Global Star Party 94

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this year as well excellent yes
the weather's not as warm as this but it's uh
feel decent i was able to get a little bird again got a whole bunch of bread
we're cooler at the point at this point it's back down to low teens yeah
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hey how is everyone oh we're fine and it's good to have you
back i wanted to tell you just this afternoon i finished up uh comets creators and
destroyers it was a great read well thank you thanks i'm glad you enjoyed it
yeah it was really fun the part that stuck out to me the most
there was a part you talked about mass extinctions at least on smaller scales being i guess separated by about
30 million years on average yeah that was a really interesting part
yeah it's a statistic but it looks like there's a lot of evidence for it
does that have to do with some kind of orbital procession or something like that if the earth's orbit around the
milky way is much longer well no it's it's really
part of it might be that we go through um
and things that uh in the in the galaxy where where when the when the solar system
does that we can have an increase of strikes from comets but um
[Music] really not sure but the evidence is that in the history of the earth
it seems that approximately every 30 million years or so we do have an impact and
last one was about 30 million years ago so everybody be careful
what do i do to prepare for it um
get yourself a nice warm cup of coffee okay look up at the stars with a nice
telescope all right i like that idea but here's a question for you david
um the chelyabinsk impact for instance which was it was an air burst and not a
impact so to do those count or are we looking for extinction
not in the 30 million year big ones those are much smaller those are like every thousand years or
century years or something like that but the 30 million years are
major uh extinction events that might take place
the last really big major mass extinction event was 65 million years ago
where 90 or more of all the species of life on earth
were destroyed and that is an event and that does not happen very often well i'm prepared i have my hard hat
i did not idea dave that we were going to get into this discussion that you and i were talking
about earlier uh we have so many resources here to take
care of this problem if it was to happen to us but why aren't we doing it
uh at the urgency that we need to be doing it well we are doing quite a bit more than
is generally known [Music] the search for comments and asteroids that could
present a threat to the earth has been going on pretty full stream ahead since 1994
and that has changed the view of visual comet hunting really
incredibly and uh gene shoemaker was a lot involved in
that he testified before congress about it and uh i think i remember that yeah i
remember him being in congress doing that yes yeah and so so we have a lot
we have a lot a lot going on there so we are doing something about it
a lot more than it's generally known not well then what is generally broadcasted to the public i guess
because i feel like we're rolling the dice here i mean we already know that this is possible
and we're rolling the dice you know when you roll the dice you don't know what your odds are
unless your dice are loaded yes not only is it possible
but it's definite this question is just when will the next one take place but we know there will be a next time
we know that for sure that's a definite that's going to happen sooner or later it's going to happen
that's that's a fact yes a fact that we can't ignore
and not think that we're blessed that it's just going to pass us by i mean it ain't going to happen that way so
so here's that is true here's the question i guess you want to be here when it happens
yes well you may not have much of a choice if there's no other plan if you did have
a choice okay but i would like to know that we have some choices right
i would like to know that we have some choices in the box to take care of the problem i think there's been some
it depends on where you look but there's been some discussion and some ideas redirection
is one idea that i've seen discussed but it's not a worldwide
broadcast sort of uh thing where it's like it's coming on cbs
news you kind of have to search for some of the things that are being tested
um as far as redirecting asteroids maybe not destroying them but catching them in
time knowing that they are going to hit the earth and then redirecting them further
out in space to where then they miss so i know that that's a that's something that i think is actually being
tested i think it's one of uh i think it's a mission that's been put up and anyone who knows
could correct me if that's a mission that's already on the table as far as testing
some of these ways to sort of protect the earth early detection seems to be our biggest
way to try and deal with it um thus far something that comes out of
the sun is a concern like the meteor
came out of the sun i think that's where and there are people trying to do something about it but now it's gotta
curve i think it's just got to be approved
but as soon as we get around our own sun it's too bright you can't see it coming in and
that's what it turns not that that was a global extinction event but imagine if
something huge did come in that direction you have to be able to to detect it
as it comes streaking in on an angle so yeah that is that would concern me
because we kind of have a hole in our in our ability to determine near adoptions
you see that's one of the problems i see that we're having here we're able to find all of
we're able to find most of the big ones and and we know we have a couple small ones but every once in a while
the big one will sneak under the radar and come right past us and won't even know it's there within a couple days
so those are the scary ones yeah i think something is being done to try to mitigate that
because it it i think kelly evans was one of the events that kind of opened up
the eyes to say hey we we may need a better way to detect it
and i know there were some proposals made on how to including satellites
you know similar to james webb and that they they orbit at a lagrange point and can see these things coming in
a lot earlier than ground-based telescopes what i wonder is if you're talking about
redirection i mean you have an asteroid that's in roughly the same plane and about the same direction as the
earth is orbiting but the case with comets i mean neo wise and leonard as recent examples
they fly in from the oort cloud with little warning and then you also have a lot of velocity concentrated in one
direction so it's not quite like you can easily launch something from the earth and rendezvous with an asteroid this is
something that's you know barreling straight at you and it's it's a lot harder to redirect you need a lot more notice which is what i'm
talking about here terrifying in a way yeah
although i i'll tell you what it's probably quick and painless for instance they say the speed of that
thing was you know that's interstellar you know we're we're talking about things that are still
within the reach of our solar system something comes barreling in from a different solar system that's even
harder to catch and we know these things exist and we've yet to figure out how often
they actually come hurtling through the solar system so there are i mean there are things to
worry about um better the mega constellation satellites
up there you know 40 000 spacex starlinks detection is going to get a little bit
more problematic yeah well visual
i i guess we'd have to figure out a different way to do it i know that those satellites
are small enough as far as ground-based detection for things far enough away
would still be possible but anything close enough and anything amateur because a lot of
detection happens with amateur our friend david can attest to the fact
that he and uh the shoemakers were able to detect something
and i don't know if there was a wide field survey going on like pan stars and eois
you know all of these we do have these wide field surveys that are constantly going but
i think uh one i think one of the interstellar visitors we had a second one
that was just um discovered by an amateur astronomer um i forget boris
that off i forget the name of the uh comet but i believe it was an interstellar visitor as well
you've had two so far you're right yeah so there's
yeah
you know the best we can do is continue to funnel these concerns through channels
like this and you know those who are professional in the ranks we've got the planetary
society who um who can go before congress and propose these missions
so you know it's up to us to tell the planetary this is one vehicle we can use the planetary society
we can we can post to um you know bill nye um
but then there's other heads of the uh you know there's other heads of the planetary society casey dreyer i believe our the advocate
you could you can send letters and say we're a little more concerned about
you know the a global armageddon like impact here and
detecting these things what are we what are we doing to address that and
then you know get an answer or see if there's
some funding that's being asked for for a mission that addresses it so we can there are things we can do to see
what's going on but um it does involve writing some letters or emails and a bit of work you got to
connect the planetary society is a good conduit through which you can connect through so
those of you out there listening and joining us because i we're six minutes in um
you find out about some of the societies that are doing something about um planetary impacts that have the power
to go before congress the planetary society is one of those and um
send some letters and let them know that this is an interesting subject to you and what missions are being developed
we know that light sale is i think that was crowdfunded and now there's a light sail mission so if there
needs to be another mission to detect more asteroids let them know that is that's one way we can address
this there's the dart mission the dart mission
the dark mission right now it's flying yes it's flying oh good
and uh and i think caitlyn and i were on it there at one point looking for stuff but
um it's actually there so i think here i think uh that we're past
the latter stage we're now on to the searching stage
okay that's that's actually good news yeah so there we go
yes well i'm curious go ahead it wasn't the
it wasn't the punches that you could see that knocked you out that you didn't see that knocked you out
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with that uh we're going to go ahead and get started so here we go and uh
uh caitlin i thought we'd start with this little video first
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at the end of 2017 a galaxy 236 million light years away began a rare and
dramatic transformation it's an event astronomers are still puzzling over
one set off by changes near its central black hole they first explained this as a title
disruption event that's when a star wanders so close to a supermassive black hole that it's torn apart
a new study of observations spanning the entire event suggests a different cause
the trigger may have been a flip in the magnetic field in the disk of material around the black hole
the sun's magnetic field reverses polarity every 11 years on longer time scales even earth's
magnetic field flips starting in december 2017 the galaxy
began to brighten invisible and ultraviolet light the source of this brightening appeared
to be the disk of material around the supermassive black hole at the galaxy's center
it peaked three months later at nearly 100 times its previous brightness
that's when regular monitoring with nasa's swift satellite began as the visible and uv brightened x-rays
from the galaxy dimmed by august 2018 the higher energy x-rays
had disappeared completely a few months later the high-energy x-rays came back even brighter than
before they returned to normal within a year
these x-rays come from a cloud of super hot particles near the black hole it's a feature called the corona which is
formed by the strong magnetic field the lack of higher energy x-rays means that this structure was essentially gone
based on observations from swift europe's xmn satellite and ground-based optical and radio telescopes here's what
may have happened the visible and uv flare results when
the flow of matter into the black hole increases this may have started when the magnetic
field in the disk's outer regions began to flip the weakened magnetic field can no
longer support the corona which vanishes the flipped magnetic field gains
strength restoring the x-ray corona but the inward flow of matter is still high
so this emission is stronger than it was before the flare finally the corona and disk returned to
their states before the flare now with a flipped magnetic field
rapid changes in uv and visible light have only been observed in a few dozen active galaxies like this one
but this is the first time x-rays have been seen to drop out as other wavelengths brighten
these surprising events offer a tantalizing glimpse at the extreme forces at work near an actively feeding
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hello everyone this is scott roberts from explore scientific and the explore alliance and it gives me great pleasure
to introduce you to the 94th global star party uh we're starting our countdown
now to the 100th event which will have some very special door prizes but we
also always have nice door prizes for every event that we do
i am particularly pleased to introduce reintroduced tom pickett who is the
founder of the facebook astronomy club a club that has been around since 2012
and is one of tom pickett's um great outreach efforts
he's reached literally i'm sure millions of people around the world uh through the facebook astronomy
club that has over 40 000 members today um and uh
so it goes it gives me again great pleasure to um bring tom on i am going
to give him the uh pleasure of introducing david levy on to the global star party
hey down there mr levy everybody knows this guy this guy is
famous for what he and uh his colleagues did by discovering
this comment or whatever you want to call it that hit jupiter that put a nice bunch of scars
and uh gave humanity kind of an eye-opening situation
about what could happen to us if this thing coming towards us and look what it did to jupiter so it
was one of those times in humanity where we learned a lesson about our existence here
and a very important one and one of the discussions that we're having right now
and i'll let uh mr levy take it from there
we can talk about all of this thank you very much thank you so much and uh it's a pleasure
to be here tonight uh the we've had a busy month so far
there is the was the lunar eclipse on sunday night which was absolutely gorgeous
it wasn't as dark as the 1963 eclipse but it was pretty dark
and the best part of it was wendy and me sitting outside quietly in our
observatory on this gorgeous evening on the full moon watching the darkened
moon for over an hour it was it was a lot of fun and i know wendy's sitting right
here agreeing with that um there's more coming up this month
you know in 1995 or 97 or some of them were not
epic uh people were observing comet swash from lachlan three
when the comet suddenly started to break apart into two three several big pieces
and it broke apart very suddenly and it left huge amounts of debris
right around that area on the night of may 30th that's just a
couple of weeks from now the earth is going to plow directly through that debris for the first time
we don't know what's going we don't know what's going to happen there may be a meteor storm one person
has predicted it could be the largest media storm in history wow or we may not see anything
what we do know is the time the 30th of may at ten o'clock mountain time
which is midnight scotty's time and uh eastern time i think it is one am
on the morning of the 31st so i'm hoping that we'll all be out there
it should the earth shouldn't take more than four or five minutes to plow through the debris trails
but um if it does that well it's going to do that but if we see anything it should be
a very sharp increase of the number of meteors for a period of about five minutes
the other thing that's happening is that this weekend i will be in flagstaff i know scotty is going to
do some kind of a of a deal with that i believe yes and
he'll he will talk about that a little later today but we are celebrating the life of carolyn
shoemaker and uh it's going to be uh it's going to be a
very happy sad event to be able to celebrate someone
who has had as important a life as carolyn shoemaker has and now for the
quotations i have two of them today that i'm going to do in honor of caroline
the first is from president john f kennedy who said these words at the american
university in 1963 a few months after the cuban missile
crisis and if you're interested in hearing the words from president kennedy
i believe if any of you have the movie 13 days watch the end of it just before the
credits roll they play president kennedy himself saying
these words for in the final analysis our most basic common link
is that we all inhabit this small planet we all breathe the same air
we all cherish our children's futures and we are all mortal
the other quotation i'm going to do is a very famous one from shakespeare in honor of both gene and carolyn
it's from romeo and juliet and juliet says come gentle night
come loving black proud night give me my romeo and when he shall die
take him and cut him out in little stars and he will make the face of heaven so fine
that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish son
tom back to you thank you thank you well um
one of the things that david was alluding to is that this weekend we'll be at lowell observatory
for a special tribute to carolyn shoemaker she was a wonderful woman very inspiring
to talk to if you can find her on youtube uh you'll
see her giving some talks uh but uh she was uh brilliant and um
uh to me when i first talked to her i felt like i was talking to somebody like a you know a female jacques cousteau or
something i i was just really you know it was just amazing uh to hear her talk
about comets and all of that the first time i met her was uh when i
was getting to know david levy better and we were at the 18-inch schmidt camera on palomar mountain and uh that
was a very special uh evening and um so i um
you know i agreed to broadcast live the the tribute event
i will be sending out information about where to find it on youtube
for those of you that might be interested but it's going to be i think a historic event all in itself
there's going to be some amazing people there of course david will be there and people will be talking about how
carolyn shoemaker affected their lives so thank you very much david thank you
thank you my honor yeah and we'll see you this weekend okay
so um up next we have chuck allen from the astronomical league
always like to encourage people to look towards the league for learning
more about astronomy they have over 80 observing programs
that you can indulge in they have awards programs have been going on for
decades they're in their 75th year of existence and
it is a great organization to join they do have global membership available
which you you know you can join as a as a member at large and you'll be
joining the largest federation of astronomy clubs in the world they have over 20 000 members 300 member
clubs and they come on global star party every week to do our
special door prize questions which the executives of the
astronomical league put together so and chuck allen also asked me if he
could have a few extra minutes to give a short presentation after the
question so of course you know we love chuck allen and his presentation so chuck i'm going to turn it over to you
thank you scott and i again for those who aren't familiar with it scott's been one of the great
benefactors of the league for over 30 years and uh a great initial sponsor of our national
young astronomer award program so we're eternally grateful to scott and to explore scientific for the support that
he provides to a number of our awards programs um
i only need a couple of extra minutes actually but uh let me start with the uh is my video uh audio okay scott it's
audio you're looking good i can see you okay well i'm more concerned about audio i'm using a new computer now okay
let me share screen and we'll go to
something that we always do at the beginning of our questions and that is to talk about how precious sight is
not just for astronomers but for people who might look through your telescope or be around you when you're using your
telescope be sure that if you observe the sun you do so with professionally made solar
filters that reject energy at the front end of the telescope not some filter
that goes on the eyepiece at the eyepiece end of the telescope use
if you use eclipse glasses use them visually only do not use them with binoculars or a telescope
scott i think did a little experiment where he put some eclipse glasses uh near the port of a telescope near the
eyepiece and they melted almost immediately the film is not intended for use with optical instruments
be sure if you're using a telescope during daytime that you monitor it
because children will try to access the sun with the telescope given a chance i've seen it happen
fortunately it was stopped before any harm came to anyone but be very careful
about it if you want to observe the sun and you're new at it contact a local astronomy club i guarantee you they will
have skilled solar observers who can tell you how to use the equipment properly
these are the answers from the previous gsp we had a question that said we have a
total lunar eclipse on sunday night during totality stars near the moon can be seen what double star shines just 10
degrees to the upper right of the moon people with keen eyesight can resolve the double star the answer was
zubenelgenubi the second question was la superba which can be viewed through binoculars on a spring evening was a
prime example of what kind of star is it a red giant a variable or a carbon star
and the answer was it's all three
and finally the third question was the closest planet to earth on the night of that gsp was mercury at 59 million miles
interestingly though venus and mars get much closer to earth than mercury ever does mercury is actually in one sense
the closest planet to the earth because it spends more time closer as the closest planet to the earth than does
any other planet and so we'll move on now to the people who provided the correct
answers on may 10th and they were cameron gillis adrian bradley andrew corkell and barbara brown and their
names will be added as i said to the door prize list i'd like to talk about
a little uh problem
of unfairness and it's astronomical unfairness and it has to do with something that
we're all familiar with and that's occultations uh here you see a july 1997 uh image
taken by bart benjamin and he placed it in public domain of the moon occulting of deborah aldebaran and taurus
these occultations occur with some regularity and they're a very popular subject for
the occult international occultation timing association if you want to get involved with them they have very interesting
projects that they can lead you to here's another image that appeared in the sky telescope of the
moon occulting a star we also have transits
that we observe here we see an amazing picture taken in 2015
uh showing two uh of jupiter's moons transiting the face of jupiter and um or three rather
and two of them casting shadows shadow transits on jupiter jupiter also occults
these moons when the moons pass behind jupiter as seen from earth and these events occur
with considerable regularity although finding one like the one you see in this picture will be quite difficult i assure
you here is a lunar occultation of saturn that was taken by philip salsgetter in
2001. lunar occultations of planets are a bit less frequent but they're always
interesting and i'll let you watch this one a couple times before we move to the next one
very well done video and here's a time lapse of a
lunar occultation of mars you see mars emerging from behind the limb of the moon this was taken by praveen
suryavanchi in 2021
again these events with the moon occulting planets because of the moon's large angular
size in the sky half a degree are not terribly rare but they're always great
subjects for videographers and photographers
and here's a photograph taken in 2005 of a lunar occultation about to begin the
moon passing in front of jupiter
our hubble space telescope and the cassini mission in particular have been able to take some interesting
occultation images this is a cassini mission image of ria culting dion
which is really rather incredible but the cassini mission was able to put itself into
position to take a number of amazing shots such as viewing moons through the
rings of saturn viewing earth through the rings of saturn and so forth they had a good choreographer that
cassini mission did there was a pluto occultation you could
have driven down to alabama to observe it and pluto occulted a star faint star
ucac4 345 18315 and did not completely occult it because
some of the light from the star was actually refracted through the atmosphere of pluto so it didn't disappear completely in this image
and here is a little star that's winking out because eris one of our dwarf planets
is passing in front of the star occulting it this image taken in 2010
obviously with professional instrumentation but what about planets occulting other
planets how often does that occur and this is where the story of unfairness comes up
here is a list of planetary occultations or transits of other planets in some
cases a planet will pass in front of the face of a planet that's larger in angular diameter so it doesn't
completely occult it but here's the list of instances recently or in the near
future in which this has happened the last time it happened was in 1818 when venus transited jupiter
we are near the end of a 247-year gap uh in which none are occurring but look
at the list starting in 2065. mostly inferior planets occulting superior
planets until you get to 2223 when a superior planet mars occults
jupiter the the real sin of this is that someone born in 2053 will be able to observe all
nine of these between the ages of 12 and 80 years of age and we get none we was
robbed no question about it as far as superior planets occulting superior planets
uh the last one was in 1702 when jupiter occulted neptune but neptune had not
been discovered yet so that was never observed in 2223 201 years from now
mars will occult saturn that's after an 836 year gap in superior planet
occultations of other superior planets the next one after that is 456 years
from now after another 255 year gap you won't want to hold your breath for
either of those this is a simulated view of a
large gas giant planet occulting another one jupiter occulting saturn and if you want
to wait up for this one you'll have to wait until the year i can't read it because it's covered by
the chat but you can see it there february 10th and 75 41. thank you very
much thank you yeah okay so on to the questions for tonight and
the first one is an asterism known as the three leaps of the gazelle these two
stars these two stars and these two stars can be found in what constellation
okay uh a second and by the way uh neglected to
add to these slides uh you need to send your answers to secretary at
astroleg.org email to secretary at astroleague.org
question two the recently imaged black hole at the center of the milky way has a name
what is it again email to secretary
astroleague.org i apologize for leaving that off finally it's june 21st this is the third
question it's june 21st on a clear day at one point in the middle of the day the sun casts no shadows at all
in which one of the following places might you be hawaii antarctica
ecuador or australia i'll let you think about that one for just a moment and repeat
that your answers go to secretary at astrology.org
june 21st clear day sun casting no shadows at all
that's almost exactly a question from one of my tests last year is that right
okay all right well that's that's it and i hope you will join us for the next astronomical
league live that will take place friday june 17th at 7 00 pm and one of our guests tonight
and a great friend of all of us caitlin aarons dr aarons comes to us from the goddard
space flight center and she will be our presenter that night and we look forward to it caitlin thank you very much scott
thank you let's see there we go okay
all right so let's um uh our next speaker uh thanks again chuck that was awesome
uh our next speaker is uh uh professor karim
jaffar and he is from john abbott college and he's also from the royal astronomical society of canada the
montreal center okay the royal astronomical society of canada has been around since
the late 1800s they have over 5 000 members uh and i
know that they have international members as well um and i'm going to share
uh how you can join this particular club that is often on global star party with us
they do incredible outreach and you know i think that
you know if you want to get involved in some of their programs they do a lot of broadcasting themselves special events
they're very involved with youth in astronomy it's a great group they also have
observing programs and all the rest of it and the royal astronomical society and the astronomical league are great
friends and they're right in the midst right now of planning a um
a joint convention so i don't know all the details of it but
i think it'll be a fantastic thing and something not to be missed so uh i am going to bring you on kareem let
me find you let's see i'm here somewhere i know you're there
somewhere let me find you i was going to spotlight on you before you switched to uh sharing here that helps me i can do
that there you are okay sorry i can actually you know we are we we are
over 150 years old uh getting close to 155. unfortunately we weren't around in
1818 when uh that last great occultation was that chuck was talking about and
based on what we saw this past sunday i can tell chuck that while it is very unfair uh
most likely there will be cloudy nights uh especially here in montreal for most of those other ones that you pointed out
we're not we're not necessarily going to have uh those those individuals born in the mid 2000s
getting a chance to see all of those so thanks scott i'm happy to be here tonight to talk to you a little bit
about the theme of transformation and what i decided is i'm going to talk to you a little bit about transformation and the understanding of
our universe now before i do i just wanted to make a couple of shout outs as as scott mentioned i'm with the royal
astronomical society of canada i'm with the montreal center we are a group who's been around for a
bit over 100 years and we're active in outreach we love doing all sorts of stuff and myself i am part
of our national education public outreach committee i'm also a member of the university lowbrows with adrian
who's on tonight with us and i'm a panelist on astro radio reach out and touch space uh which i know some of you
in the audience do listen to it's a great radio show every monday eight o'clock to ten o'clock it's actually
british summer time at the moment rather than universal time before i jump into the topic for tonight
i did want to mention one of our programs that we've just launched the second iteration of which is called creation station
this is an area that the rasc makes available on our website specifically for kids and it's this year youth ages
5-17 and we invite you to submit your stories your poems your drawings even
multimedia if you want to make a video if you want to write a song if you want to share something in your imagination
about space with the world we want to provide you a platform to do so so visit
rasc.ca creation station it's we accept
submissions in multiple languages uh of course being canada english and french is the ones that we
we look out for but we're actually open to accepting any language if you want to submit something in your own language or
in a first nations tongue we would love to hear that now tonight's topic of transformation when
scott sent it out i was actually a little torn because at first i thought you know should we talk about
transformation in terms of the transformation of astronomy outreach and we've talked about this a couple of times before
but right now it's kind of fresh in my mind because i went from you know 2017 the partial solar eclipse in montreal to
this past sunday getting to be on zoom and share a lunar eclipse but do it in less of an in-person fashion now this
isn't really that fair of a comparison of course because one was daytime on the very first day of classes on a nice
summer day but it's clear and the other was a rainy cloudy day and there were actually a lot of us on i
think scott we went seven hours is that correct yeah seven hours yeah it was fantastic because uh you know a lot of
us got rained out a lot of us got clouded out but we still managed to catch the occasional picture molly's
image of the moon kept coming in and out through clouds and then simon came on and the moon rose in california and
simon had a beautiful view through stages of the eclipse which was really wonderful to be able to share with the
world and that was where i was thinking maybe i'll take transformation towards astronomy
outreach and then i thought no you know what maybe what scott's getting it and one of my students suggested this is scott
wants me to talk about my transformation from this beast that i was last summer to the to the person i am now and i
decided to wear the same top so you would know it really is the same person um but i don't think that's what scott
meant either so i decided to take a different approach to transformation and i want to take you all out to
a summer night when you're out in a relatively dark sky outside of the city and you get a chance to see the stars
and you get a chance to see hopefully the arm of the milky way maybe a few meteors like what we hopefully will see
at the end of this month as david was mentioning even if it's a cloudy day even if there's a lot of clouds a lot of wind
even if it's cool rather than warm you still get that chance to see the stars
and think about your place in the world your place in the solar system your place in the galaxy in your place in the
universe and we're not alone in this so when we talk about transformation what i want to talk about is our transformation
in our understanding of the universe of what the universe is compared to what we see in our sky
and it might be that you're looking directly at to the core the arm of the milky way maybe even looking right at
sagittarius a star the black hole in the middle of our milky way and yes i'm giving away an answer sorry about that
chuck but this was what i was prepared to talk about but for a lot of us when we're looking
at the stars and we're watching the sky through the night we start to get a feel for the way in
which the sky moves and if you're looking in the northern hemisphere
rather than looking at the arm of the milky way for most of the year we're looking north
and we're looking at the circumpolar constellations and we're seeing them move around the north star around
polaris and we're seeing these circumpolar constellations creating star trails over this band of the night
and as we see those star trails and we see the constellations move we realize that we see them at a different starting
point at different times of the year and so our first nations would create
stories to try to explain the way in which these stars were changing through the year as well as through the night
and we've talked a little bit about you know osha the fisher from the ojibwe peoples and we've talked a little bit
about some of the ojibwe star constellations and winter maker coming out and telling me it's time to clear
out my my driveway and put the car inside the garage so that winter is coming at any moment in time
when we're looking at these stars and we're creating these stories the reason that we're doing so is we're trying to
get a handle on what we see in the sky and what we're seeing around us in nature because we recognize that there's
a connection of some type to what we see and what we experience
and when there's really intricate and elaborate sort of events in the night
sky like eclipses we start to develop tales and legends to try to explain them
and on sunday night i talked to you about hadi and skull the two sons of fenrir the wolf and trying to chase
after the moon and the sun to try to catch them to try to bring about armageddon
but they can't hold them on because the moon is too cold and the sun is too hot so they spit them back out and it keeps
us alive and it keeps our world turning well we now know it's turning but at the
time it just keeps our world functioning and it keeps us from having to deal with the end of times
we also try to note and observe and document the things that we see in the night sky and
so you have the silk atlas from china where they try to identify the comets
and how they differ and when they were seen and where in the sky they were and they tried to denote whether their
similarities or differences between different ones and maybe some are repeating or maybe some are completely
new and then we bring all of that together into oral tradition into oral stories
and those oral stories are told by the elders like wilford buck of decree and they talk about these in a way that
allows you to connect the way in which you respond to nature in the way in which you connect to nature and the way
in which you see animals around you from different seasons in different times of the year
to what you see in the night sky because that's your window into a greater world
into a cosmos and this is kind of the basis of all civilizations starting out observing and
creating these legends and these stories and that's why all of our constellations the names of our stars and even a lot of
the things that we see in the sky the names that we give them are based on these origins these origin stories of
our attempt to connect what we see to our place in the universe whether it's turtle island
with a portal coming from a spiritual realm whether it's us being created and as
such we are prey to benevolent gods or very very altruistic
gods and they take care of us or they frown on us and they make punish us for our behavior when the behavior isn't
what they prescribe in every little way we're trying to find a connection between what we see
and who we are and in modern astronomy we tend to talk about this connection and this
understanding of our view of the universe as starting from the greeks and moving forward
so all of these different observations all of these different legends all of the science and observation that's hidden
within when it came time to look at a scientific model of the cosmos we tend
to go back to that first set of models from the greek and specifically from aristotle in the physics of aristotle
and it was ptolemy who did the first quantization of this and it was trying to create an earth-centered cosmology
which was the geocentric model of the solar system so the idea there was that earth is special we are at
the moon closest to us so the moon is there and then we have a couple of planets that are inferior to the sun so
we have mercury and venus then the sun and then you have mars jupiter and saturn and that was the extent of the
visible planets the wanderers that the greeks had seen
now this model of the cosmos was what we use to try to understand
what we see in the sky because we have these stationary stars the celestial
sphere but then closer to us we have these wanderers and so when we're trying to understand that this is the correct model one way
to do it is to use the model to make predictions because that's really what science is all about science is about
trying to understand variables so that you can predict future behavior and in science when i'm talking to my
students and i talk about making a graph and they're like well why a graph and i said because if you can quantify that
graph if you can understand the relationship you're graphing you know how one variable relates to another so
you can predict if you change this one what is that one going to do down the road so when we're testing any of our
scientific theories and really with science you have to continuously test
you use them to make predictions and then you see how close the predictions are to the results of your experiment so
in this case instead of an experiment it's an observation and when we go to observe the planetary positions with the
geocentric model we realize the geocentric model in a simple form doesn't account for retrograde motion of
the planets and that retrograde motion of the planets when mars comes back on itself in its orbit is something that we
try to understand in some way but what we don't want to do is we want
to throw out the baby with the bath water if that's the only thing that's missing that's incorrect in our model
then maybe we can simply refine the model rather than throw it out so the refinement that we came up with was
epicycles the idea being that you put circles within the orbits and those circles allow us to then
see a backwards motion for a short amount of time that worked really well actually for
about 1500 years that gave relatively good future planetary positions
in fact for all of those core planets that we talked about between 40 to 60
epicycles were needed to quantify those orbits and make them as precise as
possible to match what you saw i believe for jupiter at this point from the original geocentric model with the
original setup all the way back in ptolemy's time we need over a hundred epicycles to get to where we are at now
for where jupiter is in the sky but with those epicycles if you believe that that
is a viable way of understanding the motion of planets it actually does a reasonable job of explaining where they
are so that's success the refinement saved the model but the other prediction of the model
was that because of the placement of the planet venus from earth between earth
and the sun only some phases of venus should be visible and galileo realized that there
was a full set of phases visible for venus and that doesn't match this model
of the geocentric universe and so that was a crisis and we had to abandon the
idea of the physics of aristotle and instead we adopted the physics of newton
and copernicus was the one who came up with a model which was then explained by the physics of newton and copernicus's
model was a heliocentric model the idea of the sun at the center of the universe so with the geocentric model the earth
was at the center and all of these other objects that were orbiting had to obtain these incredibly intricate epicycle
motions in order to try to explain the positions that we see but for the heliocentric model it's much
simpler with the sun at the center and the earth is the third planet out everything actually works rather well
for the positions of the planets in terms of the motion that we see however the actual specific locations of
where we would consider those planets to be didn't match very well in fact it
wasn't even better than ptolemies so it explained the phases of venus but it didn't explain the positions of the
planets so now again either we throw out the model or we try
to refine it and tycho brahe tried really hard to show that it's actually a geocentric
model and not a heliocentric model by taking lots and lots and lots of positional calculations and observations
of the planets throughout the throughout the years year after year after year and then pass
them to kepler to try to do mathematics to explain that it is a geocentric model
and what kepler found was that the geocentric model doesn't work the heliocentric model doesn't work with the
assumption of circular orbits but if you bring in elliptical orbits all of a sudden the heliocentric model is much
much much much better so this gave us a very nice
refinement that gave us our predictions of future planetary positions that now
was beyond the original geocentric model so the geocentric model is now out the
heliocentric model is now what we're working from and so then we make predictions of what
else the heliocentric model might show us so if we are actually moving around the
sun then from one side of the sun to the other we should actually see closer
stars move with respect to further stars and so that's the idea of parallax and
so we should be able to see an observed shift of closer stars with respect to
the further stars on the celestial sphere of course our observation was no shift
and the reason was not that there was no shift it was actually that our optics weren't good enough and in 1838 when
bessel came up with much better optical arrangements and lenses we all of a sudden started to see small amounts of
parallax and that enabled us to save the sun-centered model for the time
being but the other model or the other prediction of the sun-centered model is
not only is the sun at the center of our solar system it's also at the center of our universe and the universe was
thought to be everything else outside of the wanderers unfortunately we made the
observation in 1918 through the observation of where globular clusters were that the sun was actually not at
the center of even our local arrangement of stars and the globular clusters seem to be centered around a point in
sagittarius instead but we also observed in 1923 that we're
not in one island universe we actually have multiple galaxies throughout the
universe and so now we have a revolution because the sun is no longer the center
of the universe the universe is not as simple as we thought it was there's multiple nebulae
that are actually their own systems of stars and those systems of stars are
well beyond in distance anything we could have possibly imagined with the heliocentric model
so this brings us to the third cosmological revolution of modern astronomy and here we abandon the
physics of aristotle we used the physics of newton up to the point that we could get to and now we need the physics of
einstein and the physics of einstein with the observations of hubble bring us to big bang cosmology and in big bang
cosmology we have the idea that the entire universe started from some sort of a point 13.8 billion years ago and is
expanding since then now hubble was able to make these observations that the galaxies are all
receding from each other based on the redshift measurements by vesta sliffer and his own measurements of the relative
distances to these galaxies he found the correlation where further galaxies showed a greater redshift which meant
that they were moving away faster than closer galaxies and the model that would
explain that is if the entire universe in space itself is expanding now as
original observations were not quite accurate in terms of distances the relative distances were reasonably done
but the actual scale of distance was wrong because he didn't know that there were more than one type of star
but that didn't mean that the overall prediction and the overall observation were incorrect it's simply a matter of
scaling the size of the universe which was done much better afterwards but there's more predictions coming from
this big bang model because if the universe started out as one point and then just exploded out in some fashion
then you would have a hot dense expanding universe which means that the majority of the elements that were
created early on in the universe would have been the lightest of the elements so predominantly hydrogen
then helium then very very very little lithium and beryllium and so the prediction is if that's the
way the universe began that should still be what we see now and that is actually the case the universe
is around three-quarters hydrogen and a quarter helium by mass it's not exact there's a lot of other heavier elements
but they're very very small in numerical composition compared to the hydrogen and helium and if we just look
at our sun which sicilia paint did an amazing job of working out the spectroscopy and the elemental
composition the sun is 74.5 hydrogen 24 helium and
the rest is the little bit of metallicity the metals are you know anything heavier than helium for
astronomers so this observation again it correlates with the prediction from the big bang
model so so far we're dead on what else well if we started out with an expanding
universe that then became more and more ordered than in the early universe
galaxies should look very different and that's actually the case when we look at distant galaxies they're less evolved
both physically and chemically and we tend to refer to most these earlier galaxies as irregular galaxies because
they haven't taken on fully spiral or elliptical shapes we also would predict that if the
universe was denser and hotter in the past and there was this starting point this big bang then we should be able to
find evidence of the leftover heat from the early universe and penzias and wilson were able to
measure some microwave background radiation that gave us a temperature for the universe left over from the big bang
of around 2.73 kelvin so up till now the testing of the big
bang model has gone really really well but as we make more and more
observations occasionally observations stop matching with what the big bang
model can describe and one of those sets of observations came from
vera rubin where she identified that spiral galaxy rotation curves the speed at which the stars far outside from the
core of these spiral galaxies are rotating around the center was too fast
to be explained by the amount of gravity you could see by the luminous matter by the stuff that you could actually
measure based on the stuff you can measure those galaxies should actually be ripping
apart those stars far away should be flying off in all directions but they're not they're being held in
and so how can we explain that given that our observations don't match
the physics that we're working with so one possibility is there might be something wrong with the physics one
possibility is there might be something wrong with the model and a third possibility is is maybe there's something that we can't observe
so at the moment we believe that there's a new and unknown form of matter that's non-luminous and it actually makes up 85
of the matter that we can see gravitational interactions from its gravity works the same way but we
have not been able to figure out how to observe how much of it it is but because we've seen some galaxies
without any dark matter and because we've seen dark matter lensing events we believe that this
actually might be the case but then we get even more complicated because now we've realized since the
2011 uh no sorry the 1998 observations that the
expansion of the universe is actually accelerating and if the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating
then the gravitational stuff the mass of the universe isn't putting a constraint on things so what could be causing the
expansion to actually speed up that would be some extra amount of energy content and if we do the math it's
actually accounting for 68 of the known universe so 68 of the known universe is this
extra energy that we don't actually know what it is or how it works but we see
its effect and 27 of the known universe is matter that we can't detect but we see its
gravitational effect and five percent of the universe is the ordinary matter that we normally see and
that we can actually measure and figure out so the question here becomes is this a
crisis we know that if we take into account dark energy and if we take into account dark matter things seem to make relative
sense within the big bang model but we don't know what dark matter is and we don't know exactly what dark energy is
we have a few different models that might explain it but until we get observations that either match the
predictions of what we expect to see from dark matter and from dark energy
or don't and we realize that there is a crisis and we need to build a new model
rather than simply refine the existing one we won't know so our current view of the universe has a fair number of questions
still open to it and that's kind of exciting because that leaves a lot of opportunity for a lot more
looking out at the night sky and wondering thanks for your attention i hope that
was fun
scott you're muted i'm sorry muted that's right here we go i i know it's incredible i i always enjoy
listening to your uh presentations kareem and i know that the audience uh just uh gets a lot of
great well it's a great learning experience overall so um thank you and you know kudos to all
the uh outreach activities for the royal astronomical society of canada montreal
center uh i think that your the outreach programs you have going for youth right now are very strong i i don't know if
this is the strongest it's ever been but uh um you know it evolves over time and that's
the thing is is as youth and their interests and also the tools they have available to them evolve we have to
evolve and so bringing stuff to them in person but also bringing content to them through youtube through these websites
multimedia platforms this is how we engage them and that's really where our future is we have to
engage the youth and keep them excited about learning and being able to contribute to space research and
astronomy and that's where you know things like zooniverse are just fantastic because kids who have an
interest have an area where they can dive into their hearts content and they're welcome and they're needed and
so i love i love doing the outreach but i also love seeing kids come to me with
their ideas and the things that they've discovered that's that's the most fun yeah that's that's a that's a huge
reward so thank you very much corrine and uh we love scott can i and you're on the
global star party thanks a lot you know what uh somebody was saying something was it tom
yes i had something hey uh you did a fantastic job presentation that uh
i like people when they can explain something where the layman can understand it
so yeah because we put we seem to use all these scientific these long scientific names
and we don't break it down to see what it is it actually means and uh we need more people out there to explain
it where people can understand what we're talking about
oh my pleasure you know it's and part of it is is you do get lost in the
terminology sometimes you do get lost in the math sometimes if you dive into this too much or into into the data itself
but it's just fun sometimes to to step back and say well what do we what do we know
and what do we think we know what do we see what does it mean and for any of that you can do that just in
a conversational fashion it doesn't have to be a textbook explanation and i can tell by listening at your program that
you know exactly what you've talked what you're talking about you've done your research you've done your homework
and you know where and you know how to lay it out where people can understand it and that's what's important
well the homework's the important part right you got to keep learning and that's that's where the homework never ends
i take my time to listen to dr barth and to listen to caitlyn to listen to others because that's where i learn from as
well bob fugate on here the other what like uh two three episodes ago my jaw
was like to the ground the entire time i i still was furiously taking notes yeah we are so blessed to have so many
amazing i appreciate that and and thanks scott for letting me get some little wiggle room there
no problem thank you thank you scott okay all right so up next um
we will uh bring on um mike wiesner mike and i and david levy
are all collaborating to bring the next arizona dark sky star party uh at oracle
state park and mike mike is with us to kind of show us more about
the park and and what you can expect to see when you attend this amazing star party so i'm going to turn it over to
you mike thank you scott um yeah what i'm going to try to do is
give you a taste of what being at oracle state park just north of tucson is going to be like
this september um there's all kinds of possible things you can do there at the
park and in the area but we're going to talk about mostly the park today so let
me share my screen hopefully this will work
okay you should have my screen up so
arizona david h levy arizona sky star party is going to be here at oracle state park as well parts of it will be
down at biosphere 2 which is actually considered part of oracle itself uh it's
gonna be in september 21st to the 25th so let's just jump right into this
so i'm going to show you some maps here initially just to kind of give you an idea where we're located so you're
pretty familiar with the united states and of course the eastern half the united states is pretty well wiped out
from light pollution but you look at the western half of the united states uh we got some good dark sky areas here
so arizona is down here in the southwest of the united states the big blob is
phoenix the smaller blob is tucson and zoom in a little bit here we have
phoenix whoops we have phoenix in tucson and then oracle state park is
just uh just about an hour north of tucson
and so a little better view a little community of oracle there's about three three thousand residents here
in a small little rural community and then the park is off to the east of the community
so here we have the community of oracle you come out mount limit highway leaving
oracle you turn into the park on wildlife drive
and you follow that for about a mile and you get over to where the historic canali ranch house is located
and we'll be doing lots of our star party activities in this area there's also a remote
area it's called the arizona trail walk-in area
and i'll have some pictures from there but that's out american avenue to the east of town
and then there's a little gate and road here that comes down to their area
so just a map from the park mount lemon road wildlife drive coming
over to the denali ranch house or american avenue up to the remote area
this is highway 77 that goes down into tucson there's actually two entrances
to oracle from the highway american avenue actually continues on out towards the
west and then intersects again with highway 77. so
a little closer view of the main part of the park wildlife drive there's this group use
area we'll talk a bit about that and then the ranch house gift shop area
so here's a satellite photograph of the ranch house pretty big complex
that was built back in the 1920s and later so when you get to visit this
you'll be able to actually get some tours of some of these places and then there's this group use area that's got
some structures and you'll see some photographs of that a little bit later we're anticipating that a lot of the
star party activities for setting up telescopes so be in this area
or potentially out in this area up here where the parking lot is and the patio
the road area again off of american avenue just follow a little road big parking lot
and a very nice pretty much unobstructed view of the horizon
so here we have the main entrance to the park with a visitor that we had out of the
park back in february uh where scott got to actually see what this park looked like and experience the
night sky from our wonderful park uh we have since uh turned this into a
permanent exhibit he's actually standing out there now permanently
and you notice it does say an ida international dark sky park we were the
first park in the arizona state park system to get that designation uh back
in the end of 2014 so we're very proud of that so this is the main parking lot way over
here at the end of the parking lot you can see the ranch house this is a panoramic view going from more or less
west to east through the northern horizon so you can see it's pretty flat out here
you've got a pretty nice almost all the way around 360 degree view of the sky
view to the south is blocked just a little bit by the catalina mountains mountain lemon
this is actually a view from where we are planning to build an observatory here at the park we're having
discussions now with the university of arizona and tucson about equipment
and building an observatory here so here is the park manager vince mcauliffe pounding a stake in where we're citing
out what the footprint is going to be for where the observatory is going to be and again you can see
doggone pretty nice view all the way around view to the east we have the galero
mountains these mountains are actually about 100 miles away
and between us and the mountains is the san pedro river valley which runs right up through
here this is a very well populated migratory path for
wildlife and birds so when you're out at the park you may see lots of activity
this is the group use area and just some structures here we can get out of the sun there is power out here so that
won't be a problem for you this is the remote area or the arizona
trail access area and you notice the sign out here says stargazing for astronomers when the park is closed this
area is open 24 hours a day so people can come out here and set up their telescopes or just set up a chair and
recliners and then serve our beautiful night sky this is what the parking lot panorama
looks like again going from more or less west to north to east
nice big flat structure and welcoming you to the oracle state park park is a forty thousand a four
thousand acre wildlife refuge it's a center for environmental education it is an international dark sky park and
we have this historic canali ranch house it is on the register of historic places
this is a view of the ranch house with the mountains in the background
and here we have a close-up of part of the ranch house or the main entrance into the ranch house
and the patio this was taken during a star party obviously we have some telescopes set up there we have some
musicians over here at the far end so this is typically what we do when we we have star parties out here we'll have
music we'll set up for people to dance during the music and then of course have some telescopes set
up inside the ranch house is a nice living room we do give talks down there uh fire
marshal says we can hold about 75 people in this room and along the wall there are all of
these paintings done by one of the residents of the ranch house
old residents and the group use area was this was taken during a star party
in the afternoon we had some solar telescopes set up so why is this keep happening uh solar telescopes set up and
you can see those there in that picture typical events that we have here
we have hiking on our trails we like to have musicians out on our trails so as
people are walking along they'll see 7-10 musicians at various spots along the trails
and yes we do have our musicians entertaining back at the ranch house here is vince mcauliffe the park manager
showing a visitor from south korea uh what one of the little gardens is like
right right outside the ranch house some scenes that you can see from
various spots around the ranch we have lots of these big boulders uh they're accessible from many of the trails
there's a little road runner sitting up here on top of that boulder some plants you know some blooming cactus and
thistles and again just some sort of scenery around the horizon this was uh from our celebration that's
being named as an international dark sky park so this was actually the unveiling of our sign that was going to be out
there at the gate so that was a very exciting event so what are you going to see at oregon
state park well obviously you're going to see a dark sky you're going to see this beautiful sky even if it's cloudy
and yes you're going to have an opportunity to see lots of critters so one thing you won't see
is a rising full moon because we're going to be out there when there is no moon in the sky but if you ever come
back to oracle state park and get out there for one of our full moon events watching that full moon rise over the
galero mountains is a pretty awesome site and there you can see some telescopes and cameras that were set up to
photograph that event if you set your eyeballs for a long
exposure you'll get some nice star trails over the canale ranch house obviously there's polaris
you'll see the milky way so here was a star party going on and there was a milky way overhead
and a shop from the parking lot a nice milky way so yes indeed you will see
milky way in all of its glory from morgle state park you can see the winter milky way in the
winter time so here's orion the winter milky way at one of our star parties
i was quite proud of this capture we had our musicians who played on into the night and there was the big dipper
overhead so that was a fun picture to get very cool
and you can see the zodiacal light here was venus one night during a star party and the cone
of light here was the zodiacal light so you can see that from oracle state
park and yes you can even see gay and shine one of those typical things that says you do need to have a nice dark sky
obviously this is a photograph that i took but the gig and shine can be visible
one thing you hope you won't see is this picture back in the summer of 2020 we have the
bighorn fire uh on mount lemon mount lemon is about 10 miles south of the park this fire
burned for almost a month 120 000 acres were burned this picture was actually taken from my
backyard i live about four miles to the west of the park the fire got to about three miles away
from me but what is interesting about this picture is not only do we have the smoke and the
flames and the burning parts of the mountain but up here is the omega centauri
globular cluster so you can see that from oracle state park
probably won't see it during september so late september it really wouldn't be visible but it is visible from the park
a little bit of clouds in the daytime you might see some sun dogs you can see obviously some pretty
sunsets here in arizona so from the park if we haven't have some clouds be certain to check out the sunsets
we had a star party going on one night and things were a little cloudy but we
partied on monsoon season will be winding down
about the middle of september but during the daytime you might see some monsoon storms kicking off with lots of rain
coming out of them and yes you might see some lightning from our monsoon storms
and more lightning and more lightning and yet even more lightning
so watch out for our monsoon storms uh they're certainly fascinating to see
uh they they're also very noisy lots of thunder and we can have some good strong winds when they happen but
again monsoon should be winding down and it should not really impact us but you might see that from oracle state park
of course storm passes through and you might get to see a double rainbow coming over
some other things you're going to see at the park lots of wildlife various hawks various birds woodpeckers hummingbirds
you'll see lots of birds here at the park they actually keep a list of what birds are seeing here at the park
so you'll see lots of birds you'll see some road runners even bringing you a little gift of the
lizard that the roadrunner caught might see some coil this was actually
taken from just outside of my observatory here on the west side of oracle but this little quail family came
up to me and i'll just run this little video
for a second i thought they were going to come over and check out my observatory
i think they're making sure that you don't go over and mess with them but daddy leads the way and then they
walk away so that's daddy uh they're at the top leading the way away from me the four little chicks and mama quail
lots of quail here and lots of other kind of birds raptors hawks uh owls uh
turkey vultures turkey vultures are here from the spring through september october time frame and then they migrate
back down to mexico but when they're flying they're very graceful they're an ugly looking bird when
they're on the ground they're very large but when you see them flying they're pretty impressive so turkey vulture
there on the bottom we're hoping to get this lady whose name is escaping me at the moment uh she will
bring in some raptors and let you see them up close and personal so we're hoping that she's going to give a talk
at the park during the star party you might see some little critters like
the uh the horn toad over here a nice little beaded lizard here
this is actually a baby gila monster this little baby
fortunately mama wasn't around when i got its picture he's about eight inches long mama is about two feet long
but they're a pretty impressive little lizard uh two feet long
if you see one of these stay out of their way this is a javelina
it's basically a wild pig it's a protected species here in arizona
but if you see mama and daddy and their babies
walking around definitely stay away from them because if they think their children are threatened they will attack you
their claws are very sharp and they have very sharp teeth and they will put you in a
hospital so if you see these walking around around sunset or even during the daytime or at nighttime stay away from
them you might see some of these little critters some tarantulas tarantulas are not poisonous so you
won't really have to worry too much about them you might see scorpions and you do want to avoid getting stung by
them because it will hurt you might see some deer lots of deer out
at oregon state park so keep your eyeballs open for the deer out there
you might see some of these little critters rattlesnakes we have lots of different types of snakes here at oracle
so do keep your eyeballs open many of the snakes are not poisonous but snakes like the rattlesnakes are and of course
you you may hear them doing their rattling although they're getting a little sneaky
they're actually using their rattles less now we've discovered so so watch out for the rattlesnakes when you're out walking around
pretty little coyote you'll see kite ladies here at the park you of course hear them
singing at sunset and into the evening occasionally so watch out for the
the coyotes the big dog kind of an animal but they're fun to say you'll see bunny rabbits we have lots of
little bunny rabbits around the park so say hello to the bunnies when you see them
occasionally you might see a little face like this looking at you through some cactus
that's a bobcat bobcats are about the size of a dog
a smaller dog medium-sized dog i guess i should say so if you see one of these uh wave at them say hi another view of a
bobcat uh bobcats have a little short tail that's why they're called bob the
tails actually appears to be bobbed um but pretty pretty cats
they're very pretty and another view of a bobcat so i like bobcats
these little guys are about the size of a chipmunk but they're called antelope
squirrels they're very antique they're very
running they run around a lot they play around a lot they're very curious
you'll see them sometimes looking like they're boxing like the pictures there on the left uh you'll see them hugging
each other and sometimes they'll look like they're kissing each other so they're fun to watch so if you do get to
see some of these little antelope squirrels as they're called watch them for a while they're
fun a little bit of history here i mentioned this uh last week uh last thursday on one of scott's
shows back in 1916 a donation was made anonymously to the
university of arizona and sixty thousand dollars so the university could buy and a big telescope
and set up an astronomical observatory after the donor passed away it was
revealed that her name was lavinia steward and she was from oracle
so steward observatory part of the university of arizona and tucson
was started with her original donation an oracle resident part of our history here in oracle so we have a good
astronomical history a plug at the start party in september i'm
going to be giving a talk on smartphone astrophotography so if you like doing uh astrophotography
and you're not into the high-end imagers come and check out what you can do with a smartphone
a gratuitous plug explorer scientific is going to be selling my autobiography that was
published last year uh through their website so when you go up to register
for the event on their website you can also select to purchase my book through them and i the the books will be coming to me
then i'll autograph them and provide them to the attendees at the star party
uh all the proceeds from the sale of the star party uh or the bulgar proceeds will be going to explore scientific
offsets the cost of the star party here that they're putting out so check that
out some websites uh oregonstatepark azstateparks.com
oracle visit oracle which you'll hear more about later on in a future session is
visit oracle.org and biosphere 2 is biosphere2.org
with that i will end
and are there any questions i just have a comment mike it's a great talk uh
that uh sixty thousand dollar donation in 1916 that has a value of one and a
half million dollars in today's dollars yeah yeah it was a pretty big deal back then
um there were many people who settled in oracle in the early 1900s
after indian uprisings were pretty much resolved uh they came out here for their health you know they had tuberculosis
they lived in the east and so they came out here for their health they became ranchers uh they had
tens of thousands of acres of ranch land uh and of course they you know they sold
all that beef and they made lots of money uh there's other people that came out here for the copper mining
so many people who those early settlers out here
they made lots of money oh great
yeah how much do you have much trouble with rattlesnakes at night observing no
when i go out to my observatory i rarely see them at night around sunset you might see them
kind of spiraled up in fact i almost stepped on one one night i was trying to
frame a monsoon storm that was off to the north with my observatory in the foreground foreground so i was backing
up holding my camera and then i said well this has got a dumb i might trip over a cactus so i turned around looked
down at my feet and there was a round snake so do be careful
all right well that's great um so
yeah a lot of people get kind of a little bit freaked out because of snakes or things that sting or whatever
uh you know you just uh anytime you go out to where um you know you're in the wilderness you need to watch where
you're going you know and uh respect wildlife so uh the most dangerous animal out there
though is you so yes yeah uh they they respect you as well so yes they do
just keep your distance from them and you won't have any problems right okay can i say something scott of course
i remember when i was moving from reno nevada back to texas and i was on interstate 40 there coming
out of las vegas and it was it was during the fall time
or may no wait a minute it was during the winter going into the springtime i
remember i was on interstate 40 and everything looked normal when i got to arizona
it looked like somebody had painted everything with a crystal ice
that's what it looked like this monsoon this cold monsoon come through there and just covered everything in ice
and i couldn't believe it i didn't know that things like that happened there well yeah the hailstorms that we can get
out of the monsoons here are pretty impressive i mean everything was
everything was iced over the the you know the grass the cactuses the sand
everything was just ice and i couldn't believe it i thought i was looking at something in some kind of fantasy land or something it was weird
well and certainly in the winter time we get snow here here in oracle um i've seen it where we've gotten
uh typically four to five inches but we've occasionally gotten up to a foot of snow here in the foothills of the
catalina mountains tom we call that tuesday
huh it was like somebody had took a painting right of the desert and just painted it
with ice that's what it looks like and it and it's never left the back of
my mind you know after seeing something like that so and then after i after i left there i
went on to go see the you know the crater you know they're in uh
new mexico and they're going yeah yeah yeah winslow arizona meteor
freedom yeah it's right there off interstate you know 40. so yep yep where it was so
it just let that photograph or that image in my mind is set in stone and i can't i can't i
always remember it when i when i'm driving through there now i want to see it again but it's never there it's
always this one particular time that i've seen that you know well certainly arizona is known for making memories so
come to the david h levy arizona dark sky you'll get more
yeah okay all right so up next um uh we will be bringing on
young astronomer connell richards who has been making many presentations on
global star party he was with us last sunday night as we were observing
the lunar eclipse and i really loved his presentations and his presentation style
uh connell is an amazing outreach ambassador in his own right and uh we're
glad to have him on the 94th global star party connell it's all yours man all right thank you very much for having
me on tonight um as you know i was on sunday night and with the theme of transformations this
tuesday it'd only be fitting to talk about a very recent transformation we recently witnessed over a couple of
hours i remember i was on that broadcast and and i joined for a little bit at the beginning i was popping in and outside i
had my tripod outside with my camera and we had some thunderstorms all day so
the humidity was you know up in 80 90 very high and the ground was all damp
and i i thought you know you know i'm not going to get too lucky tonight with the scene conditions and my
viewing but the the clouds cleared up perfectly i kept moisture off the optics for the most part and it worked out just
fine i managed to get shots of almost the full eclipse uh there was a wall of clouds that came in
uh probably close to two in the morning only ten minutes away from the partial phase ending so i got shots of pretty
much the whole eclipse and i couldn't be more grateful for that it was one of the greatest lunar eclipses i've ever seen
i've seen two other total eclipses and it was certainly a dark one as many other observers noted
and i'll be sharing a couple images with you tonight that i captured uh during that time
so i'll start with sharing my screen here is my audio and video okay for you
absolutely good
how's this going to act up on me give me just a moment
i think for some reason the uh oh here we go my photo app on my computer has been
messing around with me a little bit anyway this is just around the start of the eclipse you can see the partial phase
starting to come in and i was experimenting with a couple different exposures and uh iso's i kept
it pretty low and pretty short i found that i could do a higher exposure or a
longer exposure with a higher iso and the moon would be pretty much completely white but you would see a more defined
shadow but here it seems if i zoom in a little bit and i'm just noticing this now you can see sort of the penumbral shadow
along here perhaps some of that um if if i'm not mistaking that for the
uh darker mario over on the west here but certainly without a doubt here you
have the darker shadow of the earth starting to stretch over the moon and come over for
its its long stay over a couple of hours now when this eclipse was starting to rise when the full moon was starting to
rise before the partial phase began i want to say it was about 10 or 12 degrees off the horizon and there were all these clouds really low i got a
couple of other shots where it looks like something out of a halloween movie or a horror movie
and it was a classic full moon rising scene but then the eclipse started and the clouds cleared up the moon came a
little higher up in the atmosphere so i didn't have so much turbulence i got some beautiful shots like that
and i'll go to the next one here this is certainly one of my favorite shots
much deeper into the eclipse here this is just before totality began and to my eye over on the eastern limb of the moon
there was this little slice this little crescent not even touching the poles here was more almost like a banana kind of shape
and you can see that orange that dark brown shadow is creeping across and i could see that sliver shrinking it
reminded me of the the total eclipse i saw in 2017 the solar eclipse where you
can see that piece of the sun just shrinking away and here it is with the roles reversed here's the moon
and it's light kind of fading away you'll also notice there are these three stars here
and sky and telescope was reporting i noticed that this star up here i don't remember exactly what it was called it
was one of the catalog designations for hd that star eventually got occulted for
some part of the country in my case this star in the center of these three it's a double star
sixth and eighth magnitude but of course you can really see the sixth kind of pushing that into my camera's view
that later ended up being occulted and i'll show you a nice video sequence of that later on but again this is one of my favorite
images you have this pearl of light over on the east of the that last bit of sunshine before it gets blocked by the
earth and then that dark hazy brown starting to come in and obscure the rest of the moon and you can even see some of
the curvature here which is a really nice aspect of that shot that i like so i'll go next here this is back into
totality now and you can see that other star i talked about earlier is closer and the moon is just such a deep brown
color uh with other eclipses i'd seen the first one i saw was in september of 2015
and that was a little bit of a lighter color if i remember i wasn't so involved in astronomy then but i remember uh
watching that one and it was a little a little less dark
and then the next one i saw was martin luther king day in 2019 and that eclipse that was
um that was a moderate one i think i placed it at danjon 2.5 or something like that
and i remember going out into the driveway and we had just had an ice storm here so i was using my binoculars
as almost a walker and then eventually i i laid back against this ice bank this
snow bank at the end of the driveway with my binoculars and tried to get some pictures with my phone and they came out
okay it was something cool to share with friends but this really blew it away and i was proud of how it came out
again this is during totality uh shortly after it began the end got cut off a little bit by some clouds
but almost up here out in the ocean of storms you can see there's that dark center of the shadow
and i think there is somewhat of a gradient there uh the moon is in totality again but there's still some white down here you
can see tycho's ray system stretching up just a little bit over here and then it just gets so dark over here
from those volcanoes we've had recently and i've been wondering if some local brush fires i've had in pennsylvania and
of course the much larger wildfires in new mexico have had some influence on the color of this eclipse
but we'll move back out here this is coming back out of eclipse uh similar to the shot i had before and like i said if
i did a longer exposure or a longer time the the white part of the moon or the uh
unobscured part would be much brighter and you couldn't see anything there but here you can see almost an earth shine
feature with everything else lit up on the moon there's copernicus right there or i think it's
actually right there aristarchus up here we were looking at that crater during the webcast sunday
night and then tycho down here you can start to see that ring just as it's hanging on before the full light of the
sun comes back there aren't many other stars or any other actually in this image
but it does show a really nice uh kind of earth shine perspective and a good curvature of the earth's shadow you can
see how big it is and it's really surprising how big that is compared to the disc of the moon which we associate
as being one of the the largest objects uh that we see with our uh with our eyes in the sky
and finally coming out of eclipse a similar shot to the one i began with you can see that shadow is kind of fuzzy a
little bit turbulent there and this had to be maybe around 1 30 or 145 my local time about 15 minutes
before the eclipse ended still you can see some of the uh features here some of the bright craters
and their ray systems and that shadow just eating a huge chunk out of the moon uh before it leaves us
before the next eclipse i think that's in november so i'll go back out here and i wanted to
get a nice sequence those first five images i saw maybe i'll put them together in a mosaic at one point
but this is my favorite shot without a doubt after totality uh just after
totality as the partial phase is starting to come back you can still see that deep brown color yeah i absolutely want to hang on the
wall that's incredible oh my goodness i agree look at that
i mean like i said it was kind of like a like a halloween scene almost like something you'd see in you know one of those old movies uh but this is this was
a beautiful shot this was an iso of 3200 and a two second exposure time you can kind of see that in the clouds moving
but not too much they're blocking out a part of the moon in a more artistic way i think i think the clouds actually
added to it in this case without a doubt yeah and when totality was starting to
end um this came across in some of the pictures i think there was this brownish glow on
the clouds kind of like you have for the lunar halo but it was a much darker reddish color and that was a really cool
effect that i've never seen yeah there you see the clouds are eating away i think you could sell that and
help put your way through college i'd certainly love to i've even thought
about submitting i'll help you thank you thank you yeah that's amazing yeah even i can chime in
and say sorry about that yeah that's kind of what i was going for because
in the few seconds i had to try and view the lunar eclipse from vegas it was coming
in and out of clouds i could see it with my eyes but i had a smaller focal length
lens so i made do with what i could but um
yeah that's that's done really well with that great great preparation
and getting all those shots in the beginning then when the clouds show up you um you were able to capture all of
it i'm looking through some images now to see if i have something like that i
doubt it'll be even as much as detailed as what you've got so
kudos and we're glad somebody was able to see it well thank you very much i mean i think
it there was some preparation involved but definitely a lot of luck without a doubt um
because i i saw this eclipse you know just starting to end and there's these clouds there and all night during
totality i've been shooting exposures of two seconds for a 3200 iso
and um this this just happened to be one of them and i went back through i think i
shared the raw image during the webcast sunday night and the cloud effects look really cool but when i boosted the
contrast a little bit i kind of darkened some of the clouds just played around with the image a little bit i mean the
the framework was there already i got this beautiful image and it's without a doubt one of my favorites
you can see the other stars there there's some stars there's clouds you can see some of the reflection on the
clouds and some of the haze in the atmosphere in some of the images i had earlier
i kept getting sort of a reflection if i did too high of an iso or too long of an exposure and it would look like another
moon was superimposed here i might have that in one of the other images hopefully i can hide that enough but
this this worked out just perfectly with all the settings and the brightness covered you can see the clouds are blocking the brighter part of the moon
and uh it just all came together right place right time i would say and can i sign here
sure i have produced so many images
astronomical images that every once in a while you have that moment that just comes where all the settings
are just lined up perfectly not by something you did but just by
accident and you end up with something like this you know something you'd never do again right
i mean go ahead i'd love to repeat it but that that kind
of moment you talk about where you have all the right settings in the right location that's i'd say that's happened to me
maybe once before and it's my background image here i was camping at a local state park and um
maybe i can minimize the photo app here there was a campfire down here lighting up the trees and just giving them a bit
of a breeze with the heat rising you get the stars trailing it was a beautiful night in july
but uh this eclipse that i was thinking something funny i what i
wonder what humanity back in the 15th century would have thought about an image like that probably dracula's death
moon or something it looks like i should almost put a little clip art of a bat over that you
know for a movie trailer exactly what i'm talking about yeah it's dracula's death moon that's what
they would be calling it right without any knowledge of what they're actually talking about
so it's just it's just one of those rare occasions that i've had too and it just happens
and it's not something you do it's just the conditions the atmosphere everything just goes down a path and and when you really
think about it you're not in control of any of it it just happens you know what i mean the camera is working perfectly
your mouth's working perfectly and the atmosphere is all all in play and then boom you got something you know
and you go out in the world but i ever do that again when you look back at it right it's all about showing up and
having some skills yeah i know you guys got yeah it's all about the interest and all about uh the determination to get it
right that's right
yeah i'm sure there are some people on here who will contend this but i actually have to thank the clouds for once for
providing me with a nice image earlier thank the clouds you know it's one of those moments where the clouds just fell
into place too with this appearance you know so it was like
you know i have an image i have an image of the constellation andromeda
with the clouds over the top of it and when i when i processed it it looked like
the whole constellation was in flames because the clouds end up being an orange red color
you know and i would when you look at it you go how in the world did that happen
and it's so beautiful when you look at it right so it's just something odd that comes out
of nowhere you know that you're not expecting so exactly yeah wonderful
the eclipse was starting to i'll go on to the next shot here the eclipse was starting to finish out the moon was a much paler color
and this was this was kind of a hard shot to manage with exposure times and the lighting uh there was a little bit
of a lunar halo here um you can see that just the last chunk of shadow is starting to go away and
these darker clouds this was one of the last shots i got of the night those darker clouds there was just a huge wall
of them coming over and there were some thunderstorms a couple hours later about 9am the next morning
but that was kind of my final shot my farewell to the eclipse and again it i really tried to work with
that cloud effect there were some cool halos popping in and out i didn't notice any moon dogs in particular i'm not sure
i was looking for them exactly but um the halo was really beautiful but i'll go back here i got a couple of
landscape shots that turned out just wonderfully here was one of my favorites
and um for me at least my brightness is a little bit low the the moon there it is there's these
three stars and i walked down the street and there were a couple of trees just over a nearby forest
and uh scorpius was coming up over here i don't know if you can see antares and some of
the other stars and the claws there but it was such a dramatic image one that i thought i'd never be able to get
and it just worked out tremendously i tried some later
here i was looking through the trees just getting a branch going right through the moon a couple of stars
nearby some foreground when i was playing around with the exposure in photoshop i could find that
i captured just enough light you could capture like white or brown bark in the trees and some of the green leaves coming in for the summer um and i don't
think i have that too much here i kind of made them more shadowed but the color of the moon is what i really wanted to focus on and it just was a beautiful
scene and and you never really think about it because this is what our eye normally sees of course minus that red color we
see a full moon we see trees in the landscape we might see a couple of stars or our surroundings but when you go to shoot that it's
actually very difficult because the moon is so bright the surroundings are are not and you have real you really have a hard
time managing those exposures but when the moon is much darker and it's blending into that background more
simon was even saying that you know he wouldn't notice if he weren't looking for it wouldn't notice the moon up
and that makes for some really it makes it much easier to get these nicer shots
and um i keep hitting the wrong arrow i'll go to a final landscape shot here
um this reminded me of a story kareem was telling me and i think telling us and he
shared that again tonight one of the scandinavian stories about the two jaguars circling around and one would
eat the moon and spit it out one would eat the sun and spitting out and spit it out and they would trade places and i
thought that tree looked a little bit like that kind of gobbling up the moon here just some branches over on the eastern
limb and it turned out to be a really beautiful image again there's some stars over there it was really nice to capture
both the moon and stars the background stars in the same image because normally you're either shooting
a nightscape during a new moon or when the moon is not in the sky or you're just focused on the moon at least that's
that's what i do with my camera but here we have both of them all in the same shot and it's something really fortunate
that you don't get too much only during these lunar eclipses uh again i'll close out uh this was the
image sequence i talked about earlier you can see right here there are these three stars this was that double star i
mentioned that the moon occulted at least from my location it was a little bit different across the country and across where this eclipse was observed
this is 10 frames here and here comes the moon just coming to eat up that star
i'll play it again for you wasn't anything too miraculous
probably the brightest occultation i've witnessed actually because i remember seeing one of the 7th magnitude scar
star recording that through my telescope but i never photographed one so it was cool to get that i did the best i could
with centering the moon and getting a little bit of a movie together and and that was a really nice way to
a really nice feature of the eclipse you know a little bit of a bonus to an already spectacular event
and i said on the broadcast sunday night that total solar eclipses are commonly held up
as as these spectacular events perhaps the best in astronomy and it's very hard to argue with that but
some of these total lunar eclipses they're just rare events but not too rare you know every two two or three
years you get one in your location they're always spectacular events without a doubt always very beautiful
great opportunities for astronomy for looking at impacts for looking at occultations they're
great photography targets great subjects and then of course in the telescope and with pair of binoculars they are
stunning as well so it's a really nice balance between a more rare event where it feels more like
a treat versus something that's a lot more available to you and nice to photograph and share with
others and as scott mentioned earlier uh youth outreach is very important we were talking a lot about the value of
outreach these lunar eclipses i know they turn out so many people and they're a great opportunity
for us as amateur astronomers and even professionals to reach out to the public and talk about
the transformation in the cosmos and and things that um they can witness in real
time because we normally think of the night sky as something that's static and that nothing could be farther from the
truth so this is a really nice event to share with the public for sure and hopefully with the coming lunar eclipses
and even the solar eclipse in 2024 uh they provide us with some more opportunities to share something with
the public and get some more people involved in astronomy so i'll leave you with this image again one of my
favorites with the clouds and the total lunar eclipse just leaving us and thank you very much for having me on
i always enjoy sharing my photography and my stories with outreach hopefully all of you got a good chance
to observe and hopefully you have a good night thank you that's great thank you so much hey scott
yes could you do me a favor in the messenger i sent you an image i wanted to share
that with him the one that i was talking about about andromeda being in the cloud
it's so beautiful i wanted him to see this and let him know exactly why why i
understand his photo because sometimes the clouds can work in your favor on
certain things that's right i'll do that here in a moment but uh up next is uh dr caitlin aarons she's been waiting
patiently to talk about the um planetary decadal survey and uh
kate uh caitlin are you uh i see that you're back there hello
here you are okay i i did want to mention that uh caitlyn was on our live program she did
a program called seven months of science you can still see that on youtube and
facebook and she did a great job brought some amazing scientists to him but she's an
amazing scientist herself she's a doctoral fellow at
goddard space flight center she researches the planets she is an expert on the ices
of planets and but it's only fitting that she would give us this presentation
so katelyn i'm gonna turn it over to you well whenever i got the email about uh
the the theme of transformations i'm like oh yes i can do this uh because the
planetary decadal survey is completely transforming
what we're going to do next uh so uh every branch of nasa you have your
planetary and astrobio division your heliophysics division and your astrophysics division and all of them
have their own decadal surveys um so our planetary one just got
released about three weeks ago we're still combing through it because it is over
700 pages long of a pdf i and it is completely free uh freely
available and uh and i'll happy to share the link as well uh so it take it does take a
while to download all 700 some pages though so you know be nice to your computer uh but i'll
tell you what we were all holding our breath whenever it the release date was coming about and to
the point where the website crashed for several hours uh because we were all trying to download
a 700 some page pdf at the same time wow who knew
i but this is our very it's our third decadal survey and so decadal as the
name means it's every 10 years uh so our third one so our first one was
from 2003 to 2013. second one was from 2013 to 2022
and now we're finally getting into 2022 wish to
uh well whenever but
i've been in meetings all day i can win ever whenever plus 10 years it'll be fine 2032. uh but
the interesting part about the decatur is that it is very much a a road map and
so it's based off of what we planetary scientists bring
to what's called our ags so our ags are our assessment groups our assessment
groups then talk to several other organizations like the national academy of sciences they're they're the main
brain behind this little decadal survey and then that's kind of a pipeline to congress and that way congress kind of
gives uh uh you know this is kind of our heartbeat of like okay what are planetary scientists interested in the
next 10 years so it's us writing a bunch of white papers and if you don't know what a
white paper is a white paper is about five ish some pages
a love letter essentially i'm just like i want to study this because it's really
pretty and it's really cool and that was funding pretty pretty please
you try to do that in five pages worth it it can you know drawn on a bit though but we had hundreds and hundreds of
white papers i and it was like trading cards too i myself have written a few of
them uh but then you had colleagues who would write them and then we would kind of go like oh can you sign sign my white
paper as a signatory and i'll sign yours and it's so it's a it's a huge uh training
around of of signatures and like do you support what i'm trying to write here and do you support this and that and and
so on so it's it took two years to gather all
of those white papers to then form the 700 page uh monstrosity
that is the decadal survey but it gives an idea as to what do we
find interesting now in the next 10 years uh so if anybody is
a mercury level or a lover out there sorry mercury got
axed uh so that doesn't mean that there won't be funding for people who would want to do
mercury science um you know messenger is no longer a mission but we still have a
lot of data from messenger i you know betty columbo is on its way but
that is not a us-based mission either
so anybody who wants to do mercury it's like okay you know good good for you
but it's not high priority so you know play your cards right
i but i can i can attempt to share uh the 500 page
let's hope it doesn't blow up though okay awesome great okay so
origins worlds in life so this is the the three trifecta naming uh that they
use for this decadal survey um notice that we have planetary science and astrobiology we are all one division
here um national academy of sciences uh we're gonna skip through all the front matter here which is uh um you
know congratulations to the committee members especially robin and philip here so they
were they had to combine all of these white papers and then it come up with all of these panels and
panelists uh and uh different subsystems i i myself got to listen in on
ocean worlds and a little bit about the moon sorry mercury uh
nice nice beautiful panel about venus especially with veritas and vichy coming
up uh let's see here i'm gonna actually just kind of skip
down here we go so i just here's the lovely table of contents i
kind of deal and by all means i'm not going to go through this entire thing uh but the the first part of it kind of
goes through as to why do we even have this decadal in the first place uh
what do we a transformative decade so scott you've had the right topic for me
to talk about this tonight uh priority science questions i'll show that here in a bit
but then it really breaks down the solar system between the trifecta here of oh i
already skipped it so the trifecta of origins worlds and life so origins
meaning how did our solar system even begin so we're talking about accretion disks we're talking about how did um
certain planets form uh planetary nebula how did certain chemistry or certain materials ices
how do they all form and come about the second theme is worlds and processes
so it's what's happening right now uh we know that there's i
beautiful volcanic systems which is what i work on on other planets but how do they form are any of them still active i
what kind of materials and chemistry are we working on there uh we want to go to titan with dragonfly
so what what kinds of cool stuff have i had at titan which is really really such
a beautiful outer planet there on the moon and then i then the third one is life
inhabitability uh so that's kind of combining past present and future
what kind of habitability and organic life may have happened
in the pre-solar nebula are there any tiny critters
in space currently and then what's the future uh of uh you know trying to figure out
all the technology and stuff there's something else that was
interesting that has not been added fairly recently exoplanets got added for
the first time last decadal um because exoplanets we got better with our technology
uh and we're continuing to be better with our exoplanetary technology especially with
jwst coming up that's going to be great but something of of note here that was
very new to this decadal that it's a step it's not perfectly written i there's
still some plot holes in it but it state of the profession so how can we as
scientists be better about biases um so bias and how do we make
sure that we have early career researchers involved how do we make sure that we're retaining
um those early career researchers of any walk of life um and so
having those kinds of biases noted now as like this needs to be a
priority one of nasa's fairly recent core values that was just added not too
long ago is inclusivity and so having this state of the profession
um and how can we be better about inclusivity uh is is really quite fascinating that
hooray it got added to the decadal ah let's see here um
earlier in the stream i'm not sure if it got recorded or not though but earlier uh this evening we were talking about
planetary defense and uh watching out for comments and asteroids and stuff so yes there's a whole section here there's
a whole chapter just on that hooray uh so anything from uh detection and then
how do we make this into a better international collaboration because obviously if you just
only use the telescopes in the us you're obviously not gonna get all of your targets so how can we have better
detection and tracking of objects asteroids comets interstellar objects whatever
how can we better be prepared on an international level and use telescopes
around the world to help us with this tracking so that beautiful a long chapter with that
uh human exploration you know we're wanting to put boots on the ground on the moon very soon yay
i so we're kind of getting back into what our priorities for human exploration
i and it's it's not as easy we we were very strict through the apollo
program which is you know obviously very great for safety reasons but now that
our technology is better we want to put boots on the ground again with the artemis
uh missions what else do we need to be prepared for
what else do we need to be wary of we want to send uh our next round of
astronauts to the south pole there's a lot of interesting hazards that we never really had to deal with with the apollo
missions before so now it's our job to realize what could those
hazards be and by hazards i mean the most terrible hazard is
lunar dust uh because it just gets everywhere and then um how cold it can be
on that part of the moon uh so communications uh could also be uh
a bit of a trial and error kind of deal and then kind of gets into the
a little bit of technology here i so let's see let's go to page five here oh yes there's planetary
defense here so dart um that is already launched now this is the double asteroid
redirection um test it's gonna kinda bonk right into didymos
i think september 2022 maybe i
okay so priorities here so you have different kinds of tiers of nasa
missions uh the the big shiny one is having a discovery uh mission so discovery missions um
typically about 700 million and i believe yeah so they're wanting to increase it now to 800 million so that
would be really nice so um some examples of discovery missions would be the lunar
reconnaissance orbiter or the insight mission uh the seismometer on mars
um there's also the da vinci and veritas venus missions those are also discovery
uh the next round is the new frontiers program so uh second best stole quite a bit of uh
money uh to be sure but new frontiers you're dealing with much longer
distances with new frontiers on a much shorter budget so we're talking horizons we're talking juno we're talking
dragonfly so those would be new frontiers i next up would be oh yeah so there's
different tears yeah uh so this this is where the fun part came
in this is where all of us were kind of holding our breath for is what's the priority for the big shiny missions in
the next decade and the the very first one i'm super happy about it's a uranus orbiter and
probe get your uranus jokes out of the way because i'm gonna hear them for the next decade
i can you know i'm off my twitter is already popping up with with uranus jokes
already and i'm like okay well you know what it's already getting the public excited in a weird way why not um but
it's definitely a priority for a flagship mission i am so excited uh so this could be an
orbiter uh there might be uh some sort of just probe into it that's going to be
great ah the second highest priority is also going to be a little interesting this is an enceladus orbit lander
uh which i'm pretty sure they just made up that word because it just sounds really cool um but
seriously it sounds like something out of a sci-fi book and i love it uh so orbit lander um
to have an orbiter and then a lander combo and then communications between
the two but the lander would essentially uh sample bits and pieces
uh of enceladus
sorry did you have a question a single image
a carry-on i think okay i
yeah anyways i so so flagships i are gonna be an interesting part in this too
i'm not sure if flagships even showed up just yet uh yeah so essentially just going through
like all the beautiful priorities and stuff um so the thing about discovery and new
frontiers is that you have a pi or what's called a primary
investigator uh to lead the mission so uh for example
new horizons was led by dr alan stern uh from west research institute
uh or like lro has a very specific pi as
well flagships are just because they're un they're just
slightly under budget they're they're supposed to last and last and last much
much longer and so those don't have a single pi they instead have a team
of people so flagship missions would be considered cassini or voyager
missions they weren't run by a single leader they were run by a
uh a management team to then have sub groups uh at the ready
of like hey we need we need to go through this i so this decadal though is really
really quite interesting of like what's been done oh i just uh there was a a bit of cassini there
there's cassini rest in peace casini there oh goodness gracious uh osiris-rex
uh is coming back let's see let's see i'm trying i wrote down like
pdf numbers because this thing is humongous
all right so we i have an early version too the newer
version probably has much better images uh i just try to get it as
early as i possibly can before this website crashed all right yeah so this is this is another big chapter for us
planetary people what are the priority questions what do we need to be focusing on
uh and so they i had a pretty good idea as to what we
want to really look forward to so life inhabitability planetary processes um
and solar system origin so this is where our our trifecta really comes from with some minor eye details with
exoplanets impact hazards and human exploration why these are much smaller though the
thing about exoplanets is that exoplanets is also part of the astrophysics division and the
heliophysics division so they're kind of very spread in um
with uh within the planetary communities uh so this is essentially a culmination
of all the actual planetary ads which are like down
here so league i is the lunar exploration
assessment group maps it is i believe
sample return me peg is mars opac is outer planets
s bag is is a small bodies so all of you asteroid and comet lovers out there
that's that's for s bag mech sag is mercury and then backside for venus so
i yeah so having all of these ads talk to each other um
really took months and months and months to try to get all these white papers put together
i have all of these grand questions that then get deeper and deeper and deeper
uh in like the next 500 some pages and and whatnot
but i mean like i said this is very much free to peruse
by at your disposal just google national academy of sciences uh
decadal survey and it'll pop up i or at least the website will pop up
and then you need to actually download it uh but another cool thing too is that on
that same website you can read everybody's white papers if you want to know a very specific
priority or you're like oh you know what i want to read only white papers about
uh mars sample return um marsh sample return is is a really really big project coming up
uh and a really big priority so that's going to be interesting if you only read want to read write white papers on those
you can feel free to if you want to i read any of if you applied
here's mine mine's mostly laboratory work
uh but i mean the list is here and then they're all available on that same uh national
academy of sciences website as well uh completely free to download no fees or anything i
it's it's really quite interesting um as well that i want to bring up this point too is that
the decadal survey doesn't seem to be well conveyed to the general public
and i think that's a bit of a mistake there because this is like
mostly speaking the us folks here though but this is your tax dollars as a roadmap for us scientists to focus on
and so i think having a decadal survey is fantastic because it keeps us busy
keeps us well out of trouble but
i think that the cable survey in itself should be more enthusiastically brought about to
the public as to like this is what we want no one could have more enthusiastically
presented this than than you so i i really am very very happy that you
brought this i would agree to the global star party oh it's it's a it's a fantastic uh road
map to be sure and by all means i i realize that it's a complete just wall of text though but if you really want to
just kind of hang out and sit down and go like oh you know this is where they're prioritizing
that's interesting you could use it as an interesting educational resource um there's also ways to um get the
previous decade when you can compare and contrast i the previous decadal really honed in
on the mars sample return um it honed in on venus it also honed in on neptune
well we got two out of the three i neptune no longer on this particular list
because we lost our window of opportunity to get there with a a
her trajectory uh so neptune is is like quickly out of
our grasp at the moment so neptune's probably gonna have to wait uh for a little while until it gets to
the next decade but hooray at least we have we have uranus so one of the two ice giants
hey we're doing good i we just need to prioritize ourselves and just kind of
go about like oh no uh another interesting i kind of like hold the breath moment uh
too in that wall of text that i showed to was what missions
continue to be funded this is our way it's almost like watching if like your
favorite show on netflix just got cancelled it's very much the same similar effect where it's like oh
my mission just get defunded oh no and so you're kind of holding your breath like please still be funded
please still be funded please don't be funded it's like a tv guide to the universe
yeah very very much uh at least just for the next 10 years i now
what's interesting is that thankfully a lot of missions were able to be
continued so new horizons got continued lunar reconnaissance orbiter got continued the mars sample return even
even it's it's not even really a concrete thing funding is still being continued great
i we did lose one uh particular instrument though but i
don't recall if it was part of the planetary decadal or it's going to be part of the astrophysics decadal
but this announcement was just made not too long ago uh but alas we are losing the sofia
telescope oh yeah that beautiful infrared camera in the sky
i that was on uh boeing 747. i we uh we unfortunately i
don't have enough funding to keep it going and so it's going through its last round of uh
just proposals for astronomers and then it's getting decommissioned so
anybody a fan of sofia out there send us love who because it's uh yep it's it's gone
maybe it could be for sale and that we could do like a uh you know um
we'll fly the plane ourselves global star party astronomers formerly known as sophia now global star party
air we just need to find a pilot and we'll just do it ourselves and we'll keep it
going you know imaging at that altitude though i mean you get some beautiful astrophotography
yeah it brings tears to my eyes even thinking about it because there's so much more
i imagine in like a fraction of the time that we take the image through
the um atmosphere here it would almost be like pow and you'd end up getting
the same image it's like you could get a deeper image with less effort up there
you know using using sofia so um maybe maybe in the future
see if something maybe sky if you can pull it off gsp air and we got to do it but i did
want to comment i was happy to see that the uranus mission not uranus not
all the other pronunciations i had read somewhere that sometimes if the general public
you know goes crazy and laughs about they're sticking to proven uranus and that somehow that
turns the mission into not funded because it's not taken seriously i'm glad to see that
we somehow got through that and that it there will at least one ice giant you know uranus for those watching it's
pronounced uranus it's also has a uderness i think it has it has an
official pronunciation um and i forget what language um
but either way we're glad we get to revisit it yeah
and see those rings again that'll be that'll be some exciting science i actually have a question along with that
um when do you know caitlin when that particular probe or that mission
would be scheduled for oh goodness uh
probably not until the later part of the decade the thing about the decadal is
that as long as it's prioritized even if it hasn't launched yet it's not like this
is a set time limit of like you need to launch within the next 10 years no
there's there's no way i but as long as at least someone has the ball rolling
and maybe almost to launch within the 10 years you're safe you're good uh so as long as
someone gets the ball rolling within the next 10 years then then we're good uh
yeah well that's yeah as long as it's on the it's on the slate and we you know
we're glad we're glad you answered our questions you hear you hear from us lay folks and
folks that are just interested in astronomy what are they doing about asteroids coming in and you just
answered that question beautifully scientists do know your concerns you're going through the process to make
it happen and and that's that's where global star party perfect place to
those of you who are in the field and you have the answer translating it to the general public
is something like global star party and it's a perfect that's how we do it so thank you for bringing that to our
attention so really enjoyed the presentation thank you and and yeah i mean and this is what i i meant too is
that i wish the i the decadal was was more publicly announced
uh because i think it would be wonderful for the public to know like okay
what are we nerding about for the next 10 years uh uh you know
boots on the ground we want to pick up rock samples on mars we want to send a probe to uranus and
maybe a orbit lander on enceladus uh europa clipper is is doing very well
thankfully um so what many of you may not know out there though so europa clipper actually had some funding issues
i so thankfully it's on track it's fine i
and uh yeah so what happened though what many people may not realize is that not every
mission goes to its own pocket of money uh so
there's different tiers uh or how we like to call the different pots of gold
for the missions and so poor europa clipper was actually trying to salvage bottom of the barrel
from the perseverance river which went over budget so flipper was like
please survey i have some more very twists there so right now it's
doing fine it got back up on its funding uh so everything's fine we're scheduled
it's good for europa clippers yay yeah and i think one challenge becomes
because your enthusiasm shows it this stuff is exciting one of the challenges is to take it to a public
that may not choose to see it as it's more exciting than the
next football game or their baseball team and make it you know i'm i'm wearing a you know the
university which of course is involved in a lot of astronomy science as well so
you know i'm i wish i had taken astronomy i took computer engineering i learned about astronomy late in life but
that's and i think again global star party it's where we're we're trying to translate so that we can
share the importance of what is being done in science and it's like it's not just
you know we're having fun out here there are some things we're trying to learn that um that do benefit mankind in the
end it may be it it may still be fun there's nothing wrong with that we like looking into space others like
to worry about their problems but in the end there may be something important that we end up learning because of it we
learn about our own home planet so that it's an ongoing battle um
and like i'll talk about sharing that eclipse image with the bowlers that i was at when i get to my uh section but
uh definitely uh worthwhile to hear you know all the scientists got
that you can pull on the gsp the better because we're helping bridge a gap sure
so thank you again caitlin thank you oh thank you and thank you scott for for
letting me know thank you very much oh servant i should say dr aaron's i give you give
you the title dr eric you earned you know all absolutely that earn it you know so
all right all right everyone well what we're going to do now is we're going to take about a 10 minute break or so uh so it's time to
go get that sandwich for a cup of coffee take a break and we're coming back with
marcelo souza down in brazil so stay tuned
hey tom really quick that was a very nice image of orion that's not one you see every day i saw
it you know what happened was that was done on 2015.
i shot it at an iso of 200 151 seconds which was two minutes well
two and a half minutes and what i did was i just went out there and set up my camera got it polar
aligned and just had the camera just popping off of an image and
just popping off an image what happened a cloud front rolled in over it while it was happening and i didn't know it so as
i was going through my pictures as when i uploaded them i was scanning so i said oh my god and the clouds ruined it
ruined all of them right but see the clouds did room on because part of
the constellation was visible and part of it wasn't yeah so as i was scanning through there
i ran into this one somewhere in the middle where you could see the whole constellation all the stars
and the clouds at the same time and it made you feel like you were living in a fishbowl you know what i mean in the
i was like oh my god look at this image i mean and the one after that was bad
all over bad except for this
i popped it off into photoshop and started processing and it went holy god
look at the colors you know what i mean it was just insane it wasn't just like i was telling him
it's a one in a lifetime shot that will never happen again that stuff will never
happen again you know yeah you get a few of those and you just you
cherish them for even having tried that the first step is oh we'll try it and we'll see and he wasn't even trying
to get it it just came knocking on your own door right it came out absolutely
that was uh so scott did share that yeah i went offline what happened is my
brother came in here and i forgot that everybody was listening to me and i was talking i said oh my god i gotta they're
they're hearing our conversation over here so i shut it down right
yeah so so i guess scott didn't share that image
with uh him before he uh i really wanted him to see that because his shot is so reminiscent you know what i mean
yeah i have it and um yeah so scott's sharing the uh
youtube crowd so we'll leave that up but um i'll lead off with that shot tom and
i'll give you the credit when i get to my presentation i don't have a lot
but uh i will be happy to um share that image
leading into some of the images that i'll share um with my presentation because it's uh
you know nature and when you look at that image and you see several different images of
it of how you look at it from a different perspective even even under looking at it through the
clouds it gives you a perspective of who you are and how fragile you are man you're just living on this little ball
absolutely and we're arguing about yeah sometimes i think that humility is
important yeah you know we're all arguing about the stupidest of things
i mean if we we as human beings don't always get it
right but we yeah you know we sometimes we don't have much of an
option because we're we sort of live in our own heads sometimes you see so being in vegas you
really see that it you realize that someone's reality only goes as far as
what they see through their own eyes anything else may not matter you hit on something their reality is
what they have experienced and if they haven't experienced the uh
what's the word i want to say here uh well i don't know just seeing something
different and accepting accepting that there's something else out there and i think that's right part
of the reason i i struggle with kind of the let's just focus on what's here on earth is that
if you only pay attention to what's right in front of you you miss everything else that could be
going on around you oh no there's a lot more there's a lot more to
you know those of us who are lay scientists but may have you know i have a computer engineering
background we both you and i time we we know how to take a camera and point it in space so we know how to collect data
it may take a scientist to look at it and say hey you captured this and we may not even realize it like i i was
just like you didn't realize it was until you looked at your data and you saw that image and said wow i didn't and
i didn't know i was going to capture it yeah i threw even the images that were good that i could have used
in another image that didn't have clouds that images alone didn't compare to the
other ones so i threw the other ones away too right right and just kept the one because of the
moment that it what it pictured in my mind when i looked at it you know what i mean
and then when i went and processed it i went man but my vision just came my vision of what this image should have
looked like came right out in the processing as well yeah that's a one when you when you get the
look you're looking for well when you connect we'll see you have to connect with those
pixels yeah you know what i mean that becomes
that becomes the ultimate challenge and uh yeah you know what i was gonna say is here's the word
you when you do astronomy i've been doing astronomy since i was
since i was seven years old so i look at the world completely different than other people do i don't see
i don't see all the arguments that we have i mean i don't understand why don't we just
why don't we just love each other for before the understanding that we're lucky enough to even be here on this
place you know and i think that's exactly why i gravitate towards astronomy as
well and why it was worth it a community of us and we don't care
where you come from who you are if you've got the dream you're a part of the group man yeah
i mean there's there's so many numbers there's a number of different um
communities that are out there and um you know the astronomy community in
general you know it's uh it's it's definitely one of inclusion it
can be one of you know my equipment allows me to do this isn't this cool we have our we have
our group of those who are you know very good at pointing out
you know how good their picture is because of what they use but
for the most part our community learns from each other and we
we enjoy seeing each other's work we push you know we push ourselves to see what we can do better and
you know we come to global star party and and we read these wonderful comments we
the uh comments from all of you that are uh showing up um keep those going
um you all you know are an invaluable part and it global star party
is what it is because everybody's out there watching and on occasion i know a few will wind
up joining in that same enlightenment that i'm talking about to the masses that
blog on and see this stuff and it gives them a different opportunity to see the world differently
you know yeah and i think that's i think it's very important um yeah i'll
bring out um you know dr neil degrasse tyson decided to send a tweet that sort of said a lot of people on fire
um considering the total lunar eclipse uh as
uninteresting um you know that uh you know it's got to be you know it has to be one of the most
uninteresting things to take place and some would agree because they would
they'd say the common person wouldn't even notice it was happening unless they looked up
but others are so fired up about that comment they're saying how dare you
say something like that when you know such a happening makes for a great outreach thing you show people and
they look and go wait the moon's not supposed to be that color what's going on so
there's a there are a lot of different views even in our community um depending on how long like you said
tom you've been an astronomer you've been doing astronomy all your life and
never happy reflector you know yeah and it never see you in the chat
even those of you in the chat are not so cool about a comment like that
you know i like tom the fact that even though you've done a lot of astronomy it never ceases to amaze you
i feel that if we get to a point where we feel like we've seen a lot and that
universe is ours we'll lose track of it and then it no longer we can no longer be amazed by even the
simple things so it's i think we have to be careful i think and i fear that's the reason why
we have
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can't hear you scott turn on your volume there we go how about that
thank you for uh hanging in there with us on our break um you're watching the 94th star party
with the theme of transformation
a huge audience of people that was watching the eclipse on an outreach event that he
was posting and showed us what it was like to see the eclipse so um
hi nice to meet all of you thank you very much scott for the invitation
it's a great pleasure to participate now i will show what happened
as from sunday to monday here we organized the
biggest events here in brazil where we recognize the observation of the total
eclipse in six seats at same time
and you have the participation of more than 300 people and here in brazil it happened
after 11 almost 11 30
p.m then most of them happened in in the period that people were sleeping
or preparing to to go to work in the morning then we finished the observation at 3
a.m and we had a lot of people with yours in the public square that you
organized events i will share here my my screen to show what happened because we have
the report sent by a a try show
in our tv um something is different from this cartoon
the audio when we're with we haven't he said i don't know we're muted
i'm trying to share my screen but i can't see my screen now
what's happening something is different i don't know why what i did
your screen button not working marcelo no i tried to share the screen but see
there it goes it just is maybe taking time okay now it was working
no no no no no it's not too late let me see if you can i'm sharing in my
screen i i can't see yes we can see it okay let me and now the presentation
okay yeah
this is a maze taken by one of the members of our stonehenge group cast during the eclipse
and we have before the eclipse only a little history about what we did here
before the eclipse we participated in many radio uh
channels here in our region and the one tv channel
show the preparation for the eclipse and this was the part that they showed
in
was preparation and we required my at my university
all preparation for the eclipse and many people in our city was talking
about the eclipse many people tried their emails from us
and you had the opportunity to show many things here i thought you go fast here
then using they talk with the people in the streets
to know if what they were waiting for the eclipse of salvation
and it is the meds this is the main square public square of our seats and the
places where we organize the activity the eclipse observational seats
then uh now i'll show because it is a long report and these
are the mazes from the public where these majorities taking
1am 1am
and i i arrived at the the public square
at 3 10 30 p.m
then we could see the moon and it was clear in the direction of the
moon when we finished the the amount of the audi telescopes when
we finished to organize the telescopes it is totally clouds
then it and it stayed totally cloudy for one hour
and a half then until midnight and 30 minutes it was totally
clouds and everybody stayed at the public square waiting for
a better moment to see the eclipse here are the
mazes of the people waiting for the observation of the eclipse
a lot of people at this moment the moon appeared the moon appeared uh 50 minutes before
am that is it was in the total eclipse
and here you can see the people and now i will show the parts that's here
we had the the participation of a journal journalist of a brazilian tv channel that your eyes will feel
uh for during out moments here this was the
report
uh here is the moon mid 1930 and 30 minutes we are we were
concerned because we couldn't see the moon
i i was telling the history that it was clear and then
uh we used the the apps to show the moon by the the
people that was there and this is why
uh she was with hers and she saw the mages sent by
her daughter that was in another state that she was seeing the moon
and she was showing the image that her daughter said to her
another group that was there since the beginning of the activity
uh he's saying that in the first time that he has the opportunity to see the ah your telescope he is
thank you ah here's the move
we are now said now is the moon now you can see the moon everybody
begins to clap
and they had the opportunity to give a public class in the barbecue squad
everybody was very happy to see the eclipse
for most of them was the first time that they saw the eclipse of the
total lunar eclipse uh here is scarce that
took the pictures here is the
image and many people
here it was the transmission made by shield by the observatory that
they used just in during the eclipse here are images
taken by this this guy that you are the first time in that also he
was participating in a observation of a total lunar eclipse
and in this public square we had more than 150 people
journey out of eclipse observation this was a part
here amazing let's see this is the what
we saw from the public square and here is our group
this is the thing of our group that was
at the public square we had the four telescopes there
and now i will show the mazes of the other place where you organize job service this is
in this public square here in a school in another city that we
call something there is our cities campus another group that's your eyes
near the the coast in the city of sonja laba another seat
here a group and another different city that's cados modir they were waiting for the moment
of the eclipse here another group in the other the
in the same place near the coast in a different location in the city of sanjondabar
here in near the forest that is santa maria medallion at that
where we have the first that sky park of latin america
this is the entrance of the dark sky park there you are also there with a telescope we use the
12 telescopes to make the observation of eclipse in nine different places
it is at the main square and the next opportunity that you have here will only
happen in 2025 and my next year we have the opportunity
to see a partial solar eclipse in our seat
and the ib you can see in united states and here
you see in the north region of brazil also the
another eclipse of the sun and here's the region in brazil in the
north that we organize a group to to travel to this issue and here how
will we see the eclipse in 2023 from
our seats that's it and the next one
is only oh 20 2025
marks that you can see the eclipse also will be very late for us
then this was our event and i received information that was one
of the biggest event public events in the world of the observation of the eclipse
we had the groups in uh in ninth place but only seven place
that they had the opportunity to observe the eclipse and the thought in total we had the
participation of 300 people until 3 a.m
it was fantastic because i didn't imagine that i meet so many people
at this time we ask the support of the police they were there
with yours and but see is something that is was fantastic from me
so many people and also because it was totally clouds and they stayed
there wait in the moment to see the moon that's why it's also uh
this show that they was very motivated to see the eclipse and this is my point
thank you very much scratch for the invitation thank you nice to meet all of you
thank you so much
you are uh you're an amazing individual for
uh putting together all of this here anyways um
[Music] uh sharing this amazing uh
photography and his knowledge about taking him images of the night um
okay thank you scott um it's great to be here and
i um took a trip down to a small town called
daddle new mexico for the eclipse and
i thought i'd give a report on that sure so let me share my screen and
see how this goes
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which total lunar eclipse was this this was 2019 okay um
uh and this was kind of what inspired me to make a plan for what i was going to do
this year this was kind of an unusual condition
though because there was really high altitude sub-visual cirrus
it had been cloudy earlier in the evening which mostly cleared out
but the serous remained but it but it's not the kind of cirrus you can see it's called sub-visual cirrus
and what it does though is it kind of bloats the stars
and you know some people buy actually buy something to put on their camera to do that
this was being done naturally and um but it has kind of an interesting
effect because it spreads the stars out makes them more uniform color makes them
bigger so you can see them in the constellations and so i was
i had been shooting the eclipse um with a telescope i showed you some of those
images i think last time and um but when you know when
you're in a dark place and the eclipse happens the stars come
out right and it's just an amazing transformation
um and so i'm you know you're just you're just dumbfounded you're
struck with that awesome sight and there it was the eclipsed moon
hanging out in the cosmos i mean so i tried to take a wide field shot and
um and this is a composite the the the wide field there was uh
30-second exposures and i did a stack of a half a dozen or so
and the moon is a much shorter exposure
um you know a few seconds uh in the
you know when it's eclipse it's only a few seconds so anyway that was that was the inspiration for what i
wanted to do next and i wanted a a wide field shot like this but since
the moon was going to be lower i was hoping to get the landscape in it
and so this is uh sky safari and the blue box here is a 20 millimeter
lens on my full frame sensor the moon is over here
and and this is toward the end of the totality even though the the graphic in
sky safari at this scale doesn't show it right it's still total here
and and the milky way would have risen this far
so i i was hoping that this would make a great shot and um and bob i wanted that
same shot but i had to be in vegas and there was no chance of me getting it
so i i kind of know where you're going with this and i'm excited to see what you got
okay well i i'll tell you now i didn't get it uh
i had to mute myself because i almost swore okay i hope you would have gotten
that shot i i have i have an excuse but it's kind of lame okay so now
the other thing that my other objective though was to in the in the dark sky
uh was to get a shot like this and this is a hundred this box
is a 100 millimeter lens on a full-frame sensor and this is um
antares and ro ofiyuki and here's the blue horsehead nebula over here
there's some other nebulosity here there's there's a
m4 the globular cluster here so it's a really interesting area
and it would be so cool to get the eclipsed moon in this dark sky with with these objects
so so my location was near the last near the 2019. here's where i was i don't know if you
can see this on the on the map this is a google earth shot
in the upper right corner here because if you can see my cursor
that's where i took the 2019 shot that's that's the observatory run by john
briggs and this is the location of the lyceum his
museum of astronomical history basically and then about 60 miles down the road is
dattle and a ways down route 12 is
the site that was set up for this eclipse this is actually
a friend's uh property and um so the so the plan was
oh and and if you can see it on the map this is the vla these are the three legs of the vla the
one that runs north and the one that runs southeast and the one that runs southwest
and so hopefully you can see that on the graphic and then these lines represent
plans for shots this is this is mount whittington here this is
over 10 000 feet the site here is at about 8 000 feet
but the problem is there's a large fire here it's the bear trap fire
it's been burning a few weeks it's now at 12 000 acres
or 13 000 acres and generally the wind has been carrying
the plume off to the northeast you know the wind comes mostly out of the southwest
and off to the northeast until sunday
at which time the wind decided to shift more out of the south and the southeast
and it just filled up this valley with smoke so
uh a very unfortunate situation of course of course these fires we have in new mexico right now are extremely
um sad i mean the big fire up north is now one quarter
the size of the state of delaware wow and um
it's you know it's over 300 000 acres there are over there almost 2100
firefighters working on it it's only 26 contained as of today
there are 3 820 homes under forced evacuation it's burned up hundreds and hundreds of
buildings so it's just a real disaster
any rate um so i didn't realize that the wind had changed until i got there and started
setting up and now i'm at that location and i'm looking in this direction
is where the where the moon would rise this is all smoke here
i could not see mount whithington at all which is normally quite quite visible
and uh but let me tell you quickly what what my plan was i had two cameras on an equatorial mount
um this is an old sky watcher neq6 mount
and i had one on a fixed tripod one camera there and i had a sky watcher star adventurer
amount here and i had another camera with the wide-angle lens so what i wanted to do was a
was a track shot wide angle with this camera this camera currently in this photo has
a has a long lens on it but i switched that out to a wide lens just to shoot a time lapse
a non-moving time lapse i had a little tripod set up here in
case i wanted to put my iphone on it the idea here then where the uh
the long lens here is a 400 millimeter f28 with a 2x extender on it
which makes it 800 millimeters at five six i'll show a couple of pictures from that
i just thought i better have a long lens to try to you know if this if this eclipse is really dark it would be good to
to have some nice uh shots of the eclipse close up
and this is a 105 millimeter f1 4 sigma art lens
and uh this is the one i was going to use to shoot around antares
so i have one more shot from the back here let me just say that um the way i set
this up was the 800 millimeter equivalent was bolted on
a on a mounting plate not movable and so in order to bore sight the other
camera i put it on a wimberly gimbal
and this is very very sturdy very solid
and most of these things here are i use for shooting birds
so it came in handy for a setup like this
and the great thing about the sigma art lens is the mount that it's in
allows you to rotate the camera so you can you can compose your shot
you know you have that extra axis of freedom so that you can do uh rotation
and the same thing with this mount this is a nikon uh no this is this is another wimberly
mount um i'm sorry it's a wimberly foot but it's a nikon uh lens mount and so i
can also rotate this camera so i have the necessary degrees of freedom to do
compositions so near sunset uh looking a little
further south this is what it this is what the scene looks like
um [Music] this is actually a fire in the gila which is quite a way south of where i
was but i could see this smoke uh coming up you know very rapidly here and i'm not
sure this is a new fire i'm not sure um what the extent of that is at the moment
now um i don't
maybe i didn't point it out but um
uh in one of those other pictures you can actually see two of the antennas of the vla
in the planes down here but anyway so uh
darkness occurred and um the moon came up but we didn't see it
because it was behind all that smoke and eventually when it got high enough
already partially eclipsed this was the first view we had of of the
moon so all of this stuff you see in the top part of the picture is smoke
and this is actually the ground the camera is kind of tilted here this is this is a shot made through the 100
millimeter lens but the moon the illuminated part here which would normally be very bright and
light colored was totally red because of the smoke and even even redder was this little
band here so
uh this was the 100 millimeter shot here is um
the 800 millimeter shot uh again some of this is
maybe smoke i don't know but um eventually the moon got sort of out of
the smoke but never ever really got out of it and here is a
single exposure at 1 60th of a second
that was not just just below saturation on the bright side
and quite a bit pumped up here and i think the moon kind of looks
yellowish here because of the smoke so um but it's kind of it's kind of cool
looking it's beautiful uh so after total eclipse started um
i got this shot through the 800 millimeter setup and you'll remember
um i'm sorry i've forgotten his name conrad no connell connell
he talked about those three stars you can see in this picture
uh the moon is shifted with respect to those three stars on in his picture they they were more
lined up on the middle star which is actually a double star and i don't suspect that
you can actually see both stars in this picture but i don't suspect that you can see
that on the video and uh this is uh a brighter star
here hr uh something and i should have i should
have had these i think most people know what they are but there's quite a few stars in the picture here
and um so i got quite a few shots similar to
this and in in my location this star was occulted this one just barely missed uh being so
so so then how did i do on the 100 millimeter
shot um early on i hit it horizontal
this is a 30 second exposure um here's the moon blowing out of course
here's uh this is this is um light from the fires
so this is at an angle it's not horizontal uh these two stars are the
imagine the third star over here so this is the top part of the scorpion
uh and teres is down here um so not looking so good so here was um
to remind you this is what i was hoping to get this is the best i got uh here's the
moon you might actually be able to see a very faint vestige of the blue horse head
here and very faintly row of yuki cloud here
you can see the globular cluster m4 and this is antares
everything below that is pretty much obscured um now i do have
about 30 of these so i and i have i have actually what i was shooting was brackets
uh on an interval with the internal interval timer so i i would shoot several
uh different exposures at each interval and then every minute i would shoot those
exposures again so that i can try to combine these in something that
you know looks decent but i don't think it's going to work very well because i just don't have
you know a clear sky here but the sky is very dark here
um and you can see an e this is a 15 second exposure by the way so even in 15
seconds as they say is full of stars
so then the wide angle shots that i had sitting on the small small tripods um
here is uh here is the 20 millimeter shot
um so this is the bear trap fire which is about 30 miles away
and you can see the light reflected off the smoke plume
all of this is smoke and
so it's kind of an interesting an interesting picture it's not something you
normally see in an eclipsed moon shot is a wildfire going on underneath
here's the eclipsed moon this was near the peak of the
totality and then here is a 40 millimeter shot
which gets you much closer and
you can see the extent of the fire here
so that's all i had um
yeah that's great though it's great it's it's sad to know that uh
this um fire uh has just really gotten so out of control did it start as like a
controlled burn or something or not the fire bear trap no um
i'm they're they're still investigating the cause of that fire um
the fire up north the big fire was the result of a control burn that got
out of control yeah it was the result of an uncontrolled burn
so to speak i mean it's a tragedy i mean yes you know the wind came up i don't
know why they didn't have the proper prediction about what the wind was going to be but um it just got out of control
and it's it's now the largest fire in the state history
um so it's it's terrible goodness
bob i hopefully um uh you stay in a safe location and um
um you know and that fire can get under control somehow quickly
so yep yeah sad to hear but it's still made for some amazing images
imagery of the eclipsed moon overall of that so it's uh
so the planning didn't go for naught and it um yeah that's something
well you know you know the old saying when you've got lemons make lemonade
yeah right when you're given lemons make lemonade
all right that's what i tried to do here well you're doing it next i was
yeah i was given grapefruit and bowling balls so i had to try and make lemonade out of
that and well you'll see you'll see my efforts soon
um it was uh it was unexpected because i thought i'd
have zero shot and that i'd have to be in a in another room before
we got going but as it turns out i had the time wrong by an hour
and so i had 25 minutes to get what i could get then i saw that
it was cloudy there i go i'm gonna go anyways maybe it'll appear
out of the clouds i gotta take a shot and
i got what i could get oh yeah those those are all especially
the 100 millimeter one was beautiful even if you couldn't get all the nebula that you were looking for in there you
did get i think you did get something so yeah i shared um i shared uh uh bob fugate's
uh website on uh and his astrophotography page um
uh but uh it's definitely worth taking a look at the images are stunning so
we have a lot of great astrophotographers here and our next uh speaker of course is adrian bradley who
shares his nightscapes with us but also throws in an occasional bird
photograph which i always love to see so i'll turn it over to you adrian
all right well i need to share my screen because i need to go find one of those
bird photos my my theme was basically trying to shoot the lunar
eclipse when you promised somebody that you would bowl so
let's uh where do we start colonel had a presentation
talking about um clouds let me see first
i want to share from tom pickett who's on there he shared this image that he had been talking about those of you
following along and this is the image that he got um with cloud cover
and he liked it you know it it gives sort of an imagery of
uh standing in the fire while looking at orion now of course if you you go with what we've seen from bob
um bob fugate and um his images we're not so sure this is uh
you know you may look at this and go it's kind of a sad but true depiction of what
what some people's skies are like right now with the fires and so it's uh
there is something here um you know apropos with this image maybe not so
much for those who have lost homes and lives it's almost kind of uh
it takes on a lot of different meanings depending on how you look at it and um
so that's an image that was shared my one and only lucky image with moon in
the clouds was this image and this came from uh conal
showing his beautiful shot of the eclipsed moon with clouds he reminded me
of this is i have not really been able to duplicate a shot like this and i haven't
been able to improve upon it with a rising moon um
there's some there are some things that i'd love to be able to improve upon as far as imagery
with clouds so definitely something to for me to work on
um let's see my other so here we are we're in vegas
so i'm going to this is this is what i was shooting
instead bowlers bowling fingers coming just out of the bowling ball um
this gentleman had a great time this is a friend of mine he he did great at the tournament and um
it was it was nice to see the all-events leader at this tournament is this gentleman rolling the ball not
much to do with um astrophotography but when when the skies are cloudy and you're
stuck inside the bowling center you gotta take your camera and shoot at something there was also a rodeo going on
so instead of the typical birds scott you're going to get the horses versus the riders so there's a
there was a picture i kind of found a behind the scenes nook where they were walking and training the horses and so i
took some pictures that's one of them that i got a chance to take um
this was my view outside of my hotel window not the best view but it has a sort of
moodiness to it you see the mountains that we're kind of surrounded by in vegas
um those come in handy later my boss's boss notice the difference
between the accomplished bowlers and then us here we are trying to bowl
here's yours truly trying to throw a bowling ball so now's your chance to laugh as much as
you want that's me trying to roll i don't remember what i got this frame but um looks like a strike to me
yeah i think that the ball's still in the air so someone captured it for me
this team did pretty well and they let me take their photo i'll have to straighten it out but um
yeah teams come to bowl these open championships so now
at some point there was an opportunity to try and catch in eclipse
this was one of the shots i had last um the last eclipse where i was able to
plan and shoot in clear skies and i did a composite of a shot where
i i have the pleiades here and i have the moon to scale um
plopped in here and that was the best that i could do for that particular
image i where i was it wasn't as dark as where bob was when he was able to
take his photo um but um that was
that was one of the shots i was able to get last time so the question was what was i going to
be able to get this time i rushed out to the roof and when i got there i noticed that the moon was peeking through the
clouds and i hurried to try to get a shot well the moon started to drift
back into the clouds it was at a partial eclipse phase at this point so there isn't much detail there at all
i saw it but then when i put the camera down to try and shoot it i didn't have a tripod so i had to try
and set it on a bag this is the soupy sky that i'm shooting
at and there's smoke rising in front of me so i've got all of this
you can barely see mountains and a cell tower so this is the environment that i'm
trying to get some sort of magical shot of an eclipsed moon that you can't even see
and there's dust on my sensor kind of kind of sets the stage for an
impossible situation well
as it would happen i got a chance to see some of the eclipsed moon here it is here um
peeking through and you can see some of the mountains this is similar to the shot that i
shared um that was shared by a kareem during the global star party where they had the lunar
eclipse um i'll see if i have the one that was
a little bit better i don't think i downloaded it here this is a
a little closer up and represents pretty well what i saw
minus some of the details or you know the contrast the eclipse moon was
dipping behind the clouds again and um you have the mountains here and you have
the lights of vegas and the rooftop south point casino where i was bowling
so this was around minute 24 of 25 where i basically took the type of shot that i
could get and then i just sort of left it at that i do believe i have one other
shot um [Music] let's go find it i think it's around
here i'll see if i can do it quickly otherwise i'll just uh
let's see so it would be in this range here two
oh thought i unloaded it but apparently
i didn't of course i do still have
some other images of fabulous las vegas but
the image i'm looking for is this one
um where there's a way to it might be a way to
do that yeah this image was the this is the one that i know got sent in
i got it had escaped the clouds enough to see enough detail
and if i zoom way in you'll see that it's all pixelated but
taken at a distance this is essentially what i was able to get
and in fact if i were to i can do a quick little edit here
i would crop out probably a lot of this because there's just not much to see
here maybe crop it out some and then
bring this over and
and you end up with a shot like this where you've got the eclipse moon
this was this was all i could see of the eclipse but i was able to see something
and it made me happy that i was able to i shared in it i shared this image with a bunch of
different bowlers and they stopped they said wow i didn't know what was going on or
some that knew i was trying to capture the eclipse right happy that i got something
and i was out here doing outreach at the bowling alley saying yeah this is going on right now out there
and a few few people stopped and looked and said that's pretty that's pretty cool or you know that's amazing for most
bowlers all they're worried about is whether they're gonna do well and here they
i was able to give a few of them an opportunity to see that something else was going on
rather interesting and and a lot of them i don't think i had i had a couple of bowlers that were more
concerned about their bracket money but by and large most people were
would stop and ask questions so so i got a brief chance to do some astronomy outreach before going out
there and bowling in and i left a few pins didn't bowl as well as i would like but
i still had a pretty good time um took a lot of pictures there too so
so i will leave you all with this shot and
you know even if you if you can plan you can take better shots but even if you can't plan
you know you you just have to do the best you can with what you've got and um
and then hopefully in post edit you can clean it up a little bit and then you can share it
and um you know then you can well you see what you have
got to get rid of some of these things and and you never know you may
you may wind up with a decent enough photo to share and at least you have the
memory of trying it's it's never good enough for me to say
that um well it's too you know it's too cloudy i can't
you know i'm not gonna be able to see much there isn't anything really i can do i'm just gonna
not do it at all when i realized i had an opportunity i went ahead and i took it
yeah and i did the best that i could yeah i'm cleaning up the image as we go
um as i uh as i get ready to turn
turn it back over to scott to our next presenter and um
actually i want to go this way with it because then the mountains come out a
little bit and there we go best i can do
for the 2022 may 2022 lunar eclipse
looking forward to seeing the um
hopefully being able to see the next one in november and be able
to plan for it i did want to um
i did want to shoot it in a darker place knowing the milky way was going to rise and i believe it was going to be up even
even higher than where um where you were bob it was going to be high enough and
i was gonna try and take the shot over i'll real i'll real quickly share
one more time one of the images that i actually did have um
that i put in this folder let's see
oh cancel this this is doing something different um here we go
one of the images that i took when i got a chance to go out here in alcona county was this milky way image right here
and the moon the eclipse moon if you place it was gonna be over here
somewhere or in here and um
i would be able to reshoot a scene like this with the eclipse moon hanging out or sitting right over here
or i could do something where it i don't think it would have been
eclipsed at this point the milky way is a little high up but
as it rises and i think i think somewhere i have a rising if you can imagine the rising
picture of the milky way with um you know coming up and then the eclipse
moon ahead of it that was the image i wanted to take but
i had already agreed to a trip out west and as it turns out where i would have
gone it would have been raining or extreme cloud and i wouldn't have seen it at all
um so i'm okay with the fact that i didn't quite get my shot at it
but um i was looking forward to having an image something like this with
the eclipse moon that was going to be my attempt
didn't work out that way but it didn't stop me from getting what i could get so
so that's it yep yeah you have to like uh like you said bob
if you have lemons you make lemonade sometimes you're handed uh you're into grapefruit and salt
and i whatever you make with that you you do the best you can and
but you never give up and that that was my my attempt that uh getting something in
it i felt i felt it felt good just to be able to see it let alone
um take a picture of it yeah it felt good just to say okay there's the moon there
it is it's eclipsed i'm i'm one of many around the globe that are able to see it at this time
i didn't have to be shut out after all so i was able to do that and bowl so it
wasn't it wasn't a total loss and i didn't bowl terrible but it's been a while since i've been since i was really
good at it i wasn't doing any photography and i wasn't doing much astronomy at the time
um either so there are some trade-offs in life and that's the one that i'm taking
so so with that back to you uh scott thank you very much adrian thanks a lot
um you know one of the um uh you know i had asked different people uh what their
impressions of uh of the um the eclipse was and uh so i reached out
to uh nine-year-old nicolina who's been on global star party like in
the chat and uh i've had her on live a live program before she only speaks
portuguese she's down in brazil she is recognizes being the youngest research
astronomer she studies asteroids and uh she's got several candidate asteroids right now uh
waiting to be confirmed but uh i'm gonna post her response
she said i said hi nicolina how was the eclipse for you she said it was amazing i cried with
emotion it was my first total lunar eclipse so i think that's great
to have uh something like that impact you at such a young age and um anyways
up next is um is john schwartz uh john is a long time
friend he is a very enthusiastic amateur astronomer uh he's an artist and tonight he's going
to share some of his artwork and some of his experience with you so john
thanks for coming on to global star party good evening everybody you're out in california so it's still light out
there it is it uh it's clear too yeah awesome that's some nice nice
weather we did get a good look at the eclipse um unfortunately i set up in the wrong
area and i didn't get to use my telescopes my daughter tells me dad
look quick the eclipse and i go what i spent like four hours setting up two
rigs and and that's what happened so i had to run and get my 16 by 70
fujinons and find the tripod and the bracket and i barely made it but i did one image because everybody is
showing the eclipse i'd like to show mine so um this image was taken through my cell
phone okay i projected and uh i did a little processing like adrian was saying
you clean them up this is the best i could do with photoshop express and everything i do is
done on my cell phone so this is all done on the cell phone that's very cool it's my best friend
very impressive i appreciate that uh you know it wasn't what i wanted but
it was better than nothing and um so i've been able to share you know with a few people i showed my mom and my
family they were pretty interested well now are you sharing with the world yes wonderful
i really love doing the moon um it's one of my favorite things you know because
it's easy with light pollution to work and and see and you can see some amazing details
with all the different lighting on the craters and i just recently started doing crater
images and i do a lot of posting and cloudy night sketching forums that's where i
show a lot of my work but tonight we're going global so this is very exciting and i'm honored to be
here uh with all of you gentlemen and and ladies everybody who's been posting their beautiful work and
those fire moon shots were amazing i mean to be able to at least get something out of nothing was it's a
testament to your ability to just stay at it not give up that's right
it's excellent work and um i know mine isn't probably one of the best but it's better than nothing so
we'll go ahead and you're showing a a number of different images here where do you want to start well i'm
going to start with the lunar so um let's start with the keys crater
okay now there's an also another mega dome volcano near there which they
recently a few few years back had said that they classified it as a megadome
but that's keys crater this is an actual sketch from a view through my 24-inch
newtonian um that i drew so we're not seeing individual shots we're just saying yeah
oh um okay i just clicked on my screen too
give me a second yeah we can see here we can see your mouse green on the edges
it says new share okay there you go keys no that's one you
want the keys creator yeah there we go now we see it this is
this is it done on my cell phone and um it's beautiful it was originally
a sketch and then i bring it in and i i uh use photoshop express which is a free
program and then i flip it back and forth with samsung photo editor
to do the actual painting and highlighting and the express gives me some filter abilities and and some
different abilities but in unison i'm able to create some amazing work i'm
just really happy inspiring john yeah and it's all free programs and it's
all done on my cell phone you know i take a picture of the sketch and then i go to work i mean yeah
some of these take days uh because i'm never happy and i just keep tweaking them you know until i get the best
result so i love this one because if you look uh at keith's
and the dome it looks like a guy with you know yeah and and like he has uh
some kind of a apparatus like near his mouth it's pretty cool there's just always hidden images in there you know
that i love right okay so let's move to the next one
john you come from like an artistic family too is that right yeah you know when i was a kid
uh at six years old my father bought me my first oil paint kit
and um i painted an eagle because we live in a great country but
that's not why i just loved eagles you know bald eagles and uh yeah so i i painted the eagle and
you know i was hooked at an early age and i would always draw and i had a sketchbook and
you know over the years i've kind of gotten away from it i did a few commissions
spent a lot of time and and the people didn't want to compensate me for the time so
it just kind of took away the passion part of my painting and sometimes when you mix business with
pleasure it kind of puts a bad taste on it so i've always had the gift i just kind of
got away from it and then when my father passed away a few years
back i just i needed something and i i started to do a merger of my
astronomy as you know all the work you set up and then you get squashed by clouds or bad seeing and
fires i mean it's just a tough hobby and uh but when you love it you just
don't give up so that's right this this reignited both of my passions into one
and um now i'm really enjoying all of this together and it's like i've
never had this much fun with the hobby and my art together that's great it's just wonderful so
yeah i'll move over to um gascendy crater
we have to get back to screen sharing here down i think the green one there you go so let's go get cindy this guy
here yeah okay let me do a new show
yeah there you go so this is gascendy crater
now i used two telescopes to achieve this
and scott i want to tell you that six inch it's a killer
now i use this scope for my lunar and solar work a lot i also use an exceptionally good uh c9 and quarter to
get some of the finer you know resolution on the details but this is also an uh kind of an eyepiece sketch
and then i bring it in and i work on it you know for days till i get it as good as i can
that is incredibly detailed thank you shading yeah i went with some blue
the cool blue uh of the you know because it's very cold there yeah and uh
right i i just love the moon i mean i've been looking at these guys and cloudy nights
and there's some amazing artists there you know these guys aren't trained artists they're just
die-hard astronomers eyepiece astronomers and you know it's a different beast i mean
those guys really uh sparked and inspired my passion to start doing
craters because you know it's a little competitive i want to portray the best work i can and i'm
working with some of the best guys sketching what you're portraying right here is so inspiring looking it really
is you know thank you it's donald trauma a lot of uh
it just sort of leaps out at you it's really thank you you know composition you have to get the right swath in the
shape of the actual uh portrayal you know because you're not going to do the whole moon so you have
to create a nice comfortable shape that has character so i'll play with ten different renditions
and shapes till i find the one i really like so so let's move forward again this one i'm
really proud of uh archimedes this
is i'm telling you this are we on a different image right now or the same
yeah we're moving on to oh look at this is called archimedes wow now some of the stuff i i do hidden
connotations hidden imagery like salvador dali okay so if you look inside the crater
floor you can almost see like a skull and with like a teeth and a nose and an
eye so i'd like to play with these images and do a little hidden stuff in there
but this was done with the the 24 inch again and
it's an f466 not to be confused but just happened to
be that focal ratio very sharp telescope
and i spent five different tries to get this like this so it was a lot of work
um but i'm very happy with the result you know the crater floor has some neat
uh craters in there and the crater wall the rim it just kind of floats it's almost dimensional for me
you know the left side where the shadow is and that little bit of a
looks like a mountain piece there or rim so i was i was also happy with this one
and uh i got a lot of great response on it and again this is done on my cell phone from a
sketch uh original sketch and then i take a picture of it and then i really start to work it so
i really like this one yeah this is nicely done thank you even i just started doing craters by the
way yeah no that i know of a couple um
rick hill uh sends out you know
crater detail that you know images that he gets from uh one or more of his telescopes and talks
about the history of the crater so you know crater images are definitely a thing if we call it that
and your touch on it you know you distinguishes it can see your distinguishing sort of
look if someone shows a image of a crater you can kind of you'd be able to tell if
it's something that you might have uh worked on and that's kind of unique having your cell phones as your workshop
you know of course everyone's got all the computers and even i sit around with a computer but um
you know using the cell phone tools it gets you it gets you the image that you're looking for or
yeah and the look that you want so nothing wrong with it at all i appreciate that adrian because i've
been watching your stuff too and you do amazing work and it's very inspiring you know i i get
so inspired by watching the global star party and and the guys on cloudy nights
it just makes me want to produce better work and and i want to share it you know the whole point is to share
and i also want to give people pointers on how to do it it's very easy you know
and they're free programs i use samsung dedicated photo editor
which really allows me to do most of my painting it's just that the controls are
meager it's not like photoshop you know which i'm about to get uh set up but i'm
i'm lagging you know i'm slow on the computer stuff i'm just getting acclimated mike helps me tremendously
my my right-hand man well yeah it's it it always is about
what it what you're looking to portray in an image and you're you know when you're already at a point where
you take a sketch and you say okay well i want this to look like this and i want to bring this out more and i want to and
i even want to add a little bit here yeah i do every time
you know that then it's just a matter of what tools will i use to get the look that i'm looking for and
um but yeah you got the data down part which is you know it's about a third of the way
there thank you yeah these are just i just started doing these crater shots this year
uh you know i am a trained artist so i have some good advantages there yeah so you know you you have that eye yeah keep
on going i mean i you you've made the moon your canvas and
that's a long canvas now dr david levy has a crude drawing of
the moon and the craters but he mapped in observing the moon he mapped every visible part of it out from earth so oh
wow definitely a worthwhile pursuit i mean there's there's no telling
what you may find i i'd even put in a request to um you know
draw the lunar x in the lunar v i'd love to see your take on those regions of the moon for first quarter
that all right those are my favorite regions just because they're kind of elusive and hard
to capture i've only captured them twice with a photo so um
so yeah it i i like it keep on going thank you so much adrian it's really
absolutely i love to hear that you know it's just gonna what was a lunar x and which one
uh yeah if you look it up lunar x and lunar v okay i'm gonna take a look
and i'm sure if we had someone who just you know total moon buff each apollo landing
site oh yeah the elephant has some amazing stuff uh i've been cruising the
lro i'm looking you know i want to know are they really there
because i i don't know i i just you know i've seen some weird things but nothing
flying over i think a lot of that's uh you know for attention people create this stuff so yeah until i actually see
it but i was gonna just run a video camera live and and record it and see if i could produce anything but
i don't know i think i might be wasting my time well we're too far the lunar orbiter is close enough we're
too far away the moon is big but you know we're a little too far away to see the man-made stuff that's on it but we
can see the regions that were selected for the landing site so
so that would be yeah and by all means these are just suggestions but
you know you you're taking it where you want to take it and then
you know then it's more enjoyable i i run into folks that are like you should get a picture of this
and you know if it's something that i wouldn't normally go and do
then a charge is involved it's like you know what i'm you're gonna have to pay for me to find
you know a tulip field somewhere and shoot uh i actually do um sell
some of my worst yeah i sell them every couple years they get commissions and um yeah
this one i'm really proud of too um go ahead i'll go i'll go back on meat go
ahead and this is uh you know scott has been so good to me over the years uh
we've collaborated at riverside telescope convention when he was working with need and this just so happens to be
a telescope that i i also have a disease i collect telescopes
i don't want to have an image spotlighted now
yeah this image uh you know i have 28 telescopes now
oh my gosh yeah it's bad and they just keep coming so this is uh one of the
meads uh during scott roberts time and i scored this for a friend because i
hand-picked the optics i'm very meticulous about star testing and you know finding the best optics to get the
best view to share with my outreach i do a ton of outreach for the public
that's basically what i do at star parties is i open up my 28 inch to the public
and i i show women children and people and everybody views they've never seen and they just
scream out and you know when they see saturn or or like m16
or even um m13 it just people just come running i have to fight them off i don't
want them to trample me but uh this one is a uh mead
eight inch one of the sharpest schmidts i have seen now my buddy gave it to me
oh we don't we're still just seeing your uh display share screen here we go yeah
uh i think you gotta that one yeah you got it
okay so wow this you have to this is mind-blowing how i did this get ready
so i took an eyepiece projection with through uh with my cell phone of
the moon after all night observing session it was going getting ready to go down it
was still up you know 40 degrees setting and um the sky was blue
so everything was blue so i just used my two programs on my cell phone to
darken everything and tweak the contrast and then i hand painted the clouds in there
so it's called moon ascending so it was setting into the cloud actually
it was rising out of the clouds a little bit but on its way down so
i i painted this thing i actually did a mock-up and did it uh with an opaque
projector and i transferred it to a canvas and i painted it it's a 16 by 20
painting and and then i took a picture of it and uploaded it so you know i'm a photo
realist is what i learned in college as well so i do a lot of photo realism
because um i love to you know imitate nature and portray it with a little bit of a
spin from my point of view but this was nothing more than just a you know quarter moon or half whatever
you know like uh it was the later quarter so
it came out pretty good i'm very happy with this one too
it is stunning thank you so much okay so now we're gonna start moving in
to uh to a little deep space uh okay let's go with
the um yeah that one the antenna this is one of my better dso ones
um it's called the antenna galaxy ngc 4038
i think so no that's it
ngc 4038 now this was done with a 32-inch
uh michael lockwood mirror f33 and then a combination you still
need to click on the uh and share the individual shot screen yeah yeah
no way uh it's this one right here
very how about now ngc 4038
you can see it yes okay so yeah this is a sketch done so what i do on my deep
space i also use what's called a mellish technique i'm not sure if you folks are familiar with that
scott mellish was an australian astronomer that created the most amazing works
with paint brushes and powdered chalk and pastel powders
so it he would get the diffuse glow with brushwork and then sketch in with um the hard pencils the
white generals i'd use a generals number 558 white
charcoal in that blending stubs and then that kneaded eraser to remove so it's a
combination of technique and then i bring it into my programs
and i clean it up even more so these are this one was an actual sketch and then uh it got converted into a
digital i love digital because i can store most of my work on my phone
the wife's happy about the canvas is not being strewn about in the paints they're very expensive you know
so this is very affordable to to do and um i'm getting a good result from my
dso stuff right do you like this one oh yeah yeah okay
i'll move forward i know i'm running a little over so let me get i got a couple more i'm gonna save the best for last
scott okay and i'll uh there's unfortunately i don't have a drum roll but okay
well you'll see why it's the best uh okay okay so go to the 253.
this is ngc 253 done in the melish all right you guys need to share your
screen yeah we're getting there okay i don't see it
there it is how about now there you go okay ngc 253
stunner that was done through the 28 at mount pinos california
yeah that took quite a bit of time so um that's also done in the melish
technique and um you know i i got a lot of good positive
response on that one as well i don't know i mean it's not an astral photo by any means but i mean the
details the 28 really pulls it out from uh you know i'm at mount pinellas we're at uh
8 900 i think 8 300 feet and um it's pretty dark you know when
the clouds come in this was done when the marine layer filled in all the coastal valleys oh yeah and then it does
get dark yeah that's when i get my best result okay so we're going to go to another one
got a couple more let's go to the black eye
yes m64
i think it's that one okay you seen it
you guys see it oh we just see the individual thumbnails okay
there it is
okay that's that's another mellish ketchum and that was done uh with the 32 and 28
a couple of drawings and then i combined details and then i again upload it
and then go to work in photoshop express and i juggle it back and forth you know i may go back and forth six or eight
times it's awesome it looks like something you would see in the gallery of the palomar observatory or something
wow it's art you know i mean i'm taking it a little further
but uh you know this is also one of those cloud nights i get my best uh views with the 28 and the ethos it's
just amazing when you couple the two together what you get okay yeah i gotta go this one i'm really
proud of now scott i have to i have to bring you back scott because
you know this six inch that i got from scientific
it's like a surgical grade instrument i mean for my lunar and then wide field stuff
it's just stunning what i can do with it it's one of my favorite scopes
and um thank you this is my result in the mellish technique i used i used the six inch for most of
the uh most of the stuff and then um and then i used a nine and a quarter to
extract a little more resolution i added some detail but the bulk of it was done through the six inch carbon fiber
triplet apo it's amazing scope scott i really appreciate it i love that telescope it's
it's it's what the uh what the astronomer brings to the game you know so
right i'm just looking through it and this is what it's giving me
it's a combination but i mean for real it's a great scope for um my lunar
planetary solar and and the wide field stuff it's it's the go-to i'm so happy to have it it's my only
refractor actually i have a little 80 millimeter but this is this is my
my you know john if you think about uh you know bring the astronomy back before the time of
photography okay uh where everything was drawn at the eyepiece yeah i think you would have
been among the best of the uh thank you scott the
uh it's it goes beyond illustration but uh the scientific drawings are what they
are you know and they're beautiful you're you're it's you know so
i appreciate that you know it like i said when you see that with an ethos eyepiece in in
that uh your instrument it is so crisp and contrasty
it just blows me away i mean the refractor is a better instrument for
than the you know the newtonian just the contrast it's a different feel
all together it just opens a different actors yeah it's it's incredible man it's your
color it's a beautiful great great scope so i'm very pleased
and i thank you again here's my last one i'm going to show you and this is i'm
very proud of this was taken through my 28 inch from
merkel mayor and a zwo camera and i cropped it
in comparison to the hubble image and this is what i got and i i did some
work in the photoshop express and also in my other program the samsung photo
editor so that's my uh shot for the pillars of creation
and if you see that little guy on the right that's my yorkie he got out there i don't know how he got out there
my little yorkie my little bosco he he got out looked at
him but i mean when you see the detail look at the the head of
the main pillar and that it's like a goat's head on there like a ram it's just amazing i always
see hidden connotations yeah and and uh this yeah i'm very proud of
this one it came out really well you should be you should be it's it's stunning
absolutely stunning but you know hubble they they could call me baby hubble
maybe no john i think that it when you draw at
the eyepiece and i'm i'm not near the artist that you are but i have drawn at the eyepiece before
and the longer you're looking uh and you're you're you're drawing and
and you think that you're not even seeing it okay yeah but then you compare your
drawing to a photograph and you go wow i caught that detail i got this detail you know you're able the the eye can see
much fainter and uh with with a greater detail the longer you look
and if you're recording it like that you know with uh to paper
it's really amazing what you can get so you know i want to say one thing
the more you draw at the eyepiece and this is you wouldn't think so but the
more you see when you look through the eyepiece so it's almost like you train your eye
to pick out more detail from all the extensive time you spend looking
at those objects you you start to extract details that you just don't see
normally it's almost like training your eye to pick out the finer details you know
and plus you acclimate it's just the problem is the lighting when you're trying to sketch
it it can take away so it takes time but it's really cool how you can really
increase what you see through the eyepiece by sketching it you know
so that's all i got i hope i didn't go too far over i i will add something to a lot of
artists and photographers have a very difficult time articulating
verbally expressing what it is that's behind all of this and uh you've done a very good job of that john so thank you
very much thank you so much it's been a pleasure tonight i want to say thank you thank you my
partner mike my emcee hey mike's gonna come on when he he's
got some beautiful new rigs if you look behind us yes we're getting ready to do some astral
photos too mike's an astrophotographer and he's helped me tremendously
uh you know in that arena and i'm gonna start getting some done too eventually but
i i like the drawing for now you know yes well thanks from the comments um beat
your signs the same i heard that too sketching is even more intense than astrophotography they say
cesar brello who is often on global star party says so amazing art um
be true i think the astrophotographers and you know with the way the light pollution is
going it's like in order to do your hobby you almost have to start doing astrophotography because you can enjoy
it and get so much more out of it you know and i i am using um some
you know pictures from my friends who give me astral photos to work off of and
i have a whole gang of those but they're not really true uh as true as the actual eyepiece
rendition stuff but um like the m16 was one that was done from an astral photo
but i mean i think i was always a visual guy and and now i'm starting to come aboard i i realize
the power of getting your work out and sharing with people i mean you should see the
frenzy of astral photographers at mount pinot so you can't even park anymore
there's so many errors and wireless signals going around i mean
it's insane and and there's guys that just started the hobby and with this new zwo stuff and and the cmos cameras you
they're doing amazing work yeah yeah that's right it's incredible so i my hat's off to those guys as well
because actually that's very inspiring and it's become a real source for me to enjoy the
hobby without being able to get to a dark site i mean you know life is so
busy and hectic it's fun to do a lot of work from your own light polluted backyard with the new
filters that they have today so adrian i love that cloud moon shot you
did i've got a lot of those but um that one was spectacular that one you showed
where i think it was an eclipse one that was going through the clouds it was like the first image you showed
did adrian check out i don't know pop i think so he is gone
yeah okay yeah he's probably listening on a lot of people a lot of the presenters
that give their presentations and have to go but they continue to listen
right into the program or watch it later so he might be bowling right now but he
might be you might be you never know okay
all right well thank you very much john i appreciate it thank you so much uh here we'll uh
we'll uh we'll see you on the next one yeah i got a lot more
but i want to go live come on again i want to go live dude with the video i'm getting i'm getting close i'm
working all right it's just i get nervous with this stuff you know i gotta really work
on my game mike's helping me a lot so i'm grateful well mike thanks for coming on as well thank you my pleasure thank
you guys have have a great evening we will thank you i'm sorry to take so long
no problem take care okay so up next is um
uh uh karina letelier she is a an amazing uh
night sky photographer and landscape photographer and astrophotographer
i used her one of her shots a kind of 360
view of the milky way in the poster for uh the 94th global
star party uh i tend to uh gravitate towards her imagery as well uh for
presentations that i give she is very gracious and very generous uh to me to
let me use her photography but her imagery is poetic uh
it's uh to me deeply meaningful and you know she is doing amazing outreach
with her work in uh her home country of chile but i think her work goes around the world so
uh karina let me uh give you the spotlight here
thanks for that introduction uh hi to all guys i'm so happy to be here
again and so well today was about transformation so i have some surprises
for you about that i wanted to share you about my experience um
how was for me to start in this on i want to show you about the the work
of other latin colleagues so i don't know you tell me scott can i
start with my presentation you just want to shout a bit okay great let me just start the
presentation
okay guys so as scott told you i'm a landscape astrophotographer from chile
and i will tell you some of my story maybe it can inspire someone
give me just one second okay so
i definitely try to use landscape astrophotography for astronomy popularization as is
more similar to what our let me just close what's up
so um it's more similar to what the eye can see but it's like as i told you the last
time i was here in this global star party it's like a switch that you turn on to
or turn off to watch the stars to watch all the colors other details and to
learn about that visual learning so well i'm today dedicated 24 7 to
astronomy popularization on to astrophotography but it was so difficult in the beginning
because um well i studied industrial engineering
i got my master's in logistics and also i had a graduate certificate uh in
supply chain management so i started working as that and actually i have
some photos in here from me before astrophotography that's a very fake smile
uh i really like my my career and what i was studying i really liked it to study but i was not
happy enough when i was working in different companies actually i work in i don't know maybe four
companies in five years because i i didn't i didn't felt that i was
uh being like helping society or or helping the world but i
didn't have another skill until then that can be used to inspire other people
to maybe help other people so i think all the skills i've developed
studying i use them to when i found astrophotography
it was during december from 2017 that i saw in the news that it was
the maximum of the gemini metro shower and i really wanted to
to catch it i had a reflex camera that i didn't know how to use i bought it because
i don't know when you're empty you really spend your money in things that
you don't know if you're gonna use it's just to fill that gap that hole that you have in your in your life so i bought
this camera i had it one year just getting a lot of dust over over it
but that night i really wanted to get the to catch
that metro shower but it didn't know anything anything about astronomy or
photography so i really try and i got so frustrated but that frustration gave me the push to
keep learning and to keep trying then it was that i
found my passion that it was not just the landscape astrophotography but the astronomy
popularization and use my astrophotography for that to teach other people that this is not like a very
difficult thing to do that everybody can do it and actually most of the people
keep telling me how you do it to keep living about from these my friends when
i was working as an engineer always keep telling me you can't live from master photography how how are you gonna do it
that that's not even a professional career how are you going to do it how are you going to make money
but when you want to leave from your passion you really have to
struggle with that and to find out how to do it so
it was not easy i really found a way but it was learning a lot
well this is just a summary of some of the things i've been doing to
from outreach and actually i wanted to share with you that i'm so happy that i was selected as a milky way photographer
of the year with capture the blessings congratulations yeah it was thanks i was congratulations i saw that
yeah yeah i was so happy when they select my photo to inspire all the people to catch
the night sky to watch up instead of down so
and this is other stuff that i've been working on like for example is tourism tourism
is an overland guide of astronomy astronomical tourism in
chile so you can go on your car you don't need to
to hire an agency or a company because you can do it yourself you can find
where are the the best or the greatest night sky here in in our country so you can do it yourself
we were collaborating that and collaborating in other talks teaching people how to catch the sun
eclipse last one we uh we had one in during 2019
and during 2020 and we really wanted to people to
protect their cameras protect their eyes so we were doing a lot of hours in there like
teaching them how to catch it and how to protect themselves
to watch it well these are other stuff that i've been doing like
all these years i've been well around four and a half years dedicating myself
24 7 to this actually one of my photos were used for the clothes of a singer
from here and what it was a game changer that i
wanted to put in here it was when i met scott i really want to to to tell about this
because i knew i loved this i knew i i loved to inspire more people
with watching the the night sky to with watching the stars and to know them because it's not just to look at them is
to understand what are you looking for example if you're looking to the galaxies and
the triplets uh galaxies in leo
yes you're watching 285 million years ago so if there's an astrophotographer from one
of those galaxies watching too the milky way may be doing very pretty photos from
the milky way if they can watch to our earth they will see the dinosaurs so you
can make that that exercise to the people to analyze hey it's not just a spotlight is not
just that very bright start no it's something so far away
that you can make that kind of uh skills like time scales to make people analyze about the cosmic
scale and it was when uh we were in this talk with scott roberts that
i realized about the power of stargazing i didn't know about it
and i really got into that after that talk it was really game
changer for me it was not just the scientific part or just talking about constellations and the stars no it was
mixing all this to make it uh how can i say it like instru
i don't know how to say it in english but to look inside yourself to stop that very
self-focused center life and to start watching the stars
it was really game changer for me uh of what i was doing so since then
thanks to you scott i really got so inspired after that talk that i i tried to
add it to my talks to make the people connect with the nice guy
to inspire people with that and so dan
well i really i really enjoy showing this because
is to say it's not impossible everybody can do it uh it's not something so
difficult it's just to be to study a lot to practice uh to keep developing your skills um
and this was my first photo very very bad photo actually that's a light uh
a light thing here in the corner is not a meteor and here on the right is one of
my latest photos to show the evolution in just for a half year
stunning thanks thanks yeah many people keep telling me no that's
not real that uh that's fake that's but the people
that were with me in there for example the guys from siem adventure from astrophotography tiller sergio
vindas one of my very good friends uh they were there and they saw exactly the same it was so
amazing to s to watch it live in there and then to catch it with my camera and
all the colors hide them in that landscape and it was not planned
actually uh because we got there and i didn't know about that cape what
uh about the location about where i was uh
watching the night sky it was just pure coincidence and we took that opportunity
well this is something about my beginnings when i started in this i really didn't
know about the celestial pole actually this is a photo of my first
astronomical camp where i learned about that and i met a lot of people that were in love with
this i really thought that i was alone here in chile i didn't know that there were more people trying to catch
the nice guy with their cameras or with telescopes it was all very new for me
um then i learned a lot and i i started thinking about making
this community of astrophotographers that really love to mix astrophotography
with astronomy popularization because in here we have tons of photographers
teaching how to make photos to the stars but they they're not doing this connection
with the stars like to know what are you photographing in there what are you watching in your
photo so we really wanted to make this community bigger
and i started meeting a lot of people a lot of crazy people like me that wanted to do this
well these are some of my first photos uh i like to show them because
just to see the evolution that you can evolution you can improve your techniques just with a lot
of study a lot of practice this is some of my works my lettuce works
um with i i swear it was a lot of study a lot of
practicing a lot of learning how to use software how to about the colors of the night sky
so i'm not just making photos of one a flat color
just to show what is there and what is invisible to our eyes thanks a lot
and to show different ways to wash them for example this little planet
uh panorama i actually on facebook i had a
like a fight with a guy that was he keep telling me that's not true
that's a fake photo why i was telling him it it's a different prediction it's just that because the photo was taken
during the same night now because you're showing something different well what we try to do is to make it
creative and innovative so people can enjoy it it's not just to watch that photo of the
milky way is to show it with the landscape with different angles so it's
dynamic well these are some of my other latest
works in different latitudes actually i really want to come back to
to catch the northern lights they're so difficult to catch it
yeah it was so difficult for me and i wanted to share with you about one of the projects i'm working on with
astrophotography chile we really want to spread about uh the awareness of the
night sky and the light pollution we're working with many other organizations and
institutions to protect our night skies we have some of the best nice guys
around the world so we really want to we need to make more ambassadors of our
nice guys to protect it so this is one of the projects i'm working on
uh this is another project of this very insane community that really loves to i
enjoy to being out there with the cold with uh very sleepy
hungry but just watching to the nice guy just waiting for the camera to make the photo
because it's not just the camera it's about watching about there actually there are
many many times that i go to make some uh night photos with friends and we
barely do photos because we concentrate ourselves on watching to the nice guy and just to enjoy the nice
car not just making the photo and watching through the camera
this was the road to leap from this so i really had to learn to learn
learn about photography about the night sky about the weather uh because you can make uh
this kind of photo if you have a very bright and full moon right well i didn't
know it then nobody told me about that so it's a lot of
try and failure well i had to learn about photography composition because it's not just the
photo it's about to tell story with your photo to guide the eyes of the person watching
that photo to guide it to to to read it and to feel it there
well learn about geography about uh astronomy about design
because i'm my own boss about how to innovate what i was telling you
before about history i had to make investment in equipment in time a lot of time and actually i
i think i lost a lot of friends because of that because they didn't understand that i really want to be like the whole
time doing this yes that that can happen
yeah but you're turning the thing that's great is that you're turning towards something that you know is uh
you know sacred is something that is uh
passionate you know that something that will sustain you all your life exactly this
this is something that you can apply to your life like that uh mind change
it's it's difficult to explain it it's easier to do it in the field like watching to
the nice guy and to make people just with some phrases and just watching of
that nice guy to connect with it and to make this change of mind
uh comparing with the cosmic scale so then you can see what is really
important what is really important for your life what is really important for
uh your world what you really want for the future it's to connect with the stars uh not about
telling about uh um that stars are gonna decide if i
my crush gonna be with me in the future or not now it's just
to connect with the stars and to understand this cosmic scale that we're so
such a little bit of this scale but that's what connect us as humanity
yes uh it's the only way to connect us humanity that will really last like i don't know maybe
if we're lucky 100 years no more than that well it was about learn about communication
about the storytelling because you cannot tell about the nice guy about
this to the people just being very flat on no you have to be passionate about it
you have to uh get people uh
get the people in touch with their emotions watching to the nice guy there's there are some people that i have found
in my life that are very they have like a phobia with a nice guy with the stars
and thinking that there is something so big that they can barely imagine so they prefer to believe that the earth
is flat i have one of my best friends that she prefers to believe that because for her
it's a phobia to think that is such a big universe
well we're working on that how to convince her to connect with the stars rather than be afraid of them
right well this is a discipline that really
develop the patience right
and what about that i wanted to tell you about some of my friends here from latin
america that i found that they really got inspired about the nice guy also for example
connie constanza she went to one of my
um workshops my one of my first workshops uh of a landscape as for photography and she
got so inspired and she connects so much with this that
she she went to the next workshop to the next one and then we became
friends and we started going out to make photos and this is now her
with a telescope bigger than her
wow and she got yeah she got so inspired that she
started and she wanted to get certificate in basic astronomy she wanted to mix her career as educational psychologist
she wanted to mix it to inspire more kids to inspire next generations with this and
she really keeps evolving in her technique in astrophotography and she's also another insane person like me like
that really love to be out there making photos rather than being a club
or bar taking a drink no she prefers to be in there making photos on to inspire more
people with this you know karina um
i remember in years past when i when i first started getting involved in astronomy uh
you would meet amateur astronomers and they
they were doing it kind of as uh kind of as a uh
a strange kind of hobby you know they would just call it their hobby
uh but you knew that they were in love with it you knew that they wanted to express all the things you're expressing
tonight but many of them kept it to themselves and now i see
a generation of young people like yourselves that are really embracing this and
uh you know are finding the connections and uh
you know that is what i try to express in my talk about the power of stargazing
you know so uh but you're living the life and it's wonderful it's wonderful
yeah it's not easy you have to to quit too many many things to
live from your passion on or from your dream but i see that there are
many people uh getting inspired maybe with my story or
with other stories like the ones i'm showing to you now from my colleagues um
for example this is my friend sergio vindas actually we are making an expedition i
wanted to show you about that uh in case you want to join our expedition
and sergio he's a computer engineer also an astrophotographer and he started
during 2014 in costa rica he's from costa rica and he told me that it was so difficult
to make astrophotography due to light pollution on the weather but it was all the time very closely
but he really wanted to inspire some other people with this because in the
beginning when he started with this kind of photos people keep telling him this is not true this is uh fake you're
just mixing photos from google that's not your photo and he
he told me that he was so happy to see young people trying to make night photography and to
rather thinking that this is fake they started thinking how can i do it i
really want to do it and i'm asking hey how can i do it
it's a mind changer in that in that point of view that rather
thinking something is impossible because you don't know how to do it you think hey how can i do it how can i learn to do it
this is some of his work the before when he began beginners in that
in this and after his latest works
and this is different this is another friend of me and he's on
an ethnic astronomy popularizer because he shares about the mapuche astronomy
and he makes astronomical tourism teaching the people how mapuche people
uh watch to the night sky and learn from the stars and use the stars to plan
their lives so yeah it's so cool and actually he started on atacama he was living in san
pedro tacoma but he's from the south part of chile very soft part a very cloudy region from chile called pangiboy
but he's struggling with that but besides that he keeps
making uh this dissemination about astronomy and mixing it with this ethnic
astronomy how these ancient people watch to a nice guy it's so inspiring how he he
he talks about this and he's taking his roots because he's my butcher and he's taking his roots and teach to
the people how his ancients uh used to watch to the nice guy and
this is so cool because actually in here there's kind of problems with mature people
it's about a political issue but we try to get separate from that
we're not into political things we're just watching to the nice guy we're
sharing about this and we're teaching people to hey i don't matter i don't mind about that i really want to get
focused in what i love yes and just forget about everything watching today
nice guy yes so if some of you come to the south part
of chile you have to contact him from us
and learn about mapuche astronomy wonderful
this is another friend from colombia this is all the community we're uh
building together this latin astrophotography and astronomy popularization community this is my very
good friend andres he knows a lot but when i say a lot he knows a lot about everything it's like i
don't know maybe an atlas or uh encyclopedia because you talk with him and he really
knows about everything i always learn with him about
optical things and more about physics he's a physicist and
during his career when he was studying his studying he started his first steps on astronomy
because he had he had this approach with the national astronomical observatory in
bogota colombia and if you have if you've been in bogota before you know that in there is also
very cloudy and it rains a lot but they're still doing astronomy they're
still uh making dissemination of astronomy and so well andres wanted to show you
about this before and after that you have to just keep practicing
just keep studying about this about the nice guy about the colors he he told me
when i asked him about this photo he was so happy because he was the first one it was his first try
but then you notice that hey this is not all what uh i can catch from there i can
catch more colors more details this is his latest one from trified
nebula
and well this is my best friend javier cadenes he we started making
uh giving these workshops these landscape astrophotography workshops during 2019
before that he told me that he saw this notebook that had had this photo of the
galactic arc of the milky way arc and he told to himself
i have to do this i have to how can i do it it was that kind of thinking no the thinking of this is fake
no he really wanted to to learn how to do it so he took his first camera it was
a very very simple camera a nikon b
3200 and the kit lens and he got it after a lot of trial and
error he he got it this is his latest galactic
uh milky way arc spectacular yeah and after that he got into the deep sky
photography just with a reflex camera with the nikon dsl
750 and a sky guider because everybody keeps telling me keep
telling him no you can't do deep sky with that equipment you need a telescope
you need an hip group to all those people that they were wrong that if you propose yourself to
yeah if you propose yourself to do it now he have a telescope like a huge
telescope and he's working with a great uh equatorial mode but it was the evolution
because he wanted to get more quality in his photos and it was not just that yes
you know sometimes this is called like the pay to win that you have a very expensive
equipment but if you know if you don't know how to use it you definitely will
will not have like uh great results right
so these are some of his photos his first photo on the late
the latest one
and this is another friend of mine he's making a lot on astronomy
dissemination he actually started uh a camp in la tatacoa desert in colombia
he told me he the first thing he told me when i asked him about uh
about his work it was i was evangelized by carl sagan
and cosmos as a child so since he was a child he wanted he wanted
really to get in this first he studied and developed as a musician but then he
discovered how to live from this because for all of that for all of us
it's not easy to live from this because we we keep telling that we're poor but happy
because we're of money you know but we're very rich in what we're doing
because we wake up every day loving what we're doing yes
uh well and you know the tataco dessert have some of the best nice guy ever actually uh i'm pretty sure they're
they are certified by um the starlight
foundation uh or they were working for that to certify the nice guys in there so if you
visit colombia you definitely have to go to the tatakoa desert
and this is another good friend of mine and actually he's so inspiring because
he quit his job during [Music] uh
i don't know what the year i forgot to put it in there but he was he he quit his job to dedicate his health to
astronomy popularization and also astrophotography he got a lot of he had
seven airports of
i don't know why why it says of nothing maybe the translator was was messing with me but
it was getting deep into astrophotography and showing other people how to make
astrophotography um to giving talks uh like coaching people to
watch the night sky mixing ancient culture he's from guatemala
uh make mixing ancient cultures and mixing this kind of things like for
example the volcano with the moon and he's doing a lot of dissemination
with astrophotography using it as a tool for astronomy polarization so i really
wanted to show you about him maybe he can inspire someone and he's actually now a part of
princess he's part of the iba board the board member he's the first lady
part of the board member of the international skies association yeah
that's cool that as latins is more difficult for us to
reach maybe sponsorships if we're in the in south america it's so
difficult for us is most of the sponsorships or the views
for the contest or all the things uh they focus their
their focus on the northern hemisphere so for us as you know the southern hemisphere it is it's
the ten percent of the earth popular uh population
so it's more difficult for us to
to reach i don't know how to say it but to show our work like worldwide and to share what we're
doing worldwide so it's so cool to have this instance to show my friends uh work to show you that
there are more ladies trying to inspire more people with astrophotography and with astronomy uh we're gonna keep
working on this ah i'm my lost friend
i wanted to show you well he's uh mariano you know he's
an astronomical tourism guide and also an astrophotographer and he
found an observatory during the pandemic so all the investment they
with that they made with his uh business partner they were so complicated because they
just bought the telescope on the dome and everything and just the pandemic started and they didn't know how to
uh to start making money to to return the investment right
but yeah they were struggling there like a lot but
they got it and now they have a beautiful observatory in san pedro de atacama with an amazing
side a view uh to many volcanoes like like volcano and jurique's volcano and
they're making a lot of uh astronomy dissemination in there
it's so inspiring that even with all the problems of pandemic and all the
monetary problems in there they keep fighting to don't um how can i say to don't stop
this project just to keep going with this project that's what i wanted to show you that is the best time to start
something is when everything is at the lowest point because as things get better they rise
with everything else so yeah so it was very good
actually when i was working as an engineer i had i had this boss that kept telling me you
don't have to talk about programs you have to talk about opportunities yes
that's what i wanted to show you tonight my friends
wow very very inspiring karina thank you so
much thank you i am um i am pleased to uh
uh that you've come on and and shown yet again all of your work but it was very
very awesome to see all your friends that you're connected with and to learn about the lifestyle and the uh
you know the intense focus that you guys have on sharing um you know the wonder
of the night sky you know and the connections that people have with the universe so
yeah and they're older kind of uh insane people that want to inspire more people with
this we're making this community to keep growing that's what we want we're not because
you know maybe you have uh met people in this scot that they don't want to share
how they do the things they they're very selfish there's not all the people wants to
share that way i was i was in another life i was a professional photographer and they
don't want to give away any secrets it's quite different with amateur astronomers because they want everybody
to do it you know so uh i find that um astronomers
astrophotographers um when they're involved in educational outreach they will tell you every secret
every everything that they know you know uh to get them involved and to get them
inspired uh and in doing that i think it's um
somewhat of a selfish act because we get so much energy from it you know so it's
uh it's wonderful you know and uh um i i really admire what you're doing
uh karina you're you've started this at a young age and uh i think that you're brilliant uh
in and following your path so it's wonderful thanks a lot thanks a lot
scott and thanks for this space uh uh thanks for giving me this space to show
about my colleagues work on about my work um well
you just have to keep inspiring people with what you're doing scott
it's not so hard because they are these people in there it's so inspiring and they're so incredible and they're so
willing to share so it's uh it's it's a privilege for me uh to be able to be connected with it
it's why you know i chose to uh be involved in the telescope industry
so i could stay close to the fire you know so it's been
the whole thing has been an amazing uh journey for me and uh you know i'm humbled to know the people that i know
including people like yourself so thank you thank you very much thanks a lot thank you and uh i sent you
a note inviting you to be um to host a global star party if you would
like to you know if you want to get your friends together and and host a global star party we can do it um
uh and uh you know even if the english is uh somewhat of a barrier we can
figure out translators or whatever you know it can be all in spanish
you want to do it um i'm very interested in doing this so
wow that will be amazing well yeah english actually for me my english i told you is a bit rusty
i have to keep practicing thanks a lot and some of my friends
doesn't speak in english or they are too shy to try to speak it so yeah we can
figure out how to do it and it would be awesome to make uh
to be a host of one of the global star parties yeah so some of the comments here
um harold locke says be sure that uh kerry comes back gracias gary
we want carrie she's the boss your english is very good english and i do
that's awesome all right well that's wonderful well i think that that kind of wraps up
our global star party for tonight thanks thanks to everyone uh that um uh joined
us uh in the audience i want to thank give a special thanks to all the presenters um
and you know we are we will continue doing uh global star parties uh as we go along
um next tuesday will be our 95th event and
so um and those of you in the audience that are interested you know i know that there's talent out there and if you're
interested in sharing your experience your passion we're very happy to have you join us on
global star party so you can show us the way so
thanks very much thank you karina bob thank you i see you're still back
there tom thank you for letting us broadcast on the uh facebook astronomy
club and um we'll be back i'll be back tomorrow um
this weekend i will be broadcasting uh the late uh carolyn shoemaker's uh
tribute program from lowell observatory so that would happen on sunday so
until then you guys take care and keep looking up
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