouse uh funny story I went back to
the lighthouse recently and before taking photos I uh cringed in horror as
I realized I didn't have a card for my camera so I was not able to take follow-up pictures so make sure you have
all of your gear with you and make a checklist or you might
not like the results yeah because uh you will be stuck
and you will have nothing but an iPhone to
um this is Albert sleeper um one of the things that you look at is
this is Southwest so anything that's in the night sky when
it gets to that point in the southwest six months from now the sky looks completely different but it'll be the
same angle the water will look completely different because this won't be this is Frozen in time here it'll be
full flowing water so I'd be standing in some waves at this point if I take the
shot but it gives me an idea to say okay if I want to catch the setting cygnus region
I can do that from this part of the Metro Park I can come in during the day
and I'll continue to look um I can come in during the day and take pictures that I think will make great
pictures at night like along the beach here this is the opposite of photos that I've taken
um from here in the past and here is in fact
is one of those photos that I've taken so where I'm taking these pictures
I found a way across the pinabog river this was in the winter and that's the cygnus region
I found my way across and now the um I'm standing on the SandBar over
here and I'm looking down the river the
um center of the uh the center of the Galaxy Rises up some of those images that I showed
earlier the galactic center Rising that happens over the pinebaug river and
whether it's happening here or if it's rolling over here because the sky Will Roll to where it
stands up and it and what what it's a what it amounts
to is it takes a lot of planning to make sure that you have
the type of shot you want so if you want this part of the Galaxy
over here you have to make sure that you're standing at the angle in which you can
see it and if you get it wrong then you just have to adjust your shot
accordingly so these are different ideas maybe a panorama would work as the night as the
sky is rising this is a closer look
and then this is out the dark sky preserve this is out where
the um let's see Saginaw Bay meets Lake Huron
and that's facing north so for observing it's a really great place
but you have to carry your observing equipment all the way out there which is not as much fun
and there were a couple of other ideas that I had
these two in particular I thought might make an interesting uh
location but then you have to go through some Woods in order to see it and once again
trying to picture using the compass trying to picture what a site might look
like if it's at night and it's full of stars so if you imagine
the part of the Milky Way cutting through there at some sort of angle
um these are the steps that you take in order to plan
um in order to plan for future shots so when the sky is
not so great or there's smoke in the sky or it's you have a full moon at night
um with conal uh showing us you know his uh
Sun yeah yeah Colonel showing pictures because you
know we see that uh Robert's here the Moon is a wonderful object and in fact I
think I have a couple because after yeah before
before I did the presentation um
you know I took pictures you take pictures during the day in order to get great pictures at night
and that picture I just showed you would be an example of that that was
these are all the pictures at night and so here you have you have this picture
and then there's a close-up and there's the Milky Way going over so
when you you take one picture and it gives you an idea now there's clouds here but you
never give up you say okay that would be a great picture I'm facing you know a
certain I'm facing a certain direction and then even when you take pictures
you take pictures before and I'm looking for
this one let's see these in particular so this is a picture I've taken it's
been a couple of years and
so then you take a slightly different angle and it changes not only if there are
changes being made to the area there are changes being made in your
process um it also there's so much drama in that
image yeah and it also compared to the original
image foreign
a certain style of editing for that one this image which the Light Keeper
the style of editing here made it so that everything was a lot clearer the Light Keeper one of the light keepers of
the um Lighthouse loved it and before we could hang it in the gift shop he just
bought it and it's at home with all of his other images so I thought that to be
a uh you know I thought that to be an honor and I'm a member of the society that
takes care of this Lighthouse so that gives me a little more you know unfettered access to the skies around
here but during the there's a lot of camping that goes on so my idea is to make it a dark sky preserve did not
you know aren't going to go so well and here's the same so we saw
we saw this shot you know we continue to work on
you know different angles and different processing techniques that's how we
grow and we change our style we figure out what worked well this was a
reprocess of this image so over here the colors
there's more saturation this red light does really cast its light on the grass
like that but what I did is I said I want to make it a little more natural looking so I
came back and the Aurora is still visible the lighthouse is more of a natural color the grass is more of a
natural color this is more along the lines of how it
looks you know natural color of everything the sky still has a little bit of an
orangish tint but that from the fainer parts of the Aurora that's up here
so while waiting on the weather to break you um you go back and you reprocess this is
what I was hoping to get this was taken a couple years ago but
when I didn't have my card with me all I could do was just visualize the shot
that I wanted and you know realizing well I wasn't going to get it this time but maybe there
would be a next time and as for those shots along
the dark sky Park and real quick and I'll turn it back
over because I've got some of those um
here we are back in the thumb Upper Peninsula and then
I had taken some daytime shots of that same area
got a sunset and then the Dark Sky Lodge and Tavern that's nearby
and at night so if you remember or recall the um
the image I had looking down this River well this was an image taken further to
the north where the river starts where it comes in from Saginaw Bay so now the
plan is to take this shot from over here so now we have more of
the river we have more of the foliage and we can see what position the galactic center is in it's standing
straight up and down and it's getting ready to tip so so each image shows you what a next
image would look like um this is part of the experimentation of doing your night photography
of where you want to go to do more night shots
um planning planning is essential if you're going to
take good shots or at least take shots that um shots that you can be proud of or that
can lead to even more you know even more shots um you wanna you wanna make sure
Milky Way is going to be in position you use things like spot WX or astrospheric
for cloud forecasts astronomy forecast the weather might say it's clear but it
could be clear and Smoky or it could be high clouds in the area so all of those
affect the type of shot you'll get and um and there's nothing wrong with shooting
through smoke or shooting through um slight cloud cover because of the you
might get something interesting and unique that you wouldn't get otherwise if the sky was just clear
so um so if that's got that'll be my presentation we'll see what happens
if you didn't learn anything else there's two things try trying to try and try again with
images try different angles and do what you have to to see the eclipse and if you're looking for a
place to go down to uh that's right we've got a spot for you that's right got a spot for you
so and the the chances of clouds down there are far less than the chances of
clouds and up here to the north in the Ohio area so true but you can never plan
exactly plan for what the weather's going to be like for an eclipse absolutely there is something called
fractional Cloud patterns and it's averaged over 20 I think like 20 years
or something yes and that's that's the data that we used
uh to determine where we were going to be um but uh but uh you know eclipses do
weird things the the you know you get this thousand mile an hour moving Shadow
that's cooling uh you know leaving a trail of cool air behind it and um so
it's uh it can do some really bizarre stuff so yes
anyhow absolutely so thank you so much no problem all right okay so our next
speaker is uh uh young Navin uh sentel Kumar and Gavin and his father uh as I
mentioned earlier uh met me at the Northeast astronomy Forum but now in uh
are you uh ready to uh make your presentation
yeah I'm good to go so hopefully I'm gonna share my screen
sorry about that I'm having a bit of technical difficulties it has been an evening of technical
difficulty yeah I guess it's an amazing my screen shared okay but I've got
multiple screens to work with so maybe it helps but hopefully Navy
because yeah we we've had screens not share uh all night
I don't know what's happening you know so yeah yeah all in uh you've
done this enough times you know that man my dad's coming just okay
yeah that's those these are the technical difficulties we have when we uh we present online we everything's
working and all of a sudden it doesn't and then it doesn't work yeah it doesn't work
um yeah I screen share by picking a uh I
pick a screen to put all of my content on so that seems to work but uh
there we go they got it going yeah all right
is she my screen I didn't do presentation mode yes we do yep
all right I'm just gonna zip up here
I'm just in a presentation all right here we are here we go so my talk is
going to be today about supermassive black holes um
and let's get into it so firstly we need to introduce
ourselves to what is a supermassive black hole basically a supermassive black hole or
for sure it's known as an smbh or sometimes even svh is basically the largest type of black
hole with its mass being in on the order of hundreds of thousands maybe even
Millions to billions of times more than the mass of the sun which is pretty impressive
observational evidence suggests that almost every single large galaxy has a black hole in the middle
actually it's a super massive black hole two Supermassive Black Ops have been
directly imaged by The Event Horizon telescope so one of them is right here it's Messier 87 which many of you are
familiar with or the astrophotographers and in our own Milky Way galaxy we also
have a smbh which is pretty impressive um
and then now we need let's get into how they work really which is the
description supermassive black holes they're basically defined as black holes with a mass above a hundred thousand
you want to go a little bit more mathematical in scientific notation it's 10 to the fifth power
and this we're going to call M for short because we can't just say Mass
so some of them have a massive over several
billion in many supermassive black holes have physical properties that clearly
distinguish them from the lower class ifications lower Mass classifications
which is basically smaller like black holes which are like the normal size levels
so first thing is that the tidal forces in the vicinity of the Event Horizon are
basically significantly weaker or supermassive black holes so for example
the title force on a body at the black holes Event Horizon is inversely proportional to the square of
the black holes Mass basically a person at the Event Horizon of 10 million m
black hole experience is about the same tidal force between their head and feet as a person on the surface of the Earth
so it's nothing different it's like if you have the same title force on Earth it's like the same in a
supermassive black hole so it doesn't really make it much more different now let's get into some history
so the first thing that happened was who who taught who um figured out super
master black holes was beginning with the investigation by Martin Schmidt
of the radio Source 3C 273 1963 and if you this is Martin Schmidt by the
way here um initially he thought this was going to be a star but then the Spectrum
proved to be puzzling it was determined to be hydrogen emission lines that had been redshifted
indicating the object that was moving away from the Earth so now hablo's lie had shown that the
object was located several billion light years away and thus must be emitting the energy
equivalent to of hundreds of galaxies so super uh massive smbhs they can have
made a lot of energy because they have a lot going inside of them which we'll get to in a bit to actually see what's going
inside of them um and now we're going to talk about how they form
the origin of supermassive black holes remains in active field of research many astrophysicists agree that black holes
can grow by accretion of matter and merging by with other black holes
there are many hypotheses for the formation mechanisms and initial masses
of the progenitors or seeds of the supermassive black holes
for example many distant and early supermassive black holes such as qso Jake
313 1806 in ulas j1342 plus 0928 are hard to
explain because they're made so soon after the big bang basically this is how they combine
um they firstly this is the diagram that that's going to describe everything so firstly this this over here is the extra
Galactic jet and then right here this disc over here which is Orange it's called the
increasing disk and then inside the accretion disk is the black hole and then this is the
magnetic field lines and then both of them combined through the magnetic field lines energy and then
the extra Galactic jet which caused them to make you combine and that makes that's why all these supermassive black
holes have a lot more energy and that and one of them and they're
super interesting to actually find out now they also
can cause active have a lot of activity and Galactic radiation a lot of gravitation from supermassive
black holes in the center of many galaxies is thought to be to start to power active subjects such
as this the safer galaxies and quasars and the relationship between the mass of
the central black hole and the host Galaxy depends upon the galaxy type an empirical correlation between the
size of supermassive black holes and the Stellar velocity dispersion of a Galaxy world is called the M Sigma radiation
so over here basically in the image you could actually see the radiation that's going out from the gal like the middle
of the black hole because that's where they actually that's what causes all this energy it
needs to somehow get out so it ends up radiating most of the energy
as it goes now we we need to prove ourselves with
some evidence so one of the some of the best evidence for the presence of black holes is
basically provided by the Doppler effect which it's it's pretty familiar
whereby light from nearby orbiting matter is redshifted when receding and
blue shifted when advancing for matter very close to a black hole in
the orbital speed must be comparable to the speed of light so basically receding matter will appear
very faint compared with the dancing matter which means AT Systems would
intrinsically symmetry discs and Rings will acquire highly asymmetric visual
appearance so over here this image shows the Doppler effect in action right now
so the on the left side you can see it's the moving Observer on the right side it's the moving source
NWC the key the green over here and the left is the real position and over here
in the right it's the apparent position and the arrow indicates the direction of the light bulbs
a over here shows the light post going basically on this direction
which is the blue and this technically advancing
and then over here the light pulse is going the same direction and it's going in a circular motion over
here as you see because that's where the circles therefore and then for B over here
basically the light source is pointing directly upwards and these going this
way and it's not really in the circular motion
um B over here um shows in circular motion and it's
showing that this goes up but it doesn't really have a circular
motion over here for the energy um conclusion
astronomers and scientists are still trying to find more information about these supermassive black holes
but for now this is all we know about smbh black holes thank you that's all
thank you Natalie what do you find I mean what
and no pun intended what Drew you to uh give a presentation about black holes is
it like is it one of your favorite types of objects to talk about does it uh kind
of stretch your mind to think about uh how a black hole Works what what is it did you find so intriguing
something that I find super intriguing is actually how much energy they have inside of them because
one of the black holes they caused an eruption I forgot which one exactly it
was but it was an smbh that caused one of the most energetic
um star explosion um star explosions and um
about a long time and that released the most energy now since the big bang and
that was recently when 2020 when scientists found out so they're one of the most interesting
things about these is they're the amount of energy they have in their Mass yeah oh yeah they're very strange aren't they
you know when I was uh when I was uh your age I mean the idea of black holes
was still uh very much just um I mean there were people that were fairly
confirmed you know that these things must exist but there was a lot of us that still had the idea that well maybe
this is just um you know
still just kind of not fantasy but uh stuff you know that that is so far out
there that you know we can't understand it and we um and maybe doesn't exist at all so
that was uh that was kind of the uh you know the feeling about it I think
amongst the general public and then finally seeing an image of a black hole uh was really really
amazing and I think that that you know I I'm I feel lucky to be alive to see
stuff like that you know so um it's something that you'll always have as you go forward I can hardly
imagine uh you know your your own experiences when you turn 60 and 70 years old and
what you'll you'll have experienced in astronomy so keep up the good work Natalie you're
doing a great job thank you thanks for having me on the show again okay thank you okay uh up next is
um uh Robert Reeves uh Robert has uh
um been involved in amateur astronomy for a long time he has written books on astrophotography
um he is a uh you know an organizer of
the Texas Star Party um but uh his latest passion maybe for not
just latest but I think he's been interested in the moon for uh uh quite a
long time he's one of the most expert people I know about the moon and it's always fascinating to hear his
presentations so I'm gonna let you take it away thanks okay can you hear me okay
yep good well that part's working uh of course the uh next thing up is uh the uh
weekly um exercise where we see Robert
embarrassing himself by not being able to share his screen
glitches in in presentations and stuff but it's okay well we'll we'll muddle
our way through uh yeah of course you know I've called the um uh title of my
presentation Postcards From the moon so I inspired myself and I have actually
made real postcards oh well there you go from the Moon
that people can can mail so uh just a little fun thing I've been
tinkering with I didn't want to order those Robert uh well I haven't gotten that far yet uh
eventually I'll um when I get caught up with a million other things I'm doing I'll uh I'll post
it on Facebook on my regular Facebook page hey you know if you want these things you know drop me a personal message I'll send you a package so uh uh
just one of the many things that I'm overwhelming myself with nowadays
but uh as you said the moon has been my passion since I cannot remember when
um to date my lunar activity I would I was observing the moon before we knew
what the Far Side of the Moon look like before uh 1959 when the first first moon
probe Russian Moon probe photograph the back side of the moon and gave us a clue that the back side of the moon was not
at all like the front side but let's do the screen share and see if I can make
this work are you saying my title Slide the postcard Perfect Look at that and
just for funds it does not Advance oh
oh here we go again folks me back out of this somehow how do I get
out of here come on nothing is working now yeah yeah yeah yeah
why me okay hit Escape
there it goes okay let's try this again we're still seeing your postcards from
the Moon title slide okay did it Advance through the next one
no it did not did not you can unshare
back and share again and then find that find that dialog box
you know you can see the different dialog boxes you can share if you have a lot of stuff up it can get confusing so
you want to just have um the presentation part of it let's see
what you got here okay now I see thumbnails thumbnails okay not not what I am seeing
go back yeah just go back again um I'm back to my basic
my title bringing up the title again and trying to advance
I can see it advancing on mine is it advancing online no no
I'd share again okay yeah you're just I think you're just
choosing the wrong dialog box okay go back to share screen
well there's each time I do it there's one more of these uh
um title screens showing up in addition to my uh my uh thumbnails that I pick from uh
share oh maybe I'm not licking share
okay we're back to the thumbnails thumbnails yes
this is going to be the death of me
you are scaring you share uh
I think the uh the silliness of this may encourage me to stop trying to do this
because there's something clearly different something is not right with my
own computer it doesn't work like other people's do
and uh when I try to bring make things happen it does not happen like it is
well that's not even there okay
what what what do I need to do here this year
is okay what are you seeing now the thumbnails
up share go back to my ugly face again
and uh bring up screen share one more time before I just pull the plug on this
and say something is not happening right I'm not sure which one do you have other
uh windows open that are instances of you bringing uh things up full stream
um like if you do you know alt Tab and kind of go through
and see what's open on your PC
just just the thumbnail screen okay
and now I've lost the zoom oh I am about to give up on this
this is defeating me
you know what Scott I may not be smart enough to do this I may be able to
navigate to the Moon and back but uh if you would like if you would
like you could email your shots to me I'll throw them into a PowerPoint and I could Advance through them for you we
may have to do that next week okay okay um I I am clueless why I cannot properly
Zoom I mean every time I try to zoom it's it's it's like pulling hens teeth
so uh I apologize in fact I've lost the zoom screen too I I can't figure out how
to get back to where it's not showing up anywhere
okay let me uh let me kill this oh there it is okay
uh okay I'm going to minimize that get rid
of this okay now let's go back
hello
okay one last shot all right do you see my uh title title
slide no I just see you okay Scott we're gonna go to plan B
email you the slides ahead of time and I
apologize for making a rock out of this I just this is this is baffling me no
problem so uh already sorry about that Robert thank
you man thank you alrighty bye-bye bye bye
okay um well it's been it's been a night of uh
some technical difficulties but uh uh we will uh we'll uh zoom over down under to
Argentina once again to uh Cesar brolo Cesar how are you man hi it's called how
are you sure it's a pleasure um enjoy and share with you guys this
night thanks for the audience to watch us
um yes it's a pleasure it's a pleasure every every Thursday that where we we
enjoy together with leeches with a lot of information you know it's normal it's part of the
family when I say okay you have pleasure to share the the
well the the PowerPoint yeah you know I will be completely transparent I
remember putting together a whole program for Global Star Party
a live program oh I could not make it work I could not make it work I couldn't
get the broadcasting to work and so I had to cancel the whole thing right in the middle and so anyways totally
understand so yes absolutely absolutely and well
um today tonight um I inside I'm not in the balcony
because we have a rainy night um my idea to share something live is
impossible tonight and uh but talking about
um you know the the idea of tonight about how about how
um us uh we are made of of what what particular materials
um well I have a presentation with the image um that I took of the sky from my
balcony and I can share with the audience
my presentation
well tell me if you are watching the presentation now yes okay yes we are
lucky okay well um a carbon star scene from Southern sky
from a city balcony is my my Jaguar is a balcony I live in apartment and I have
uh the place that from every every night
I that we share with the sky is clear I
share with you with the audience the sky
um tonight I took the idea to to talk about
um the why the why groups that we call it the movie The Ruby to
because is is one of their the red that if they were exists in English
the the most read deeply rare star in the sky and it's a
caravone star um it's very very near
to Beta Cruces the y
d y Cruise it's uh magnitude star of a 0.3 I don't remember
exactly but this over a and is a star that is not easy to to to
uh to see to watch uh to The Naked Eyes
but very impossible maybe in the city you know do you have the the Bride of
beta cruises and when you when you have so near so
Brig star maybe you have a situation for the naked
eye and maybe using a lot of you know you know that it's got that that when
you use a lot of magnification um the things maybe Nikki also maybe
um before after sorry after make this presentation like this the idea to to
talk about this star I figure when the the guys returned to to be
clear and try to see to The Naked Eyes maybe
with the RC of eight images uh and make a better picture of narrow
field um because tonight I'll I'll show you
um why Phil pictures but where you can see perfectly
the the the real carbon stuff well first of all the axis of the idea of uh
tonight it's uh the components and our body and
why we are made of stars and of course that I choose carbon
to preventing to connect to connect this
this star with our
molecules of carbon in our body where we have in a meat uh
um but you know everywhere carbon is a huge part of our composition
and uh well the first thing that I can show you is
um that is you know because I show a lot of time and a picture with idea
that have an idea of my field of view to the South and South West here in
Argentina Argentina in Buenos Aires Buenos Aires at 35
South degrees latitude is similar to to the people of Emmy
foreign for example in USA if you live in
Atlanta Georgia do you have the same the same latitude
it's a place not no so-called not so warm you know as well it's warming in
summer of course uh not so cold in Winter and
um in the southern first we have the Southern Cross
um practically our in over your head near to the semi
well this is my field of view let me know if you can see the stars
because sometimes we uh if um in the first time the image is is empty
of a star you know because the internet transmission but here do you have the Southern Cross
here I see Alpha and beta Centauri or rigel
Kent beta Centauri here maybe maybe you can a
see very finely a Carina nebula in this area here you
have to um open cluster that we call pleasurable
or Southern plus and well this is the first picture that
I put in the presentation is the near Sensation that you have if you
see the stars in a clear night here in my home in Buenos Aires
in my balcony from my balcony from my backyard and here for the first situation do you
have the idea of the sky how many stars maybe you can see let's start that that
this but you can see at Naked Eyes this one this one maybe this this the
Southern Cross and maybe in this area of villa you can see Karina and Bella you
see sometimes in very clear sky in clears night with low humid
in summer maybe you can see the shiny sky well
this here we have a uh in a night where we have more Exposition we have clouds
two I hear I you can see a much better
Southern Cross you can see it
here with more more uh how do you say well it's more easy to to to see
um completing the another stars in Karina and Veda and
clouds that are going from the from the East to the West in
this picture well this is in a clear night where I
put around 100 millimeters uh reflex camera this is the field that you you
can see now where do you have a Southern Cross here
do you have the devil box cluster here do you have the southern player
this and in this maybe let me well in this part maybe here do you have the
beta Carina that is outside the picture but
you can start to see different colors of the Stars
and this is the star that we are going to to watch and conserve more
where is because it's beta Centauri okay well here you can
see around the the the Field view of 30
millimeters with an APS sensor of a reflex camera where do you
have happy image of a Southern Cross
you can see the the carbon sock here
sorry yeah several box uh well we say crocheto
uh Silver Box open cluster and we are
going to change the position of Southern Southern Cross to start to go
to this area here you can see now a better a better difference between the
red stars and the blue ones
and here now is the carbon star
now I am using over over uh um five and it's a field of view of five
millimeters 500 sorry millimeters where you have seven blocks beta
beta cruises and this one maybe you can see the the
red star this star is very interesting because
it's uh if you compare for example uh with another stars
um you know um or to explain to the audience to to
talk about how astronomers um take the measure of colors of star to
make to take a number they use they use a magnitude the same magnitude that you
say for example this star for example I don't remember now but this beta Cruz is maybe six or or less or three or four
completely but the star um you can say about the color taking
two different filters blue but for B minor the large B and the uh
visible B between green and yellow and
the number of for example if you have if if you need to you put the star
um with the UC with the blue filter okay and you take the number of the magnitude
for blue if you if for example if something is real
through the blue filter is transmitting really small number if a
star is a small number not sorry small line but a small line in magnitude is a
bigger number okay it's opposite for the people well okay we are all uh
amateur astronomers or astronomers and but the higher number for for magnitude are
less dry okay and for example when you when you uh have numbers
here they have a table where do you have here is the is the example that I talk
about how they astronomers take the measures of of uh
um of colors to say uh to take a number
of magnitude of dry in this situation where you have a blue filter
minus a visibility green maybe I I did
this 550 nanometers what is where our retina have the best
sensibility to this to this color and they took the magnitude for blue filter
and the magnitude for disabled filter and you have a number where do you have
this class of stars normal Stars blue stars do you have uh normally minus zero
to three zero point three and you can see how a star in the red ones because
because they they the number of the magnitude with the
blue filter decrease a lot but if you compare the typical red stars
like better juice or [Music] um Antares or maybe stars from the chair
well box that you say okay they are red but the number that normally you can you
can confound is 1.40 you know one one point
51.70 but look that uh the
um I here I put but the white Cruise uh Surplus all these a normal red star
don't go beyond one uh one well person but B minus B
uh plus one point uh Point uh five why
the values of this Ruby star is
5.56 is completely outside the box it's very interesting of course it is a
carbon star but it's a huge how do you say the component is so big that that
really is uh uh very very different star
in the sky and well and of course that
all of these I am not astronomer and everywhere for me is about my curiosity
and my my ideas encourage to the people to make this same a search of it for
information something that was great that when I put uh when I start to
search information in about the Y cruises
I can't get nothing from Wikipedia for uh and say well anybody write something
about this and searching I found uh
um uh uh Blogspot of a friend that this is a
great physics and he make an article very very interesting about
the Y cruises uh many many uh amateur
astronomers uh like guzvallan or Martin today we are we was talking
uh before the show about
um about the Y cross cruises the Ruby and this is very interesting because
when you have a star so out of the box
um do you have something very interesting to show to the people to the
kids you know that every every time we are talking about this and
um and things that today are not so how do you say are
not so um common in the sky and it's something
that you can show to the people when you make uh you
know you make uh uh investigation you know a research but a common researching
Wikipedia with your pictures you can take your own pictures of this like I to
take the pictures from from the city with a small telescope or sorry only
reflex camera and do you have the possibility to to learn about something
different and do you have a lot of course that this is my first step to to
start to know about this star um something was that was great talking
about uh started this totally outside the box is about this Sean Herschel
[Music] 15 March 2018 34 come sweep Cape sweep
sorry uh and look if you read the
the how do you say the impression when him
when sorry when John herself discover
this star watching at uh watching that in the in
the dark sky of course at the night at the night I hear this cry
this star as like a red the most rare
uh deepest mineral that he his watch and
disconnection this connection of the intense thing where I say come out this
is different why this is and you can say the most important thing why how and I I
think that for example he described it is like a drop of blue one contrasted
with the witness the whiteness of beta Cruces sorry with
the English because it's ah it's fine it's fine but but if not you can read
it seems like um you know in studying red stars it's almost like someone
that's that a gemologist that's very interested in rubies you know as well
the most deep red you know the most because they are they are jewel-like you
know yes very much like jewels absolutely absolutely and something that
is incredible is uh tonight where we are talking about this and we are talking
about I choose carbon because I I I thought uh
in in the picture that I took of the Bible um I remember that we I made a
presentation uh connected with uh my friend Pedro salisar and we try with different
filters um how you when you took the blue one
practically practically uh disappear the the star
um it's very interesting and have a lot of things to make uh difference uh
experiments and especially people for kids or you know it's very easy very
affordable to to see in the sky it's a star that you here we can see the entire
year and you know it's uh and this is my my presentation for for tonight
um it's about carbon our body we are made of stars and uh if you if if you
like to to learn more uh here I I can take
um I can give you um this or I can I can copy the links
this is the Blogspot of in Spanish he he work uh he made a a
beautiful article and was very very helpful for me
um I'll now I'll send you if you like and you put the the links
by the chat of our Zoom if you if you
agree with Scott why don't you send that over to me and I will yes because yes
I'm not a specialist the idea of this is another said okay you know I talk about carbon Stars no I don't have idea the
idea is that the people make the same take this way or to make astronomy from
his backyard from it the idea is take the the experiment the idea the the film
The the things about starts out of the box difference or how
we can sense this about pictures my idea well
is is how I can see from the city maybe from the darkest Sky who is the the
sensation of this star between a very very near to a big wide star you know
maybe to feel the same than John Herschel yes yes
hi good to see you I was I wanted to say you know it must be hard when you level
your Scopes out in the dark sky site because you're so used to using buildings to eyeball the level you know
yeah I use that sometimes that trick um when I'm you know doing construction I
have to level something and I didn't have a level so I used buildings or telephone poles
in the background because they are Level so yeah it's kind of a cool trick
it's part of our landscape it's part of our our uh you know and it's it's great
and I I encourage a lot of people that
live in big cities to use the telescope and take every day every clear sky when
it's possible Point your telescope enjoy and you know
well John well you make this yes the moon and the sun are always out and uh
when it's cloudy you can get the moon peeking through um sometimes and so I've been doing a
lot of those here where I live it's it's been clouded for but it's very nice very
cool and absolutely uh last Sunday at night
normally we um with friends we read
with bikes in area that is near from here and some areas we have a lake
forest you know about this Palermo yeah it's in the city is it like a central
small Central Park in the city it's a only four blocks from here it's very
nice to to take a right way ride bike sort of ride bike uh and a lesson last
Sunday we found that the the shadow of the Moon
that you you forget in the city this possibility and you know in Parts where
the lights uh the likes was out of service of the of the road and it's
really a safer place of course no problem but uh we we see the shadow Moon
and something that come on when we forget this when we lost this and if and
you are making a small part of astronomy and enjoying this you know well thank
you everyone great to see you ah it's a pleasure thank you so much all
right okay John uh hello everybody
I'm in the Stars I'm out in the Stars tonight that's right let me show you here yeah that's beautiful
yeah I'm getting some blue light I hope that Quasar didn't blow
but maybe Beetlejuice will go and uh we'll be okay
you know it it should be spectacular I didn't realize how close it was
um but it's actually relatively close uh by comparison you know
it's um Alpha Centauri is probably the closest but you know we'll be we should
be all right God willing god well so how's everybody doing tonight everybody's fine we we had uh it
was a night kind of fraught with some technical difficulties but uh we got through it we had some great
presentations of course you know and uh um it's uh
you know I think that uh I think our astronomers uh you know
gave our audience a very wide range of subjects to think about everything from
red stars to you know the dusty hand Galaxy you know
I'd never seen that I've never seen photographs of that thing before so that was a that was beautiful
um you know David Levy's uh beautiful new uh addition to his poem about his
about his wife dedicated to his wife beautiful yep
um you know learning about the Adirondack you know astronomy Retreat and um
you know uh and and Maxi you know punching his way through the the
internet you know as it was kind of giving him fits and starts and he did finally was able to finish uh to show a
beautiful processing job on on nebula that he was working on so
but um our audience that we got a worldwide audience right now and uh
awesome and you got the stage John I'm so happy and thankful for all of you to
watch this with us because every week it gives me the ability to
have to create work for presentation and um you know it's cloudy so we can't
really do any Star parties or public Outreach so this this is actually uh the
the platform for me now I'm getting used to it it's sure a lot easier on your back you know not having
to carry all those instruments right and uh packed for the the Long Haul but you
know you got to get out when you got an opportunity to see a clear dark sky with
a little altitude you will not believe um what you can see and even in the city like I said the
moon you know Jupiter the planets Venus is still looking really good A lot of
the open clusters M36 37 you know Cassiopeia has a treasure Trove those
beautiful uh clusters and we're at a perfect time right now with uh Springtime Galaxy
season upon us yeah it's it's incredible and then if you stay up all night you
might even make it to winter but right pace yourself it's always interesting to
stay up all night and like three or four o'clock in the morning to start to see some a company yeah good season of stars
you know it's like wow okay this is cool that that first inkling of daylight is
depressing because you know you have to start going for targets that
are more visible so the last time we were at Pine house we were chased it
into daylight and it was just getting light it was still a little blue dark sky and I go I gotta try this filter so
I used that new 03 filter um you know after lumicon and I gotta
tell you right we we pulled it in we were looking at the
yeah you really have to scan your telescope around to really appreciate
the whole thing and then you know you Fade to globular clusters and then
planets and then you're done pretty much toast unless you do solar which they
always make me do I can't say no you know I had an opportunity no I mean
so John you've been up all night uh uh
stargazing and you see the sun come up do what do you do you make yourself take a nap and then oh no no no no no no no
we chased the planets because the best time to look at the planets or the Moon
is like right after sunset or Sunrise when it just acclimates you get this
like little bit of a it's seeing it's perfect and you have color like colors
that you see that you don't normally see and I remember we chased the planets it was an amazing night I was looking at
Mars with um probably 800 to a thousand power with my
final viewers and you know with that kind of power is really steady and Tranquility when it
snapped in microseconds I could see craters and I could actually see that uh
the ice cap was like swiss cheese it had holes where it had been evaporated and
it was actually looked like a like a you know an iceberg or a glacier from you
know it was mind-blowing yeah and uh man that is the best time to look at it and
then of course once the heat started to come it it pretty much turned into a mushy situation sure
but you know we we stay up and you try to sleep uh but you're so excited and
then of course I have my little buddy and he's ready to go and I'm not so I have to stay with him
so it it's a lot coffee is my friend coffee's your pal that's right cat naps
cat naps I call them you know you can close your eyes for a couple minutes 20 minutes half hour you're good yeah yeah
yeah that's right and then when you get home you know what happens thank God I have a wonderful wife that that allows
me a coma that's what happens yeah you just I'm crippled it's like it's like coming home from the hospital if you
just gotta recover
that's for sure yeah okay so I'll start it out um I don't have much stars
because we've been clouded out pretty much and uh hearing from the friends that are watching from California so but
I've been busy because any moment that the moon pops out I'm ready and the
other night it cleared it was an amazing night but there was this thin High Cloud layer with some Haze and then it was
real humid in the Marine layer was you know it's been out there every day almost it didn't quite come in but it
definitely caused this diffuse glow with the wispy clouds and it kind of you know
trying to capture the illumination effects and the clouds going over the
moon it's a different um you know it's it's hard to kind of capture what God
makes look so easy you know you look through the clouds and the way they glow and you try to paint
that and it just takes time finally but let me get started artists have
always tried to have that uh where they could create the kind of uh the glow from within you know oh yeah I mean you
know and I hate to say with uh airbrush was a great way to do that but with this
digital platform and now you know everything's zoom and it's you have to
do this this is the the way of the future I mean sure nobody's reading the
paper they're using their cell phone you know so you got to go with it I mean in that
respect I think people read more than they ever did you know sure I mean there's so much more to read you know
but uh it's a lot easier to hear that reading I don't know you know so yeah
ebooks you know to read some very yeah amazing stuff where you can
choose to read junk you know so did Gabriel come on tonight or um
well let me get started okay all right so
this is my um barrage of images
I've actually getting a little better I hope no tev technical difficulties
plague me tonight now that video has been giving me a lot of trouble
um because again I thought I was home free and I wasn't but I think I have the
best thing to do with video anyways is to give it to me okay try to broadcast it up to me and then I try to broadcast
it back out to them it will choke you know so oh yeah so it's it's better if
if I if you say hey Scott run that video you know and I can well I think I can do
it unfortunately it'll have to be uh off my drive my Google Drive
but I I figured that much out you know okay so this is um I was looking at our
son this is uh a guy that does photography solar work he's
not you know Gary Palmer is amazing but this guy gave me a shot he goes check
this shot out I got it looked like a heart you know yeah at first but you
know I went in and painted this uh from his photograph so I have the convection
you can it looks like it's boiling those little cells outside of the actual
Sunspot and then you see that flare coming out of the middle
uh right out of the middle of that thing yeah and I think that's like where the magnetism is connected so the plasma
funnels up that magnetic line field line and um
you know the scale of this thing that it's bigger than the earth probably
the sunspot it's it's hard to imagine but uh what amazing thing stars are and how they're
formed and the life of a star and the death and it's just a cycle you know it
creates more stuff more planets more gas clouds more
asteroids rocks even white dwarfs and also created us
you know the elements that the stars have in them is basically everything has
in the universe you know I don't know about dark matter but it's got to be everything yeah it's got
to be everything this was a uh Eclipse partial annular I forget which one it was a few
years back that was the orange picture uh this is my picture
uh that I did with my granddaughter that night I showed you when she was out looking through my nine and a quarter
that was the night of uh one of the nights we looked at it and she was amazed she kept saying the Moon is on
fire I go no no it's just the Earth's atmosphere
you know kind of like when the Sun rises in the morning you see that real red or at night it's very similar because
you're looking through probably twice as much atmosphere which has a lot of particulate
you know humidity and different stuff in there so it it changes it
this was another view um modern View see the barbed wire fence that was
that was up there by uh McCoy mountain and see me I just wanted to do something
a little different I think I I went a little too crazy on the Simplicity of the Moon
uh but it's a kind of a cool work up mock-up I like to do different styles
this was the one I was trying to capture when it came out the other night so it
was you know very very diffused kind of you know
masqueraded behind a haze of clouds and I was trying to capture that Essence
and that's okay I mean I'm not a hundred percent pleased but
it's not bad this one was cool because uh I just
looked outside for a second and and there was a huge sucker hole so I go I
gotta get do something because I have to have something ready and and I was painting this on my um phone actually I
started and then the clouds came in and like killed me so I had it like you know
basically the three quarters of the Moon pretty good and then that other part I just I couldn't finish it because I
couldn't really see it plus the clouds were covering it so again I was trying to um you know get
the feel and the look of the moon ascending the clouds was the
title this is another one this was uh you know what I want to tell
you and and you know you got to listen here this telescope that you got me so I
use it for my lunar and planetary work so here's an example of the kind of detail that I'm getting with that six
inch triplet you know I don't know what I like better actually looking at the telescope
because it's so gorgeous and uh I polish it with carnauba so I can see myself you
know inside Then I then I know it's real it's mine it's one of my favorites but
um thank you man I was looking at the moon a few months back another night
that and it was amazing but just take a look at this simplification of my
technique I really like this look at the bottom Isn't that cool how the craters are just
soft and subtle but oh yeah we have depth to them
I mean you know on a good night all Scopes will show this but you know having big telescopes it's
great but if you drop you've drawn all of this well you know I went to college
to learn how to do this so I have a very large skill set to be able to do this
um you know digitally it's really a lot more easy because um you have so many more features you
can go backwards you know back in the day it was sitting at an opaque projector for
maybe a couple hours to try to get capture all those and then you have to
stencil out everything to get it perfect you know because in nature lines are
pretty much perfect you know smooth I mean of course there's exceptions but
you know when I was taught to do realistic pictures you want to have nice straight lines and uniform everything
you know stencil and it's shading you know then you just fill it in it's like a contour drawing
the first paintings I ever got were those like oil painting kits with the
airplane in the clouds and you would paint by number right and I think that's kind of what
affected me you know here I'm trying to capture the Earth Shrine I was getting plus there was some Haze in there too
but I mean I love that telescope it to me is is my um lunar scope my solar
scope even with clusters and the Veil even M51 I could see with it really good
so the the scope you use the most is probably the best scope so one that you
can bring out relatively easy that has you know amazing Optics and it functions
really well thermally with the carbon fiber it's helped me help me a lot get some
incredible images here's another one this was uh one night
my son goes to me dad dad you got to go outside and look
at the Moon and it almost looked like a hand with a pearl you know in the clouds
and again I'm moving quick because you know these things change so the clouds were pretty easy to get in
the basic you know layout and then later I would go in with my digital tools and
create the glow and you know diffuse the background a little highlight some of the clouding and just paint it in you
know painting clouds is pretty easy Once you learn you just have to practice and
there really isn't much to it it's just a style and the more you do it the
easier it gets and I love clouds I love clouds because you know the galactic cloud of our Milky
Way yes and then of course the clouds and galaxies and you know big molecular
hydrogen gas clouds that spawn all these beautiful stars and solar systems like
in Orion there are so many baby Stars being born and um with the big
telescopes the Hubble and James Webb you can see those Bach globules where it's
actually like an umbilical cord of gas feeding off the mother Cloud the baby
star when the baby has just enough it kind of burps up and then Burns off the
tip and that's why our Solar System's here because it burns all the material
away and you know the gases will spiral into gaseous giant planets like Uranus
Neptune Jupiter Saturn and the rocky planets and the asteroid belt the comets
and everything else you know is the leftover remnants
so they're good they're bad you know they kill you but we need them another night naked eye
I just couldn't sleep so I got up to like four three Thirty I had to get up
at four anyway and a Riga was setting but these clouds were there and Mars you
know this is this year when it was closer and it had an amazing glow to it
and so it's Mars and ariga these three stars you see are the constellation
ariga and if you would draw go right through the middle of the two stars with Mars upward to the right you would go
through M36 37 38 I believe it might it might be actually the other
side of the bottom so I think one of those Stars Caster perhaps
cool view though you know you just look outside again Cloud paintings it's real
easy to paint clouds once you practice um you know and lately it seems like
there's been a ton of clouds I don't know we've had a lot
this was uh Keith's crater I didn't crop that too well
um this is uh actual volcanic cinder cone
right near Keith's and uh so you know at one point the moon was
very active probably early on before it you know just died out there's no
atmosphere I'm not sure they may still have some kind of uh activity earthquake activity
because I know they measure those Quakes and it rings like a bell I guess
I suppose yes this is another one I really love this one um so this is a nice open cluster for
everybody if you want to see it something real nice and you know the planetary is a little tougher you got to
use um a filter to get it or be it a dark site or in my case I have the
aperture where it doesn't matter where I'm at I'm going to be able to see it but not as good as when you get out to a
dark site and uh usually you don't see much color in it because your eye doesn't really
see that kind of color um they just appear to be more grayish
kind of like the stars so these Stars every Star I had to you know make a
rough diagram of a magnitude not a correct magnitude just you know shading
magnitude from light to dark and then size so so I was able to come back and
then try to you know put it back together like it actually looked in the eyepiece
hey this is tough this was a tough one to get done right you know but that
that's what it looks like from Mount Pinos with the npb filter
and I think we are using uh one of your 100 degree IP or 98 degree eyepieces Jerry
loan me amazingly sharp and um very comfortable eye relief
and these are the kind of views you can see when you're looking through those big telescopes or
even a little scope will show you a beautiful cluster and you'll see that
little donut right in there with the filter it's amazing
This was um another Orion Theta one orionus it's basically the
trapezium area and um so I tried to
capture the glow again it's pretty hard to get it right
but another cool you know I've done about 500 versions of it by now this is
another uh when I do them I like to work up two three four sometimes to have a
you know stock of different versions because sometimes you go too far or you just
you know don't like it so you delete it because you get mad like I do sometimes when I spent hours on it I just like I'm
getting rid of it and I always before I learn how to use this stuff I would accidentally delete them after hours I
mean one time I did I had to paint the Starfield I think it was a swan
the swan nebula I should go back to that tonight just show you that thing I had it so good like it it
looked exactly and I clicked the wrong button by accident because as I was
working on my phone and um gone gone I yell I used to yell and then now I go
John John it's practice practice makes perfect that's right that's right you know all it is it's like even doing
you know it's the same time when it disappears learning to let go
like when you lose your cell phone so that happened to me yeah and the first
time I I almost died from uh stress from you know just having a conniption
and I got it back and then the second time I told myself you know I'm just gonna let it go
yeah and I it didn't get me thank God I was in my lunch pail that's
can't believe it you know these are fun too when I walk my dog it's a little sketch you know I
used my cell phone for a reference but this is all it's a crow these crows
always follow us when we're um locking probably because they don't like my dog
but it was just sitting up there in that rainbow Halo was up there I thought it
was a cool shot it was shy pretty neat a lot of crows out here
okay so that's it for that now maybe I should try let's see if I
can um do this now I'm gonna try to play my video
so I go to iCloud Drive [Applause] actually I'm gonna have to go a
different way
man I wish I could have seen some of those uh earlier I always watch them afterwards I was again every day so busy
like that so I'm not sure how to get it full screen and it may look small you
can see it just you you don't see the flower
nope that is crazy
no I've been happening all night yeah because you know what it should play right now
can you hear the music barely I heard like a little jingle yeah
this is depressing I gotta figure this I thought I was home free Man
Okay so I guess that's not gonna work so let's just uh
go back to some pictures my apologies you know what's funny is it
works it works it's been a night for this it works when it's here at home and
I do the pre-runs it plays but um there's something going
on with uh the zoom which I'm not quite sure it is hmm
but these things happen so we'll just go back to some photos I've got a quite a
selection of photos I can show you
I can get uh get to some of the flowers Maybe that really frustrates me that that I
can't show you that is depressing
has anybody so I have to send that to you right is the idea
yeah you send it to me okay well here's some other shots
this is a a Hubble these were Hubble I was looking at Hubble shots today for
perhaps a background um but
this mouse is very sensitive I like it though
it's got very smooth action and of course I don't have those other pictures
here because I put them in that file
that beautiful file that I cannot play [Music]
I was just seeing if I had the swan in here somewhere can you see my screen right now when I'm
scrolling through no no oh good there's I have all kinds of pictures in here
all right well let me do this one then let's just go to the Hubble one oh wait
here this is cool okay so that
I think that's uh oh yeah that's nice that's a beautiful picture by Hubble
it's nice beautiful great yeah when you look at that cluster inside there so
that's got to be super massive right yeah is that an mgc 602 or I can't
remember but can you imagine that it's just so incredible what Hubble can do
and and that there's so much Starburst going on
there's the other gas cloud this one is where it belched it like the star
actually hiccups or like belched out they said that's what it said on the title
it was HH 438 or something but that's another that was a cool
picture just seeing it you know like that hole with the clouds it's really amazing
very similar to how our solar system probably formed it burns a whole lot of the gas and then you have your Oort
cloud behind it and this was a Galaxy we looked at
m108 the surfboard that was an incredible night at uh Rodeo
New Mexico we were able to see amazing um detail in galaxies from border one
Skies just unbelievable views
you know that's crazy why it doesn't actually let me try one other thing I think I can do it this way
that flower one was so nice I'm gonna make sure next time I'm going to send it to you so you guys can um
see these I've spent a lot of time ahead of time but it's just not cooperating but this
one will Maybe can you hear it
can you see it Scott no no no no that's crazy great a great block
so I I went to the drive it's in Zoom beautiful black
okay you know remember we are positive people we are
so zoomed up you remember you remember frederated right
when these things go south on me that's what I want to do I want to frederate it
right uh for me it's normal you know I hear that where is Argentina because
we are at all time yeah that you described
it's frustrating at times but you know this is what happens you gotta work through it
you got to get through the trouble uh speaking of stars I could just play a
little bit like this how about this spread carbon star the Campbell's hydrogen star that was
phenomenal uh it's still it's still not showing any images
he had our country for station yes yes don't worry
it's a girl yeah that is funny you can't see anything
okay since you're trying to play some videos but it's not yeah I'm a music or
something oh wait let's see what happens nothing
nothing you don't see anything just me still you see the player controls that's
it these technical difficulties you'd have to figure another way I hate
losing yeah so wait now you can see me now yes
absolutely okay oh I know why I couldn't see the photos that's funny
these these things are crazy these uh technical difficulties
all right let me just go one more time and uh I'll I'll leave you go
we're gonna go to Swanee I think I might have it
yes yes yes yes
yeah you've shown that really nice whoa yeah um this thing here so like I
repainted the Stars the problem is is when you go back and forth
uh the image the Stars degrade so you want to try to paint everything at first
you know these aren't really high resolution files so
if you paint them you want to paint them all at once and that's what happened is I was working on these and I don't just
paint I mean if they're not perfect I start over one star could take me up to an hour sometimes just to get it right
it's it's that bad but um this is like a real amazing view
that we've had through the 32 and the 28 and when you
use the filter in these great eyepieces that we have nowadays you just see the most amazing views and
the most delicate nebulosity and intricate little
mulching and tendrils of gas working through and then the stars are being you
know born pulling fuel that's their fuel to grow
that's an amazing cluster though right I mean nebula
yes a beautiful one almost like a Cubist style or something as well
Picasso uh actually it was um Henry Matisse
did a picture of stars but they're very simplified Stars it's pretty cool painting It's
actually an etching but um I know a lot of these guys painted back in the day
well I think I'm pretty much capped out my my musical thing went South again so
I'm gonna have to figure it out next time okay but thank you everyone I apologize about
the mistake beautiful how how you take the impression of of this in your drugs
in your sketch or your pictures but our pictures like no photography no drawing
but it's impressive for me the sensation of big Optics because oh yeah it's
Sensational when you in in your retina when you have a real dark skies and you
are using over 16 inches or 16 inches is the limit
I I know that that when you start over the
yes 16 inches change everything I don't know why and go ahead of this size
do you have so like Gathering that is impressive and it started to appear
Sometimes some colors that you can imagine or yeah like the trivet the trip
it'll show color you capture the sensation yes yes it's great it's it's
amazing no it's good to do it I mean you know for the public like when we do it
my friend Mike Garrett he's up there with his six inch and solved zwo the air
and he's got his little TV and then people will go over there and compare views but you know of course the camera
view shows a lot of more details because you know it has the ability absolutely
but we we can't a
H we can lose for us the real sensation in our retina the the the things in our
last support in cat America every every one stop to take pictures
and start to uh because we start to to
to hate the right of the screens yeah and the people say I don't I don't like
I I don't need this picture here I I need the sensation in my retina in my
eyes and we start to talk come on we are watching without filter a horse hair or
you know many many yes yes we we was it's possible and you need really
transparent Skies yeah the transparency
Los Angeles have it because it was so well so high 4
000 meters oh yeah but we are enjoying in a very cold night
uh we we say okay I don't need this picture I I need to to enjoy the real thing and
this is amazing yeah
they see um in Italy they've seen the horse head a lot
you know um there's some great uh great people there you know a lot of mountainous
regions has some amazing work coming out of you know for Skechers and
but uh in Italy in in where in the North yeah I think the northern portion uh
there was a fella that was doing some uh photographs and sketches too on that I
stumbled into and he was amazing and he talks about uh being up at altitude you
know that's why Pinos is one of a good place to go right now it's amazing
because you're above the clouds
where they have a more less National Park in Italy maybe yes uh yeah
my brother my brother live in Italy from the 2000 year
so yeah um he he told me that it's very very
dark in in one some years ago we when we went to to
make a hunting that is a like a national sport in this area because uh they are
part of their culture and they told me that the the Milky Way is amazing as any
another place in Europe is because it's uh far away of different places from
Austria or Switzerland you know um it's it's a it's a great place
there's oceans too I mean you know look at Clyde tombow you know there is something to to uh
viewing over water because it you know stabilizes and uh so if you're above the
ocean you know on a Mountain close to the ocean you can get some really good transparency yes yes and here near near
Los Angeles is so empty our population anybody live
because it's very very you have a strong a very landscape totally
empty of maybe you can see some llamas [Music]
maybe a copter I'll say come on and this guy is amazing this zodiac alive is so
intense in it was so intense historical light was over Orion Nebula and we
experiment that was so intense the surgical light that was something like I
say come on it's it's something that you can see at Nike's yeah
almost amazing uh the Milky Way when you have the in the High Altitude you can
say the center of the Milky Way in in this in the uh in the Senate when you told me that that
you went to yeah your country I'm gonna say right now I've got to go back that
that view the tarantula uh at the Karina
there's just nothing that compares to that view yeah I mean it's it is it's
unbelievable and in the southern is like a whole new thing and man I should move
down there and spend the rest of my life there yeah we are we are working in the next
Captain America uh star party in in 12
13 um or well three days in the in here it's a national day you know uh and we
have a holiday weekend um it's in October and maybe next Global
party or to support more I present the complete program uh for Catamarca for
this year and of course you're invited that's great everyone everyone
yes and the prices we need Adrian to go there because yes absolutely absolutely
he needs he needs some good ribs and um because I snow down there the the beef is no yeah yes no here barbecue
bread is amazing I mean yes yes this is this is something that we have the
culture that we received from Spain the Gallegos mostly of Spain people came
from Galicia um we are mostly Italian and all about that
we learn from our grandfathers my grandfathers Came From Italy
um about how to cook the pizza the bread that you told me and we received as a
lot of culture of Spain and Italy and it's amazing mixer with very many uh
Inca food like you know the potatoes the
and it did have uh some at some a lot of sorry of
culturing culinary children and it's amazing of course that me I received
more from my mother from my grandmother after my uh I am maybe 70
uh is I am around 80 of Italian
movies I actually thought you were Italian
many many people yes because many people say the same because uh we have we in
Argentina we talk a Spanish but with Italian accent and
it's it's incredible because when you see a very old movie from Argentina or
or uh recorder maybe in 9010 we speak
different but with a lot a lot of uh people that came in the first uh being
War at the second one uh we changed our Ascent to to Italian accent right yes
what talking in Spanish but it's a different thing and yeah it's the same many times you are from Argentina from
Italy I don't know we have Portuguese Italian Romanian uh there are five
Romance languages they're all very similar to Spanish you know well different a different app for me
Portuguese for example the Marcelo sauce is is I can understand
uh mostly of the things if if he taught
in Portuguese but um it's not the same and it's very difficult but you have a very near uh
language um you need to learn more because you
are more able to make mistakes because you think that they understand and you
can right now is it well for for me the Italian language is something that the
people think that I can speak because my face or my yes right and the Italian
people start to talk me very very fast and say no no no sorry say all these two
words wait a minute yes because you because maybe yeah for example say yes
and none of them spoke English but you know what we're under the stars
and I'm I'm get gestry I started absolutely John and they love it they
love absolutely it's something that that that you um you expose in in the things that
you're telling me now is the same I I tell to Scott once a time I I went in
[Music] 1999 uh to pitch State stargaze and then
start party in Atlanta Georgia and I remember that I told to to Scott for one time that about this star party where in
the in this in this year 23 years ago I didn't have maybe the 25 percent of my
actual English I have no more than 25 of my my the words that I told now that I
understood more and I remember that my wife Evangelina helped me a lot because she really told
very very have a very good English yeah yes um and now they have absolutely the
phone yeah we absolutely he's sure and he helped me a lot and then of course
that we went with our son I would think that everything actually is uh processing pictures and
he's a great amateur Strummer too um we went with Augustine our son with
three years old only and of course that in a moment she told me okay I need to
go to sleep with Augustine you know and she leave me alone with people other
stuff well this time I remember that I remember that you told me that I
remember all things that we told with the people that really start to
understand in Spanish in my hair I say how I remember the things in
Spanish because I start to understood completely all because the the jokes the
the things the the feeling about the things yeah with it
we I did I did that to them I told them um um Australia the muerte which is death
of a star and then I showed them the Ring Nebula
like not like what you would expect it was like an actual type of a painting
you know with Reds in it it was uh it was really cool
stylized you know and absolutely I'm comparing this is yes this is the
feeling feeling drunk that you showed that is exactly exactly right it's it's
something that if you compare with 1999 uh oh yeah was a time where the people
in Atlanta asked me about Argentina where is Argentina is are you because 23
years ago we don't we don't have the connection that we have today where we
know and understand and com um share feelings about politics you know or for
example one of my my favorite jobs in TV is a John Oliver show I say okay why
it's American things but comparing is something that 25 years ago was not the
the same way was the last time of of course that existing globalization but
not in the way where today we are connected because maybe if you start to
say oh you can see uh maybe about um maybe you can know about every
single thing in the world only reading something or the the word actually is
really small about this um yes and this is something that
um were people that we share the sky um we uh connect we are connected in
another way um compared with 25 years ago and now is
something that in this time we started to to to be connected in the in the way
where the people is connected now because yeah
that all the technology all the convergence and everything everything changes astronomers the strong numbers
have been the early adopters of things like email and any kind of digital technology they
were the early adopters of Photography they were scripting uh programs all the
technology that they're using daily today astronomers uh uh were some of the
earliest adopters of all of that stuff so absolutely xiaomi it is time to call
it a night um presenters for their quick presentations
and uh uh we will uh we will see you on
the next Global star party so thank you everybody thank you everyone good night
good night have a great evening take care take care good night bye-bye bye-bye
[Music]
thank you
[Music] thank you
[Music]
[Music] foreign
[Music]
Transcript for Part B:
You know
So when does the Nancy Roman telescope go up? Does anyone know?
I'm not sure. Um I heard it was a repurposed military telescope originally. Am I correct in that? I don't know. It sounds right to me. But that's repurposing military stuff into science stuff is always good.
So. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's alleged to be May twenty 27. but obviously that's you know Right. That far out it's going to slide. Okay. That's true.
Here we go.
One of the big terms that people always use is Mars is going to Mars and so you have to have a system that's robust to whatever Mars is going to do. One of the main things we
do on Mars with perseverance is a collect core samples, package them into tubes, and store them in the rover so that they're available to return to our earth in the future.
We've collected a whole variety of different types of rocks. Each can tell us something different about ours. If for whatever reason, over the next 10 years, there's any sort of failure, perseverance where we can't do a direct transfer to
the the return mission. And we need to have some sample tubes placed on the surface to be collected by the future mission.
People are talking in the room. There seems to be another humans that should be. There it is
Congratulations everybody. This is historic. Whoo
This is the backup option for picking up the samples. It's a massive milestone.
It's a big day. It's really a wonderful moment. Um made possible not just by the sampling in but by the team as a whole. And it's been great. Okay I think I have to stop now.
When it works on another planet. You can't really use words to express that feeling of joy and pride and satisfaction and to do it with teammates that you've gotten to know really well and respect a
lot is just priceless.
Hey, everybody. I hope you're ready for another Global Star Party. This is our 123rd event and so we have a wonderful lineup. Uh a new face and I hope you really enjoy it. Uh this the theme of this Global
Star Party is Starlit Reflections and I kind of find that that's what a lot of amateur astronomers eventually he'll reflect on kind of the experience of it and the feeling of it and you know, for
some of us, it's kind of hard for us to put into words but our our presenter is really do their best job in trying to do so. Uh if you haven't noticed
that we're right out in front of the Explore scientific building today where we broadcast simulcast all over the world on social media channels. But
I found this really cool quote from Nikita Gill. And Nikita says that we have calcium in our bones, iron in our veins. Carbon in our souls. And nitrogen in our brains. We're 93% stardust. We should be made
of flames. We're all just stars that have people's names. I love that. That's cool. Anyways starting kicking off Global Star Party in one twenty-three. Uh will be David Levy who is
going to
is a friend Mark Mark Zadarski. Hopefully, I didn't ruin that name but anyways, he's never been on Global Star Party before and he's going to be talking about the Adirondack Astronomy Retreat. David Eicher
is continuing his series of of Dave's Exotic Deep Sky Objects with the dusty hand galaxy. Carol Orange, president of the Astronomical League will be joining us for a little while to talk about the league and
anything else that's on his mind. Maxi Falari
with his astrophotography to the max. So, be on and then we're going to take a ten-minute break and we'll come back with Connell Richards and Connell's Cosmos. Robert Reeves and Postcards from the Moon,
Navin Centel Kumar, Young Astronomer, you might have mentioned that Navin and his father went to the Northeast Astronomy Forum and I was happy to meet him in person. So, it was really cool. Adrian Bradley, in Chasing Dark Skies,
with his amazing
nightscape photography. John Schwartz and Drawing Out the Universe and Cesar Brollo will wrap it up with us about the Red Carbon Star DY Crucis. Anyways, I I'm really happy that you guys have decided to
tune in tonight and we'll take it away. Thank you. Here we are. Uh everyone it's great to
be back again on a Tuesday night for Global Star Party and we are here with great lineup
of speakers as usual. I think I put I put in that our speakers
our astronomers are actually astronomers that are that are made of stardust. I just
thought I'd point that out. So, anyhow, if that was an obvious to you,
No one does an introduction like that. Sorry guys. Anyways, let's get started by our first
astronomer made a stardust and that would be David Levy. David, thanks for coming out to
Global Star Party. Thank you. Before I start, I start Scotty.
Is it possible that you could send me a recording of last week's GSB because I kind of
like to listen to part of it. Of course. Of course, I could. Okay, thank you to download it and. Okay, thanks. Send it to
you. Yes. Okay. One of the things that Scott and I were talking about was that for the
poetic reading. I asked him permission to read Wendy Amongst the Stars Again because I've done some tweaking to it and I'd like to give it another shot. And Scotty's reaction was you don't have to ask me to do
that. Of course you can do that. So here I'm doing that. The rhymes game for this poem I chose. The tennis and in memorial stanza. A BBA. And
here is the poem that I wrote during the day of extraordinary depression. Couple of weeks ago
and I've been tweaking it ever since. Each day I awake. Today
is the day. I look towards her. She is not there. My heart goes
on. But do I care? Well anything. Anything. Let it array. The night is dark. As
dark as cold. The sky is stars from west to east. From south
to north just like a feast. A pill. Heaven sent. To calm my
soul. A telescope stands. Stands and waits for my eye. It
asks just one brief look. Forward through space like an open book and back through
time. Open wide escape. I see a star. Why is it there? Lapis
philosopherum, philosopher stone that strikes the night. It ushers me home as part of a
pattern to learn. I dare. But the reason not. Gener
relativity. Gravity is geometry. No speck of thought. No ideal works. No system bought. A newborn thought of creativity. She's a part of me. A beam of light amongst the stars. In the sky a star. Not
there. But there. Her soul so far. From grief to joy. All through the night.
That was beautiful. Thanks for letting me read that again. And now I'm going to introduce It's a real pleasure to introduce my dear friend Mark Zanarski. I have known him for years because we we have been
together at the Adirondack Astronomy Retreat since it started a lot of years ago. In a way it started in 1964. At a summer camp the Adirondack Science Camp. I was
I fell in love with the place. I would say about 50 nanoseconds after I arrived. And I never lost that one. Held near Lewes, New York, just south of Plattsburgh. Uh coincidentally, it is going to
be in the past of the total solar eclipse next year. Nice. Quite probably so will a lot of clouds but it is in the back. And what we do now is we have every summer a retreat there.
And the spirit of the retreat is to remind ourselves why we became observers and passionate
about this guy in the first place. Mark has given a number
of presentations about the retreat. And it is my deep honour now to introduce Mark to
talk about this year's coming up. Adirondack Astronomy Retreat. Mark Hi David. Thank
you very much. Yes, as David says, I've been going to this
retreat for many years Um and it has a very special place in my heart. Um so without further
ado I'll just see if I can share my screen. And we'll
start talking about the retreat.
Okay. Here we go. So, it's now been renamed the David and
Wendy Levy Adirondack Astronomy Retreat in honor of Wendy. Um so, it's a Summer Astronomy
Vacation. Um so, the whole point, the whole idea just as
David said, is to go and to
find out the reason or refined out the reason why we became
astronomers in the first place. Um I also like to dedicate this talk to Wendy because without
her this retreat wouldn't have become the very special thing
that it has become and without her her effort and her friendship and her love. Um
this this retreat would not have been the or would have been as special as it is today.
So, as David loves to say, we go up there to recharge our
astronomical batteries. We go up and we observe under a dark sky, we relax. Um many of us do
astronomy outreach and we we work with the public all the time which is you know, what we love to do but sometimes, we
want to go and observe for ourselves. Um and not that we
don't love newcomers. We always do but it is a quite quiet place to go up there, observe
with friends, and just you know, be under of pristine sky, at least for the east coast
anyway. So, yes, they retreat started back in two thousand
four. Uh I started going there around the year 2010 if memory
serves. Uh and yes, David has childhood ties to the camp and
this became an astronomy vacation for many of us. And as
many of us know that David was Discover of the Shoemaker Levy
nine comet and this year is a kind of special. It's the 30th anniversary of the discovery of
Shoemaker Leading nine. It's going to keep interrupt you for just 2 seconds. Yes. Did you mention the discovery of SL
nine. This is one of the films that we took that night. That
has a discovery image of Shoemaker Leaving nine on it. Oh wow. So I cheer. Oh, we need
to preserve that in some way. That would be wonderful. Yeah.
Um so, where is it located? Uh so, it's Twin Valley campsite
up in it's owned by Suny Plattsburgh. It's owned by State University in New York.
Um it's sponsored by one of the astronomy clubs I belong to, the North Jersey Astronomical
Group and so the if you would look at it for an address, it would it would be located in
Westport, New York or Lewis, New York depending on what Google searching do but it's right on the border of the of
the two two municipalities. Um so the if you're coming from
you know, major metropolitan areas like, you know, New York City, it is a four to five-hour
drive depending on how leisurely you go up there. Um
but it's also, you know, accessible pretty easily from many of the neighboring states. Um so, many of us so are come
from Canada. Uh so I'm from Montreal. It's about an hour and 45 minutes or so. Um but
when you get there and you come up to Twin Valleys Twin Valleys Road you'll come all the way to
the top of the road and you'll see the observing field and the main cabin where you check in
and all of the small cabins that are that line the observing field in the
background. What a year. Well, obviously, we want to go on a
when there's no moon because you want to go for the the Dark
Sky and usually it's in July and August and this year, it's between July 16th and the 23rd.
And so we have technically it's two sessions and you can
combine them for the whole week. Many of us do. Uh particularly in the northeast because we have cloudy skies so
often. Um but we also have activities in the afternoon,
talks, and all night dark sky observing. Um so if you do
come, just remember the the Retreat One starts from Sunday
to Wednesday. Retreat two is Thursday to Sunday. Now, if people ask what happens to
Wednesday, Wednesday is called an interim day. So, that's kind of a day where you know the
people from the first retreat of leaving and then and and the second retreat may begin on Thursday but many folks decide
to add that day on there. Um so, on the interim day, they're
usually aren't any talks but we often go to the Star Trek Tour and Thai Congaroga which is
quite wonderful. Um accommodations, this is an interesting star party. Most
star parties, you are camp Out under stars. You bring your own
tent. Uh here we have you can bring a tent if you wish but we do have 12 cabins. Um we also
have in the main cabin, the main main building, men's and women's dorms and so we have
full bathrooms and showers and a kitchen. Uh which is kind of nice. Um believe it or not.
It's a little it's a little bit more cozy than you know laying on the the hard ground. Hm The
cabins can sleep up to six. Um they also and particularly if
you come in a family or a group Um you will basically put you all together so you don't have
to worry about you know sleeping in different quarters and whatnot. Um so this is kind
of what it looks like on the inside. Um usually there's only one or two people per cabin. Uh
we don't go crazy, overcrowding the place, but we can they can hold up to six people. Um and
this is what it looks like inside the main hall. Uh this is where we eat, we have our
talks, and we plan our activities for the day. Uh so,
the food schedule which is quite wonderful. Um we're late
risers. So, breakfast is ten in the morning. Uh you know, we have a light lunch around one
o'clock and dinner at 6 PM. Uh and all night long, there are
snacks and coffee in the main lodge for people who do do their all night observing. You
can come in and take a break from all that. Uh the meals are
included. Um the breakfast and dinners are catered by Chartwells. Uh the lunch is
kind of a light lunch prepared by some of the the regulars. Uh usually Lori and Patrice. Uh
sometimes myself. Um but the catered food is has gone a step
up especially last year when we started the retreat again. First time after COVID. Um
they've hired gourmet chefs and you know before. Um they would bring pre-prepared food. Now,
they prepare it in front of you there in our own in our own kitchen which which is quite nice. Uh what do you do when
it's raining or cloudy? So, obviously, there's no observing but attendees will bring movies
or music, you know, a lot of singing going on. Uh we also do
impromptu presentations and trivia games. So, just always something to do. Um ask
photographers who may have done some imaging the night before. Uh they'll get a chance to show
their images to the to the group as well, at least their raw images. Hiking. Um also,
you know, usually on the interim day, some of us will go hiking or if it's, we know it's
going to be cloudy during the evening. We'll go and take a hike but there's there's plenty trails on the site and they are
taking care of by Suny Plattsburgh themselves. The
talks and presentations are quite varied. Um and they can be you know, quite data driven
and technical like someone's spectroscopy and and whatnot. Uh and some can be very
experiential in nature and there's something for everyone with all these talks.
Um so, he's just a couple examples. Some folks will give a talk about their astronomy
vacation at doing Aurora's. Um sometimes, we'll do things about meteorites, poetry, and
everything in between. Mm hmm. Uh so, the one thing we like to
do on the interim day is take a 40-minute drive to Ticonga Roga to the Star Trek experience
which is kind of a Star Trek recreation museum tour and sometimes some of the next
generation cast members and original series cast members will be there to sign autographs from time to time
but you get to go through and tour the entire enterprise and
some of the pieces there are original pieces. For instance, the harp and the meeting room is actually an original piece
and it's signed by all the original series members. It's pretty amazing to see. So, back
on the grounds on site, we do have a 14-inch Mead Schmidt
Castlegreen which LX 200, which we actually got working again last year. Uh so, that's
available for attendees to use. Uh we'll also try some
electronic assisted astronomy out of that telescope this year. Um essentially, it's those unfamiliar with it. It's
similar to video astronomy. We're using astronomy camera and you bring images on the screen. Um we'll do them inside
the observatory and not outside as to not blind anyone out there obviously. Um but it's
still going to be an interesting experience. So the observing field shows all the
directions quite well. Um depending on where you set up. Uh and so going back to this
you know satellite image. Most people here tend to set up near the main this main observing
field road right here on either side of the of the of the South
is kind of this direction here. If you can see it my my by the main lodge and north is kind of up by these cabins over here.
Generally speaking. Um most of your Milky Way photographers
who want to get Milky Way shots tend to go in this back area over here behind the pond. You get a really really good view
of the Milky Way. Um but there's you know plenty of room
for everyone on this field. So, again, it's a place to, where
friends meet and relax through the years, you get to look
through other people's telescopes of varying types and sizes, and it's, it's quite the
relaxing experience. Also, we have a 16-inch Dobsonian for
attendees to use. It was donated by Sky Watcher USA. Uh with one ca at in the middle of
the night, you'll find David looking, searching for comets. So, he he gets first dibs without anyone
Um so, also, speaking of David, if you ask him nicely, he will go and sign your telescope for
you In fact, I think attendee brought one of the explore scientific comet hunters last
year and David saw that. It touched his heart and he signed it right away. It's quite nice.
Um so, getting down to observing. Uh how do you do that in in in this type of
climate? So, we tend to set up once just for the the whole
week, you know, or for half the retreat, whatever long you stay. How do we do that? So, a
little bit of preparation is always helpful here. So, things
that you want to bring. Some extra tarps to the ground and
for your telescope, obviously, bug spray because there's lots of mosquitoes potentially
depending on the temperature. Um both warm and cool weather
close. Um because I've, it is in the Adirondack s. It's generally not it's generally
not oppressively hot but we have had 90° days in in the past and we've had days where
it was upper in the upper 40s in the past. So, I would say, you know, prepare for low 50s
at night, you know, and prepare for, you know, my 80s in the
afternoon. Uh bring a 12-volt power supply, some extension
cords. Uh yes, you can plug in. Uh there's electrical outlets by the observatory and some of
the cabins will run cords which will help and make sure you bring due prevention. Um this place This site is notorious
for having lots of condensation. So, if you have a
Casa Grain telescope or anything along those you know, with a large lens that, you
know, not doesn't have a due shield and even if you do have a dew shield, you want to make
sure you have a dew heater also. Uh TeleGizmos cover for
your telescope. Uh sunscreen, pillows and sheets for the
cabin and a red flashlight we don't we don't look we don't
want to have a white light on observing nights particularly when it's clear outside. Uh
that will ruin your dark adaptation. Um also you'll notice in the large picture at the bottom you see these tents
and those are actually not people camping. Those are garage tents. Um so some folks
will use them to store their equipment, their eyepieces, and then from the weather. Uh and
the Astro Imagers will actually go in there and put their computers in there, a little table, Uh so they can not
disturb the visual observers. So, it's just, just so you get the idea of, you know, you
know, just some common courtesy there. Some other accessories. So, this was, you know, a few
of us set up. We put our tarps together but you can see there's a tarp on the ground
and the tarps over the telescopes, a tele gizmos cover, right? Uh if you happen
to have a mass produced Dobsonian with particle board. Uh I highly recommend having a
tarp beneath the telescope as well as putting one above of it. Uh the reason for that if
it does rain, water can sometimes get trapped underneath the tarp, right? Um
so, the idea here, if you see this little picture, you will fold up the lower tarp underneath the upper tarp and
bungee corded. No water will get in and it will preserve your telescope. Just some, you
know, tips from people that have been doing this for a long time. Things you pick up and you learn the hard way. Um so,
this site is is got very little light pollution where Bortle two three. Particularly if
you're looking south and west, it's definitely, you know, you're looking to a royal sky.
Uh if you're looking north and east, there is a small lake dome. You can see in the picture down here down below.
That's Burlington in the distance there but overall not that obtrusive. Um so, what can
you see at a a dark sky site like this in the in the northeast? Well, if you're used
to white pollution, if you look at hypothetically, you look at M42 and you can see it here late in August in the early
morning and if you're in a you know, an urban area or suburban
area, you can barely see the nebulosity maybe right near the trapezium, right? Uh at AAR,
I've seen it, you know, through my 12-inch job with with all the tendrils and the nebulosity
and and it's just expansive and beautiful and it's just a visual observation. Uh not a
photographic one. It's you know. So, take that and and run with it. So, if you're an all
of your images will be much shorter and your, your
exposures will be shorter, and the objects will show a lot more detail. and The Milky Way
is abundant here. Uh, I've seen my shadow from Venus, which is
pretty astounding, that surprised me. Um, we do get some meteor showers, a lot of
rogues, but also the Ada Aquarius, particularly towards the end of July. We sometimes
see dim comments. just ask David, what's, you know, possibly up and he may be able to point the way to, you know,
you know, a 12 magnitude comet.
So, all of the things you see at, you know, your suburban sky or your low-hanging fruit, Star
Clusters, Global Clusters, Nebula, where they would be averted vision, these are
mostly direct vision So, it's that little light pollution All
of your, you know, lagoon, tripid, swan, and the veil in
particular, you know, using O3 filter are astounding. Matter of fact, my favorite view of
the veil came through our friend David Rossiter's twenty-five inch obsession. Uh I will never forget that image
in my mind and so the closest thing I can come to it is this color picture up here. Um a picture in black and white and
that's pretty much what I saw through the through the eye piece in his telescope. You
know, galaxy's M thirty-three, you can see that without optical aid on a really good
night. Uh M thirty-one instead of just seeing the core, you'll
see dust lanes even in a smaller scope and eight-inch scope will show that to you. Uh
also, I'd advise make an observing list. Uh because all
of your IC objects, NGC objects, will be available to
you to see visually. So, we also do group pictures. So,
both retreats, get a group picture, which is kind of nice and the whole group gets sent that and just to reiterate,
this year, the dates are Sunday, July 16th. Uh through
Sunday, July 23rd. And there is a registration link if you decide you want to go and
register. Uh it's Adirondack Astronomy Retreat dot com. Um
so, That'll take you to the, the, the registration site in
Suny Blacksburg takes care of the, the registration. How much
does it cost? It does, each retreat for adults are about
$330. Um, if you take the whole retreat, it's seven hundred and 10, but that also includes meals on the interim day. Um,
so for children, it's, it's cheaper, obviously, you know, 12 and under, hundred and sixty-five, per retreat, and
that coming to the conclusion. So, it's a week of astronomy in a dark sky. Uh for the East
Coast, this is dark. Um it's a cozy vacation with good people and I say you make lifelong
friends, you really do. Um I've this the people here even more
than the Dark Sky keeps me coming back year after year after year and I talked to
them, you know, via Email, phone, people, you know, that
you become friends with and they're, they could be in Canada, they can be on the West Coast, you make lifelong
friends. So, just want to say thank you, and if there are any
questions, it's Adirondack Astronomy Retreat, uh@Gmail.
com, and Patrice will get back to you as soon as you can.
Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Yeah. I did share the I did
share the link to your Squarespace webpage. So, thank you. Yeah. I have a question.
Yeah. Actually, it's a personal one. One and one of the very first pictures you showed was a
picture of you and Wendy and I believe that the other one was Martha. Yes. I'm assuming that
he could send that to me. I sure can. I absolutely can. I have completed a show for my
remembering Wendy talk that I'll be giving there. And I'd like to include that picture.
Absolutely. Not a problem. Okay. Would you give this talk many times? This is the best.
Thank you. Thank you David. Appreciate it. Thank you Mark. Thanks for coming on to Global
Star Party. And know that you are always welcome to come back. So. Thank you Scott. We really it. Okay. That's great.
Well up next is David Eicher,
editor-in-chief of Astronomy Magazine and he is going down a list of several hundred exotic,
deep Sky Objects and this one is called Gianthus, right, David? It's the Dusty hand
galaxy? The dusty hand galaxy never trust popular names for
Deep Sky Objects ever. Because either these were really bored
people or They were on some controlled substance, I think.
Many of these names, they make no sense whatsoever. But this is what it's called. The Dusty
Hand Galaxy. Dusty Hand. Okay. So I will take it away. Take it
away. I will share my screen. I'll see if I can find the right thing to share. And I
will start a slideshow. and can
you see Hoag's object? A very unusual ring galaxy there. Well
this has nothing to do with anything. Forget about that. It's just a pretty picture. But I do like that object. I think
we'll get to Hoag's object you know about three years from now in this succession of objects.
But not yet. So today I thought I would talk about indeed. It's called the Dusty Hand Galaxy.
You may actually know it better by its NGC number which is twenty-three forty-six. It's a
barred spiral in which is an SBSAB peculiar galaxy because
of some interaction with a much smaller galaxy which we'll see in a moment here. It's a fairly
dim galaxy but not super dim about eleventh magnitude overall in V magne it's a
respectively large compared to what we talked about last week. It's about six arc minutes across. So, you know, kind of
an average Joe, a little bit brighter than an average Joe galaxy as we might call it. Uh
it's about 70 million light years away. The dusty hand. one, you know, one day, we'll get to the bottom of this.
Maybe. Maybe. Can't promise anything but you know, boy. So,
anyway, the interesting thing about this, whatever kind of hand it is, it shows some
warping and peculiarity, Holton Arp was interested in this galaxy. Because there's a small
galaxy that's not very creatively called NGC twenty-1 46A that is idly interacting
with this galaxy and so it's causing some unusual form in the shape of the disc and and
some tidal interactions with the dust. It's about 80, 000
light years across. So, this is a galaxy that's a little smaller than the Milky Way And
it's most notable. This isn't a very well-studied galaxy. Not not like the one we talked about. That's pretty obscure
last week. Or or a few weeks ago before night vacation. Forgive me. But but this is a
relatively minimally studied object. Um it does have a
fairly high rate of star formation. So it's classified and presumably because of that
interaction. Uh it has been tweaked into being what astronomers call a starburst
galaxy with a fair amount of current star formation.
Let me see if it really really wants us. There we go. It wants us to go forward about 10
times. And we'll get to a star atlas here that a little tiny
piece of Ron Stoyan's Star Atlas the Interest Alarm, Deep Sky Atlas, a really nice combination of detail and
portability and you can see the dusty hand here. So, this is
the object and you can see how distorted it is imaged by Mark Hanson. Uh he's one of the
great imagers around these days and this is really a a curious
object. You can see why it caught the attention of Holton Art and others early on.
Because of all the warped detail of the of the disc. Here's a hobble image of the
dusty hand which of course is magnificently more detailed. We don't yet have a web image that I know of of the dusty hand. Uh
but you can see there's lot of star formation going on even fairly close to the galaxy's
hub and nucleus here with these in in this image the way it's it's colorized. They appear
sort of as rusty orange H 2 regions star forming regions
here. So, there's a lot going on much more so than a typical galaxy which operates at a very
slow formation of of a star or two per year like the Milky Way. And that's it. That's the
Dusty Hand. So, I encourage you to get out and look at it. This is also a big moment in the history of our magazine here
because it took half a century but we finally made it to the 50th anniversary issue which is
now just going off to the printer and will be out in August. So, we have some features about the you know,
looking forward half a century and what may happen. Always interesting stories to write and speculating about the
future. Looking back in all the great stories that have happened over the last half century that the magazine has
covered. Uh and Dream, Carl Sagan's widow, the executive producer, Cosmos, has written a
special story as well as Dave Walter, the brother of the magazine's founder who who was
basically was a publisher of Astronomy Magazine in its early years, I wrote a story about
the history of the magazine and all the crazy stuff that's happened. I've only been there
for 40 of 50 years, though. So, part of it is an assumption and then, we've talked about the
hobby of astronomy and how it's evolved over time and also imaging which of course has really rapidly evolved. Imaging
is really unlike it was even 10 or 20 years ago here as you guys know. So, that's a special
issue oversize. It has extra pages and then I will mention
once again the book that I've written recently with Michael Bakich, a child's introduction
to space exploration to inspire a new generation of kids to get
into that new era of public and private space. Also, I'll
mention very quickly, if I can, Scott, we is involved in this as well. We've we've fairly
recently announced that there will be a new Starmis Festival
upcoming next year. Just about a year from now. Uh and it will be in Bradaslava. Uh Slovakia.
Uh and we have all sorts of special surprises and performers and speakers,
astronauts, Nobel Prize winners, rock stars, and others who we will have there a year
from now. And Scott I think you're going to be involved in this again with a star party and with all sorts of specials
there. So I don't I don't mean to speak for you Scott but but
I think we'll we'll get you into my calendar right now.
What what's that? What's that? You put that into my calendar right now so. Yes, put it into your calendar. I'm okay. Yeah.
It it's minimum. You know what? You guys, if you have not been to Starbucks yet, you you can't
not live the rest of your life and not go to Starmiss. I mean,
you will, this is, it is beyond a a bucket list kind of thing.
So, you really need to go You will be, you will be left
transformed. That's the only way I can say it. You will be changed. And it's really
actually easy to get over to those European cities. Some people have asked me, you know, why won't starmus be held in
the United States and there is a substantial amount of government support where we've done Starmus and can you
imagine the United States Congress voting to fund a science festival. Well, I'm not
going to hold my breath. Maybe it'll happen. But the United States Congress, I'm not sure
is familiar with science, let alone supporting of it. So, anyway, it's happening in
Europe again and it'll be a it's one of the, you know, sort of plagues that our founder and
director Derek Israelian has is that each one has to be bigger and bigger and better and
crazier than the last one. So, there are a lot of special surprises coming up with that and Scott, I think you'll be
involved with the star party once again. So, that'll be lots
of fun. I, it's, it's conveniently going to be held
about five weeks after the total eclipse in the United States. So, thank goodness
we're not dropping it on top of a big eclipse. Uh so, you'll be able to go and see the eclipse.
Uh David, I think David Levy, I think will be there as well next year. You'll be able to see the eclipse and then go
over and relax and rest and listen to some great talks about science moving the the
planet forward. Taking care of the planet and also some rock and roll. Awesome. Awesome. So,
thank you Scott as always and I will turn it back over to the head guy. Okay. Alright. Well,
I'm not really the head guy but you know, I get to hang out with you guys who are actually
all the heads. So, we are
ride along now Uh we how the astronomers that are come from
a lot of diverse areas in our
community. You know, you've got the editor of a magazine here that the magazine, the world's
most popular astronomy magazine. You've got David Levy who has given his life towards
astronomy. I'll reach astronomy education and his love and passion to search for comets. Um
Did I say that correct, Mark? Okay, big thumbs up. Alright, that's good. Mark, who is going
to be running a an amazing retreat experience. I wish I
could get away and do it myself. There's I was listening to this and you know, David has
begged me to come many times. Um it is just always been something where work got in the
way and so but I know that you guys have a great time there and I know that people really
do benefit from this. Um And the next speaker that we have
coming up is none other than the president of the Astronomical League which is
the world's largest federation of astronomy clubs. They have over 20, 000 members and
hundreds of astronomy clubs are under its umbrella. And so there there observing programs,
their their long list of awards and recognition programs that
they have. Uh there's something for everyone at the Astronomical League. If you
don't belong, you're not a member, you gotta join. So, we're going to turn it over to
Carol Orange. Thank you very much, Scott. It's a pleasure to
be here and thank you for your kind comments and I would like
to report that the registrations are coming on nicely for Baton Rouge but there's still room. So, if
you're wanting to attend a very event with lots of speakers and
including two or three who are on this broadcast tonight. Come on down. We'd love really love
to have you. And now I would like to share my screen.
You see it?
Here we go. Alright.
And we're good now. Not yet. I'm also an amateur at this is
bare with me please. Very nice picture of you though. Yeah it is.
Have to hit the green share screen button. There's the the screen that you want to share
and then commit to it. Okay. Here we go.
Sorry. There's still no luck. We're we're going to make this happen yet. I bet you. I do
find that sharing a full screen seems to work better than sharing an app. I've seen some
troubles with that but I have nothing but faith that
you're going to get it. Still not there, huh? Not yet. Oh yeah. This is interesting.
Alright, let me go one other place and we're going to make this happen.
Is that good? You're good but no.
Okay. You could talk your way through it. Yup. We may have to do it here in just a little
bit. We're not going to give up quite yet but yeah. You have the that the green button eh
about eh above your your panel. I got to share here. The share button. Okay the the share
button and then you have to click the window that you want to share. If you put the first
one is going to be there on your computer. But if you select another single eh window
it will be that only window. And then you you put Sharon,
that's all.
And I'm sorry guys, we are going to get there. I think. We're going to make it happen.
Yeah You can do it Carol. You can do it.
On my desktop and that should work. You have multiple
screens, Carol? I just have the one as all. Okay.
So, I'm going to slideshow. I'm going to share. And I'm going
to
go to where my file is Which is on the desktop.
Are we there? No. Okay. I think we're just going to have to
talk through it. Okay. Okay. Uh in Kansas City, we have got a
world-class science engineering and technology library. It's located at Linda Hall Library.
That's the name of it. And it's noteworthy because it is world
famous for collection of rare books in the collection. If
this had been working, I was going to go through the various
various
various store atlases of the world. In fact, the title of the talk is the Golden Age of
the Celestial Atlas, an exhibition of rare books from the collection of the Linda Hall Library. While the primary
ancient literary literary sources and the constellations were from a Guinness, from
Venice in fourteen eighty-two, and the residence in the Renaissance, the work was usually attributed to the Roman
historian, C. Julius. Hi, Junior, hygienist, who lived in the first century, BC. But now
we know it was probably composed by some other person with the same last name at a
later date. A poeticon
astronomicon was published in fourteen eighty-two in Venice. Although this early edition had
star positions indicated, they have little to do with either the positions described by him
or the actual positions in the stars in the sky. And the image I had here if we could see it,
was a woodcush cut version of Perseus. The next Atlas, that's
part of the special exhibition that they have now to an online
situation. It used to be strictly at the physical location. They put special
events together but now it's totally online. I'll have a link for that just a little bit later. The second major atlas
that was published was by Johann Bayer. Iran Metria in
sixteen oh three. That one contained fifty-one star charts. One for each of the
traditional 48 Talmaic constellations plus a chart of the newly discovered Southern
skies and two planet spheres. While the main features of this
book is that it was an atlas, a collection of maps written in a pictures. Each plate had a
carefully engraved grid so the star positions could be read off to fractions of a degree.
These positions were taken from the catalog of Doc O'Bri which had circulated in manuscript in
the 1590s, but which was only printed in 1602. And one of the main features of that sixteen
oh three publication was the fact that this marked the
introduction of a new system of stellar nominator. Greek letters were assigned to the
brighter stars generally in the Order of Magnitude.
Another novelty of bears Iran Metria was the inclusion of a plight of the Southern Stars discovered by 16th century voyagers. It also included 12
new constellations. While the odd features are the aroma
uranum metria is that Bayer shows for some reason to show many of the human constellations from the back
even though traditionally they all faces. Unfortunately this caused lots of problems for
astronomers as well and they did some changing in the next publication of a major atlas.
In 1690, Johannes
published his work and this was the first Star Atlas to rival Bears Uranometria and accuracy,
utility, innovation, and influence. It is unique among the Grand Atlases in choosing
to depict the constellations as they would appear on a globe that is from the outside
looking in rather than from a geocentric point of view as bear and others adopted. Is
that was also introduced 11 new constellations. They all seem to add new ones as they were
going along. Uh not all these survived. Some were some were
added to other constellations over the years. Then in 1729,
John Flemstead published his Atlas Cole Lettuce in London.
He was the first astronomer, Royal of England, and presided over the building of Greenwich Observatory. He was a dedicated
observationalist astronomy He also published or after his
death actually. Uh the British Catalog of Stars was published in 1725. Well, after his death
and it brought stellar astronomy to a new level. His star Atlas was published four
years after the catalog but had been in development for over 20 years and it was based on
Flamstead's new more accurate observations. Flamstead ejected
to the reversal and the appearance of bears earlier depiction of the constellation
figures. Then to end the golden age of the celestial atlas. We
had Johan Bodhi who published his publication in Berlin in
180 1. If the golden age of the celestial atlas began with bears publication, it ended
almost exactly two centuries later with Bodes Uranographia.
The largest star atlas that has ever been published and it also had the positions of more than
17, 000 stars as well as just about every constellation, every invented, and no less
than twenty-5 nebulae that have been discovered in catalog by William Herschel. Practically,
everyone proposed since Hebelius is included here as well as five brand new ones.
And the Nick Slidey, I'm going to give that and I'll send that to you. Uh Scott, I'm going to copy the link to this exhibition. Okay. Put that in the in the text there, the
chat. Okay. And if my sister had been working correctly tonight, the next thing I would
show you is a picture of her one and only David Levy from
two thousand fifteen. And that was featuring him and several
trustees from the Linda Hall Library as well as their president. They the picture shows of his observation logs. Many of which are stored at the Linda Hall Library. And
earlier in the month of September of twenty fifteen, David presented his observation logs to the Lindhall Library following his lecture, writing the same book over almost 60 years. A record of a not
watchman's journey under the night sky. And then David wanted me to also let everybody know that in addition to his observing logs which are a part
of the collection at Linda Hall Science Library. He also donated his donated his first
telescope a 3. 5 inch Sky scope to LHS as well. So that is my
talk. Uh and thank you so much and so sorry of the hassle with
the it is no problem. It is no problem Nope. Still a good talk. Now we could probably, I
guess, a last resort would be to Email it to someone and have
us present and we work together on it. The talk was still really good. So, we still got a
lot of good information out of it even if technology didn't
want to help us. Thank you so much. I I'll admit I'm an amateur at this sometimes as well and I I apologize for
that. But anyway, that's that's my talk and I I wanted to make sure we
recognize David, his collection at Thunder Hall. And one thing I might say about the rare book collection that Linda Hall, those rare books, one can set an appointment at the Linda Hall Library and go at and
physically touch those ancient manuscripts. Oh my god. That's wonderful. And they have in
addition to Star Atlases, they also have many first edition books, astronomy books, as well
as other scientific books. So, if you're ever in the Kansas City area, I would really encourage you to stop by and we
can make the arrangements to make that happen. So,
so much. You, yourself, Carol, do, do you or does the astronomical league get involved at all with the Linda Hall Library? Yes, we have been involved. Uh actually, anytime we had a a strong convention in
Kansas City, we've always had some kind of a rare book display for our patrons that
come to convention whether it's a national convention or a regional and so there, it's it's really they have really
updated their capability of sending data and articles to the whole world. So, you can get online, go to Linda Hall. You're doing research about a certain scientific bill to study. They can Email that
information to you. They make it very seamless and very easy to do research as and it's it's I would highly recommend it. It's great. Awesome. Okay.
Thanks very much and again, if if you guys are, if you don't belong to the Astronomical League, definitely visit their website Um at Astro League. org and
The other thing I'm going to recommend that you do is you tune in to their Astronomical League live programs. They have special speakers on. I don't know who the next speaker will be for the next event. Derek,
do you recall the date in I believe it is the second Friday of this month. In fact, it's coming up I believe on the maybe the 16th and. Okay. Home of that. But it's a week or two
and we'll be publishing it. So make sure you check on the
league webpage will be published in that And I I think that's it and I'll put it maybe actually it might be on the ninth. The other thing I'm going to talk point out is the Mid States Regional Alcline is
happening in Tulsa, Oklahoma on the ninth as well. That that starts over the weekend. Uh
one of us from Explore Scientific will be there and I might be able to get away myself. It's it's it's not too far away from us. Excellent. It's being held in Jinx, Oklahoma, which is a suburb of Tulsa and they had a
world-class planetarium there which would be really interesting to see. So, feel free to come. I'd love to have you. I would like to add my congratulations to you, Carol, for this wonderful overview of the Linda Hall Library. The
first time
I was there was in two was when I was doing research for my doctoral thesis. And I went there to do some find out some things about Shakespeare. I had gone to two libraries. One was the Folger in Washington. And
the other one was Linda Hall. And while I was there one of the librarians brought out to me a copy of
of an original observing log done by one of the most famous one of the Herschels. Her name was the John Herschels. Original blog. And I was just relishing that. Oh yeah. And it was that moment that I talked
with them about donating my observing logs to them. And that turned out for my next visit. The one after that I donated my personal journals to them. And then finally came the
telescope itself at the end. Uh some people have been asking
about the telescope that I'd used to discover most of my comments with. That is being
donated to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada so that they can put it to
better use than I can at the moment. I have I have Eureka
which is an explorer scientific 12 inch which I'm now using from my comic search. It's a
little easier to move around. And a little easier to use. But
Carol excellent. Wonderful presentation. Thank you. And I'll put the real thing out some place on the internet so
everybody can see it. Sorry for the mix. Misha. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks very much guys. Um
next up is going to be, we're going to go down to Argentina to to Maxi Flares and Maxi,
thanks for coming on Global Star Party tonight. Um it is
it's always a pleasure to see the beautiful images that you make.
Ice. That is if your internet doesn't freeze. Your internet does not freeze. Maybe it's
just holding really still. What do you think? Uh Oh, there he goes. He's back. Okay. Hey.
He's back. Yeah. I I got connection issue. I don't know. I when I started the GSP, I
didn't have any problem. I said, see you very good.
Right. Hello? You're okay now. You're okay. Okay. It's low
bandwidth. We can tell but okay we can. Yes, I I don't know. I
don't know why my connection goes pretty rough but as well. I hope you you see me good. I
hear me good. Yeah. We do now. Yes. And we think it was just a jealous astrophotography's
pulled a plug on you somewhere. That's right. Yeah, maybe. They say, oh, man. And they put it
back. Yeah. The evil eye that we call. Right.
So, well, thank you for reminding me tonight. Eh I'm glad to be here. Eh like every
Tuesday night with you guys. Eh what I'm going to show you is
eh what I've been doing this last last eh Sunday we now eh
you know we have a full moon practically but eh for now eh
that's not a problem to do after photography you know. Eh you can do of course take
pictures of the moon and then you can try another Objects. Even if you have eh filters or
something like that, they eh you eh can help you to take
more eh sharpen and details from deep sky objects. Without
that light of the the bright the moon and of course if you are in a political eh air area
of lights. So Okay, do you ehm
I'm going to share my screen. Okay, do you see it? Yes. Okay,
the the connection gets established. That's coming soon by the way. Yeah. You wake up,
you were coming in a couple of months and next year. Soon to the center line near you.
That's right. So, get prepared for that eclipse. Get get prepared. So, well, eh what I'm
going to show you, this is eh from Stelarium eh software. Eh this is the the day of what I
was taking pictures was last fourth of June at 10 PM eh from
here maybe and you can see at the east is the almost full
moon rising up and behind that we have the The core of the
Milky Way but the moon is is pretty shy eh shining and you
can't even see it but behind that you have all these beautiful places to to to
watch. But anyway I put my equipment outside in my backyard and I put eh also I
will work it with the extreme filter eh of one inches and twenty-five eh to take pictures
of a place called eh the liberty statue that's eh
besides of the Kalina Nebula and it's a good place that with
this kind of features grows up the the details and the shapes because taking single shots is
really really difficult even if you have light pollution and if you have a full moon but first
of all I want to show you what a what what kind of sky that we
have here because eh for example this is my north
you can see Arturo's star I of course I'm in the Southern Hemisphere so everything that
you know it's upside down like if I watch it eh yeah and if
you show it from the north so I point this area because I did
some pictures with my cellphone to the scope and a little of the sky so you can see that's
my night that that was my night eh and you can see here is Arturos and eh here is the the
Nebula from Lions eh eh constellation and of course
this is my equipment and a couple of trees this is a banana tree from of my father
and a couple eh Naranja Limon orange limon eh another kind of
trees and almost and I was taking pictures of three eh
thirty seconds with my cell phone and you can see here how eh in a couple of 20 minutes eh
change the position of the of the telescope but almost was
illuminated you can see there is here is a shadow of the banana tree because this is the
light that eh Reflection eh we have of the moon. So that's why
this is not on the day. This was 10 PM. Almost 11 PM. Hm. So
basically eh it's eh when I took pictures of 30 second with
a cell phone eh with only a tripod put it and leave it to
take pictures. Eh I could have this. And in this case I am
working with the NEQ six eh eh CWO fifty thirty-three ehm
color camera eh and guiding with these eh two eh two
hundred ninety eh MM eh eh CWO
camera and of course the the eight inches telescope and this is eh like we call it eh when
you do it yourself or do it yourself ehm eh that I made
with eh Neoprene. Mhm. To to protect more the the the coma
corrector because eh you can see the here is a hole that eh
eh holds the the spider of the secondary mirror and nearby
there is the edge of the scope. So it's
I don't like too much. It's a short telescope and they put out eh too much eh to to show
they did eh to short the the the the cylinder of the scope,
but anyway, I did this chill. Eh, you can hear me? Because.
Yeah. Okay, yes. Now, it it pops up eh eh a warning of my
instability connection but okay, so you can see here the,
the sky is moving, and
Yes, no problem. No, I think I'm. Okay, so, for example,
this is eh a couple of stars, and I don't know if you can see it, is unfocused the star
because I want to focus to the detail of the scope, you know, and that's why the the starter
more rounded and with little details, but when you go to eh
stadium, you can see the same area with these stars and this
L, From here.
You can have the the L here and this is the star. Well, so
hello. Hello? Ah, okay. I hear
some sounds that you hear me. No, I I hear some sound that make it makes me think that I'm
losing connection so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If, if, you do have a low bandwidth, but you're,
you're sharing the screen is perfect, and so it's okay.
It's. Okay. Now, okay, let's, let's continue in. So, well, here are, here is the, my, in
my polar, eh, so polar, eh, celestial pole. And
changing the meridian, you know, let me put it like this. Here's the sound. So,
basically, this calf is the second meridian and eh I went
to this place, you know, here's Karina Nebula, this is the running eh eh running chicken
nebula that I don't know what it cost like that, and beneath us these two nebulas, we have
this place, this is the Eliberta liberty statue nebula
because eh it's it has the shape of eh liberty statue
uprising his arm and is like a perfume. So I try to do
pictures of this place eh with eh narrow band eh eh filter to
of color and the result was almost this eh for example let
me This is a single shot of 3
minutes. Excellent. So, you can
see it's almost the same eh feel of you that I have here, you can see this real square is
the the sensor eh with my telescope, this is simulator.
So basically, eh I have this practically this place, you can
see here, there's a, an open cluster, little open cluster, of course, it doesn't it need
little but anyway I try to capture this and eh You know,
but ehm ehm fighting with eh light pollution because this
place is on the eh south of my city and to the south I have
the core of the city so the the light is pretty shine and of course the the LEDs lights is
pretty tough but anyway with this eh filter in three minutes
you can see it protects a lot of that light and also I have the Moon. So it's really really
good filter. and also I love the stars. It's they are pretty
much rounded. You know? For example this one. This is I
think the collar mission was good. Finally
Okay. Looks like we're frozen up here a little bit. Let's see if Maxie can recover.
The great smile though. It is. Next part of the sky.
Maybe may have lost him. May have
lost him.
And we did. We did. So, anyways, Maxie may come back on
with us later and get a little bit better connection here. Um we are
about ready anyways to take our first a break. Now, our first break but our only break for
Global Star Party and I have been playing some of these
wonderful programs that were put together by NASA and are
symphonic interpretations of of
the visualizations that Nyasa has done and so I'm going to
play this one for you. I think you're really going to love this. Um this all has to do
with the moon. So, here we go.
Hey, Scott. Before you play that. Yes. Uh if I'm going to
have to be departing at this point but if you can send me last week's Global Star Party,
I'd like to watch for you. I will do that. Okay, thanks. You too. Okay. Thanks. Thanks,
David. See you next week. Okay, here we go. Hey, Adrian.
Farewell, my friend, David.
That was incredible. Um we are back and Maxi was able to
regain his connection. So, he's just got a few minutes left before we go to Connell
Richards. Uh Maxi, do you want to you want to try to finish up here? Yes, I will
try. Okay. My UC force get crashed but I think I have reset it so. Okay, let me share
my screen again and Okay, do you see it? Yes.
Great. So, we were on Pix Insides, so this is the, the
stack of the Liberty statue in Abuda, here, and in the right,
you know, I eh only did a one process of this place but anyway without that process
it's, it's really amazing place to, to capture, you know, but then I continuing, I the the eh
the name background eh extraction so gets more eh
flats of the of the of the eh the background and and then
when I process this image it changed a lot of of the of that
I get this you know this is like I said this is my first eh
process of this eh amazing place. Yes. And you know I
really love the different shapes and colors of this place. You know this like is
like a tree And and here is changing the color and the
shapes and the lights. And this eh long bear of eh the tapestry
of of dusty Nebula against that that really electric looking
you know, branches coming off in the center there. It's really cool. Let me get some in
a little more but of course if I get Sumit, it will be distortionated but anyway, I
also love the stars that I get they are pretty much
circulary and the spikes too. Uh I I didn't have, well, look
at this amazing place to this dust that gets with the light
with the stars and this I I'm really happy to capture this
one because I wanted a long time ago and when I do without
the filter, it's only a little shade of this and of course the
the more lighting places but that's all. Eh so well, I think
this is eh all for tonight and sorry for the the the issues.
That I get but you know it could happen And after many of
us, of course, so. Yeah. Well, thank you Scott. Thank you for making the effort and thanks
for sharing your great work with us and It's a pleasure. Next time, okay? You'll see you
next time. Bye bye. Take care. Alright. Okay and so, what we're going to do now is we're
going to transition over to to Connell Richards. Connell has
been on Global Star Party several times and it's always pleasure to have him on. He always gives a great
presentation. Look full of information about not only the experience that that he has and
shares with normally with a group of people around him but also his great
astrophotography. Connell, I'm going to turn it over to you, Matt. Alright, thank you very much for the introduction,
Scott. Um I should mention those images earlier, Max, you were beautiful that you can really see the Statue of
Liberty kind of coming out and that video we looked at during the break of that symphony over
those images of the moon was really a great transition to what I'm talking about today
which are some of what I call off the beaten path lunar targets. Uh these are craters
and mountains and and reels and things like that on the moon that I've come across lately and there are objects that or I
guess features that we don't really see brought up in a lot of the lunar books and you
know, astrophotography a lot but there are things I think are are certainly worth looking at. Some things that have an
interesting story to tell. But before I go into that. I have some images to share that I took today through all of this
wildfire smoke. I'll share my screen here. Let me know if you can see the PowerPoint okay.
Yes. Okay. Playing around with all the the
Zoom handle bars right here. Okay. There you go. Alright.
So, on the cover slide here, I have sketches of two craters along with an image I took of
Copernicus. Um Scott over on the left is I think it's yeah,
a southern polar crater. Uh very far down. Uh little bit like Klavius in appearance but
you're kind of looking at it Edgeon which is really cool and then there's Messier on the right which is one of the
features I'll be talking about today. Uh but like I said, first comes this wildfire
photography. These images this one right here was taken at five oh five local time when
the sun was thirty-six degrees high in the sky. There's no filter here. That's pretty much
what it looked like to the naked eye. There is the disc of the sun barely coming through.
Um the sun in this instance was even dimmer than some stages of
lunar eclipses that I've seen. That's kind of what it reminded me of. Uh because the whole horizon is kind of dark. Um
kind of like a solar eclipse. Uh and so much of the sun is is
blocked out here. In fact, you could just look at it straight, you know, without any filtration and it was, it was
pretty dim. Uh here we see a little bit more of it coming out and these are the raw images I grabbed earlier. Um
and then after this, I zoomed in and I tried to take an image through some binoculars that
was, you know, really odd way of doing things. I was getting these slightly clearer patches of the smoke but it was pretty
thick and pretty pretty wide over the state. Um I should reference here that I'm living
in Northeastern Pennsylvania. That's where I took these images from. And this smoke is coming down from Quebec and
it's coating New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and I think quite a bit farther down
the East Coast as well. But in this image here, you can just barely see one of the larger
sun spots on the sun right now. There's one there. There's one a little farther up here. Uh no specs on the lens and I do have
a little bit of a cleaner image later that I took about two hours after that. Here's one of
the sun setting. Uh I think it's about 10 degrees high at this point and I got it nicely
set between the two pine trees there. I was going out and looking around trying to see if I can get one more good shot
for tonight's talk and there it was. Um I zoom in a little bit here and you can see that sun
spot again. That big one there. Uh and such a deep red color. Uh almost kind of an orange. It
was really another worldly thing to see. And with how the forecasts are looking it looks like
things will be even smokier tomorrow, unfortunately, for us, because as soon as you walk
out the door, you can actually smell it. It's like you're standing next to a campfire. It's very thick right here. Uh,
but we're also expecting some thunderstorms and rain in the near future. So, hopefully that can clean up the, the lower
atmosphere a little bit, and quite literally give me some breathing room. Uh, but on to
tonight's main feature for the talk, which is these off the beaten path lunar features. We start off with Messier crater
which we saw in the title slide here. And on the right I have an image that I took of the
moon. You'll see this on all of the forthcoming slides. Um it's
right about the full phase and I have a red box there to indicate roughly where this is. On the left here I have another
picture. This is taken from SmartPhone app called Moon Globe and it adapts images from
the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. Kinda overlays them on the moon and then puts these features on top of it. You can
get labels there. Uh and that's a much look at kind of what we're looking at. And then I also have some information in
the upper left and that comes from a book called the Moon, Mars, and Venus by the famed
lunar cartographer, Antonin Ruckle, I believe is how you pronounce his name. Uh but he
has the famous Atlas of the Moon that that quite a few people are a fan of and right
here next to me, I have the smaller kind of lighter version that talks about the moon in
Venus as well for the Mars and Venus as well. It has some maps in there. Very good book. I do recommend it. But back to
Messier Crater, it's quite a small one, about 10 kilometers in diameter. Uh it's way over
kind of towards this eastern limb of the moon just south of the Sea of Tranquility. And you
see it has this double impact here. So it looks like a rock was kind of skipped on a lake. There's the main impact here.
You see Messier with the actual label on it. And then just to the left of that you see a
secondary impact. So maybe a piece shattered off. Um the impact split in two and and was
kind of traveling together. Maybe it skipped off. Uh just like a rock on a pond. But we kind of can tell that these are
related because if you look to the left of this, you can see these rays here. There's there's a big one to the north,
big one to the south and they're just shooting straight off several times the diameter of the crater. Uh so, it looks
like this impacted at a really shallow angle and just kind of skipped off the moon right
there. It's a really beautiful crater to see. Um you can get
Of course, more detail on the craters. If you look at them when the Terminator is around that location, but if you wait until a little bit later, like a first quarter or a full
phase, you can see those rays really illuminated, and it really gives the crater a lot of dimension. It's definitely something I recommend checking out. And this crater, like all
of the other features I'll be talking about tonight, are within the range of small and medium-sized telescopes. It's always nice to have some things for everybody to observe. I
come next to Bessel right here And in the
to the left or this picture here, we have vessel crater right in the middle and you can kind of see the rays stretching this way. It runs north to south. You can see it quite
clearly in the larger image and my interest in this ray was kind of provoked by a Sky and Telescope article. Uh some years ago, I don't remember the exact issue. Uh but
essentially, the story behind this ray is that if you look at Maps of the Moon, you try to trace this back. It doesn't really seem to come from a notable crater. It's named
Bessel because it run right through this vessel crater right here but this crater
doesn't really seem to have a lot of rays around it like, you know, Copernicus or Tyco down here would and this is such a
huge ray. There's some speculation that it might have gone all the way from Tyco down in the Southern Hemisphere of
the Moon and kind of splashed up right into the Sea of Serenity. Uh there's speculation that the crater
that might have made this ray has now been covered up by past lunar geologic processes but
its origin has never been quite pinpoint and as I think the
clip we watched earlier with the symphony kind of showed, though not in words. The moon is a very mysterious place and
it's hard not to feel that when looking at it. There's a great sense of mystery and beauty when observing the moon and you can get a part of that yourself
even if you're observing with binoculars with how bright and long this feature is. It's about 600 kilometers long and
of course, well worth a stop on your quest of lunar targets.
Third, we come to Montesbrook which is way over on the limb of the moon right here where
that red box is. And the picture I have on the left shows kind of what it looks like at an angle. Uh but I was
doing some sketching of this. Uh in fact this whole talk was inspired by an Astronomical
League observing program called the Lunar 2 program. They have a lunar program where you kind of look at the Cs and some
of the major craters. But this lunar two program goes into a little bit more detail and it directs you to observe some
slightly more challenging objects on the moon. And over the course of of observing in
that I found some of these odd target and that's kind of why I thought I'd share them here. But Monte's Rook, the reason I
bring this one up is if you look at it just at the right time when the vibration is very favorable, you're looking at
the mountain range, edge on, and it borders Maurai Oriental. It's kind of a curved mountain range like Montesura up here.
Uh, but of course, we're looking straight at the side of it. And you can see, there's peaks here, there's valleys
here, and there's one point where you look at, at the mountain range, and there's this very distinct V shape. So
you're kind of looking edge on at these cliffs. And like a of these other targets I bring up
tonight. It brings the moon a lot of dimension and a lot of life And like I mentioned earlier the vibration can be
just favorable to see that but it can bring us you know a little bit toward us and a little bit away from us as the
moon is kind of rocking back and forth in its gravitational title lock with the Earth. And it brings our our solar system
quite a lot of dimension. It shows us how dynamic the universe we live in is. It's
always nice to be reminded of that. Uh in the targets that we choose to observe forth I come
to Montoygans which I think should be a stop on every lunar observers list if you're trying
to cross off the the biggest and the tallest and the best. This is the tallest mountain on the moon. It's about 15, 000
feet tall or 5400 meters. Uh it's located right in the Apanine range right here. And
you can kind of see it. This is around the first quarter phase. Uh where this simulated image comes up. Uh you can see the
angle right there right where the Y and Hoygans is. Uh it pass quite a shadow if you look
at it at the right time. And it's similar in height to probably our highest Alps or maybe the extreme end of the
Rocky Mountains. Uh if you want to get some perspective here on Earth. But it goes straight down as we can see.
You can find it with this ghost crater outline. Uh looks like there was a crater there in
very ancient times in the moon. It's been filled in by magma. But you just see the rim of it right around here. And it's
kind of you you can't help having some curiosity of what it would be like to stand down here on this plane and look at
that mountain and kind of wonder what a tall mountain on the moon looks like especially because it's curved so much
more sharply. It's a smaller object than the earth. Uh it really brings some more mystery
and beauty to the moon like I mentioned earlier. Finally, tonight, we come to Rema Hadley
and the reason I say this for last is I believe it's one of the best. It reminds me quite a lot of what a scene on Earth
might look like. Uh so, the Rema on the Moon, these are reals. These are cracks and and
ravines that have formed in the magma through through various methods and you can see it
sneaking through the mountains right here. Now If you were to extend this simulated image on the bottom left, kind of right
down here, if you kept going down, down into the left, is where you would run into
Montoygan. So, this is in the same mountain range, just a little bit farther north, if you were to slide up that
curve. But we see some mountains here, kind of to the northeast side, and then the southwest side, we also see
some other mountains, the main part of the Apanine range, Rima Hadley runs straight through it, you can kind of see it
snaking through, there's mountains there, you see Apollo 15 landed there. So, I'm sure there's some great pictures
that those astronauts got And it almost looks like this reel here is sourced up in these
mountains. Uh much like we have ponds at very high altitudes and they start to form rivers and they have tributaries. And
they snake down through mountain valleys. And it almost looks like a floodplain down there. And obviously the moon
doesn't have the great flowing water rivers that we have on earth and and some of the forested mountains. Uh but we
can look at the moon there and see just a little bit of the earth in that. And I think that's a really Beautiful connection to have the two
celestial bodies and and perhaps maybe you're even observing from a mountain valley or a mountain top. Much
like the one we're looking at here but from very different geological circumstances.
Again, these mountains are quite high. Uh it features the Apanine range does Mons Hoygans which is the tallest and then
we also have Mons Hadley which is quite tall as well. The Apollo 15 astronauts returned some great images of that and
we had this approximately 80 kilometer long rail snaking through there. So, next time
you get out and maybe you're bummed out that the moon is kind of brightening up your
your deep sky plans. I still recommend getting out your telescope and taking a look at the moon because as much as we
enjoy these great features like Copernicus and some of the the larger mountain ranges and the
and the bigger and brighter craters. It's nice to take a second look at the moon and really take in all of the finer
details. So, I encourage you to get out and do that. Thank you very much for having me tonight. Awesome. Awesome. Very
much. Uh very much enjoy having you on Connell. Um you know, I
think that when you observe the moon and really study in the way that you have, you really
develop an even deeper bond with the moon, you know, and it makes you think of all the the
aspects that the moon and the and the earth you know, the dynamic that we have with the
tides and and you know, thank goodness we have a moon such as
we have. So, you That's great. What is your favorite part of the event? Uh in terms of a
feature or some aspect of the movie? Yeah. Um I think I might
have to point to Montoygan's one of the objects I talked about tonight because I remember learning about that
very on in my observing career and thinking about mountains that I had seen on Earth and that was kind of the starting
point for developing a deeper connection with the moon and with the cosmos. Uh I've been
doing a lot of deep sky observing lately but like you say, it's really nice to go back to the moon sometimes.
Kinda go back to basics to where you started in astronomy. Right. Uh so, Montoy was one of the the biggest and best
features that I was first able to find and that's one of the reasons I included it tonight.
I'd like to have, I'd like to see many other people have that same experience with that mountain. Excellent. Well, thank you very much and and we
will we'll see you hopefully next time. So, our next Global
Star Party. Uh let's see. We have a lot. Looks like we have
a little bit of a change in our schedule here. Um so, I am going to switch over to Adrian
Bradley. Adrian, are you Yup. I can I plan to sort of wing it.
Yeah. Um it's time because there's a couple things coming up. You've got an annular
eclipse and I think Scott, you are going to be hosting an
event. That's right. Yeah. And we're we're going to have our first eclipse expedition type
of star party, Stargaze, it'll be in Hill Country of Texas and
it'll be in the same spot. Actually, you would go and set up in the exact same spot and
come back just six months later and witness the total eclipse from the same area. Frost is
the same area. Yeah. Crossroads and the eclipse of Star Party Um and so yeah you can you can
find more about that if you just go to Explore Scientific. com forward slash eclipse and
and learn how to take part in that. So. Yeah so that was one of the places that I considered
going to I'm publicly sharing. I sent you an email about a
friend of mine. One of the many folks that giving out presentations about where to
see the eclipse. That would be one really good place to go. Uh
I'm going to share screen because I'm also going to talk about planning and preparing
for your night photography shot which I think is also a good I
think it's also a good thing to discuss as well. So so a couple
of things here. Here does the information you were talking
about, Scott. Here is, here is the gear to invest in now would
be a great time because these variable large aperture solar
filters, these glasses, these glasses are going to go fast
when it becomes time for the the actual solar eclipse
whether people go to totality or annularity or if they just
stay home and watch the partial eclipse unfold which a lot of
people did. Uh, the last time we had total solar eclipse, a couple people from my job, came
down or went down to where it was when it crossed over here,
Kentucky, Tennessee, which I'm looking, here we go. It crossed down here, which if you notice,
it's a little bit further north, but then again, it came, as we call it, it came this way
and down. And so, we will not have another total solar
eclipse in North America for 21 years. Um I'll send you, I've
sent you an Email about a presenter that would be able to would love to come on Global
Star Party and do a presentation on the eclipse and we can, you know, we'll be able to discuss it but one of the
other places and I don't know if this map's clickable. Um if I don't right down in here, I
guess, near Austin is where you're going to have the star party. Cuz that's where the
crossroads is. But, if you stay north, Point Pele National
Park, if you can get into Canada, this juts out into Lake
Erie, and that's on the center line too, or in at least within the swath of the center line.
So, so if your travel plans include having at least a, a
passport card for Canada, that would be an option if you're
staying north and I'm planning right now to figure out. I've
actually discussed with the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada. That this place which
is getting becoming a Dark Sky Preserve. So you'll see some
photos from there. Not long from now. Um that will that
will be photos that I'm going to take ahead of time, you know, once the sky is clear
from this national park in Canada, if I can get out there and then assess just how
beautiful the place is. It looks like it's a very beautiful place. So, So, other
thing I'm going to do, I'm going to move this and look for
Brian Odom. Is that how you pronounce his name? Uh Brian.
Yeah, Odom. Odom. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So. Be good to have it going. Perfect. So, here's
another it will drop down. Sometimes, I do photography for
events and after that I decided to take a simple iPhone and go
to State Park during the daytime. If you notice these
pictures, we're looking at the Pinebog River. It's a place
that I've imaged before. I'll see if I can slide in a couple
pictures that I've taken from there in the past and compare
what I'm what I'm showing here is sometimes preparation is the
is the absolute key to making sure that a photo that you would like to take of the night
sky that you're able to actually pull it off. And in order to do that and I'm
looking to see if I can find those images. So this was 2022.
I need 2023. Um
April, March. Let's see if this
March of twenty twenty-three because I've been to this lighthouse a lot. Hm. This was
a planned shot over the lighthouse. Uh funny story. I went back to the lighthouse
recently and before taking photos, I cringed in horror as
I realized I didn't have a card for my camera. So, I was not able to take follow-up pictures. So, make sure you
have all of your gear with you and make a checklist or you
might not like the results. Yeah. Because you will be stuck
and you will have nothing but an iPhone to this is Albert
Sleeper. Um one of the things that you look at is this is
Southwest. So, anything that's in the night sky when it gets to that point in the southwest,
six months from the sky looks completely different but it'll
be the same angle. The water will look completely different because this won't be, this is
frozen in time here. It'll be full flowing water. So, I'd be standing in some waves at this
point if I take the shot but it gives me an idea to say, okay, if I want to catch the setting,
sickness region, I can do that from this part of the metropark. I can come in the
day and I'll continue to look. Um I can come in during the day and take pictures that I think
will make great pictures at night. Like along the beach here. This is the opposite of
photos that I've taken from here in the past. And here
in fact is one of those photos that I've taken. So where I'm
taking these pictures I found a way across the Pinnabog River.
This was in the winter and that's the Cygnus region. I found my way across and now the
standing on the sandbar over here and I'm looking down the
river. Center of the the center of the
galaxy rises up. Some of those images that I showed earlier, the galactic center rising,
That happens over the Pentebog River and whether it's happening here or if it's
rolling over here, because the sky will roll to where it
stands up and it and what what
it it's a what it amounts to is it takes a lot of planning to make sure that you have the
type of shot you want. So if you want this part of the galaxy over here you have to
make sure that you're standing at the angle in which you can see it. And if you get it wrong
then you just have to adjust your shot according So, these
are different ideas. Maybe a panorama would work as a night
as the sky is rising. This is a closer look. And then this is
out. The Dark Sky Preserve. This is out where the let's
see. Saginaw Bay meets Lake Huron. And that's facing north. So for ob it's a really great
place but you have to carry your observing equipment all the way out there. Which is not as much fun. There were a
couple of other ideas that I had These two in particular I
thought might make an interesting location but then you have to go through some
woods in order to see it and once again, trying to picture
using a compass, trying to picture what a site might look like if it's at night and it's
full of stars. So, if you imagine the part of Milky Way cutting through there at some
sort of angle. These are the steps that you take in order to
plan In order to plan for future shots. So, when the sky is not
so great or there's smoke in the sky or it's you have a full moon at night with Conal
showing us, you know, his son.
Yeah. Yeah. Conal showing pictures because you know, we see that Robert's here. The
moon is a wonderful object And in fact, think I have a couple
because after yeah, before
Before I did the presentation, You know, I took pictures. You
take pictures during the day in order to get great pictures at
night and that picture I just showed you would be an example
of that. That was These are all the pictures at night And so
here you have, you have this picture
And then there's a close up And there's the Milky Way going
over. So when you you take one picture and it gives you an
idea. Now there's clouds here. But you never give up. You say
okay that would be a great picture. I'm facing you know a certain I'm facing a certain
direction. And then even when you take pictures You take
pictures before and I'm looking for this one, let's see, these
in particular So, this is a picture I've taken. It's been
couple of years. and
So then you take a slightly different angle and it changes not only if there are changes
being made to the area there are changes being made in your
process It also so much drama in that image. Yeah. And it
also compared to the original image you know it's maybe I use
certain a certain style of editing for that one. This
image which the light keeper the style of editing here made
it so that everything was a lot clearer. The light keeper one of the light keepers of the
lighthouse loved it and before we could hang it in the gift shop he just bought it and it's at home with all of his other
images. So I thought that to be a you know I thought that to be
an honor. And I'm a member of the society that takes care of this lighthouse. So that gives
me a little more you know unfettered access to the skies
around here. But during the there's a lot of camping that goes on. So my idea is to make
it a dark sky preserve. Did not you know aren't going to go so
well. And here's the same. So we saw we saw this shot You
know, we continue to work on you know, different angles and
different processing techniques. That's how we grow
and we change our style. We figure out what worked well. This was a reprocess of this
image. So, over here, the colors, there's more saturation. This red light does
really cast its light on the grass like that. But what I did is I said I want to make it a little more natural looking. So I came back and the Aurora is
still visible. The lighthouse is more of a natural color. The
grass is more of a natural color. This is more along the
lines of how it looks. You know natural color of everything.
The sky still has a little bit of an orangish tint. But that from the Fainer parts of the
Aurora that's up here. So
while waiting on the weather to break, you you go back and you reprocess. This is what I was hoping to get. This was taken couple years ago but when I didn't have my card with me, all I could do was just visualize the shot that I
wanted and you know, realizing, well, I wasn't going to get it this time but maybe there would be a next time and as for those shots along The Dark Sky Park
in real quick and I'll turn it back over because I've got some of those Um
Here we are back in the thumb, Upper Peninsula. And then I had taken some daytime shots of that same area. Got a sunset. And then the Dark Sky Lodge and Tavern that's nearby.
And at night. So, if you remember or call the the image I had looking down this river. Well, this was an image taken further to the north where the river starts where it comes in from Saginaw Bay. So, now, the plan is to take this shot from
over here. So, now we have more of the river. We have more of the foliage and we can see what position the galactic center is in. It's standing straight up and and it's getting ready to tip. So, so each image shows
you what a next image would look like. This is part of the
experimentation of doing your night photography of where you want to go to do more night
shots. Um
Planning. Planning is essential if you're going to take good shots or at least take shots that shots that you can be proud of or that can lead to even more you know even more shots. Um
you want to you want to make sure Milky Way is going to be in position. You use things like Spot WX or Astrospheric for cloud forecast, astronomy forecast, the weather might say it's clear, but it could be
clear and smokey, or it could be high clouds in the area. So, all of those affect the type of shot you'll get, And and there's nothing wrong with shooting through smoke or shooting through
slight cloud cover because of the you might get something interesting and unique that you wouldn't get otherwise if the sky was just clear. So so if that's got that'll be my presentation. We'll see. Okay.
What happens? If you didn't learn anything else, there's two things. Try, try, and try and try again with images. Try different angles. And do what you have to to see the eclipse. And if you're looking for a
place to go go down That's right. We we've got a spot for you. That's right. We got a spot for you. So, and the the
chances of clouds down there are far less than the chances of clouds and up here to the
north in the Ohio area. So true. But you you can never plan exactly plan for what the
weather's going to be like for an eclipse. Absolutely. There is something called fractional
cloud patterns and it's averaged over twenty I think like 20 years or something. Yes.
And that's that's the data that we used to determine where we were going to be. Um but but you know eclipses do weird things. They the you know you get this thousand mile an hour moving shadow that's cooling
you know leaving a trail of cool air behind it. And so it's he can do some really bizarre stuff. So. Yes. Anyhow. Absolutely. So. Thank you so much. No problem. Alright.
Okay, so our next speaker is Young Navin Senthil Kumar and Navin and his father as I mentioned earlier met me at the Northeast Astronomy Forum but Navin are you ready to make your presentation? Yeah, I'm
good to go. How was that? So, firstly, I'm going to share my screen.
Sorry about that. I'm having a bit of technical difficulties. It has been an evening of technical difficulty. Yeah. I
guess it's an amazing. My screen shared okay but I've got multiple screens to work with.
So, maybe it helps but hopefully, Navin because yeah, we we've had screens not share
all night. I don't know what's happening. Three-time share, you know, so. Yeah. Well, all
in a. You've done this enough times. You know. Yeah.
Man, my dad's coming. Okay.
Yeah, that's those are the technical difficulties we have when we we present online. We,
everything's working and then all of a sudden, it doesn't. And then it doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't work. Um Yeah,
I screen share by picking a I pick a screen to put all of my
content on. So, that seems to work but There we go. They got
it going. Yeah. I want to alright. You see my screen? I
didn't do a presentation mode. And. Yes, we do. Yup.
I'm just going to go back here I'm just in a presentation.
Alright, here we are. Here we go. So, my talk is going to be today about supermassive luck
holes. And let's get into it. So,
firstly, we need to introduce ourselves to what is a supermassive black hole.
Basically, a supermassive black hole or for sure, it's known as an SMBH or sometimes even an
SBH. Is basically the largest type of black hole with its mass being in on the order of
hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions to billions of times more than the massive the
sun which is pretty impressive. Observation evidence suggests
that almost every single large galaxy has a black hole in the middle. Actually, it's a super
massive black hole. Two supermassive black holes have been directly imaged by the event Horizon Telescope. So one
of them is right here. It's Messier 87. Which many of you are familiar with. Or the
Astrophotography's and in our own Milky Way galaxy we we also have a SMBH which is pretty
impressive. Um and then now we need let's
get into how they work really. Which is the description.
Supermassive black holes. They're basically defined as black holes with a mass above 1 hundred thousand. You want to
go a little bit more mathematical. In scientific notation it's ten to the fifth tower. And this we're going to
call M for short. Cuz we can't just say mass. So some of them
have a massive over several billion M Many supermassive
black holes have physical properties that clearly distinguish them from lower class classifications, lower
mass classifications. Um which is basically smaller like black
holes which are like the normal size black holes. So first thing is that the title forces
in the vicinity of the event horizon are basically significantly weaker. We're
super massive black holes. So for example the title force on a body at the
Horizon is inversely proportional to the square of the black holes mass. Basically, a person at the event horizon of 10 million M Black hole experiences about the same title force between their head and feet as a person on the surface of of the earth.
So it's nothing different. It's like if you have like the same title force on earth, it's like
the same in a supermassive black hole. So it doesn't really make it much more different. Now, let's get into
some history. So, the first thing that happened was, who,
who taught, who figured out Supermaster Blackholes, was beginning with the
investigation by Martin Schmidt of the RadioSource three C two seventy-three, 1963. And if
you, this is Martin Schmidt by the way here. Um, initially, he
thought this was going to be a star, but then the spectrum proved to be puzzling. It was
to be hydrogen emission lines that had been red shifted indicating the object was moving away from the earth. So now hobbles had shown that the object was located several billion light years away. And thus must be admitting the
energy equivalent to of hundreds of galaxies. So super
massive SMBH is they can emit a lot of energy because they're they have a lot going inside of
them. Which will get a bit to actually see what's going inside of him. Um and now we're
going to talk about how they form. The origin of supermassive black holes
remains an active field of research. Many astrophysics agree that black holes can grow
by accretion of matter and merging by other black holes.
There are many hypotheses for the formation mechanisms in initial masses of of the
progenitors or seeds of the supermassive black holes. For
example, many distant and early supermassive black holes such as QSO, Jake, three13, eighteen
oh six, and ULAS, J 1342, plus zero nine two eight, are hard
to explain because they were made so soon after the big vein. Hm. Basically this is the how they combine Um they
firstly, this is the diagram that that's going to describe everything. So, firstly, this this over here is the extra
galaxy jet. And then right here, this disc over here which is orange. It's called the increation disc. And then
inside the accretion disc is the black hole. And then this is the magnetic fuel lines. And
then both of them combined through the magnetic field lines energy. And then the extra galactic jet which caused
them to make you combine. And that make that's why all these supermassive black holes have a
lot more energy. And that and one of them and they're super interesting to actually find
out Now, they also can cause active, have a lot of activity
in galaxy radiation. A lot of gravitation from supermassive black holes in the center of
many galaxies is thought to be thought to power active subjects such as the the safer
galaxy's and quasars. And the relationship between the mass of the central black hole and
the host galaxy depends upon the galaxy type. And empireical correlation between the size of
supermassive black holes and the stellar velocity dispersion of a galaxy bold is called the M six radiation. So over here
basically in the image you could actually see the radiation that's going out from the like in the middle of the black hole. Cuz that's where
the that's what causes all this energy. It needs to somehow get out. So it ends up radiating
most of the energy. As it goes.
Now we we need to prove ourselves with some evidence. So, one of the, some of the best evidence for the presence
of black holes is basically provided by the doppler effect which is it's pretty familiar
whereby light from nearby orbiting matter is red shifted. One, receding and blue shifted
when advancing. For matter, very close to a black hole in the orbital speed must be
comparable to the speed of light. So, basically, receding matter will will appear very
faint compared with the dancing matter which means at systems would intrinsically symmetric
discs and rings will acquire highly asymmetric visual appearance. So, over here, this
image shows the doppler factor in action right now. So, the on the left side, you can see it's
the moving observer. On the right side, it's the moving source. And we see the key. The
green over here in the left is the real position. And over here in the right it's the
parent position and the arrow indicates the direction of the light poles. A over here shows
the light poles going to basically on this direction.
Which is the blue and this technically advancing and then
over here, the light pulse is going the same direction and it's going in a circular motion
over here as you see because that's where the circles are for. And then for B over here,
basically, the light source is pointing directly upwards.
These going this way And it's not really in a circular motion. Um B over here. On
shows in circular motion and it's showing that this goes up.
But it doesn't really have a circular motion over here for the energy.
Conclusion astronomers and scientists are still trying to find more information about these supermassive black holes.
But for now, this is all we know about S and BH black holes. Thank you. That's all.
Thank you, Natalie. Uh, what do you find, I mean, what what and
no pun intended. What drew you to give a presentation about
Black Halls. Is it like, is it one of your favorite types of objects to talk about? Is it
kind of stretch your mind to think about how black hole works? What what is it that you
find so intriguing? Something that I find super intriguing is actually how much energy they
have inside of them because one of the black holes they caused an eruption I forgot. Which one
exactly it was? But it was an SMBH that caused one of the most energetic star explosion
star explosion you know about a long time and that released the
most energy. Now since the Big Bing. And that was recently when 2020 when scientists found
out. So there one of the most interesting things about these is their the amount of energy
they have in their mass. Yeah. So yeah. They're very strange
aren't they? You know when I was when I was your age I mean the idea of black holes was
still very much just I mean there were people that were
fairly confirmed you know that these things must exist but there was a lot of us that
still had the idea that well maybe this is just
you know still just kind of not fantasy but stuff, you know,
that that is so far out there that, you know, we can't understand it and we and maybe
doesn't exist at all. So, that that was that was kind of the
you know, the feeling about it. I think amongst the general public and then, finally, seeing an image of a black hole
was really really amazing and I think that that, you know, I I'm I feel lucky to be alive to
see stuff like that. You know, so. Um It's something that you'll always have as you go
forward. I can hardly imagine you know, your your own experiences when you turn 60
and 70 years old and what you'll you'll have experienced in astronomy. So, keep up the
good work, Natalie. You're doing a great job. Thank you. Thanks for having me on the show, Gin. Okay, thank you.
Okay. Uh up next is Robert Reeves, Robert has been
involved in amateur astronomy for a long time. He has written books on astrophotography Um he
is a you know, an organizer of the Texas Star Party. Um but
his latest passion maybe for not just latest but I think he's been interested in the
moon for quite a long time. He's one of the most expert
people I know about the moon and it's always fascinating to hear his presentations. So, I'm
going to let you take it away. Thanks. Okay, can you hear me okay? Yup. Good. Well, that
part's working. Uh of course, the next thing up is the weekly
exercise where we see Robert embarrassing himself by not being able to share a screen.
Don't worry. You you're being great company this week. Okay? We have so many glitches in in
presentations and stuff but it's okay. Well, well, we'll we'll muddle our way through.
Uh you know, of course, you know, I've called the title of my presentation Postcards from
the Moon. So, I inspired myself and I have actually made real post carts. Oh, there you go.
From the moon. That people can can mail. So, just a little fun
thing I've been tinkering with. Other than that, order those, Robert? Uh well, I haven't
gotten that far yet. Uh. Oh. Uh eventually, I'll I'll when I
get caught up with a million other things I'm doing. I'll I'll post it on Facebook on my regular Facebook page. Hey, you
know, if you want these things, you know, drop me a personal message. I'll send you a package. So, just one of the
many things that I'm overwhelming myself with nowadays. Um but as you said
the moon has been my passion since I cannot remember when. Um to to date my lunar activity
I would I was observing the moon before we knew it the far side of the moon looked like.
Before nineteen fifty-nine when the first first moon probe
Russian moon probe photographed the backside of the moon and gave us a clue that the backside of the moon was not at
all. Like the front side. But let's do the screen share and
see if I can make this work Are you seeing my title slide? The
Postcards. Perfect. Look at that. And just for funs it does
not advance. Oh, here we go again, folks. Me, back out of
this somehow. How do I get out of here? Come on, nothing is
working now. I a ay. Why me?
Okay. It escape There it goes. Okay. Let's try this again.
We're still seeing your postcards from the moon title slide. Okay. Did it advance to
the next one? No. It did not? It did not. You can unshare.
And share again and then find
that find that dialogue box. You know, they can see the different dialogue boxes you can share. If you have a lot of
stuff up, it can get confusing. So, you want to just have
the presentation part of it. Let's see what you got here. Okay. Now, I see thumbnails.
Thumbnails, okay. Not not what I am seeing.
Go back. Yeah, just go back again. I'm back to my basic
My title, bringing up the title again and trying to advance
I can see it advancing on mine. Is it advancing online? No. No. Hm. So, I unshare again. Okay.
Yeah, you're just, I think you're just choosing the wrong dialogue box. Okay, go back to
share screen. Willers, each time I do it, there's one more
of these title screens showing up in addition to my my
thumbnails that I pick from Uh
Cher. Oh well. Maybe I'm not licking Cher. Okay, we're back
to the thumbnails. Thumbnails? Yes, sir. This is going to be
the death of me. You are scaring. You share.
I think the the silliness of this may encourage me to stop
trying to do this because there's something clearly different. Something is not
right with my own computer. It doesn't work like other people's And when I tried to
bring make things happen it does not happen like it is. Well now it's not even there.
Okay. What what what do I need to do here?
Is okay what what are you saying now? Fill the thumbnails.
Op share. Go back to my ugly face again And bring up screen
share one more time before I just pull the plug on this and say something is not happening
right? I'm not sure which one. Do you have other windows open
that are instances of you bringing things up full screen?
Um like if you do you know, alt
tab and kind of go through and see what's open on your PC.
Just just the thumbnail screen. Just the thumbnail. Okay. And
now I've lost the zoom. Oh. I am about to give up on this.
This is defeating me.
You know what, Scott? I may not be smart enough to do this. I may be able to navigate to the
moon and back. If you would like. If you would like, you
could Email your shots to me. I'll throw em into a PowerPoint and I could advance through
them for you. We we may have to do that next week. Okay. Okay. Um I I I am clueless why I
cannot properly zoom. I mean, every time I try to zoom, it's
it's it's like pulling hens teeth. So, I apologize. In fact, I've lost the Zoom screen
too. I I can't figure out how to get back to where it's not showing up anywhere. Okay, let
me let me kill this. Oh, there it is. Okay.
Okay. I'm going to minimize that. Get rid of this.
Okay. Now, let's go back Hello
Okay. One last shot. Do you see my titles title slide? No, I
just see a Okay, Scott. We're going to go to plan B. Yeah, I will Email you the slides ahead
of time and I apologize for making a mark out of this. I just, this is, this is
baffling, man. No problem. So, We're going to fix it out. Alrighty. Sorry about that.
Robert, thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Alrighty. Buh bye. Buh bye. Okay. Um
Well, it's been it's been a night of some technical difficulties but we will will
zoom over down under to Argentina once again to Cesar
Brollo. Cesar, how are you man? Hi, Eskot. How are you? It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure and
enjoy and with with you guys
this night, thanks for the audience to watch us Yes. It's
a pleasure, it's a pleasure every every Thursday that where
we we enjoy together eh with leeches, with a lot of
information, you know, it's normal, it's part of the family, when I say okay, you have pleasure to share the the
well, the, the PowerPoint, you know the, I will be completely trans Karen. I I remember
putting together a whole program for Global Star Party. It's a a live program. Oh, I
could not make it work. I could not make it work. I couldn't get the broadcasting to work and so I had to cancel the
whole thing right in the middle and so, anyways, totally understand. So, yes,
absolutely, absolutely. And well,
today, tonight, inside, I'm not in the balcony because we have a rainy night, my idea to share
something live, eh is impossible tonight, and but eh
talking about ehm you know, the, the idea of, tonight about
how, about, how,
as we are made of of what what particular materials well I have a presentation with the image that I took of the sky from my balcony and I can share with the audience
my presentation Well, tell me if you are watching the presentation now. Yes. Uh huh.
Okay. Yes. We are lucky. Okay. Well, a camera star scene from
Southern Sky from a city balcony. It's my my young bar
is a balcony. I live in apartment and I have a a the
place that from every every night, I that we share what the
the sky is clear. I share with you, with the values, and the
sky. Um tonight, I took the idea to to talk about
DY DY groups that we call it
the Ruby, the Ruby, two, because it's it's one of their
the red that the world exist in English the the most rare
deeply rare star in the sky and it's a carbon star. Hm. Is very
very near to Verta Crucis DY DY
Cruz, it's a, a magnitude, a star of A. 3, I don't remember
exactly, but this over A, and it's a star that is not easy
to, to, ah to see to watch ah
to the naked eyes but very impossible maybe in the city, you know, do you have the, the
bride of, of Beta, Cruises, and
when you, when you have eh, so near, so big star, maybe you
have a, a situation for the naked eye, maybe use a lot of,
you know, you know that Scott that, that when you use a lot
of magnification, the things may be in maybe, ehm, before,
after, sorry, after, make this presentation, like this, the idea to, to talk, about this
star, I figure eh, when the, the guys return to, to be
clear, ehm, try to see to the naked eyes. Maybe with the RC
of 8 inches, and make a better
picture of narrow field because
tonight I'll I'll show you why Phil pictures but where you can
see perfectly the the the red carbon stuff. Well, First of all, the axis of the idea of
tonight it's the components and
our body and why we are made of
stars and of course that I choose Carbon, to Parenting, to
connect, to connect this this
star will our molecules of carbon in our body where we
have in a in a meat fat you know, everywhere, Carbon is a a
huge part of our eh composition. Well, the first
thing that I can show you is that is, you know, because I
show a lot of time, a, a picture with idea, that have an
idea of my field of view to the south and south west here in
Argentina, Argentina, in Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires is at
thirty-five, south degrees latitude, is to to the people
of for example in in USA. If you live in Atlanta, Georgia,
do you have the same, the same latitude? It's a place not not
so cold, not so warm, you know? As well, it's warming in
summer, of course. Uh, not so cold in winter, And in the
subway, first we have eh, the southern cross practically our
in over your head near to the semi. Well, this is my feel of
view. Let me know if if you can see the stars, because sometimes we, if, in the first
time the image is is empty of a star, you know, because the the
internet was mission. Mhm. But here do you have the southern
cross here? I see. Alpha and
Veda Centauri. Here maybe maybe you can eh see very finely eh
in this area here you have to open cluster that we call
pleasure del Sur or Southern Playaves and well this is the
first eh picture that I put in the presentation is the near
sensation that you have if you see the stars in a clear night here in in my home in Buenos
Aires in my balcony, from my balcony, from my backyard. And
here for the first situation, do you have the idea of the sky? How many stars? Maybe you
can see less star that that this, but you can see at naked
eyes, this one, this one, maybe this, this, the southern cross, and maybe in this area of
Bella, you can see Karin and Bella, you see sometimes in very clear sky in clear sky, we
low humid in summer maybe, you can see the same sky. Well,
This here we have eh in a in a night where we have eh more exposition, we have clouds
I hear I you can see a much better southern cross. You can
see it eh Karina Nebula here with more more ah how do you
say? Well ah it it's more easy to to to see comprising the
another stars in Carina and Veda. And clouds that are going
from the from the east to the west In this picture. Well,
this is in a clear night where I put around 100 millimeters
reflex camera. This is the field that you you you can see now
where do you have a southern cross here do you have the devil box cluster here do you
have the southern players and in this maybe let me well in
this part maybe here do you have the Eta Carina Nebula that
is outside the the picture but you can start to see different
colors of the stars and this is
the start that we are going to to watch and concern more where
is because it's okay Well, here
you can see around the the the
field view of 30 millimeters with an APS sensor of a reflex
camera where do you have
image of his cross you can see the, the carbon sock here,
Cos sorry well we say Rochero
open Leicester and we are going to change the position Southern
Cross to start to go to this area. Here, you can see now a
better, a better difference between the red stars and the blue ones.
I'm here now is the carbon star.
Now I am using over over a five, it's a field view of ah
five millimeters, five, 500, sorry, millimeters ah where you have shovel box, beta, beta
cruises, and this one, maybe you can see the the red star.
This star is very interesting because it's if you compare for example eh with another stars
you know or to explain to the audience to to talk about how
astronomers eh take the measure of colors of star to make to take a number. Eh they use they
use a eh magnitude. The the same magnitude that you say for
example this star, for example, I don't remember now but it's Beta Cruz is maybe six or or
less or three or four completely but the star ehm you
can say about the color taking
two different filters, blue for B minor, the large B the ah
visible B between green and yellow. The number eh of for
example if you have, if, if you need to, you put the star with
the, you see, with the blue filter, okay? And you take the
number of the magnitude for blue, if you, if, for, for example, if you, something is
real, through the, the blue filter is transmitting really
small number, if it starts small number, no, sorry, small
line, but small line in magnitude is a bigger number, okay? It's opposite for the
people, well, okay, we are all eh, amateur astronomers or
astronomers, and, but, ehm, the higher number, for, for, eh,
magnitude are less bright, okay? And for example, when
you, when you, have numbers. Here I have a a table. Where do
you have here is the is the example that I talk about how
they the astronomy take the measures of of of eh colors to
say ah to take a number ah of magnitude of bright in this
situation where you have a blue filter minus a a visibility
maybe I I think that this 5fifty nanometers, what is
where our retina have the best sensibility to this, to this
color, and they took the magnitude for blue filter and
the magnitude for visible filter, and you have a number where do you have this class
of, of stars, normal stars, blue stars, do you have
Normally, minus zero, three, three, zero point3, and you can
see how star in the red ones, because the
The number of the magnitude with the blue seat filter decrease a lot. But if you
compare the typical red stars like better juice or ehm
antaris or maybe start from the that you say okay they are red.
But the number that normally you can you can ehm can found
is one point40, you know, one,
one, 50, one point seventy. But, look that, the ehm, I, I
hear, I put, but DY crews, surpass all this, a normal red
star, does not go beyond
one B minus B ah plus one point
ah point five while the values of this ruby star is five point
fifty-six It's completely outside the box. Is it very interesting? Of course it is a
carbon star but it's a huge how do you say? The component is so big that that eh really is a a
a very very different star in the sky. And well eh of course
that all of this I am not astronomy and ever ever for me
eh is about my curiosity and my my ideas incorrect to the
people to make this same eh search of for information
something that was great that when I put eh when I start to
search information in about eh the white cruises. I can't get
nothing from Wikipedia for for eh and say what well anybody
write something about this? And searching I found a a
blog spot of a friend that this is a great physics and he eh
make an article very very interesting about DY cruises.
Ah many many ah ah amateur astronomers eh like Gusbalan or
eh Martinte Lechella today we are we was talking eh before
the show about ehm about eh DY
Cross Cruises the Ruby and this is very interesting because when you have an star so out of
the box Um do you have something very interesting to
show to the people, to the kids, you know, that every every time we are talking about
this and and things that today
are not so, how do you say? Are not so eh commons in the sky
and it's something that you can show to the people when you
make a, you know, you make investigation, you know, a
research back and common research in Wikipedia, with your pictures, you can take your own pictures of this, like
I took take the pictures from, from the city, with a small telescope or sorry, only refix
camera, and you have the possibilities to, to learn about something different, and
you have a lot, of course, that, this is my first step to, to start to know about this
star, and something was that was great talking about stuff
that is totally outside the box is about this showing Herschel
eh a much ehm fifteen March 2thousand eighteen thirty-four
comes with Cape Sweep sorry ah and look if you read eh the the
how do you say? The impression when him eh with when sorry
when John Herzel discovered this star watching at at eh
watching at eh in the in the dark sky of course at the at the Nike he described this star
as like a real the most bread Um deepest manor that he his
watch and this connection, this connection of the intense thing
where I say come on, this is different. Why this is and you can say the most important
thing, why? How? And I I think
that for example, he did try, it is like a drop of blue, one contrasted with the weakness,
the white of Beta Crucis. Sorry with the English because it's.
Ah it's fine. It's fine. But but if not you can read. Cesar
it seems like you know in studying Red Stars it's almost like someone that's that a
gemologist. It's very interested in rubies you know. As well. Yes. The most deep
red, you know, the most because they are they are jewel like. You know. Yes. Very much like
jewels. Absolutely absolutely and something that is incredible is eh tonight eh
where we are talking about this and ah we are talking about eh I choose Carlon because I I I
thought eh in in the picture that I took of of the balcony
ehm I remember that we eh I made a presentation ah connected with ah my friend eh
eh Pedro Sais are and we try with different filters how you,
when you took the blue one, practically, practically,
disappear, the, the star, and it's very interesting and have a lot of things to make a
difference eh experiments, and especially for, for kids, or,
you know, eh, it's very easy, very affordable to, to see in
the sky, eh, is a star that here we can see the the entire
year and, you know, it's a, and this is my, my presentation for, for Zunai,
it's about carbon, our body, we are made of stars, and if you
if you like to to learn more
here I I can take I can give you a this or I can I can copy
the links. This is the blog spot of is in Spanish. He he
work he made a a beautiful article and was very very
helpful for me and I now I will
send you if you like and you put the the links by the chat
of our Zoom if you if you agree
Scott. Why don't you send that over to me and I will yeah because yes I'm not a
specialist the idea of this is not as an okay you know I talk about Karen Stars no I don't have the idea is that the
people make the same. Take this way or to make astronomy from his backyard, from the idea is
take the the experiment, the idea, the the the film, the the
the things about starts out of the box, difference or how we
can eh sense this about pictures, my idea well, is is
how I can see from the city, maybe the darkest sky, who is
the, the sensation of this star between a very, very, very near to a, a big white star, you
know, maybe to feel the same than John Herschel. Yes. Yes.
Okay, it's called it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Hi, John. Hi, good to
see you. I was, I wanted to say, you know, it must be hard when you level your scopes out
in the dark sky sight because you're so used to using buildings to eyeball the level
you know? Yes. But yes. I use that sometimes, that trick. Um,
when I'm, you know, doing construction, I have to level something and I didn't have a level. So, I use buildings or
telephone poles. In the background because they are level. So. Yes. It's kind of a
cool trick. It's it's part of our landscape. It's part of our
our you know, and it's great. Um I eh I encourage a lot of
people that live in big cities to use the telescope and take everyday, every clear scar sky
when it's possible. Appoint your telescope and join and you
know, well, John, you may find this, yes, the moon and the sun
are always out and when it's cloudy, you can get the moon peeking through. Um, sometimes
and so I've been doing a lot of those here where I live. It's it's been cloudy for but it's
very nice. Very cool and Absolutely. I I last Sunday at
night, normally we we with friends, we read with bikes in
area that is near from here and some areas we have like of
forest, you know, but it's Palermo. Yeah, it's Palermo. It's a it isn't the city? Is it
like a central, small central park in the city? It's a only four blocks from here. It's
very nice to to take a right way, ride a bike, sort of ride bike, and eh less sun, last
Sunday, we found that the the shadow of the moon that you you
forget in the city this possibilities and you know in parts where the lights eh the
lights was out of service of the of the role Uh it's really a safer place of course. No
problem. But we see the shallow
moon and something that come out when we forget this, when we lost this and it's and you
are making a small part of astronomy and enjoying this, you know, well, thank you
everyone. Great to see you. Ah, it's a pleasure. Thank you so
much. Alright. Okay, John. Hello, everybody. You are. I'm
I'm in the stars. I'm out in the stars tonight. That's right. Let me show you here. Yeah, that's Beautiful. Yep.
I'm getting some blue light. I hope that Quazar didn't blow.
But maybe Beetlejuice will go. And we'll be okay. That's right. You know it. It should
be spectacular. I didn't realize how close it was. Um but it's actually relatively
close by comparison. You know. It's Alpha Centari is probably
the closest but you know we'll we should be alright. God willing. God willing. So how's
everybody doing tonight? Everybody's fine. We we had it was a night kind of fraught
with some technical difficulties but we got through it. We had some great presentations of course, you
know, and It's you know, I think that I
think our astronomers you know, gave our audience a very wide
range of subjects to think about everything from red stars to you know, the dusty hand
galaxy. You know, I'd never seen that. I'd never seen photographs of that thing before. So, it was that was
beautiful. Um David Levy's beautiful new addition to his
poem about his about his wife dedicated to his wife. Beautiful. Uh yes you know,
learning about the Adirondack you know, astronomy Retreat and
Mm hmm. Um you know, and and Maxi, you know, punching his
way through the the internet, you know, as it was kind of giving him fits and starts and
he did finally was able to finish to show up beautiful processing job on on a nebula
that he was working on. So, but our audience that we got a
worldwide audience right now and Awesome. And you got the stage, John. I'm I'm so happy
and thankful for all of you to watch this with us because every week, it gives me the
ability to have to create work for presentation and you know, it's cloudy so we can't really
do any star parties or public outreach. So, this this is actually the platform for me
now. I'm getting used to it. It's sure a lot easier on your back, you know, not having to
carry all those instruments. Right. And packed for the the long haul but you know, you
gotta get out. When you got an opportunity to see a clear, dark sky with a little
altitude, you will not believe what you can see and even in the city, like I said, the
moon, you know, Jupiter, the planets, Venus is still looking really good. A lot of the
clusters, M thirty-six, 3-seven, you know, Cassiopea
has a treasure trove, those beautiful. Oh, yeah. Uh, clusters and we're at a perfect
time right now. With springtime galaxy season upon us. Yeah.
It's it's incredible. And then if you stay up all night, you might even make it to winter. But. Right. Pace yourself.
That's always interesting to to stay up all night and like the three or four o'clock in the morning to start to see some
accompaniment. Yeah. Season of stars, you know? It's like, wow, okay. This is cool. That
that first inkling of daylight is depressing because you know,
you know. You have to lie. You have to start going for targets that are more visible. So, the
last time we were at Pinehouse, we we chased it in the daylight and it was just getting light.
It was still a little blue, dark sky And I go, I gotta try this filter So, I used that new
0 3 filter. Yeah. You know, after Lumicon and I gotta tell you, we we pulled it in. We
were looking at the Rosette Nebula and it was light out. Yeah, sure. So, that was so big in the sky. Yeah. I mean. You
really have to scan your telescope around to really appreciate the whole thing. And then, you know, you fade to
Globular clusters. Mm hmm. And then planets and then you're done. Pretty much. Toast.
Unless you do solar, which they always make me do. I can't say no. You know, I had enough
No, I mean. So, John, you know, you've been up all night. Uh
stargazing and you see the sun come up. What do you do? You make yourself take a nap and then you. Oh, no, no, no, no.
We chase the planets because the best time to look at the planets or the moon is like
right after sunset or sunrise when it's just acclimates, you
get this like little bit of a seeing
it's perfect and you have color. No. Like colors that you see that you don't normally see. And I remember we chased the planets. It was an amazing night. I was looking at Mars
with probably 800 to a 000 power with my vinyl viewers.
Mhm. And you know with that kind of power it it it's really
steady and tranquil. But when it snapped in micro seconds I could see craters. And I could
actually see that the ice cap was like Swiss cheese. It had
holes where it had been evaporated and it was actually looked like a like a you know
an iceberg or a glacier from it was mind blowing. Yeah. And man
that is the best time to look at it. And then of course once the heat started to come, it it
it pretty much turned into a mushy situation. Sure. Sure. But you know, we we stay up and
you try to sleep but you're so excited and then, of course, I have my little buddy and he's
ready to go. And I'm not. So I have to stay with him. So, it it it's a lot. Coffee is my
friend. Coffee is your pal. That's right. Cat naps. Cat naps, I call em, you know.
Right. You can close your eyes for a couple of minutes, 20 minutes, half hour, you're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
right. And then when you get home, you know what happens. Thank God, I have a wonderful wife that, that allows me to
coma, that's what happens. Yeah, you just, I'm crippled. It's like, it's coming home from the hospital. If you just
gotta recover. Yeah. I I. It is
crazy. Understanding spouse. That's for sure. Yeah. Okay. So, I'll start it out. Um.
Okay. I don't have much stars because we've been clouded out pretty much and It's been a
hearing from the friends that are watching from California. So, but I've been busy because
any moment that the moon pops out, I'm ready. And the other
night, it cleared. It was an amazing night but there was this thin, high cloud layer with some haze and and it was
real humid in the marine layer was, you know, it's been out there every day almost. It
didn't quite come in but it definitely caused this diffused glow with the wispy clouds and
it kind of, you know, trying to capture the illumination effects in the clouds going
over the moon. It's it's a different you know, it's it's hard to kind of capture what
god makes look so easy. You know, you look through the clouds and the way they glow
and you try to paint that and it it just takes time. And finally. but let me get
started. Artists have always tried to have that where they could create the kind of the glow from within. you know. Oh,
yeah. I mean, you know, and I hate to say it with airbrush was a great way to do that but
with this digital platform and now, you know, everything's Zoom and it's you have to do
this. This is the the way of the future. I mean. Sure. Nobody's reading the paper.
They're using their cellphone, you know? So gotta go with it. So, I mean. In that respect, I
think people read more than they ever did. You know. Sure. I mean. There's so much more to read, you know, but It's a lot
easier. Let's get that reading. I don't know. You know, so. The Ebooks, you know, they're to read some very, you know,
amazing stuff where you can choose to read junk, you know, so. Did, did Gabriel come on
tonight? Uh or Adrian? Neither nor? Adrian did it. Sure. I
missed him. Well, let me get started Okay. Alright. So this
is my barrage of images.
I've actually getting a little better. I hope no technical
difficulties plague me tonight. Now that video has been giving me a lot of trouble. Um because
again I thought I was home free and I wasn't. But I think I have. The best thing to do with
video anyways is to give it to me. Okay. Try to broadcast it up to me and I try to broadcast
it back out to them. It will choke. You know so. Oh. Yep. So
it's it's better if if I if you say hey Scott run that video. You know and I can. Well I think I can
it. Unfortunately, it'll have to be off my drive my Google Drive, but I I figured that much out, you know. Okay. So, this is Wow. I was looking at our son. This is a guy that
does photography, solar work. He's not, you know, Gary Palmer is amazing. But this guy gave me a shot. He goes, check this shot out I got. It looked like a heart, you know? Yeah. At
first. But, you know, I went in and and painted this from his photograph. So, I have the
convection. You can, it looks like it's boiling. Those little cells outside of the actual sun
spot. Mm hmm. And then you see that flare coming out of the middle Uh right out of the
middle of that thing. Yeah. And I think that's like where the magnetism is connected. So, the
plasma funnels up that magnetic line field line and you know,
the scale of this thing, that it's bigger than the Earth, probably the sunspot. It's,
it's hard to imagine, but what amazing thing stars are and how
they're formed, and the life of a star, and the death, and it's just a cycle, you know, it
creates more stuff, more planets, more gas clouds, more
asteroids, rocks, even white dwarfs, and also created us. You know, the elements that the
stars have in them is basically everything has in the universe,
you know? I don't know about dark matter but. It's gotta be everything. Yeah. It's gotta be
everything. This was a eclipse partial annular. I forget which
one. It was a few years back. That was beyond picture. Uh this is my picture. Uh that I
did with my granddaughter that night I showed you when she was out looking through my nine and
a quarter. That was the night of
one of the nights we looked at it and she was amazed. She kept saying, the moon is on fire. I go, no, no. It's just the earth's atmosphere. You know, kind of like when the sun rises
in the morning, you see that real red or at night. It's very similar because you're looking through probably twice as much
atmosphere which has a lot of particulate and you know, humidity and different stuff in
there. So, it it changes it.
This was another view, modern view. See the barbed wire fence? That was that was up
there by McCoy Mountain. You see me. I just wanted to do something a little different. I
think I I went a little too crazy on the simplicity of the
moon. Uh but it's a kind of a cool work up mock up. Yeah. Uh I like to do different styles.
This was the one I was trying to capture when it came out the other night. So it was you know
very very diffused. Kind of you know
masqueraded behind a haze of clouds And I was trying to capture that essence and that's okay. I mean I'm not 100% pleased but it's not bad.
This one was cool because I just looked outside for a second and and there was a huge
sucker hole. So I go I gotta get do something because I have to have something ready. And
and I was painting this on my phone actually. I started. And
then the clouds came in and like killed me. So I had it like you know basically the
three quarters of the moon pretty good and then that other part I just I couldn't finish it because I couldn't really
see it. Plus the clouds were covering it. So again is trying to you know get the feel and
the look of of the moon ascending the clouds What's the
title. This another one. This was you know what? I want to
tell you. And and you know you gotta listen here. This telescope that you got me. So I
used it for my lunar and planetary work. So here's an example of the kind of detail
that I'm getting with that six inch triplet. You know I don't know what I like better
actually looking at the telescope because it's so gorgeous. And I polish it with
carnauba. So I can see myself you know inside. Then I then I know real. It's mine. I know
it's real. It's one of my favorites but Thank you, man. You know, I was looking at the moon a few months back another
night and and it was amazing but just take a look at this
simplification of my technique. I I really like this. Look at the bottom. Isn't that cool?
How the craters are just soft and subtle but. Oh, yeah. We have depths to them.
I mean, you know, on a good night, all scopes will show this, but, you know, having big
telescopes, it's great, but when you drop, you have drawn all of this. Well, you know, I
went to college to learn how to do this. So, I have a a very large skill set to be able to
do this. Um, you know, digitally, it's really a lot more easy, because you have so
many more features, you can go backwards. You know, back day. It was sitting at an opaque
projector for maybe a couple hours to try to get capture all those and then you have to
stencil out everything to get it perfect. You know, to because in nature, lines are
pretty much perfect, you know, smooth. I mean, there, of course, there's exceptions but
you know, when I was taught to do realistic pictures, you want to have nice, straight lines and uniform, everything,
you know, stencil. Shading. You know, then, you just fill it in. It's like a contour
drawing. The first paintings I ever got were those like oil painting kits with the airplane
in the clouds and you would paint by number. Right. And I think that's kind of what
affected me. You know, here I'm trying to capture the Earth trying I was getting. Plus, there was some haze in there
too. But I mean, I love that telescope. It to me is is my
lunar sco my solar scope. Uh even with clusters and the
veil. Even M51 I could see with it really good. So the the
scope you use the most is probably the best scope. So one that you can bring out
relatively easy that has you know amazing optics and it functions really well thermally
with the carbon fiber. It's helped me help me a lot get some incredible images.
Here's another one. This was one night my son goes to me.
Dad. Dad you gotta go outside and look at the moon. And it almost looked like a hand with
a pearl. You know. And the clouds. And again I'm I'm moving quick because you know
these things change. So the clouds were pretty easy to get and and the basic you know
layout. And then later I go in with my digital tools and
create the glow and you know diffuse the background a little, highlight some of the clouding and just paint it in.
You know, painting clouds is pretty easy once you learn. You just have to practice and and
there really isn't much to it. It's just the style and the more you do it, the easier it
gets and I love clouds. I love clouds because you know, the
galactic cloud of our Milky Way. Yes. And then, of course, the clouds and galaxies and you
know, big molecular hydrogen gas clouds that spawn all these beautiful stars and solar
systems like in Orion. There are so many baby stars being
born And with the big telescopes, the hubble, and James Webb. You can see those
bach globules where it's actually like an umbilical cord of gas feeding off the mother
cloud. The baby star when the baby has just enough it kind of
burps up and then burns off the tip and that's why our solar
system's here because it burns the material away and you know, the gases will spiral into
gasiest giant planets like Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn, and the rocky planets
and the asteroid belt and comets and everything else, you know, is the leftover remnants.
So, they're good. They're bad. You know, they kill you but we need them. Another night, naked
eye. I just couldn't sleep so I got up to like four, 330. I had
to get up at four anyway and a Ryga was setting but these clouds were there and Mars, you
know, this is this year when it was closer. That's right. And it had an amazing glow to it
and so, it's Mars and Ariga. These three stars, you see, are the constell and if you would
draw go right through the middle of the two stars with Mars upward to the right, you
would go through M thirty6, 3-seven, and thirty-eight, I believe. It might, it might be
actually the other side the bottom. So, I think one of those stars, Castor, perhaps,
cool view though, you know, you just look outside. Again, cloud paintings. It's really easy to
paint clouds once you practice You know, and lately, it seems
like there's been a ton of clouds. I don't know. We've had a lot. This was Keith Crater. I
didn't crop that too well. Um this is actual volcanic cinder
cone right near Keith And so you know at one point the moon
was very active. Probably early on before it you know just died
out. There's no atmosphere and I'm not sure. They may still have some kind of activity or
earthquake activity because I know they measure those quakes and it rings like a bell, I
guess. I suppose, yes. This is another one I I really love
this one. Um so, this is a nice open cluster for everybody if you want to see a something
real nice and you know, the planetary is a little tougher. You gotta use a filter to get
it or be at a dark site or in my case, I have the aperture where doesn't matter I'm at,
I'm going to be able to see it but not as good as when you get out to a dark sight and
usually, you don't see much color in it because your eye doesn't really see that kind of color. They just appear to be
more grayish, kind of like the stars. So, these stars, every star, I had to, you know, make
a rough diagram of a magnitude, not a correct magnitude, just,
you know, shading magnitude from light to dark and then, size. So, so I was able come
back and then try to, you know, put it back together like it actually looked in the eyepiece
and this was tough. This was a tough one to get done right, you know, but that that's what
it looks like for Mount Pynos with the NPB filter. And I
think we are using one of your 100 degree IP or 98 degree IP
since Jerry loan me. Amazingly sharp and very comfortable eye relief. And these are the kind
of views you can see when you're looking through those big telescopes. Or even a a little scope will show you a
beautiful cluster and and you'll see that little donut right in there with the filter.
It's amazing. This was another Orion. Theta
one Orionus. It's basically the trapezium area. And so I tried
to capture the glow. Again it it's pretty hard. To get it
right. But another cool, you know,
I've done about 500 versions of it by now. This is another, when I do 'em, I like to work
up two, three, four, sometimes to have a, you know, stock of
different versions because sometimes, you go too far or you just, you know, don't like
it so you delete it 'cuz you get mad like I do sometimes when I spent hours on it. It
just, I just like, I'm getting rid of it and I always, before I learn how to use this stuff,
I would accidentally delete 'em after I mean, one time I did, I
had to paint the scarf. I think it was the swan. Mm hmm. The swan nebula. I I should go back
to that tonight. Just show you. That thing, I had it so good.
Like, it it looked exactly and I clicked the wrong button by
accident because I was working on my phone and gone. Gone. I
yelled. I used to yell and then now I go, John. John, it's practice. Practice makes
perfect. That's right. That's right. You know, all it is. It's like even doing astronomy you know, it's the same I When
it disappears, learning to let go. Mm hmm. Like when you lose your cellphone. So, that
happened to me. Yeah. And the first time I I almost died from
stress, from, you know, just having a conniption and I got it back and then the second
time I told myself, you know, I'm just going to let it go. Yeah. And I, it didn't get me.
Thank god, I was in my lunch pill. That's can't leave it You
know, these are fun too when I walk my dog. It's a little sketch. You know, I used my
cellphone for a reference but this is all, it's a crow. These
crows always follow us when we're walking probably because
they don't like my dog but it was just sitting up there in that rainbow halo was up there.
I thought it was a cool shot. Pretty neat. A lot of crows out
here. Okay. So, that's it for that. Now, maybe I should try.
Let's see if I can do this. Now, I'm going to try to play
my video. So, I go to iCloud Drive. Actually, I'm going to
have to go a different way.
Man, I wish I could've seen some of those earlier. I always watched them afterwards. I was
again every day so busy. Oh, yeah. That's great. That's the great thing about having them.
Uh. Here it is. On social media like that. So. So, I'm not sure how to get it full screen and
it may look small. You can see it. Just Butte. You don't see
the flower? No That is crazy.
No, it's been happening all night. Yeah, because, you know what, it should play right now.
Can you hear the music? Early. I heard like a little jingle. Yeah, this is depressing. I
gotta figure this out. I thought I was home free, man. Okay. So, guess that's not
going to work. So, let's just go back to some pictures. My
apologies. You know what's funny is that it worked? It works. It's been a night for
this. It it works when it's here at home. Uh. And and I do
the pre-runs. It plays but there's something going on with
the Zoom. Which I'm not quite sure it is.
But these things happen. So we'll just go back to some photos. I've got a a quite a
selection of photos I can show you.
I can get get to some of the flowers maybe. That really
frustrates me that that I can't show you that. That is
depressing. Has anybody so I have to send
that to you, right? Is the idea If I send it. Video, yeah, you
send it to me. Okay. Well, here's the shots. This is a
Hubble. These were Hubble. I was looking at Hubbleshots today for perhaps a background.
Um This mouse is very sensitive. I
like it though.
It's got very smooth action. Mm hmm. And of course, I don't have the those other pictures
here because I put them in that file that beautiful file that I
cannot play. As you've seen if I had this
swan in here somewhere. Can you see my screen right now when I'm scrolling through? No. No.
No. Oh good. What did you see? Hey there's I have all kinds of pictures in here.
Alright. Well, let me do this one then. Let's just go to the hobble one. Oh, wait. Here,
this is cool. Okay, so that, I think that's Oh, yeah. That's
nice. That's a beautiful picture by Hubble. That's nice. Beautiful. Great. Yeah, when
you look at that cluster inside there, so, that's gotta be
super massive, right? Yeah. Is that a NGC 602 or? I can't
remember. But can you imagine? that? It's just so incredible what Hubble can do And and that
there's so much starburst going on.
There's the other gas cloud. This one is where it belched. It like the star actually
hiccuped or like belched out they said. That's what it said on the title. It was HH 438 or
something. But that's another. That was a cool picture. Just seeing it you know like that
hole with the clouds. It's really amazing. Very similar to how our solar system probably
formed. It burns a whole lot of the gas and then you have your org cloud behind it. And this
was a galaxy we looked at. M one 08. The surfboard. That was
an incredible night at Rodeo New Mexico. We were able to see
amazing detail and galaxy from Boredom One Skies. Just
unbelievable views. You know, that's crazy why it
doesn't. Actually, let me try one other thing. I think I can do it this way It's just that
flower one. It's so nice. I'm going to make sure next time, I'm going to send it to you so you guys can see these. I've
spent a lot of time ahead of time. But it's just not
cooperating but this one will. Maybe. Can you hear it?
Can you see it, Scott? No. No. Nope. Now, that's crazy. Gray,
a gray block. So, I I went to the drive. It's in Zoom. A
beautiful black. You know We are positive
people. We are so zoomed up. You you remember, you remember
Frederated, right? When these things go south on me, that's what I want to do. I want to
federate it. Right. Uh for me, it's normal, you know. I hear
that where is Argentina? We are all time. Yeah. The same
situation that you described. It it's frustrating at times but you know, this is what
happens. You gotta work through it. You gotta get through the trouble. Uh speaking of stars,
I could just play a little bit like this. How about this Red Carbon star? The Campbell's
hydrogen Star. That was phenomenal. Uh it's still it's still not showing any images.
What? For strutting, frustrating is my flag. Yeah.
Frustration. Yes. Oh wait. Nope. Yes, don't worry. It's a
gremlin. Yeah. That is funny. You can't see anything. No.
Okay. That you're trying to play some videos but it's not. Yeah. I'm a music or something.
Oh, wait. Let's see what happens. Nothing. Nothing. You
don't see anything, just me still. We see the player controls, that's it. These technical difficulties. You
have to figure another way. I hate losing. Yeah. It's so
wait. Now, you can see me now. Yeah, it's absolutely. Okay. Oh, I know why I couldn't see
the photos. That's funny. These these things are crazy. These
technical difficulties. Alright, let me just go one more time. And I'll I'll leave
you go. We're going to go to Suwanee I think I might have
it. Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes. This
morning. Hey. That's nice. Yeah, you've shown that. Really nice. Whoa. Yeah. Um this thing
here, so, like, I repainted the stars. The problem is, is when
you go back and forth, the image, the stars degrade. So
you want to try to paint everything at first? These aren't really high resolution
files. So, if you paint them, you want to paint 'em all at
once and that's what happened is I I was working on this and I don't just paint, I mean, if
they're not perfect, I start over. One star could take me up to an hour sometimes just to
get it right. It's it's that bad. But this is like a real amazing view that we've had
through the 32 and the 28 and used to filter in these great
eyepieces that we have nowadays. You just see the most amazing views and the most
delicate nebulosity and intricate little molting and
and tendrils of gas working through and then the stars are
being you know born pulling fuel, that's their fuel to grow. That's an amazing cluster
though, right? No, I mean Nebula? Yes. The beautiful one.
It's almost like a cubis style or something. As well. Yeah.
Picasso actually it was Henry Matisse did a picture of Stars
but they're very simplified stars. It's pretty cool painting. It's actually an
etching. But I know a lot of these guys painted back in the
day. Well, I think I'm pretty much capped out. My my musical
thing went south again. So, going to have to figure it out
next time. Okay. But thank you everyone. Thank you. I apologize about the mishaps.
Call you in take the the impression of of this in your drought, in your sketch or your
pictures, but are pictures like no photography, no drawing, but is impressive for me, the
sensation of a big optics, Because the sensation, when
you, in, in your retina, when you have a real dark skies and you are using over 16 inches or
16 inches, is the limit, right? It's, I, I know that, that,
when you start over the, yes, 16 inches changed everything, I
don't know why, it had a ahead of this size. Do you have soul
like gathering that is impressive and start to to appear sometimes some colors
that you can imagine or. Yeah. Is like the the color. You
capture this sensation. Yes. Yes. It's it's great. It's it's
amazing Sean. You know it's good to do it all. I mean, you know, for the public, like,
when we do it, my friend Mike Garrett, he's up there with his six inch and saw ZW
and he's got his little TV and then people would go over there and compare views. Yeah. But you know, of course, the camera
view shows a lot of more details because you know, it has the ability Absolutely.
Absolutely. But we we can't eh
eh eh, we can lose for us the
real sensation in our retina, the, the, the, the things, eh, in our last report in
Catamarca, every everyone, stop to take pictures and start to
because we start to to to hate the bride of the screens. Yeah.
You know, and the people say, I don't, I don't like, I I don't need this picture here. I, I
need the the sensation in my retina, in my eyes, and we start to talk, kind of, we are
watching without filters, horse hair, or you know
yet, we, we was and you need, you need really transparent
scholars. Yeah, the transparency. Of, of course,
near to Heritage because was so bad, so
high, 4000 meters, ah, and, but we are enjoying in a very cold
night. Ah, we we say, okay, I believe this picture. I, I need
to, to, to enjoy the real thing, and this is amazing. He knows it. Yeah. Yeah. They see
in Italy, they've seen the horse head a lot. You know, there's some great great people
there. You know, a lot of mountainous regions has some amazing work coming out of, you know, for Skechers and but
that's in Italy, in, in where in the North? Yeah, I think a northern portion. There was a
fellow that was doing some photographs and sketches too
that I stumbled into and he was amazing. And he talks about being up at altitude. You know
and that's why Pinos is one of a good place to go. Right. Right now. It's amazing because
you're above the clouds. You're above the is maybe the where
they have a a more less eh area of Dolomites, National Park in Italy, maybe? Yes. Uh yeah. My
my my brother, my brother live in Italy from the 2000 year to
he he told me that it's very very dark in in one some years
ago we we when we went to to make a hunting that is a like a
national sport in this area because they are part of the culture and they eh told me
that the the the Milky Way is amazing as any another place in
Europe is because it's far away of different places from
Austria or Switzerland you know and it's it's a it's a great place. There's oceans too. I
mean, you know, look at Clyde Tombau. You know, there is something to to viewing over
water because it, you know, stabilizes and so if you're above the ocean, you know, on a
mountain close to the ocean, you can get some really good transparency. Really good Yes. yes, And here near to the in
the Chilean side and Argentina side is so empty of population.
Anybody living because it's very very you have a strong a
very landscape totally empty of maybe you can see some llamas
Wanacos I say come on and this guy is amazing. This sorry I
can lie. It's so intense in in it was intense, historical life
was over Orion Nebula and we
experiment that was so intense, the sole life, that was something like I said, come on,
it's it's something that you can see at night and I am this. Yeah. Always amazing. Uh the
Mickey way when you have the the high altitude, you can say
the center of the Milky Way in in the in their in the senate.
Uh when he told me that that you went to jail. Yeah, your your country, I'm going to say it right now. I've gotta go
back. That that view, the tarantula, Etacarina, there's
just nothing that compares to that view. Yeah. I mean, it's it is it's unbelievable and and
the southern is like a whole new thing and man, I should
move down there and spend the rest of my life there. Yeah. We are we are working in the next
Catamarca Star Party in eh eh in twelve, 13, ehm or eh well
three days in the in here is a national day you know ah and we
have a a holiday eh weekend and it's in October and maybe next
Global Safari or two supporting more at present the complete program ah for America for this
year. And of course you are invited. That's great. Everyone, everyone. And I got I
get we need yes and the prices. We need Adrian to go there because the children. Adrian,
yes, absolutely, Absolutely. He needs, he needs some good ribs and because I know down there
the the beef is no, yeah, yes, no, here, barbecue, and sure.
The bread, bread too, Argentina, bread is amazing. I mean. Yes, yes, this is, this
is what something that we have the culture that we from Spain,
the mostly of of Spain, people came from Galicia and in we are
mostly Italian and all about that we learn from our grandfathers, my grandfathers
came from Italy and about how to cook their pizza, the bread that you told me and we
received as a lot of culture of Spain and Italy and it's
amazing mixer with very many eh inca food like ah you know the
potatoes, the and do you have ah some at some a lot of sorry
of ah eh countering urinary children and it's amazing of course that me I'm ah received
more from my mother, from my grandmother, after my ah ah I am maybe seventy I am around
80% of Italian Morning my friend says hey I actually
thought you were Italian for a while. I know Italian. Many many yes because many people
say the same because we have we in Argentina we talk eh Spanish
but with Italian accent and it's it's incredible because when you see a very old movie
from Argentina or or or a recorder eh maybe in 9010. We
speak different but with a lot, a lot of people that came in
the first being of World War at the second one, we changed our
accent to to Italian accent. Right. Yes. What Turkey in
Spanish but it's a different thing and yeah. It's a sense. Many times you are from
Argentina, from Italy, I don't know. Well, we have Portuguese,
Italian, Romanian, they're five romance languages. They're all very similar to Spanish, you
know. Wow. But different. Uh different for me, Portuguese,
for example, the Marcelo, Ozosa talks, is, is, I can understand
eh mostly, of, of the things, if, if, if, if he talking
Portuguese, but, it's not the same and it's very difficult, but you have a very near
language you need to learn more because you are more able to
make mistakes because you think that you understand and you can write no. Is it well for for me
the Italian language is something that the people think that I can speak because my
face or my eyes and and the Italian people start to talk me
very very fast and say, no, no, no. Sorry. Two words. Wait a minute. Yes, because you maybe
for example it's a or
two or three three words but the people think ah you're Italian, no, I am not Italian.
We, I've been a star party The whole bus of people and none of them spoke English, but you
know what? We're under the stars. And I'm, I'm get gesturey. I start absolutely
John. And, and they love it. They love it. Absolutely it's something that that, that you,
you expose in, in, in, the things that you're eh telling
me now, is the same, I tell to Scott once a time, I, I went in
90, 90 to pitch states and and
Atlanta, Georgia, and I remember that I told to, to Scott one time that, about this
star party, where in the, in this, in this year, 23 years ago, I didn't maybe the 25% of
my actual English. I have no more than 25% of my, my, the words that I taught now, that I
understood more, and I remember that my wife, Evangelina, AKA,
help me a lot because she really taught very, very, have a very good English. Yeah. Yes,
and. Now they have translate. The phone we, absolutely, is
sure and he helped me a lot. And of course that we went with
our son, our team, that our team eh actually is eh eh processing pictures and eh he's
a a great amateur drummer too and we went with Aguti, our
song with 3 years old only. Wow. And of course that in a moment she told me, okay, I
need to go to sleep, eh with Agustine, you know, and she
leave me alone with people understand
this time I remember that I remember that you told me that I remember the old things that
we talk with the people and really I start to understood in Spanish, in my head
I remember the things in Spanish because I start to understood completely all
because the the jokes, the the things, the the feeling about the things. Yeah. With its
well, with I did, I did that to them. I told them Australia the
Muerte which is death of a star and then I showed them the Ring Nebula. And then I showed them
on my phone I did a drawing of yes. But it it was not it was
in a like not like what you would expect. It was like an actual type of a painting you
know with reds and things. Yeah. Monks in it. It was it was really cool. Style eyes.
You know. And absolutely I'm comparing this is the yes this is the feeling junk that that
you you show that is exactly exactly right. It's it's something if you compare with
nineteen ninety-nine oh yeah. Was a time where the people in
in Atlanta asked me about Argentina. Where is Argentina? I I because 23 years ago we
don't we don't have the connection that we have today
where we know and understand and and share feelings about
politics you know or So, one of my, my favorite shops in TV is
a John Oliver show. I say, okay, why? It's American things
but comparing is something that 25 years ago was not the the same way, was the last time of,
of course, that existed globalization, but not in the way where today we are connected. Because maybe, if
you start to tell, oh, you can see maybe of, about eh, maybe
you can know about eh every single thing in the world only
reading something or the the the world actually is really small about this and yes ah and
this is something that eh were people that we shared the sky ehm we eh connect we are
connected in another way ehm compare with 25 years ago and
now eh is something that eh in this time started to to to be
connected in the in the way where the people is connected now. Because COVID. Covid.
Yeah. Covid but all the technology, all the convergence and everything. Everything
changed and Astronomy astronomy. Astronomers have been the early adopters of
things like email and any kind of digital technology. They
were they're really adopters of photography. They were. Scripting Programming all the
technology that they're using daily today. Astronomers were
some of the earliest adopters of all of that stuff. So. Absolutely. Gentlemen, it is
time to call it a night. Uh. Well, I have to hear an audience. I mean, thank you
presenters for their big presentations and we will we
will see you on the next Global Star Party. So, thank you. Thank you everybody. And thank
you everyone. Good night.
Have a great evening. Take care. Caesar. Bye. Take care. Goodnight. Bye bye. Bye bye.